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Edge of Eternity  
 

MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO TRADE PLACEABLE
Slot: PRIMARY SECONDARY
Skill: 1H Slashing Atk Delay: 20
DMG: 20 Dmg Bonus: 30 AC: 20
This item is placeable in yards, guild yards, houses and guild halls.
STR: +20 DEX: +25 WIS: +10 INT: +10 AGI: +18 HP: +180 MANA: +165 ENDUR: +165
SV FIRE: +18 SV COLD: +18 SV POISON: +18
Required level of 65.
Effect: Time Snap (Combat, Casting Time: Instant)
Focus: Percussion Resonance 15
WT: 1.0 Size: MEDIUM
Class: WAR RNG BRD ROG
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type 8 (General: Raid)
Slot 2, Type 20 (Ornamentation)
Item Type:1H Slashing
Stackable:No
Submitted By:Fleven
Lucy Entry By:Vigilyn [Townrebels]
Item Updated By:SwiftyMUSE
Source:Live
IC Last Updated:2020-07-01 23:17:02
Page Updated:Thu Oct 9th, 2008
*This item is the result of a raid event.
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Rarity: Rare
Level to Attain: 65

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Worn pic
# Nov 02 2005 at 11:15 AM Rating: Decent
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Here is what it looks like worn, for those curious: http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v26/ErikVKing/EdgeofEternity-worn.jpg
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Still a worthy weapon
# Sep 20 2005 at 1:41 PM Rating: Decent
I recently won this weapon during one of our weekly Time raids. This replaced my Dagger of Distraction in my offhand. Simply put, a better weapon: much more consistent DPS (the Dagger's cold DMG is simply resisted too often to be considered viable DPS), much better stats, better HPs, mana, etc. As I said under the Cudgel of Wrecking and the Dagger of Distaction, yes, there are better weapons available in the game these days, but acquiring one of those weapons is easier said than done for most people in game. If you are a dual-wielding class and are searching for an upgrade, you could do much worse than to get this weapon. A very good ratio, excellent stats and resists, good HPs and mana, and even a nice proc -- this is a solid overall package (just be aware of the added aggro it can cause you). Highly recommended.

Edited, Tue Sep 20 14:56:14 2005
Why this goes to bards
# Oct 27 2004 at 1:58 PM Rating: Decent
For those of you who have yet to do weekly Time raids:

The simple reason this blade usually goes to a Bard (in DKP and GOD-loot guilds) is not just because of the Percussion mod, but because Bards are usually last on the list for all other weapons that drop in Time. In most cases, Bards only get to bid on a particular weapon if it would rot otherwise. In fact, "Edge of Eternity" and "Songblade of the Eternal" are the only Time weapons that most guilds will allow bards to bid on.

Why? well, all the other weapons are either class-specific (warrior-only, rogue-only, ranger-only), or have focus effects that are worthless for a bard or work better in the hands of another class. Rogues, for example, get priorty on piercers with backstab mods, warriors get priority on the "aggro" weapons with the huge DD procs, and Rangers get priority over Bards for all other weapons.

I know in my guild at least, Bards are always last to get a melee weapon upgrade. It stinks IMHO, because those two weapons mentioned above have less than a 10% chance of dropping (I have been doing Time twice per week for 3 months solid, and seen only 3 drops TOTAL). True, we are not a big DPS class, but it does get under my skin that other classes are awarded Time weapons for their offhand when I'm stuck using a PoP Tier 3 weapon for my primary (Epic 1.0 offhand)!

And if you think this is a warrior aggro weapon, the proc on this generates barely more aggro than the ranger "Call of Sky" proc buff. In fact, of all the "aggro" weapons that drop in Time, this is proably the one with the least amount of aggro.

Oh, and since I know many of you will tell me to just "go do Epic 1.5", let me clue you in. Bards are low priority in our guild (as they are in 75% of all guilds on my server). Guilds believe that the only purpose of a bard is to provide Manasong and AE Resists, and therefore anything that does not directly impact those two things is not worth the guild's time and effort.

Edited, Wed Oct 27 15:48:51 2004
RE: Why this goes to bards
# Apr 16 2005 at 9:13 AM Rating: Default
i agree in that bards (or any class listed on an item) should not be overlooked when an item drops.

The looting should go to anyone useable!

