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Howdy,
I know that this thread is older than dirt, but...
Did the entire conversation have to be about the price of freakin' HQ bear pelts for f*ck's sake?!?!? How about the FACTION issue to actually DO the $%*#&%^'ing quest?? How about whether or not there is some combination of race/class that can do this quest right out of the gate?
FWIW I started up a Necro on the the new 'Fippy' progression server so that is why I am trying to do this dork-a$$, antiquated quest. Soooo, does ANYBODY know if there is a class/race combination that has high enough faction with Chandra Miller to do this bear-hide cloak quest? I tried half-elf Paladin (Rodocet Nife) and I am apprehensive to her which is a no-go for the cloak.
Oh, and one more thing... I have HQ bear pelts flying out my a$$ as a LEVEL 7 DE Necro people (about a dozen of them)! So please don't weigh in with how much a f*ckin' HQ bear pelt costs!!
/rant off
Fignacious of Fippy Darkpaw | Currently Level 7 Darkelf Necromancer
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You need to work on Karana Residents faction. Kill bandits in WK.
There's another NPC that sits at the campfire with them sometimes, that is on Jaggedpine Treefolk faction, which you will have to work up, too, if she attacks you when you get close.
Edited, Jan 22nd 2021 7:29pm by animekenji
There's another NPC that sits at the campfire with them sometimes, that is on Jaggedpine Treefolk faction, which you will have to work up, too, if she attacks you when you get close.
Edited, Jan 22nd 2021 7:29pm by animekenji
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For those who may still be interested in 2019, the human druids and rangers with Karana as deity have high enough faction to start with to do the wolf and bear hide quests. It is possible that halfling druids and rangers with Karana as deity may also, but I haven't tested that. NPC's from the Plains of Karana zones tend to lean heavily towards Karana as their deity choice so I think that may be a big factor in influencing Baobob and Chanda.
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There's a way to do it with any class that has innate hide if you don't have the required faction. Stand behind Chandra Miller, open trade window but DON'T give her the items yet. Click hide and /con her, if it works she will be indiff, then trade the items - and enjoy your new cloak. Old trick but a good one :)
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I just did this quest on the Fippy server as a lvl 5 Barb Shaman. I'd suggest you make a human druid alt starting in Surefall Glade then do the quest with him. A DE Necro just isn't going to have the faction with the necessary factions. Which are:
Guards of Qeynos
Karana Residents
Knights of Thunder
Priests of Life
These are all the "goodie" Qeynos factions. Just easier and time saving to have an alt do it or get a friend to do turn ins for you.
Guards of Qeynos
Karana Residents
Knights of Thunder
Priests of Life
These are all the "goodie" Qeynos factions. Just easier and time saving to have an alt do it or get a friend to do turn ins for you.
Not sure why you are discussing HQ bear pelts in this location under the cape but I have a cp or two to offer for informational purposes only
HQ bear skins are indeed sold for 20-50pp. Though the reasoning why that persists is baffling to me. Sure they are used for the 10-slot tailored bags. But with the availibilty of a 10-slot toolbox vendor purchaseable for slightly over 1.6pp in Iceclad, the ability to sell the 10-slot backpack has again been made impossible to recoup the price paid for the pelt. Since HQ cat pelts fall alot more frequently and can be made into quivers that trivialize higher than tailored backpacks, 20pp is simple unrealistic a price to use as a medium of skill advancement.
Please do not be surprised as you take your stack of pelts to EC and find no buyers at 20pp. It is unfortunate that Verant has decided again to supply a 10-slot container that completely kills the backpack market. (Remember the now deluxe sewing kits?)
HQ bear skins are indeed sold for 20-50pp. Though the reasoning why that persists is baffling to me. Sure they are used for the 10-slot tailored bags. But with the availibilty of a 10-slot toolbox vendor purchaseable for slightly over 1.6pp in Iceclad, the ability to sell the 10-slot backpack has again been made impossible to recoup the price paid for the pelt. Since HQ cat pelts fall alot more frequently and can be made into quivers that trivialize higher than tailored backpacks, 20pp is simple unrealistic a price to use as a medium of skill advancement.
