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Ifir, Dagger of Fire  

Lore Item No Trade Placeable
Skill: 1H Piercing Atk Delay: 19
DMG: 18 Dmg Bonus: 33 AC: 15
Backstab DMG: 18
This item is placeable in yards, guild yards, houses and guild halls.
Skill Mod: Backstab +12% (34 Max)
STR: +20 DEX: +20 STA: +20 WIS: +20 HP: +155 MANA: +130 ENDUR: +130
Required level of 65.
Effect: Flame of the Efreeti (Combat, Casting Time: Instant)
WT: 1.3 Size: SMALL
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type 4 (Weapon: General)
Slot 2, Type 20 (Ornamentation)

Item Type:1H Piercing
Submitted By:Fires of Heaven
Lucy Entry By:Kerasota
Item Updated By:SwiftyMUSE
IC Last Updated:2022-01-14 17:45:26
Page Updated:Thu Oct 9th, 2008

*This item is the result of a raid event.
Expansion: Planes of Power Planes of Power

Rarity: Uncommon
Level to Attain: 65

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Zone(s) Found In:

Zone Name
Doomfire, the Burning Lands
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# Jun 18 2004 at 1:48 PM Rating: Excellent
54 posts
Saw it for sale on Firiona Vie (where it is droppable) for 650k.
#REDACTED, Posted: Jul 03 2004 at 4:20 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) how can it be sold if its no drop?
#REDACTED, Posted: Jul 03 2004 at 2:08 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) notice he said FV???? idiot, almost everything is droppable there, read b4 you respond.
Dagger statistics
# Jun 03 2004 at 2:31 AM Rating: Good
Statistics for a 65 rogue

Max backstab (non disc, non crit) = 744
Max backstab using disc, non crit = 1488
Max backstab during disc with crit = 2538
Max regular hit, non disc, non crit = 120

These arent just personal maxes btw, this is the maxiumum possible, confirmed with other Ifir wielding rogs and not including ones with +20 to backstab augs or rogue time breastplate.

DPS varies a lot of course based on personal AAs, atk rating etc, however using a dart of immobility offhand and full raid buffs, including FA, I find i average around 230 dps with this. I have pathetic unbuffed atk though, and only 89 AAs, so other results would likely be a lot higher than mine on average.

Edited, Thu Jun 3 03:32:57 2004
RE: Dagger statistics
# Sep 14 2004 at 6:49 PM Rating: Default
would think that the theory on max normal hit for 120 to be fauls, maby it differs for other classes but ive seen meny a warrior / monk / ranger hit 120's with 15 damage weapons ( and not max, mind you probly 130ish max ) so would have to think 18 would max more around 155ish. rogues just might hit for less, idk.
RE: Dagger statistics
# Jun 20 2004 at 9:56 PM Rating: Decent
Also my Max BS with crit no disc is 1208 i think
RE: Dagger statistics
# Jun 07 2004 at 2:09 PM Rating: Decent
The Max BS non disc, Non crit is correct. i have not gotten on over 744. as for everythuin eelse i havent reallyb looked
#REDACTED, Posted: May 18 2004 at 11:53 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) this dagger is sweet if it wasent for the fact im 3 lvls away from 50 i would go get flaged for PoFire and get it =( why must EQ be mean to the little rogue like me
#REDACTED, Posted: Dec 22 2003 at 11:42 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Edited, Mon Dec 22 11:46:14 2003
Cleric Piercers
# Oct 03 2003 at 2:03 PM Rating: Decent

so just for the record, clerics CAN use piercing weapons. They just don't have a skill for it, so it goes off their base atk number, no bonuses for having a high number in the skill.
RE: Cleric Piercers
# May 13 2004 at 5:17 PM Rating: Default
210 posts
the last link is the Progney Claws, clerics can no longer use, just an update
RE: Cleric Piercers
# Jan 16 2004 at 8:58 AM Rating: Default
The All/All designation allows a cleric to equip this item, thereby gaining any stat benefits from it, but does not allow you to attack with it.

Once you've equipped it on your cleric, go try and actually poke something with it.

