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Robe of the Oracle [ID 1354]  

AC: 9
WIS: +5 INT: +5 MANA: +25
Focus: Improved Damage I
WT: 2.0 Size: MEDIUM
Slot 1, Type 7 (General: Group)
Slot 2, Type 21 (Special Ornamentation)
Item Type:Armor
Appearance:Robe of the Oracle
Color (RGB):0, 0, 0
Merchant Value:6 pp 0 gp 0 sp 0 cp
Submitted By:Doriath
Lucy Entry By:Kerasota
Item Updated By:SwiftyMUSE
IC Last Updated:2020-06-25 02:02:36
Page Updated:Mon Apr 10th, 2017
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Average Price: 400pp Pricing Data...
Rarity: Common
Level to Attain: 30

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What is an item REALLY worth?
# Aug 29 2001 at 1:36 PM Rating: Decent
To everyone that thinks an item is worth what the buyer is willing to pay: A person who is buying an item does not yet own said item. A person who is selling said item sets the price for it.

An item is worth EVERY LAST PENNY that the SELLER is willing to sell it for. Until you are allowed to go and pimpslap somebody for their gear, a person who is selling an item sets the price and it is the buyer's job to either talk the seller down or move on to the next item up for bid. You cannot own what you have not yet bought. Therefore you cannot set a price for it because you do not own it.
RE: What is an item REALLY worth?
# Apr 21 2002 at 4:38 PM Rating: Good
99 posts
I like this point, despite the criticisms raised by others about buyer's demand. Basic econ 101 stuff.

In fact, the truth is a bit more interesting. A person holding the items finds more value in it than another person in the same situation who ISN'T holding the item.

So the claim that the seller knows the value the best has some truth to it, because the seller actually holds the item. And after all, the value of the item that will eventually matter the most to the buyer is its value when owned.

Okay, I'm a geek, I'll admit it.
RE: What is an item REALLY worth?
# Nov 29 2001 at 1:39 AM Rating: Good
Yep. You can set the price for whatever you want as the seller. Then when nobody buys it for that price they must just not understand it's value. Oh and please everyone go to EBay and take a look at the toaster that I just put up for auction. Starting bids as low as $600. I loved that toaster. Very useful indeed. And I'm sure that everyone will want it for $600 because that's what I say it's worth, and I'm the seller.

Does something seem not right here? A little silly? EQ is the same. Who here would buy my Drachnid Leg Tip for 2Kpp? Nobody. Why? Because it's not worth 2kpp TO THE BUYER, or even 100pp, not worth it. It's not a difficult concept and I'm not making fun, I'm making sense.
RE: What is an item REALLY worth?
# Nov 23 2001 at 9:41 PM Rating: Good
3,705 posts
If an item is worth the amount that the seller is asking, I've got a rusty longsword worth 10kpp cause thats what I'm asking. Not really, but you see the problem. The last post states the argument pretty well, I just can't believe egor made the original statement.

The value of an item, is the highest price that the market will bear. If I offer an item for sale, and nobody wants to buy it, it is not worth that much.
RE: What is an item REALLY worth?
# Dec 01 2003 at 5:28 PM Rating: Excellent
17 posts
Yah, and I do believe that THAT is the truth of it all. NOBODY sells ANYTHING at ANY PRICE that NOBODY wants to PAY, and those who try simply go out of business.
RE: What is an item REALLY worth?
# Sep 25 2001 at 4:21 AM Rating: Good
That's slightly backwards.

An item is worth what SOMEONE is willing to pay for it. Not the lowest price that a potential buyer offers either, but you don't have a monopoly on item availability in EQ, so there are other sellers around.

Let me give you an example. If I try to sell one of these robes for 1kpp, because that's what it used to sell for way back when, does that make its value 1kpp? No -- because people can buy other robes for less money, even Oracle Robes, from other people.