Please do not be surprised as you take your stack of pelts to EC and find no buyers at 20pp. It is unfortunate that Verant has decided again to supply a 10-slot container that completely kills the backpack market. (Remember the now deluxe sewing kits?)
Um, about the toolboxes... they have no weight reduction, and weigh 3.5 stones... while tailored backbacks weigh only 3 stones and have 10% weight reduction. The only thing the deluxe toolboxes are especially good for (and this is what I use them for) is increasesing the item capacity of your bank vault. For carrying they're fairly worthless, as the cost too much weight (especially if you're a caster with low carrying capacity or a monk who doesn't want a weight penalty). Unless you need a cheap container that has a giant capacity...
However, the real reason the value of HQ bear pelts dropped has to do with Luclin. HQ hopperhides can be used in place of HQ bear pelts now in the tailored backpack recipe. HQ hopperhides drop off of any saurek hopper in Shadeweaver's Thicket, at a much higher rate than HQ bear pelts drop off bears. Simple economics; a common supply that can be used as a substitute for a rarer ingredient will reduce the demand, thus the price, of the rarer ingredient.
Goes without saying this will also cause the selling price of tailored backpacks to drop.
However, the real reason the value of HQ bear pelts dropped has to do with Luclin. HQ hopperhides can be used in place of HQ bear pelts now in the tailored backpack recipe. HQ hopperhides drop off of any saurek hopper in Shadeweaver's Thicket, at a much higher rate than HQ bear pelts drop off bears. Simple economics; a common supply that can be used as a substitute for a rarer ingredient will reduce the demand, thus the price, of the rarer ingredient.
Goes without saying this will also cause the selling price of tailored backpacks to drop.
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/agree
It really burns me when someone pretends that they alone have the authority to determine that Verant / SoE is wrong for choosing a particular nuance about the game. Certainly before taking the time to complain either in game verbally or out of game on message boards, one should take the time to consider the various implications of a particular item's stats rather than declare that it is an offront to their obviously superior gaming judgement. The game is too large and the classes too varied for every item to remain economically desirable for all characters. In other words, like Trooden pointed out, while you may not care that your toolbox weighs a bit more and costs less, to a monk that simply is not acceptable and he must choose the weight reducing backpack you love so dearly. And, besides, purchasing a heavier container to save a few plat at a lower level is only a temporary solution for anyone who has their head screwed on properly.
In my humble opinion, it is much more irritating to see how players abuse the game than how the game was designed.
It really burns me when someone pretends that they alone have the authority to determine that Verant / SoE is wrong for choosing a particular nuance about the game. Certainly before taking the time to complain either in game verbally or out of game on message boards, one should take the time to consider the various implications of a particular item's stats rather than declare that it is an offront to their obviously superior gaming judgement. The game is too large and the classes too varied for every item to remain economically desirable for all characters. In other words, like Trooden pointed out, while you may not care that your toolbox weighs a bit more and costs less, to a monk that simply is not acceptable and he must choose the weight reducing backpack you love so dearly. And, besides, purchasing a heavier container to save a few plat at a lower level is only a temporary solution for anyone who has their head screwed on properly.
In my humble opinion, it is much more irritating to see how players abuse the game than how the game was designed.
#Anonymous,
Posted: Oct 01 2001 at 3:19 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) ok people,hq bear pelts are very rare so they cant be worth only 3-7pp,when i find one i dont sell them for less then 40pp anymore sometimes i can get up to 50pp a piece.and they drop of any kind of bear found on antonica
I usually get 40pp+ for HQ bear skins on Rodcet Nife server. If you sell in East Commons maybe 30, but back in freeport, I get more. In fact, I had a guy pay me 200pp for 1hq bear +4hq cat pelts, which on rodcet, usually sell for 3pp each. HEH, boy was I happy about that sale.
#Anonymous,
Posted: Jun 29 2001 at 5:34 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) first of all to the person who sells HQ bear skins for 2-3pp .