Howerver, this IS one of THREE agro weaps in time. The most agro is the DBoW (Darkblade of the Warlord), 2nd is this EoE (due to stun proc) and third would most likely be Quam hammer.
You may think this "proc on this generates barely more aggro than the ranger "Call of Sky" proc buff" i believe it is because that ranger proc also has a stun component. However, this weap would generate far more agro due to the lvl range. (this being lvl68- stun and CoS to be 55- stun)
RE: Why this goes to bards
# Dec 07 2004 at 12:09 AM Rating: Default
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Yea, what Czaemon said.
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#REDACTED, Posted: Nov 08 2004 at 11:48 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Dude find a new guild that is retarded. I can bid on any item whenever i want... I was the 3rd one to get jagged oynx staff (first and second being rog / bst because they had to many dkp heh) which is pretty nice tank weapon. Our guild leader got the 4th one and he is one of our 2 best tanks both of them being about equal in gear while rest tanks in our guild only 1k hp less. So if ur guild will not like u bid on what u want and is doing DKP find a new guild thats retarded.
RE: Why this goes to bards
# Nov 07 2004 at 3:48 AM Rating: Good
Quote:
And if you think this is a warrior aggro weapon, the proc on this generates barely more aggro than the ranger "Call of Sky" proc buff. In fact, of all the "aggro" weapons that drop in Time

the only other aggro weapon that drops in time is the DBoW. Thus, this is the second best aggro weapon in time. We've seen so many daggers of distraction drop that if a bard asked for one as an upgrade, they'd get it. you're also ignoring the ethereal destroyer and the cudgel of wrecking, and the HoTW. guess what. there are only two weapons worth using for warriors in time, DBoW and this. It's impossible to tank using a ED or a CoW.
huh
# Sep 05 2004 at 7:00 AM Rating: Default
hey.... isnt this weapon war only???? or is that only one luclin server???
RE: huh
# Oct 26 2004 at 4:15 PM Rating: Default
war only would certainly explain the Percussion Instrument mod 8)
RE: huh
# Sep 17 2004 at 9:24 PM Rating: Decent
Only when it has an anger aug in it, like mine...
lol
# Jul 25 2004 at 4:20 PM Rating: Default
I remember when this was so ubber... lol no it still is, but with OoW coming it won't be <sigh>
The Truth
# Jun 15 2004 at 8:19 PM Rating: Good
You know I look at some of these posts and they say ah its okay but........ or nice weapon...... and I cant help but recall when it took 3 or 4 pieces of my entire armor to equal the stats on this one blade. I realize old school guys like myself laugh at these posts however with the new expansions everquest is of course getting harder and you need the better weapons and gear.

I just want some of the newer EQ ers to realize for years it was common to see lvl 40 warriors decked out in crustacean armor and wearing it proudly. In the end game the melle stats are basically mute, I could care less about sta, str, dex, agi,mana and most focus effects. I dont even see those when looking at a drop. I look for dmg/delay for riptose purposes, aggro proc or modifier, resists and the all important CHA for warriors, yes cha is very important for a warrior when clerics are casting on us, and of course HP/AC.

My point is for some of the newer guys to realize when looking at weapons or armor that are dropped in the highest zones to not look at the stats like wis, sta, str, dex, or focus and comment on those and saying well it would be better for a pally cause of the wis when the pally prob has his wisdom capped even if he stripped half his gear. Should a pally or sk get the blade of war, well yes if they bid on it they off tank in almost all raids. I look at this weapon the percussion mod/manna is invisible to me instead I see AGGRO!

I love the new modifiers like stun resist, shielding, etc as I think monks that are pulling and other classes are greatly benefiting from them. Perhaps one day the newer guys will be saying to the new EQ generation how ornate armor use to be the standards for 60-65 warriors and that they should appreciate what they have. Just my opinion from an old foggy.
#REDACTED, Posted: May 28 2004 at 7:47 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Amazeing ,, its Like Cat and Mouse.. Like there being a tool that both could use and it hase a sense traps*giggle* mod on it the mouse thinks hey I SHOULD only get that.. But if you where the cat and you stepped you little Paw on one you would have liked to have had it also.. I mean if it was sense Catnip. or proced chese then hey they still Both could use it maybe the Cat Likes CHEESE.. Maybe the mouse Plays with cat nip!!!
#REDACTED, Posted: May 01 2004 at 3:24 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I still think the monk should get it.
Bards
# Apr 20 2004 at 5:15 PM Rating: Default
Firstly, Rox - you're 59 - be quiet, you haven't even seen plane of tactics most likely. While you talk about something from time. Big difference. Secondly, like stated before this has a 2.5 mod or 150pct. Before you open your mouth know what you're talking about.