RE: Cleric Piercers
# Sep 14 2004 at 6:54 PM Rating: Default
no, you wrong, person with the base atk theory is correct tho. on my monk ive used duel peircer's ( those fungal field claw thingys lol , can also throw them. and a pestilence scythe (2hs), you can use them, and they do hit, but far far less often and for less damage ( because ur atk will be more like 500, - the 1800 it probly normaly is.) so yha, even if you dont have the skill, you can still use the item for stats, and even meele with it if you want, you just wont do much damage. again with the class assigned weapons, should just be all/all because there are classes that would not use the weapons ( ones without the skill bonus ), and what class really couldnt pick up a staff and start swingin it like a 2hb or pick up a large sword and play knight.
RE: Cleric Piercers
# Apr 13 2004 at 3:50 PM Rating: Default
Oh yeah it does, you'll have a skill of 0 and therefore no ATK at all, but you'll still be able to attack

I was able to slash as a necro with my good ol' Scythe of Sundering ( back in the days, and it worked... just didn't hit often
RE: Cleric Piercers
# Jan 18 2004 at 6:11 PM Rating: Good
Umm anything you can equip you can attack with. Your skill will be zero, but you can still attack with it.
RE: Cleric Piercers
# Jun 03 2004 at 1:45 PM Rating: Decent
also the well known overthere port hammer is 1hb and my bard uses it every now and then.
RE: Cleric Piercers
# Jul 02 2004 at 10:30 AM Rating: Decent
145 posts
Worker Sledgemallet is 2hb (all/all)
RE: Cleric Piercers
# Jul 11 2004 at 2:53 PM Rating: Good
658 posts
Yes, he misspoke. Bards have a 1hb skill, but no skill in 2hb - yet it works for a Bard just fine.
RE: Cleric Piercers
# Jan 19 2004 at 11:19 AM Rating: Decent
That';s true, i remember my Monk running around with a goblin slavers whip (all/all) 1hs
#REDACTED, Posted: Aug 13 2003 at 9:16 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) ok that post of a 3000+bs isnt BS. ive seen a guildmate with this And Chaotic stab BS for 3168dmg. hes only done it once but comes close alot. if u dont belive me flame away i dont care ull never get to were i am in this game.
RE: Backstab
# Aug 14 2003 at 12:33 PM Rating: Decent
Umm I think you mean a Duelist Critical hit. Chaotic stab just lets you BS for the minimum from the front of a mob. If someone is Chaotic stabbing for 3168 then there is something very wrong. If you dont believe me flame away you'll never be able to spell as well as I can.

RE: Backstab
# Apr 07 2004 at 4:38 PM Rating: Decent
My best duelist crit with this dagger is 2381. I doubt that is max, but your 3k+ story isn't possible with this dagger.
RE: Backstab
# May 18 2004 at 4:31 AM Rating: Decent
With rogue new disc Assassin's Strike, my rogue with 16/21 +15% Backstab mod, can do it up to 2255 critical. It max backstab up to 661, and with 17/24 +15% Backstab mod can up to 703 without disc and critical.

Anyway, 3k+ dmg seems too fantastic....
RE: Backstab
# Jul 12 2004 at 1:00 AM Rating: Decent
93 posts
Perhaps with some of the new GoD piercers becoming available. Inhumanly high dam on those things. But not with this dagger.
# Aug 09 2003 at 1:07 PM Rating: Decent
Updated on the recent patch; Damage is now 18, delay is still 19. Also, the fire +1 modifier is now gone.
#REDACTED, Posted: May 03 2003 at 2:06 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) id like to see the da a ranger gets this
Air pet
# Apr 18 2003 at 4:38 AM Rating: Default
This is definately one of the best weapons for a mage air pet!
RE: Air pet
# Sep 12 2003 at 1:26 PM Rating: Decent
387 posts
Naw naw naw, Mage air pet, lol, i think you are mistaken, what about a monk foot pet. Lol, and cheer up sinister, hes only joking. And it is true, but its obvious the rogue gets it. Ok.