#Anonymous,
Posted: Jun 28 2001 at 6:05 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) If you are only getting 2 or 3pp for a HQ Bear Pelt you are getting severely ripped off. They sell for 30pp everyday... left and right. If I were you I would not advertise them for such low price, and if someone offers you only 2 or 3pp tell them to go find another sucker. You will make so much more profit if you do so... believe me! The HQ cat pelts are the ones not worth quite so much... perhaps you are confused. Although I sell HQ cat pelts for more than 2 or 3pp. Who knows...
I agree. Never let a hq bear pelt go for less than 30pp. If you auction one at this price you'll get tells within minutes. They're just so freaking rare. Most buyers are tailors who turn this in to tailored backpacks (10 slot, 10% weight reduction) that easily sell for 75-100pp. They use the profit to equip themeselves, and also to buy more tailoring supplies.
However, ocassionally newbies who don't the value of these sell them to merchants. I actually found one for sale off one the merchants in Qeynos- for 3 GOLD! Check the merchants ocassionally, you never know what bargains you'll find, once my brother found a merchant selling a lambent breastplate for 57pp (of course, now that he's a level 11 bard wearing a lambent breastplate, everyone assumes he's wealthy. Reminds me of those K&G commercials, with the people bragging how they got their nice suits at really low prices!)
Edit: I no longer agree, I posted this before Luclin... now that hq hopperhides exist, and drop off saurek hoppers all over the moon at a much higher frequency than hq bear hides drop off bears, and you can use a hq hopperhide instead of a hq bear pelt in a tailored backpack... hq bear pelts aren't worth anywhere near 30pp anymore. You'd really be lucky to get 10; they sell for an average of 5 now, at least on Sol Ro in the Bazaar (ocassionally see them as high as 10-15, but never anywhere near 30 and above anymore like they used to sell for pre-Luclin).
Edited, Mon Nov 18 03:27:59 2002
However, ocassionally newbies who don't the value of these sell them to merchants. I actually found one for sale off one the merchants in Qeynos- for 3 GOLD! Check the merchants ocassionally, you never know what bargains you'll find, once my brother found a merchant selling a lambent breastplate for 57pp (of course, now that he's a level 11 bard wearing a lambent breastplate, everyone assumes he's wealthy. Reminds me of those K&G commercials, with the people bragging how they got their nice suits at really low prices!)
Edit: I no longer agree, I posted this before Luclin... now that hq hopperhides exist, and drop off saurek hoppers all over the moon at a much higher frequency than hq bear hides drop off bears, and you can use a hq hopperhide instead of a hq bear pelt in a tailored backpack... hq bear pelts aren't worth anywhere near 30pp anymore. You'd really be lucky to get 10; they sell for an average of 5 now, at least on Sol Ro in the Bazaar (ocassionally see them as high as 10-15, but never anywhere near 30 and above anymore like they used to sell for pre-Luclin).
Edited, Mon Nov 18 03:27:59 2002
#Anonymous,
Posted: Jun 07 2001 at 2:08 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) lol the guy that sold a hq bear skin for 2pp got ripped off big time lol
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So far as I know HQ bear pelts drop only from brown and black bears(could be wrong about that part) but I know for a fact I can sell them all day long for 30pp in east commons(bristlebane server) to tailors who make them into the 10 slot 10% wr backpacks that sell for 100-150pp
HQ bear pelts can drop off of anything remotely resebling a bear, regardless of actual type, location, or level. My brother, who seems to always have amazing beginner's luck, got a HQ bear pelt in Everfrost off the first polar bear cub he ever killed, back when he was level 4. Quickly got an offer of 30pp for it in Halas. 30pp is a fortune at that level, got himself a claymore and a nearly full set of leather armor.
HQ cat pelts are a lot more commpn, most you'll ever get for one is 3pp for tailors who don't feel like spending the time to collect them. HQ wolf pelts you may as well sell to a merchant, anybody eho wants them already has them. But HQ bear pelts are so rare they fetch a good price, 30pp at least, sometimes more if the buyer is desperate.
Edit: Almost exactly the 1 year anniversary of this post! Anyway, please see above why hq bear pelts don't sell for anywhere near 30pp anymore.
