Planes of PowerActually, this is a pretty good 2hs weapon. In many situations, Vex Thal for example, mobs are corner tanked or wall tanked, making archery DPS significantly less or nonexistant. We also have to melee when mobs are mezzed (SSRA, VT, Seru) or get the wrath of our friendly chanters. Using 1 handed weapons we generate a lot more aggro than 2h.
Also, the weapons that are better than this cost a lot of DKP (Seru, Emperor, HoH Warder's Ornate, etc) or PP (Windblade). Being able to get this for free is pretty damn nice.
No archer should melee whenever archery can be used, but there are plenty of times where melee is necessary and 2h DPS > 1h DPS.
Huntsman's Cleaver
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aggro with 2 H weaps is now just as high as with 1 H weaps, they fixed that long ago.
if you are in ,say,VT your tanks will surely have some decent aggro weapons on their own, so aggro is not an issue there anyways.
you do know that 2H Dam (with full aas)>> bow damage, right ??
so in short, this weap is crap .
hunter Roxas Nitehowler
forest stalker of illumanati
MM
if you are in ,say,VT your tanks will surely have some decent aggro weapons on their own, so aggro is not an issue there anyways.
you do know that 2H Dam (with full aas)>> bow damage, right ??
so in short, this weap is crap .
hunter Roxas Nitehowler
forest stalker of illumanati
MM
hunter Roxas Nitehowler
Plainswalker of illumanati
MM, EQ
hunter Roxas
WoW retired
Plainswalker of illumanati
MM, EQ
hunter Roxas
WoW retired
13 posts
I disagree, this is junk. There are much better 2 handers available in much easier to reach zones.
Grim
Grim
this weapon sucks, 41 31 2hb from bot tower and 45 35 2hs from hoh trial own this on dps, this ratio sucks for rng 2hs
99 NIN/DNC/WAR/MNK/SAM/BST/WHM/RDM
70 BLM/RNG
70 BLM/RNG
#REDACTED,
Posted: Mar 28 2003 at 8:06 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) the damage/delay ratio is such garbage that you dont need an aggro reduceing proc in my opinion
#REDACTED,
Posted: Mar 28 2003 at 5:29 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) i think this effect should be an a 1hs or a bow that would be sick
this one should be one of the droppable 2hs'ers for ranger, if you can get this it's pure and utter ******
33/30, how would this ever beat a 33/30 bow with the aa you would need to get into a guild capable of getting you flagged for this plane?
maybe i'm wrong, this coming from the enchanter who doesn't nuke cause it's not worth it.
33/30, how would this ever beat a 33/30 bow with the aa you would need to get into a guild capable of getting you flagged for this plane?
maybe i'm wrong, this coming from the enchanter who doesn't nuke cause it's not worth it.
22 posts
I noticed a few CRAPPY no drop ranger only weapons drop here, also that one crap no drop ranger only bow... what was SOE thinking? These things shouldn't be no drop.
Oh and i'll add... What ranger would ever pull argo with this crappy sword in the first place? The effect is totaly useless.
Edited, Mon Jul 28 12:38:47 2003
Oh and i'll add... What ranger would ever pull argo with this crappy sword in the first place? The effect is totaly useless.
Edited, Mon Jul 28 12:38:47 2003
9 posts
LOL, ok i dont know what rangers u people are playing or what kinda Tanks your guild got, but Rangers can't tank, they can hold agro, but so can a wizard, that dont make u a tank this is a good ranger wepon, but ranger bow dmg still much better, but a ranger should never be tanking, and they really souldn't be Tanking Anything that hits so hard u guann have to worry about the repose factor and switch to a 2h wepon
I am a 65 ranger, decent gear, and flagged for this zone, I would use this sword as a toy mostly for killin greenies and farming trade skill stuffs.
and quite often I do tank mobs including some of the named in BoT, with good gear, and the right amount of AA skills, a ranger can be a tank and a decent one at that, the rest is up to the cleric and shaman.
and quite often I do tank mobs including some of the named in BoT, with good gear, and the right amount of AA skills, a ranger can be a tank and a decent one at that, the rest is up to the cleric and shaman.
#REDACTED,
Posted: Mar 27 2003 at 5:47 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) This is a piece of **** and someone should be shot for making a 2h ranger item that is a piece of ****. *** ALL RANGERS
Why Do IDIOTS with stupid names post such Trash???
You answered your own question I believe.
They are idiots, and although they have a stupid name, it took 100% of their brilliance and mental stamina to come up with that name.
This leaves little in the way of intellectual resources to draw on for interesting, witty and informative dialog.
I really do think he is trying his hardest...
They are idiots, and although they have a stupid name, it took 100% of their brilliance and mental stamina to come up with that name.
This leaves little in the way of intellectual resources to draw on for interesting, witty and informative dialog.
I really do think he is trying his hardest...
Acually a death eater is a follower of Voldemort from harry potter, he did not come up with it on his own but i agree he is an idiot
18 posts
This is a perfect weapon for a ranger as long as he/she is not the main tank (which I hope is the case). This will allow ranger to have their normal damage output without needing to worry about gaining agro and dying.