This is a GREAT bard weapon. The best bard in my guild (MT bard*) does 130dps with this item including procs... Now excuse me if I'm wrong but that's better than most knight classes dps. Also makes a nice weapon for a bard because it gets us better agro - so we can actually keep the mob off of the cleric if tank goes down.

So ya this is a great weap for bards, one of few with percussion mod on it. Also, wars have tons of options in time - ie DBotWL - granted its rare - but it's still very nice, and EoE isn't common by any means either. Plus, wars do better dps with 2hs anyhow (assuming weaps are about equal in value).

Coming from a points based guild that is about to kill Quarm (1st try at him we got him to 40pct) and a guild that is doing ikkinz trials when not doing time - this weapon is good for bards and wars should realize this - it stinks when wars let bards sit back with our crappy weaps while they stockpile weaps as toys.

Melodico
65th Bard Quellious
Vis Maior

* MT bard refers to bard that sings specific songs for MTs - not a bard tanking. The MT bard tends to be the best equipped one in the guild.

Edited, Sun Apr 25 01:20:33 2004
RE: Bards
# May 05 2004 at 4:21 PM Rating: Default
Heh if we are comparing dps...lets talk about this. For reasons i am not gonna name but a warrior i know on my server with this and a DBtW and WA5 and pretty much max'd melee aa's and defensive, with fellstrike alone he hits for 200-300 non crit hits and a 150dmg dd. I was fully raid buffed which set me at 8775hp at the time an he offe'd me before fellstrike was over. The dps from EoE + DBtW is grossly nice.
RE: Bards
# Sep 27 2004 at 12:47 PM Rating: Default
i do more dps at lvl 37 with my SSoY while AFK and WITH AUTOATTACK OFF, i out dps all of you with just me riposte damage!!
RE: Bards
# Dec 07 2004 at 12:23 AM Rating: Default
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Hah! I got you beat! I can do more DPS with my Langseaxes!

(I wonder how many people even remember those. I was so stoked when I got my set. I had MAGIC weapons! Oooooohhhh!)
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#Viliana, Posted: Apr 19 2004 at 9:02 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) i think this should be only warrior weapon because it will be best like that just take off that bard thing LOL
#REDACTED, Posted: Feb 27 2004 at 10:14 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) not only does it look cool but an AMAZING wep for a ranger just gety lota dex and augment with the 175dd permafrost augment
For the Bards...
# Jan 26 2004 at 1:28 AM Rating: Decent
Roxttar said: "That being said, a Bards desire for this wpn would almost soley depend on the instrument mod, which if it is indeed 1.5 then this thing SUX"

The modifier is +150%, i.e. 2.5, which makes this a very decent drum ignoring the fact it's a nice weapon.

It seems to me that in a guild run by a benevolent autocrat this weapon would go to bards first, but most guilds are using point systems where loot is awarded based on the oddities of EQ economics. The Dagger of Distraction is an 18 + 3 COLD / 20 weapon -- i.e. 21/20 -- that drops off multiple Tier 3 mobs and has a +12% Backstab modifier. Other melee classes should get this (probably cheaply) and leave the Edge of Eternity to bards.

I might also add that this weapon is desireable to bards more for xping than raid encounters, since a bard who melees is generally a bard who gets killed or needs more healing, and weapons with good instrument mods just encourage us ;)

Edited, Mon Jan 26 02:37:33 2004
RE: For the Bards...
# Jan 30 2004 at 12:09 PM Rating: Decent
the dagger is only a 21/20 if the cold damage happens to hold..
LMAO!!!
# Jan 17 2004 at 6:29 PM Rating: Default
lol...I didn't see where any actual Bards posted about this!

I know I can't speak for them all but most bards figure out pretty fast (post lvl 20) that we are not a melee class, meaning we dont do much damage with wpns. We are MUCH more effective using our songs. That being said, a Bards desire for this wpn would almost soley depend on the instrument mod, which if it is indeed 1.5 then this thing SUX. Nice stats, but if you are in PoTime you are prolly just about maxed accross the board anyway.

Before you flame me I know there are Bards out there who melee,(the ones who die alot and get their group killed as well) I myself fought reality for a long time. I would bet my left nut that the "good" bards out there would pass this up cept maybe for a trophy.

Coming from a Bard...Give it to someone who swings a sword for a livivg!