Edited, Mon Nov 18 03:30:17 2002
HQ cat pelts are a lot more commpn, most you'll ever get for one is 3pp for tailors who don't feel like spending the time to collect them. HQ wolf pelts you may as well sell to a merchant, anybody eho wants them already has them. But HQ bear pelts are so rare they fetch a good price, 30pp at least, sometimes more if the buyer is desperate.
Edit: Almost exactly the 1 year anniversary of this post! Anyway, please see above why hq bear pelts don't sell for anywhere near 30pp anymore.
Edited, Mon Nov 18 03:30:17 2002
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Speaking from experience, in my younger days I often got high quality pelts off of Kodiaks and occasionally grizzleys as well as brown and black bears. To this day if I ever see a bear's body left to rot near a druid ring I'll loot it and you may be surprised from the number of HQ skins left there to rot.
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Kolwithe Thunderheart,
Druid of Karana on Bertox.
Just my 2cp :)
Kolwithe Thunderheart,
Druid of Karana on Bertox.
#Anonymous,
Posted: Jun 02 2001 at 6:58 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) can be sold for 40pp, just have to travel a bit but it can be worth it if you have a small char
Anonymous
um yea they go for 30pp on average people can make 10 slot backpacks and sell them for 60 or 80pp
Anonymous
I have and can sell HQ skins for 25pp in everfrost. So don't waste your hq skin on this, even though its good for casters!
You only have to do this quest once to get the cape. I don't see why you can't loot a HQ bear skin, get the cape, then go and sell every other one you loot.
Anonymous
I can sell HQ Bear skins at 7pp on average, but have sold lately for 15pp in everfrost on Vazelle. I believe people use these for Backpacks so, they get between 30pp-45 each for these, so I guess 15pp is not a bad trade.
Arrdaaru
12lvl Wiz.
Vazelle
Arrdaaru
12lvl Wiz.
Vazelle
#Anonymous,
Posted: May 01 2001 at 6:33 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) HQ Bear Pelts sell for maybe 2 or 3 pp! I don't know where anyone got that they sold for 20-30! That would maybe happen if you were like really far away from civilazation and bears and suddenly needed it and were high level, but they should NEVER sell for 20-30 pp!
Anonymous
HQ Bear Pelts sell for maybe 2 or 2 pp! I don't know where anyone got that they sold for 20-30! That would maybe happen if you were like really far away from civilazation and bears and suddenly needed it and were high level, but they should NEVER sell for 20-30 pp!
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Hate to break it to you, But you are wrong. HQ bear pelts are Kinda hard to come by, and they are also the main ingredient for making tailored backpacks (Which sell for around 100 plat) A High Quality Bear Skin is worth 30-40 plat and they can be found on any bear (the only exception that I know of being on Rabid Grizzlies in queynos Hills)
Mr. Anonymous Here is probably a Tailor himself, and Hopes that some New player will read his post and start selling them for 2-3 plat. Well my response is TOUGH! they set the prices of Tailored bags at 100plat. The people responded with making the prices of HQ bear pelts 30-40 plat. Everybody makes a profit that way. (Unless the Tailor Screws up. HEH)
Mr. Anonymous Here is probably a Tailor himself, and Hopes that some New player will read his post and start selling them for 2-3 plat. Well my response is TOUGH! they set the prices of Tailored bags at 100plat. The people responded with making the prices of HQ bear pelts 30-40 plat. Everybody makes a profit that way. (Unless the Tailor Screws up. HEH)
Well he was wrong when he posted that, but he's right now (almost)... they don't sell for 30pp anymore, most you can get now is like 10, due to hq hopperhides. Luclin seriously deflated the value of hq bear pelts.
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You'd ever see one of these, as the ingredient (HQ Bear Pelt) is usually sold for between 20 and 30p. Even casters (it seems to me) would have better use for that kind of money...
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20-30? Really? On the other hand, they drop all over the place from Grizzlys, brownbears and stuff...
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I got one of these at lvl 8, killing brown bears in QH. As my necro couldn't approach the Millers (KoS) I created a ranger mule just to get it. It's a very nice caster item for AC (I'm now 19th and still melee a hell of a lot)
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