I -could- try to sell it to a Vendor, who will offer me 5-6 PP for it. So does that make its' value 5-6 PP? Again, no.

However, if I go to EC/Gfay/Oasis or wherever, and try to sell it for about 500, I stand a decent chance of getting something like that price (most likely to be with some bartering, but still). If I offer it at 300, it'll go pretty fast. So the "value" of such a robe (on Brell at least) is somewhere between 300 and 600 - how low you choose to go will determine how fast you sell it.
RE: What is an item REALLY worth?
# Oct 11 2001 at 5:01 PM Rating: Good
316 posts
I have to agree that the buyer sets the price.

If an item is particularly useful but is being hawked by just about every other player you run into in NFP, the buyer can certainly command his price. Otherwise, there is another seller a few feet further on, and another, and then another still.

On the other hand, any item that goes up on the block once in a blue moon is another story. In that case, however, a buyer would still have to REALLY want to buy it to fork over the plat without even a little haggling over price.

Haggling is an integral (and arguably the most enjoyable) part of the game of buying and selling, just as a chase is usually more exciting than the catch at its conclusion. Learn to enjoy that part of the game instead of relying on pricing data on any number of web sites like this one; and use shouted PCs as more of a guide, to set the tone of the haggling, than quoted gospel.
RE: What is an item REALLY worth?
# Jan 10 2002 at 11:20 PM Rating: Default
Actualy, you're all wrong. It's both the buyer and the seller who set the price. In Eco 101 they tell you that the equilibrium price of an item lies at the intersection of the supply and demand curve. That is, a buyer has a certain schedule of prices that they will pay for an item, and a seller has a schedule at which they will sell an item. When a seller finds a buyer who is willing to pay what he is asking, then they make the deal. That's it. If I don't offer enough for that Robe, and the seller doesn't accept my price, then I value it less than he does. When I find someone who will accept my price, then that's the price. So all this talk of what a TRUE value is is completely wrongheaded. The price of an item is what someone will pay for it and what someone will sell it for. Don't get too complicated with it.
RE: What is an item REALLY worth?
# Dec 01 2003 at 5:15 PM Rating: Excellent
16 posts
It's a game, dude, not REAL Economics, so Warric was trying to say that all the bartering is a game too and you can roleplay that part instead of pulling out your sliderule and getting all egghead about it
did some trading
# Aug 08 2001 at 1:55 AM Rating: Default
17 posts
Started off with 0pp on me or in bank, wanted this robe so i had some good items to trade off. gave an ice crystal staff to a guy for one of them purple mana dolls that looked like a skull in my inventory and 200pp. next i sell a DRT for a whopping 150pp! i spend 65pp for a set of icetooth claws from a close friend(they usually sell for 300pp on vallon zek). and finally i trade the icetooth claws and 200pp for the oracle robe.
#REDACTED, Posted: Aug 06 2001 at 12:10 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I want to buy this robe if its still for sale.
#Anonymous, Posted: Aug 01 2001 at 4:15 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I love this robe! I traded a Black Flowing Robe and Stien of Mogguk for The Oracle and a Mana Doll that looks like a Skull in my inventory. Forgot name of item (purple voodoo doll)already oops! The person who traded it to me paid 200pp.
# Aug 01 2001 at 8:39 AM Rating: Default
it is a bit costy but it doesnt really matter what anyone else says it what it sells for.
# Jul 16 2001 at 7:09 AM Rating: Default
How can no one like the looks? I'm going to buy one for the looks!!
RE: Looks
# Jun 16 2002 at 11:43 AM Rating: Default
me too, hehe, i LOVE THIS ROBE!
#Anonymous, Posted: Jun 10 2001 at 9:27 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) My lvl 6 high elf chanter bought it for 50pp from someone trying to get rid of it. Looks cool on high elves and now people think I'm twinked (until they see my crappy dagger and cloth armor of course :P )!
#Anonymous, Posted: Jun 20 2001 at 12:34 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Forget about the robe...A level 6 chanter (having had to bought level 4 spells) who has 50pp lying around and I'm supposed to believe that he hasn't been twinked AT ALL?
#Anonymous, Posted: Jun 20 2001 at 12:34 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Forget about the robe...A level 6 chanter (having had to bought level 4 spells) who has 50pp lying and I'm supposed to believe that he hasn't been twinked AT ALL?
#Anonymous, Posted: May 26 2001 at 6:39 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post)
# May 17 2001 at 7:58 PM Rating: Default
my robe is 9 ac, 5 wis int, 25 mana, and 7 dex..
RE: $$COST$$
# May 14 2001 at 12:24 PM Rating: Default
This robe is worth 250pp on Xev and don't let anyone tell you different. I got one for 200pp and sold it for 250pp, I personally hated the way my Wizard looked in it so I went back to the Flowing Black Robe, hehe.
RE: $$COST$$
# Jul 13 2001 at 5:37 AM Rating: Default
Well i'm telling you different.