Edited, Sat Jan 17 18:31:23 2004
RE: LMAO!!!
# Jan 18 2004 at 7:07 PM Rating: Default
thats because theres better brd mod weps that their postin at or on dere epic :P



Edited, Mon Jan 19 13:05:55 2004
bard epic
# Jan 17 2004 at 4:59 PM Rating: Decent
Any bard using an epic (at least in Elemental Planes and Time) will be constantly ******* at,
because EVERYONE hates that frigging proc. I spend half my time clicking it off.


#REDACTED, Posted: Oct 25 2003 at 3:04 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Any bard at this point in the game should know how to play a freakin drum by now. This items for monks
Good for any that can use it
# Sep 04 2003 at 8:54 AM Rating: Decent
Got this last night, Saryn was nice enough to drop two for us, first time we had gotten the drop. The blades went to my ranger, and to a warrior.

The proc really isnt a ton of agro compared to what a ranger normally deals with. Most of the spells we use that add a weapon proc are all 0 sec stun. It does add nicely for a warrior id guess, if you were off handing it with a boc, but its not going to get a ranger killed. Not with jolt and cinder jolt to contral agro.

Bards in our guild all have multiple weapons and items for song bonuses. By the time a bard gets to time, they have many many chances at those items.

Basically, who gets this weapon is going to be determined by your system. Its not automatically going to go to any one class, and is quite good for all that can use it.
Not as great...
# Aug 01 2003 at 7:45 PM Rating: Default


Edited, Fri Aug 1 20:37:55 2003
#REDACTED, Posted: Jun 30 2003 at 10:27 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) 20/20 150 dd stun 180hp = huge agro = huge HP= warriors would love this, Guild is trying rallos zek script now so I am a lttle ways from seeing this item but I would most certainly take it in a heartbeat. when I duel weild I use BOC(offhand)and greatblade of storms(mainhand)179 dd plus stun generates as much if not more agro than enraging blow. oh and btw guild has NEVER been to VT nor EVER killed Emp of ssra, nor really even farmed Ssra but has moved steadily through pop MM bert saryn ryddadar everything up to rallos Cleared eveything in SRT but solro himself and one rallos kill from ellementals and him. So i guess we defy the odds and use strategy and tactics to win. I am the second higest hp tank in the guild at 8800 hp and the single highest ac tank with 1700 ac mt has 9.1k and 1500 we use a dkp variant system with some items class restricted and some items given to certain people mainly MTs. I play a huge role in determining what is given and class restricted and although I have yet to see this item depending on the status of tanks this would be one of those items that would fall into those categories.
Fixed
# Jun 11 2003 at 2:37 PM Rating: Default
6/11 patch removed Beastlord and Monk from it.
?
# Jun 07 2003 at 6:44 PM Rating: Decent
ya know makes ya wonder......whats next?
Not only for bards
# Jun 06 2003 at 12:55 AM Rating: Default
20/20 owns for ANY melee class with skill in 1hs, especially with the proc.
hi... dkp..
# May 30 2003 at 12:33 AM Rating: Default
I don't know of a single guild which will get this weapon that doesn't use dkp. And dkp doesn't care which class it's "best suited for", the only thing dkp cares for is who wants it the most and who's got the points to spend.
However a bard would likely spend more dkp on this than other classes would like to spend so it's probably going to go to bards first until they all have one.
RE: hi... dkp..
# Jun 11 2003 at 5:37 PM Rating: Default
Actually, FOH doesnt use DKP and never has, more high end guilds in time or ele planes DONT use DKP than do.
RE: hi... dkp..
# Jun 07 2003 at 6:46 PM Rating: Default
well i wouldent give them all the the bards first you would want some tanks to have one of these to
RE: hi... dkp..
# Jun 05 2003 at 3:42 AM Rating: Decent
Heh uhh we dont use DKP for our loot distribution and we are cranking through PoTime.

Just a little fyi :)

Tanix Moreauix
<Arch Overseers)
Bristlebane
bards
# May 29 2003 at 12:20 PM Rating: Default
I agree this is a bard wepon but after all your bards have this it should go to a warrior for secondary.
RE: bards
# Jun 20 2003 at 6:55 AM Rating: Excellent
if you look at all the Elemental and Great weapons you will see that several of them have instrument modifiers, and a lot of piercers have backstab modifiers. Does this mean that SOE intended those classes with those abilities to use them? Yes and No. I think they made it so if a guild that can equip someone with this as an upgraded, then the have the ablity to do so with out a class restriction so the thing doesn't rot. Of course if it is a sronger upgrade for a member of the precieved best class is there for it then great but, it is not limited if a member of that class is NOT there for the looting of it and can then upgrade the next member of a different class.