Teddie Beardude 51 warrior of xev
RE: Air pet
# Aug 10 2003 at 12:55 AM Rating: Default
what the heck are you talking about?
RE: Air pet
# Aug 27 2004 at 2:04 PM Rating: Decent
Believe he was just making a joke... when we'd go to BoT, we only had 1 pally active in our guild at the time, killing Auliffe and Eindride... well when ol' Olly would drop that like... 27/25... or something... paladin sword... our mages pet (or another pet class) would get it, since our pally already had one in the bank.
#REDACTED, Posted: Jun 21 2003 at 10:55 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I suppose if you're guild would let you loot it for the express purpose of using it for 12 hours straight and then ditching it, then yes it would be the best air pet weapon.
RE: Air pet
# Oct 06 2003 at 2:53 PM Rating: Default
if pets were able to use no drop weapons... (that has been nerfed a loooong time ago)
#REDACTED, Posted: Apr 16 2003 at 9:16 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Imagine the backstabs this thing will put out... its insane! A 65 rogue could prolly do over 1000 BS with this. I only do 110 right now with a 12damage at lvl 29 with 108 BS...
# Aug 06 2003 at 4:21 PM Rating: Default
Well i know 65 rogue can do more than a 1k backstab with this, because a rogue in our guild that is 63 and doesnt have anything near as good as this does 1k backstabs
#REDACTED, Posted: Apr 02 2003 at 7:58 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) *snif* I'm only lvl 10 *snif* Mommy, will you buy that for me?? PLEEEAAASSSE?? (mom says "Go ask your father!") Daddy? Can you buy this for me?(pointing to picture) (dad says "Go ask your mother!") NNNNNNnnnnoooOOOOOO!!!!
#REDACTED, Posted: Apr 05 2003 at 12:08 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) 1) it is no drop
# Jul 14 2003 at 4:34 AM Rating: Decent
1) On Firiona Vie server only epics and a few more items are NO DROP.
2) Yes
Highest Backstab
# Mar 30 2003 at 1:58 PM Rating: Default
We had a guild raid of 44 people take him down. Fun fight with no deaths. Tried out the backstab capability on this thing on lvl 1 mobs in Misty Thicket. My highest backstab was 3692 damage vs. a decaying skeleton. Hopes this inspires all you rogues to hold a raid here.
I am the powerfulest rogue to ever exist.
RE: Highest Backstab
# Mar 24 2004 at 10:26 AM Rating: Decent
not to mention if you look at his skills, it says his safefall is 100...even though rogue safefall maxes at 92...¿
RE: Highest Backstab
# Feb 24 2004 at 8:33 PM Rating: Decent
my 65 rogue with duelist and a crit has only got 2388 max so far with a 17 dmg weapon and +15% to backstab mod. I seriously doubt you did 3600+ with Ifir. It owns tho. ;-)
RE: Highest Backstab
# Jul 30 2003 at 12:18 PM Rating: Default really had me going for a sec....but then of course i realized im not stupid and no one else here either.
thanks for the laugh though.
RE: Highest Backstab
# Jul 02 2003 at 11:12 AM Rating: Default
3692? Um no you are full of crap. First of all you have a fake profile. Second, you cant backstab for 3692 with that dagger. Go sell your shizt to someone else because we aint buying...

RE: Highest Backstab
# Apr 06 2003 at 7:38 AM Rating: Default
It does inspire me, I love misty thicket, its one of my favorite zones. And even though I am not a rogue, I'd be happy to haste any rogues in misty backstabbing skeletons with pokers dropped off teir whatever Gods, if you think I'm high enough. I probably couldn't get an invite though, only uber guilds get the good raids /sigh

/ooc 55 enc lfg decaying skeleton group...c'mon guys, I've been shouting for 3 hours!

Clienthes, 55 enchanter
Lost Minions, 7th Hammer

"All enchanters are tanks, just not on purpose, and not for very long"--long lost guild member
"Its not a fun group til my third rez"--uh, me

Edited, Sun Apr 6 08:02:45 2003
RE: Highest Backstab
# Apr 05 2003 at 5:00 AM Rating: Decent
627 posts
3692? Sure... 744 is the max normal backstab when the fire bane kicks in (18 damage), so a max bs with crit with duelist would make max BS around 2560.
RE: Highest Backstab
# Apr 03 2003 at 5:25 PM Rating: Default
just checked ur profile and ahhh one question. Now that you have all of the AA points is there even a point to the xp? Ok i lied one more question, what are you going to do now??
RE: Highest Backstab
# Apr 27 2003 at 3:21 AM Rating: Default
check the flags section - it's a fake profile. you need ALL the flags to get some of that loot. ;)
RE: Highest Backstab
# Aug 26 2003 at 3:54 PM Rating: Default
just like to add they patched in a while back if (i forgot the actual percentage) 85 pct of your raid is flagged it will allow you to enter the plane, so if he doesnt actually have all the flags to have uba loot.

Just fyi no need to flame..