200p-250pp will get you an FBR, not an O-robe.

I'm a firm believer in that item value is not worth what a pricing site tells you, but what someone will pay for it.

Someone pays 500p... wow there you go, its worth 500.

However, if bargaining isn't for you, its average is around 350-400pp.
RE: $$COST$$
# Jul 23 2001 at 6:37 AM Rating: Decent
I dont know how long ago this was posted but I can buy a flowing black robe for 75p and an orcale robe for around 200p. So the flowing black robe isn't with 200p and personally I wouldn't pay that much for it anyway. the orcale robe is lucky to sell for 300-350p anymore, unless someone really wants it and has money to spend, but most of us dont.
RE: $$COST$$
# Jul 24 2001 at 5:59 AM Rating: Decent
57 posts
The price of an item is never fixed. The price of an item is what the buyer wants to give for it. For example, some people might wanna sell this robe for 200pp, lets say even 100pp : this does NOT mean the item is only worth 100pp, and it does NOT mean everyone who is selling it at a higher price is ripping people off. True, prices are going down fast nowadays, because more and more items are being found and people want to sell them fast. But only looking at the stats of the robe (and NOT considering how much the robe goes for on this or that server) I wouldn´t say 400pp is an unfair price.
Great looking
# May 13 2001 at 5:31 PM Rating: Default
I know a lot of people hate the way this robe looks, but I love it.. I can't wait until I can afford it or go after it. I am gearing my character towards being an Air Conjurer, so the light blue and gold is great.
# May 13 2001 at 5:18 AM Rating: Decent
Why is this item lore?

I find it odd, that this item is marked as lore, and the main topic is the price.
RE: Lore?
# Jul 19 2001 at 4:36 AM Rating: Decent
30 posts
Lore does NOT mean no drop. :)
RE: Lore?
# Jul 09 2001 at 7:05 AM Rating: Default
why do you find it odd..LORE IS NOT NO DROP you moron
#Anonymous, Posted: May 06 2001 at 9:40 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) i have one on Druzzil, /tell Aeeriie tomarrow from 4:00PM CST to bout 9 CST
#Anonymous, Posted: May 04 2001 at 6:22 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) If you have seen the lowest price is 490pp for the robe then how did you get it for 300pp dang you are stupid make up your mind was it 490pp or 300pp
#Anonymous, Posted: Apr 28 2001 at 10:08 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) This robe is one ugly POS.
casting monkey
# Apr 23 2001 at 11:58 AM Rating: Decent
Wearing this robe and holding a fools gold stein, my monkey would look like a caster.

