There was a change to items. The effects of Vengence is now detailed. Instead of Vengence 3 is would say Attack +15. A flowing thought 3 item would now say Mana Regeneration +3. Or something similar. The gauntlets still have the vengeance effect, it's just not named vengeance
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Posted:Feb 11 2004 at 2:17 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) 30k for 15points of attack!! No way is this worth it. Yeah sure attack is nice but there are beter ways to get it. My attack is currently over 1500 unbuffed add guardian of the forest well over 1600 i could care less about 15 more points. Not worth it, no way ever. Get Shadow agent death bow 1150MM points put a Vengence 3 aug in it and save the plat. 15 attack makes very little if any difference.
/sigh, at 65 you should be looking at Time stuff surely? Pre-65 then maybe this isnt as bad as you claim, though I agree that the price for the actual end result is excessive. I would like your views on a replacement set of gauntlets for around 30k though.
Maybe Livestone Chain Gloves at 40k or, what?
I got Kylong Darkmail atm and need an upgrade that is either possible to get with a group of high 50s and low 60s or in the range of 35k to 40k.
The only other options I can see are the LDoN Gloves of Black Mire or Incorporeal Gauntlets of the Specter. but as im already trying to get the Incorporeal Chain of the Specter at 1500 points, then my choice is very limited.
All I can say about the ornate line of armor for rangers is where's the DEX? Dexterity is an important stat for rangers considering we mainly use our bow and the more crits and higher dmg we can put out the better. Maybe it's just me, but I'm in no hurry to shell out any plat for the ornate line of armor since most pieces lack DEX. Granted, the vengeance effect is quite nice but is it enough to overcome no Dex? Eh, who knows...Rant over.
Ok 3 ac isnt great unless it gets you over a 00 marker. FYI 1201ac and 1299ac are the same as far as the game is concerned. Attack is of more value. Why do you think rogues max str as fast as they can.
Once again, another piece of Ornate armor that rangers get that can easily be upgraded from by a simple tradable piece. I'll be sticking to my Kylong Darkmail Gauntlets for a while... I even added 6 additional stamina to mine.
Kylong Darkmail Gauntlets MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM Slot: HANDS AC: 23 STR: +5 DEX: +5 STA: +10 HP: +45 MANA: +40 Recommended level of 45. WT: 2.2 Size: SMALL Class: WAR CLR PAL RNG SHD BRD ROG SHM Race: ALL Slot 1, type 7:
Well the Ornate have more raw HP's for when you are maxed on stamina. The Ornate has less AC by three though. The Ornate do have wisdom for what that counts for. The Ornate have less mana. The Ornate does have saves even though none of them are outstanding they are there. The major difference of Ornate over the Kylong is the Vengence. They are close but I would take the Orante over the Kylong for the additional HP's Saves and Wisdom. Just what I think though. /smile
the same is true of these gloves that applies to the Swiftwind. The increase in atk is a function of the effect (in this case Vengeance) PLUS the addition of STR. Adding STR raises your atk as well.
Hm I dunno Herrox, when I am maxxed STR buffed, I still gain +20 atk when wearing these gloves. I think every 3 Atk gives you a bonus Atk. Swiftwind says its 30 but you get 40 out of it.
just got these gloves a few days ago. not sure of the reason but im a 62 wood elf ranger and my atk went up 23. i have a 65 half elf ranger friend that got them at the same time and his atk only went up 15. im not going to complain about the increase just seemed odd.
Rangers get a 33pct modifier on atk items. Since 33pct of 15 is 5, the vengeance adds 20atk. Add an additional 4 for str and voila ... equipping the gloves increases atk by 24.