Huntress Galantrya
#REDACTED, Posted: May 22 2003 at 6:47 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) and we all know ppl care so much about filling in that part of the magelo. what flags they have. pfff
RE: Highest Backstab
# Apr 07 2003 at 8:55 PM Rating: Default
well my first thought is tradeskills, then I check, yup all done. After that I thought another useless thing to do to pass time would be languages, yup he got em all.
Non-rogue classes have a chance here...
# Mar 15 2003 at 1:51 PM Rating: Good
I think that adding non-rogue classes to high-level rogue daggers is a fine idea. In my guild there are only 3 active rogues and have had daggers rott because a rogue did not need.

Now in 3 months if a guild has to kill MM or Fennin Ro their daggers will be able to go to people who could use them and NOT rot.

Conclusion, Having non-rogue classes on rogue daggers is a GOOD thing.

65 Rogue
Fennin Ro

Edited, Sat Mar 15 13:17:56 2003
#REDACTED, Posted: Apr 27 2003 at 6:57 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Well said, Reikes.
*stares dreamly*
# Mar 02 2003 at 6:56 PM Rating: Default
This is a really nice weapon, 12% backstab, that would probably raise the max backstab damage by 50 dmg or so, 12% would mean that the skill would go up to 280, that's pretty nice. I'll just hope that sometime i'll be able to at least see one of these drop, it'll hopefully happen one day, who knows, besides, if it drops once in my presence would probably mean it'll drop again, so i guess i have patience :)

newbie 65th Rogue of Bertoxxulous
RE: *stares dreamly*
# Mar 07 2003 at 11:39 PM Rating: Decent
first, the cap on skills is 255 i believe so your dreams of 280 skill in bs are shattered T_T

second, 12% of 225 is only 27, so that puts u at 252, not 280 T_T

still a nice weapon tho.
RE: *stares dreamly*
# Apr 27 2003 at 3:01 AM Rating: Decent
cap is 252, all melee skills cap at 252
# Feb 16 2003 at 8:12 PM Rating: Default
lets see piercing +12% backstab that right there tells ya who this weapon goes to... a cleric i don't see why they'd make it like rogue usable thats insane!

yea hopefully you can tell i'm kidding
# Feb 12 2003 at 10:00 PM Rating: Default
anyone have a Highest total for the BS with this shiznit and a green mob? preferably with maxed power (avatar exc whateva)
#REDACTED, Posted: Feb 12 2003 at 12:29 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) The rogue epic and this weapon are equipable in Primary or Secondary. A rogue wielding this and their epic... wow... I can only imagine how fast those mobs would drop. shame about that agro :/
RE: epic + this = ouch
# Mar 01 2003 at 3:16 PM Rating: Default
If you can roll on this your epic is banked.
the 1 or 2 guilds on each server (1 on brell atm) capable of getting this to drop definitely have better equipped rogues then epics.
#REDACTED, Posted: Feb 12 2003 at 2:00 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) before my acct got hacked my rog had dis =) and highest BS was 3402 =P
#REDACTED, Posted: Feb 12 2003 at 12:38 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) This weapon is the ultimate DPS weapon for Rogues.
RE: Ultimate DPS weapon for Rogue's
# May 22 2003 at 6:49 AM Rating: Default
what drugs are you on and where did you buy them ?

ishinaear xiall close 2nd? :)

who drops it
# Feb 02 2003 at 2:40 AM Rating: Default
What boss or god or whoever drops this godly rogue piercer. would be a great upgrade for probaly will need like a 30 people raid from the looks of the wep.
RE: who drops it
# Feb 07 2003 at 10:54 AM Rating: Default
Fennin Ro drops this. You'll need more than 30 people. Triton did it with 36.
RE: who drops it
# Feb 12 2003 at 5:23 AM Rating: Decent
25 posts
Wasn't he upgraded to be 'More inline with the other elemental gods' in a recent patch? I saw the word Fennin Ro and said "Doh, doesn't apply to me" and skipped it. It may take more now, but then again these things I don't know.
RE: who drops it
# Apr 27 2003 at 3:03 AM Rating: Decent
Triton did it with 36 maybe pre-upgrade, post upgrade he is pretty hard core. The fight is not complex but I know my guild best is 50ish people.

