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MAGIC ITEM LORE ITEM NO TRADE
Slot: LEGS
Charges: Unlimited
AC: 24
DEX: +17 STA: +10 INT: +23 AGI: +20 HP: +145 MANA: +150
SV FIRE: +5 SV DISEASE: +30 SV COLD: +5 SV MAGIC: +5 SV POISON: +30
Required level of 65.
Effect: Concussion (Any Slot/Can Equip, Casting Time: 2.0)
WT: 0.7 Size: MEDIUM
Class: WIZ
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type 7 (General: Group)
Slot 2, Type 21 (Special Ornamentation)
Item Type:Armor
Appearance:Velious Leather 2
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Color (RGB):0, 0, 0
Stackable:No
Lucy Entry By:Kerasota
Item Updated By:SwiftyMUSE
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IC Last Updated:2020-07-06 08:51:38
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Rarity: Common
Level to Attain: 65

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Still usefull...
# Jan 19 2013 at 7:21 PM Rating: Good
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These pants are once again useful in today's current game. The "must equip" requirement is gone and with the recent UI / hot button change, you can chain click these for great agro reduction.
The Debate
# Jun 29 2005 at 2:27 PM Rating: Default
Are these still the "most usefull pants for a wiz in EQ?" I say so. Some very interesting points on both side on graffe.

http://www.graffe.com/forums/showthread.php?t=32796
Effect
# Sep 03 2004 at 11:17 AM Rating: Decent
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Unless they've changed something, Concussion only lowers aggro by 300, not 400.

Ancient: Greater Concussion lowers aggro by 600.
RE: Effect
# Oct 28 2004 at 4:14 AM Rating: Decent
It has been 400 for ages, what is your source of information?
RE: Effect
# Nov 03 2004 at 2:57 AM Rating: Decent
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A wrong one evidentally because you're right it lowers by -400.
concussion
# Sep 01 2004 at 3:15 PM Rating: Decent
It has been proven that a concussion resist still lowers aggro, so resistances do not matter.

Using concussion in a battle is for starting at 99% with the tank.. assuming your mana pool can hold up until the mob is dead. Otherwise, you might as well start at 70% or so and just chain nook.
RE: concussion
# Jan 24 2006 at 5:14 PM Rating: Default
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well, if you think about it logically.. Every detrimental spell in the game will create aggro even on a resist (atleast it used to, before I retired), it would only make sense then that aggro is still uneffected by whether or not THIS spell actually took effect, a bug? maybe, but that's how it's coded. Should never of even been questioned imo

Edited, Tue Jan 24 16:24:34 2006
um, show me!
# Jun 24 2004 at 5:41 AM Rating: Decent
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I can tell you in Fierona Vie I've never seen a tank that could hold agro if you chain cast yer mana bar with Strike of soluesk back to back. Have you? Please post the magelo :D

Babdaben
Concussion
# May 27 2004 at 9:24 AM Rating: Decent
Dudes, I see a major difference when on Ikk raids, Time raids and even kiting grps in HoH or PoF. Without concussion , there is no way you can lay down the DPS that a wizard with concussion can. I would love to see the Chain nuking using SoS and not using concussion in BoT or anywhere and not get agro. You will pull agro and potentially die. Timing is important, but my DPS increases greatly with the use of concussion. I have SCS AA's but still get agro if I chain cast about 3 or 4 SoS without using concussion. I dont see how anyone who has played a wizard without it and then got it can honestly say they see no difference. BLAH!! Concussion is as important to me as my main nuke.
#REDACTED, Posted: Jun 17 2004 at 10:13 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) A wizard is 100% useless on raids without this spell.
RE: Concussion
# Jul 04 2004 at 10:26 AM Rating: Decent
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Depends on the encounter.
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RE: Concussion
# Jul 15 2004 at 7:48 PM Rating: Default
True some encounters like Warlord Gintolaken or however you spell his name in PoEB he is very ressistant so I dont even cast but when it comes to most situations Concussion is a very large help.
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# Mar 12 2004 at 6:54 PM Rating: Default
"Any wizard that doesnt have concussion by atleast level 60 is an idiot, or just plain lazy. "