Easy 2 group kill, this is the common
Actually, a ranger tanks best when using a 2h weapon, especially in PoP becuz a lot of the damage taken is from ripostes. I do it to great affect in 1st tier planes, often times i put together full dps groups with me as the tank and we go through the CY mobs like crazy. My DPS is better than a pally/sk 2hs and i can hold agro so easily its not even funny. Ranger 2 rogues Mage Cleric Shaman makes the CY mobs dead fast.
you are seriously wrong i am a pally and can hold aggro over any other class cause of my chain stuns really **** them off and taunting on top of that
21 posts
Pally or SK are great for holding agro, but make no mistakes a ranger can take it away from you. Sounds stupid but look at the Warder's ornate broadsword. it genereates huge amounts of agro without me even hitting taunt/snare or flamelick. I could run you oom and you'd still never get the mob off me. However that's not what we want to do. We have our role and you have yours, just don't assume you know what a ranger can and can't do compared to your class.
Scholar
38 posts
You ever played a ranger? Looked at his abilities? They get that taunt button as well. And yes your chain stuns are nice...and it does **** off a mob to no end... but I can steal agro from you anytime I want.. not that I would. How? Snare, immolate, proc earthcall, proc call of fire. When grouping for exp, I am often the MT in tier one planes. Why? Because the enchanter rarely takes a hit when I am playing the tank. When I pull I use snare, throw on the immolate, then do it again just for kicks, and then by the time we are back in camp, the mob is so pissed at me... rarely do I even have to use the taunt button... but on that rare occasion when the mob turns from me, hit taunt and right back at me he comes.
But I know how to play my ranger, and I can give anyone that wants agro to them. I do what the group needs me to do..whether it be MT, dps, or gheto CC.
Now back to the sword...it looks like a fun "toy" to play with when you want to get in there and melee and not steal agro. Would be great for uping skill if you didn't have it maxed. Or like someone else said, for farming tradeskill items against greenies.
Tinial
Ranger of Tunare
Currently lvl 61 with 44 AA points <come on 45!>
But I know how to play my ranger, and I can give anyone that wants agro to them. I do what the group needs me to do..whether it be MT, dps, or gheto CC.
Now back to the sword...it looks like a fun "toy" to play with when you want to get in there and melee and not steal agro. Would be great for uping skill if you didn't have it maxed. Or like someone else said, for farming tradeskill items against greenies.
Tinial
Ranger of Tunare
Currently lvl 61 with 44 AA points <come on 45!>
7 posts
A little off topic here.
Odd though, as a 52 SK, I see my DPS as basically equivilent to rangers and pally's when grouped. This with everone using their big 2h weapons too.
I see a lot of posts talking about rangers being a superior DPS class though. I do agree with this while they are using trueshot (55-disc), however during general grouping - the only time I see differences occur it is due to gear quality, or current buff state. Is there something I'm missing? (I'm not talking about the specific roles in groups, or soloing. All classes have their special place there, I'm just talking from a straight grouped DPS standpoint. With all melee fully buffed to the groups extent at all times, as you would normally expect.)
Any enlightenment would be appreciated!
Malfacto Venomblood 52 SK
Odd though, as a 52 SK, I see my DPS as basically equivilent to rangers and pally's when grouped. This with everone using their big 2h weapons too.
I see a lot of posts talking about rangers being a superior DPS class though. I do agree with this while they are using trueshot (55-disc), however during general grouping - the only time I see differences occur it is due to gear quality, or current buff state. Is there something I'm missing? (I'm not talking about the specific roles in groups, or soloing. All classes have their special place there, I'm just talking from a straight grouped DPS standpoint. With all melee fully buffed to the groups extent at all times, as you would normally expect.)
Any enlightenment would be appreciated!
Malfacto Venomblood 52 SK
Scholar
29 posts
True, at lvl 52 a ranger and a SK with comparable gear are going to do about the same amount of dmg, because skills are capped about the same. However, my 60 Ranger just blows my friend's 60 SK's DPS out of the water, because the Ranger's offensive skills are far superior. Not to mention the fact that the tank gets much lower DPS simply because they are attacking from the front and periodically being stunned (if they aren't an ogre). Not a bash on the SK class. They're just not designed for DPS.
SKs make damn fine exp-group tanks, though. When I'm grouped with a SK I can actually use my mana for nukes, whereas with most warriors and many paladins I must spend all my time and mana chain-jolting.
Edited, Fri Mar 28 13:45:00 2003
SKs make damn fine exp-group tanks, though. When I'm grouped with a SK I can actually use my mana for nukes, whereas with most warriors and many paladins I must spend all my time and mana chain-jolting.
Edited, Fri Mar 28 13:45:00 2003
10 posts
Knight weapon skills cap at 225. Most Ranger weapon skills cap at 250.
Knight offense caps at 230. Ranger Offense caps at 252.
Rangers ATK will almost universally exceed Knight ATK.
With equivalent or slightly inferior weapons, Rangers will always outdamage Knight melee.
As stated before and elsewhere, in PoP Rangers can get much higher DPS by using 2handers over dual wield, due to the reduction in riposte damage taken.
Knight offense caps at 230. Ranger Offense caps at 252.
Rangers ATK will almost universally exceed Knight ATK.
With equivalent or slightly inferior weapons, Rangers will always outdamage Knight melee.
As stated before and elsewhere, in PoP Rangers can get much higher DPS by using 2handers over dual wield, due to the reduction in riposte damage taken.
Yeah but the proc on it is a 500 pt hate reducer -- great under normal circumstances but completely and utterly useless when we are trying to maintain agro. I do agree, if we are going to tank, we need a two-handed weapon, just not this two-weapon.
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