#REDACTED, Posted: Jan 25 2003 at 1:29 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) hmmmm.... Me I'm thinking mayber WAR ROG only mainly Rog because of the obvious stats and maybe WAR for some main tanks(depending on choice of weapon) for the DMG and nice stats. 12% backstab Uber Rog usage, LVL 65 REQUIRED bah Should be 55 or 60 REQUIRED cause I mean you gotta have some enjoyment out of it. LVL 65 no more lvls Cmon lower the REQ lvl a little. My personal opinion of course.
#REDACTED, Posted: Jan 29 2003 at 5:29 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) they could have required lvl 1. wouldn´t matter . you dont get that before 65.
RE: Class
# Aug 19 2004 at 7:02 AM Rating: Decent
On Firiona Vie server it isn't NO DROP and can be seen for sale sometimes for between 600k to 1M.

Damage yo!
# Jan 12 2003 at 11:16 PM Rating: Default
As of 1/9 patch. The Damage is 17 with Fire DMG 1, in essence making it an 18/19 dagger. ph33r
Rogue weapon? Pffft
# Jan 11 2003 at 12:08 PM Rating: Decent
51 posts
Rogue only? What would a rogue need with 20 wisdom? This is obviously a cleric weapon! Jesus you people are newbies
RE: Rogue weapon? Pffft
# Jan 13 2003 at 11:23 AM Rating: Default

Daillan Shadowrunner
halfling rogue of the 40th season
servant of bristlebane
tunare server

"Size matters not!" -yoda
#REDACTED, Posted: Mar 02 2003 at 9:47 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) You need to read the message in context friend. Obivously subtlety is something you don't know much about.
RE: Think before you post
# Mar 11 2003 at 4:09 PM Rating: Default
im sorry. didnt think that many people would take it like that. oh well. i was trying to go along with the joke. Sorry again

Daillan Shadowrunner
<Northern Cross>
Halfling Rogue of the 44th Season
Servant of Bristlebane
tunare server

"Welcome to MC crazydaddy's pot o' blingbling!" -anon
RE: Rogue weapon? Pffft
# Jan 20 2003 at 3:25 PM Rating: Good
Sarcasm tries to hit YOU, but misses!
#REDACTED, Posted: Jan 28 2003 at 4:11 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Sarcasm tries to hit YOU but you riposte!
RE: Rogue weapon? Pffft
# Feb 12 2003 at 4:33 PM Rating: Default
This is obviously a monk weapon!
#REDACTED, Posted: Feb 12 2003 at 4:44 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) R U Newb?
#REDACTED, Posted: Jan 09 2003 at 4:13 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Yes it screams rogue only... but there will be a day when every rogue on the raid has one and it must go to someone else.... without a proc its agro control isnt as great as some weapons, and with it being piercing (and war piercing caps lower than 1hs) my vote is to give it to the ranger, they are good with piercers and if you say they should use a bow you are dumb. Archery is broken and yes with the AA points it can be good but their melee is better... until the LoS is fixed and there is an autoattack for archery it will never be as good as pure melee.... yes they have to control agro more but their output is more damage
RE: edit
# Jan 09 2003 at 7:54 PM Rating: Default
rangers? why rangers? it ALWAYS has to be rangers. besides being a super popular class, it shares a lot of the weapons that rogues and warriors can equip. To me thats just a tad annoying, and i know warriors are mad becuz almost every warrior equipable 1hs is also ranger equipable. Im not anti ranger tho, they are a cool class. Its just that i think they are given a little too much respect.

Daillan Shadowrunner
Halfling rogue of the 40th season
servant of Bristlebane
tunare server

"Size matters not!" -yoda
#REDACTED, Posted: Apr 01 2003 at 10:03 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) rangers suck a$$ they should get anything
RE: edit
# Sep 16 2003 at 6:34 PM Rating: Default
I would say rangers are the best DPS in the game (At lvl 60+) and if they have a nice bow they can get crits of 2,000. I was playing my friends ranger in BOT and i got a crit of 2314 with am3 and trueshoot disc. Regular hit is in 600s
RE: edit
# Jul 02 2003 at 11:22 AM Rating: Default
Yeah you'll think rangers suck until you see one lay down a woopass with their trueshot disc and am3 aa. Come back to me after you see that.
#REDACTED, Posted: Jan 09 2003 at 4:09 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Yes it screams rogue only... but there will be a day when every rogue on the raid has one and it must go to someone else.... without a proc its agro control isnt as great as some weapons, and with it being piercing (and war piercing caps lower than 1hs) my vote is to give it to the ranger, they are good with piercers and if you say they should use a bow you are dumb. Archery is broken and yes with the AA points it can be good but their melee is better... until the LoS is fixed and there is an autoattack for archery it will never be as good as pure melee.... yes they have to control agro more but their output is more damage
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