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Sapphire Spiroc Feather  
 

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Slot: CHARM
HP: +7
SV FIRE: +3 SV COLD: +3 SV MAGIC: +3
WT: 0.5 Size: TINY
Class: ALL
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type 7 (General: Group)
Item Information:
Grants a bonus as you gain charisma.
Item Type:Charm
Charm Effect:Grants a bonus as you gain charisma.
Stackable:No
Lucy Entry By:Kerasota
Item Updated By:SwiftyMUSE
Source:Live
IC Last Updated:2020-11-24 08:29:37
Page Updated:Thu Oct 9th, 2008
Legacy of Ykesha Item


Average Price: 250pp Pricing Data...
Rarity: Common
Level to Attain: 45

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Drops: This item is found on creatures.

Gulf of Gunthak


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Grants a bonus as you gain Charisma.

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# Sep 11 2004 at 10:25 PM Rating: Decent
Now Droppable.
bonus?
# Feb 23 2004 at 10:27 PM Rating: Decent
anyone know the bonus?
Hrm...
# May 13 2003 at 3:10 PM Rating: Default
When I first saw this listed, I thought it said Sapphic Spiroc Feather... :p
Tested extensively ...
# Mar 09 2003 at 7:28 AM Rating: Excellent
18 posts
Have tested this fairly exensively with my level 61 Ench. It is definately linked to INT not CHA atm. The stats are sometimes 'one click behind'. What I mean by that is there seems to be an update problem with displaying the stats for this item. If you change your INT and check then nothing seems to change until you take and replace an item in inventory, even a non effect item like the shuriken I carry in my ammo slot as a rez marker. I can confirm that at 260 INT it has 7HP 3MR 3CR 3FR. I am hoping this may increase as I reach 62 and my INT/CHA cap lifts again.

Update:

After the patch on 13th March the stats on this charm were changed so that they increased with CHA not INT. Currently I am 63 with a cap of 270 on CHA. Have not seen better than 8HP 3MR 3CR 3FR from this item which is achieved at 270 CHA. Not great perhaps but better than an empty slot :)

Finally maxed PP and cap on CHA is now 305. Final stats on this item are 12HP 5MR 5CR 5FR. Given that I now have the Intricately Carved Figurine and EP access its kind of accademic interest, but there you go.


Edited, Sun Aug 3 03:21:44 2003
RE: Tested extensively ...
# Jun 13 2003 at 9:28 PM Rating: Decent
From what I've seen on the charms they seem to go up by 50's. People check at 160, 270 305, et. Usually above 300 they seem to be maxed out. In this case possibly 10/5/5/5. Just an observation.

Edited, Fri Jun 13 21:48:24 2003
Doesn't work for me at all
# Mar 07 2003 at 5:12 AM Rating: Decent
Well it seems that everybody has having different experiences with this. Some get bonuses at fairly low cha, some get virtually nothing at very high cha. One guys bonuses go down as his cha goes up.. and for others its based on Int.

Make me wonder about the combinations of Cha and Int on the items they may be swapping.

In any case, I looted this today, 5/6/03, and it does nothing for me at all. Change my cha to a mariad of values ranging from 75 to 167, and did not see a single bonus. I also tried pumping my int up to about 120.. and nothing. =/

I'm a 35 druid on Sullon Zek.
#REDACTED, Posted: Mar 08 2003 at 6:34 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Maybe because according to your post you haven't looted it yet.
RE: Doesn't work for me at all
# Apr 11 2005 at 1:53 PM Rating: Default
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Well I think the best explanation is they went back in time to make the post. Either way I got this charm on my chanter and I'm not very impressed either.
just got this
# Mar 05 2003 at 8:25 PM Rating: Decent
just got this for my enc hoping to have better luck then the stats posted here

with 260int 260cha

same as before 7hp 3mr 3fr 3cr

initial testin indicates int based but saw some weird behavior with it so not quite sure
still broken
# Mar 04 2003 at 6:30 PM Rating: Decent
While swapping equipment this seem to be working on Int at the moment not cha with 255 int I had hp7 sv fire, cold and magic 3, and it dropped the lower my Int weent Cha had no effect it was the same with 110 cha as with 206 cha
Disappointed!!!
# Mar 03 2003 at 1:33 PM Rating: Default
Given the amount of selling I do, I have a huge amount of CHA items about, and what I discovered is that this item's message is *false*...at a base CHA of 70, this item conferrs +5 hp, +2 saves to magic, fire, and cold. At 125 CHA, this drops to +3hp, +1 saves to magic/fire/cold. In other words, it starts out really low and actually gets LOWER unless you're butt-ugly...
RE: Disappointed!!!
# Mar 04 2003 at 1:16 PM Rating: Default
/sigh

I guess the patch message was wrong (again).

Still, it's now probably rather a good item for all those ultra-low-Charisma Necromancers. :D
RE: Disappointed!!!
# Mar 06 2003 at 9:38 PM Rating: Decent
Contrary to what yu may have heard, necro's get no bonus for having low cha. And if charming in say HS it is a hiderance to have low cha.