#Anonymous, Posted: Apr 22 2001 at 5:05 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I got My oracle Robe in FP for 400pp each. I am selling one of them for 400pp. If you are in Drinal Sever My name is Fellip
#Anonymous, Posted: Apr 22 2001 at 5:04 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I got 2 Oracle robes in freeport for 400pp. I am trying to sell one for 400pp If you are in Drinal Server My name is Fellip.
#Anonymous, Posted: Apr 20 2001 at 11:46 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) haha he is a ****
#REDACTED, Posted: Apr 19 2001 at 12:05 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I have an oracle robe for sale on Innoruuk. This is my first time on this thing so excuse me if this is the wrong place, or Im not doing it right. lol is my email if you need to get ahold of me.
RE: Robe of the Oracle
# Apr 20 2001 at 2:45 AM Rating: Excellent
Not that i mind much, but you will get better results if you use the "For Sale" tab, under "Equipment" to the left of your screen.)
Be sure to post it in the right server
Good luck
#Anonymous, Posted: Apr 12 2001 at 4:30 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I didnt know the price range, and neither did the seller, so he sold it to me for 200pp and a couple of fine crafted steel waepons, later i gave him another 400pp cause i found out and felt bad. hehe crazy world.
# Apr 12 2001 at 4:26 PM Rating: Default
I got this robe at lvl 11 , got it from a lvl 29 druid. he paid 700pp for it in FP. The crystaline robe isnt any better than the oracle and the Crystaline goes between 5k and 6k. stick with the oracle unless you need a change.
RE: Oracle
# Apr 12 2001 at 4:28 PM Rating: Default
I agree the oracle is the best unless you have the 6k to buy a crystaline robe.
Amberr darkmire (necromancer of drinal)
#Anonymous, Posted: Apr 09 2001 at 8:39 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) it sucks lol
#Anonymous, Posted: Feb 27 2001 at 11:00 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) hehe, i got this robe at lvl 6... i had a friend who kinda helped, but i had 800 pp and /auction WTB one in faymart, i offered 800... probably could of got it for 600 or 700 *sigh* oh well, its all good since i got it anyway. hey, i was just a stupid newbie, hehe, but like i said... IT IS ALL GOOD (ps anyone want this and some pp for a trade for a crystalline robe I WANT ONE OF THOSE BADLY)
# Feb 26 2001 at 9:59 PM Rating: Default
I really want one of these robes. Right now I have a green silken drape, which someone will buy for 200pp, and I also have about 900pp saved up. I don't want to get ripped how much is it worth, and what is a reasonable price???
RE: $$COST$$
# Feb 27 2001 at 5:30 PM Rating: Default
Hey see where it says Average Price: 665pp?
Expect to spend that much.
RE: $$COST$$
# Mar 04 2001 at 3:21 PM Rating: Default
The lowest is about 300 & STAND FIRM AT THAT PRICE. You would not believe what time will get ya. I bought my oracle for 300, sold it for 650, and just a few days ago bought a crystalline robe for 1.3k. TIME IS ON OUR SIDE!
RE: $$COST$$
# Mar 01 2001 at 8:03 PM Rating: Default
On Erolissi marr they go very commonly for 600pp I got it for 300 but someone was very generous. The lowest ive seen them for is 490
RE: $$COST$$
# Jun 09 2001 at 7:09 AM Rating: Decent
54 posts

As posted within the pricing information, whilst listening in on the general spam on /auc in East Commons -- the place to sell EQ on the Ayonae Ro server -- I have witnessed a dramatic price variance:

1st player /auc 800pp for the Robe. Now, I always like to listen to auction to become conversant of (1) what I should be aiming to purchase for my class, (2) and general pricing information.

10 minutes later, 2nd player /auc 400pp for the Robe!? For a non-twinked character such as myself, 400pp is quite a big variance. It definately -does- pay to bide ones time and be a little patient just to establish a *sense* of how much particular items cost in particular zones.

Note: I have heard the Robe on /auc in Kelethin for 800pp. Hmmm. Think I'll bide my time on this one, of which I have plenty whilst I raise the necessary pp to purchase this item.

(12 seasons fledgling Enchanter)
Ayonae Ro server
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