Just my thought of this on going rhetoric of "It should go to the Soandso Class for Soandso Reason"
the is more Dogma in that statement than there is in the whole of the Catholic Church. I swear arguing about this is like a religion to some people, heh.

Former Spectator

Erkycose Solaceseeker
Warder of Innoruuk
RE: bards
# May 29 2003 at 3:02 PM Rating: Default
I'd say this would be good for bards, no brainer! lol but what is up with the monks/beastlords??

Edited, Thu Jun 5 20:34:38 2003
#REDACTED, Posted: May 30 2003 at 1:35 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) lol.. 150 DD with Stun is the direct oposite of Hate Lowering.. it screams "ATTACK ME NEXT".
RE: bards
# May 29 2003 at 11:08 PM Rating: Decent
where does it say anything about hate lowering? This weapon dishes out tons of taunt, unmitigated
RE: bards
# Aug 11 2003 at 1:05 AM Rating: Decent
He's saying if a bard looted this and used it they'd die in two secodns flat. At least thats how i interpreted it
RE: bards
# Aug 09 2004 at 5:50 PM Rating: Decent
lol, how would using this kill a bard? In my career, I have routinely dual-wielded stun-procking weaps, and have never taken aggro from the tank. Should a bard take aggro from the tank, then your tank is broken, and should either be repaired or replaced :P. imo, i'd enjoy using it, nice for grouping and cutting **** up.

Siberius Nothingsong
65th broken string, Karana
RE: bards
# Jun 01 2003 at 11:25 AM Rating: Default
who said hate lowering?
Bard Weapon
# May 29 2003 at 2:56 AM Rating: Decent
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Sheesh. I love how some of the debates get started on here.

Bottom line : It's a Bard weapon first. With the Percussion effect, that's who it's primarily meant for.
Don't have a Bard with your raid? Or your raid bards all have this already? Fine, NOW you can award this to a different class.
Just like some of the backstab-modifying daggers that are dropping should go to Rogues first, THEN to secondary classes.

Wake up, people. This is NOT rocket science. If you awarded this weapon to a class other than a Bard, your guild Bards would be fully within their rights to train you at their earliest opportunity.
#REDACTED, Posted: Jun 01 2003 at 1:16 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) If bards ever see this weapon, they should have their epic by now. Which plays ALL instruments.
RE: Bard Weapon
# May 29 2003 at 11:05 AM Rating: Decent
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There are problems with the bard-centric view that instrument modifier = automatic bard award. In short, its the same sort of reasoning that leads some wizards to claim that nuke-affecting foci should default to them, or that led monks some time ago to lay claim to anything low weight.

The longer story is a more complicated one, and deals with some poor decisions on SOE's part concerning bard weapons in the high end game. Prior to PoTime, there are 2 clear choices for "best bard weapon" ... which is ideal, considering that they dual-wield. The first is a bard-only weapon, the Rune Stamped Blade - excellent stats, solid ratio, with a Rune proc. The second is the Reinforced Mephit Talon (which I am not certain that Alla lists yet); the RMT is the top end pre-Time bard weapon, bar none, and even comes with a hefty Brass Instrument modifier.

There are problems with these weapons. The Rune Stamped Blade drops in an even in PoAir that most guilds are not going to want to farm, and drops their rarely. The RMT has been "upgraded" recently, changing its class list from Bard-only to war.rng.brd.rog and giving it a 12% backstab modifier. So ... is it a rogue default now? A bard default? And item to be given to a ranger so that bards and rogues can complain on equal footing?

In a perfect EQ-world, items with instrument modifiers might be able to be awarded to bards all the time (and items with +backstab would go to rogues). But who gets this item will depend on the award system each guild has in place, and the particular needs of that guild. It won't always go to a bard. Instrument modifiers are "bard-only foci", essentially, and like all foci, they are not the whole of an item.
#REDACTED, Posted: Jun 05 2003 at 8:16 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Well...who cares if ya got epic (all instru) when ya got the string ring (wtf? lol) and the wind shoulders (another wierdo) and a brass sword? add this and I don't know what else you would need cuz i'm not a bard
classes
# May 28 2003 at 9:06 PM Rating: Decent
Bard or Warrior only should be awarded this. hands down
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