Again low cha DOES NOT improve fear.
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RE: Disappointed!!!
# Mar 07 2003 at 3:37 PM Rating: Decent
no one said anyhting about that in the above posts, just that necros have low cha, and they do cause all the good gear drops your cha. Little touchy arent we ?
RE: Disappointed!!!
# Mar 10 2003 at 11:17 PM Rating: Default
Very true, and cha does affect mez and charm. But I am uncertain how a neg cha affects a necros ability to charm and mez undead. With an enc the higher the cha the better, but does a more neg actually help a necro? I have a necro alt I am looking to play soon, and most of the good gear I have seen for him have a neg cha on it. I just don't want to twink out my necro alt with gear that will end up hurting him more than just using my leftover wizzy gear and boosting his hps and sta. Hopefully VI and now SOE have enough sense to make a necros' mez and charm checks based on how low the cha is and not how high like an enc or other charming/mez class.

BTW - with magelo being down from LoY, all of my stuff is severly outdated.

Edited, Mon Mar 10 22:45:07 2003
RE: Disappointed!!!
# Mar 13 2003 at 1:57 PM Rating: Default
check eqcaster. it lists what affects the spell, and i doubt cha helps necro charms... it's only for enchanters.

i know for sure druid charms aren't altered with cha.
RE: Disappointed!!!
# Mar 11 2003 at 3:29 AM Rating: Decent
He was refering to the thought that a lower charisma makes fear last it's full duration more consistently. I've seen tests done with this where they measured a fairly consistent longer duration with lower charisma and then decided it was inconclusive because it was only a difference of maybe 5 seconds, but when you're talking about max duration of 48 seconds, 5 seconds is a fairly large difference. Personally, I was always rather sceptical about it, but it does seem to be the case, even if it is only the difference of a few seconds. The other big factor being level, which makes a bigger difference than charisma anyways. Remember, higher charisma only affects average charm and mez durations by a similar percentage. But in the end, it's up to you to decide what you believe. For the longest time I was sceptical of it as well.
RE: Disappointed!!!
# Mar 05 2003 at 4:27 PM Rating: Decent
not good for necro;s got this and with 67cha it gave me 4hp 2res fire 2res cold 2res magic. put on sellers steins(25cha steins) put me to 117cha and it gave me 4hp 1res fire 1 res cold 1 res magic. then dropped cha by 5 to 62 and was 4hp 1res fire 1 res cold 1 res magic. so obviously is bugged. even though they were supposed to have fixed it.
Liif 56 cler
Beezle 52 Necro
Kashka 52 Bard
All of Crimson Moon on the 7th Hammer sever
RE: Disappointed!!!
# Mar 05 2003 at 4:27 PM Rating: Default
not good for necro;s got this and with 67cha it gave me 4hp 2res fire 2res cold 2res magic. put on sellers steins(25cha steins) put me to 117cha and it gave me 4hp 1res fire 1 res cold 1 res magic. then dropped cha by 5 to 62 and was 4hp 1res fire 1 res cold 1 res magic. so obviously is bugged. even though they were supposed to have fixed it.
Liif 56 cler
Beezle 52 Necro
Kashka 52 Bard
All of Crimson Moon on the 7th Hammer sever
Compiled List of Warrior Usable Charms
# Mar 03 2003 at 11:52 AM Rating: Excellent
I have put together with the help of the Warrior community a Compiled List of Warrior Useable Charms. So far it is the most complete list of charms. It is updated daily so as I get information I post it.
Got it!
# Feb 27 2003 at 7:57 PM Rating: Excellent
Inside the fort in Gunthak...dropped off a rare spawn...a troll named Soothsayer something-or-other. So far with only 91 charisma its given me +5 hp, and +2 on 3 different saves...magic, fire, and cold. Hope this helps. =)

Edited, Thu Feb 27 19:48:19 2003
RE: Got it!
# Mar 02 2003 at 4:16 AM Rating: Excellent
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128 posts
Soothsayer Mrugg Doxok

He spawns in the inside the fort at the north east corner and wanders south. He has a PH, I got Doxok to spawn about once every 4-5 spawn cycles (the spawn time is the same as the other trolls in the fort).

[EDIT] Yes, PH roams too.

He hasnt dropped the charm for me yet.

He dropped Zraxthil linked arms
Magic, Lore
ac 13
STA 2 WIS 3 AGI 3 HP 10 MANA 10
RNG/ROG/SHM
ALL

Edited, Fri Mar 21 17:25:48 2003
RE: Got it!
# Mar 09 2003 at 4:12 AM Rating: Decent
Does the PH roam too? I've killed the 3 spawns in the NE corner some 10 times and still not seen him...
RE: Got it!
# Mar 01 2003 at 6:43 AM Rating: Default
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More info of where this Soothsayer pop plz ?
RE: Got it!
# Feb 28 2003 at 2:56 PM Rating: Default
Wondering if anyone has seen any charms drop outside of the LoY zones?
RE: Got it!
# Feb 28 2003 at 11:54 PM Rating: Default
I saw a charm drop in PON the other night
RE: Got it!
# Feb 28 2003 at 8:12 AM Rating: Default
Lokks like a definate addition to any Chanter's inventory to me

Edited, Fri Feb 28 07:40:38 2003
RE: Got it!
# Feb 28 2003 at 12:27 PM Rating: Default
Don't forget bards either, they would probably get some good use out of this item.
#Tiran, Posted: Feb 27 2003 at 7:40 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Charming!
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