actually, the case may be that due to faction issues, it is not possible for someone to acquire the spell. As a Dark Elf that hunted in KC, I unknowingly screwed my faction beyond repair. Around level 60 when I realized it was time to get this spell, it was too late. Another DE wizard in my guild had the same problem. So getting these pants was a godsend for both of us.
RE: ..
# Jun 06 2004 at 11:15 AM Rating: Decent
you can kill goblins in LOIO to up your faction, and do the quest in Firiona Vie as an evil character. i know people who have. you can also use illusion potions to help some.
Concussion
# Nov 12 2003 at 5:20 PM Rating: Decent
Any wizard that doesnt have concussion by atleast level 60 is an idiot, or just plain lazy. I always have concussion in my line up regardless of where I am. Now with LDoN it's even more critical because of the DPS needed, if you don't have concussion you cannot possibly maximize your DPS. In LDoN adventures I frequently pull agro from tanks dual weilding weapons such as SoD+BoC, without concussion I would be dead or the cleric would raun out of mana very quickly because I like to average 5k dmg per mob and thats simply not possible without concussion. Try droping SoS on a mob at 70% and then sitting...LOADING PLASE WAIT, then do the same thing except use concussion (maybe twice depending on tank) and notice the difference, sure you lose effenicy, but I'm talking about LDoN where DPS is much more important. In raids concussion simply allows you to do more damage in less time without fear of getting chewed up by a mob that eats through your epic in a single hit. Those of you that claim to chain nuke raid mobs are 1 either lying or 2 consider chain nuking to be a draught spell every 5 seconds. Sure I suppose that counts, but ask yourself "Who is being a more effective raid member, the wizard using a draught every few seconds or the wizard that is casting SoS with a concussion or 2 inbetween?" I know who I'd put my money on. Another point, concussion works regardless if it's resisted or not, those who use it know this. Concussion will not only get the mob off you, used wisely will keep the mob from ever attacking you in the first place. Any wizard can do decent damage without getting agro. A skilled wizard will go out of his way (stupid concussion quest) to maximize his effectiveness in any situation.

Ask yourself, "Do I want to be a skilled wizard, maximizing my effectivness?"

If yes, get concussion, use concussion, join the ranks of those that know WTF they are doing and are doing it well.

If no, stay mediocre, keep saying to yourself "It's the tanks fault, I know how to manage my agro". You may be a damn good wizard, but unless you use ALL resources available you will never maximize your potential.



Darret, 65 Wizard
Fennin Ro
225 Days played and counting
RE: Concussion
# Aug 16 2004 at 11:06 AM Rating: Default
In response to the above post, and to the below post about not knowing your class...


Concussion is vital. I agree.

Those that pull agro from the tank... snap happens ON OCCASION. However, if this is a common occurance, then by all means, the below problem is just that, a problem. However if there is no intent to pull a mob off the tank, and the person is using concusion, then yes... the person is doing thier job borderline well. Those who do it very well don't pull agro at all.


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RE: Concussion
# May 20 2004 at 10:51 PM Rating: Decent
Quote:
In LDoN adventures I frequently pull agro from tanks dual weilding weapons such as SoD+BoC


Well then you obviously dont know how to play your class if you cant control your aggro
Man...
# Oct 29 2003 at 9:50 PM Rating: Excellent
You people need to simmer down.

No, you don't NEED Concussion. I lasted fine until level 65 without it. But you spend a decent amount of time pacing your nukes to prevent aggro. All well and good if you have a small mana pool and run oom anyway.

Thing is, not everyone wants to sit around and not be doing DPS for the sake of aggro. In the time you're sitting waiting to time that next nuke, throw in a concussion or 2 or 3, and your DPS without getting summoned rises rapidly.

So no, you don't NEED Concussion. Is it useful to be able to do more DPS on high end boss mobs where the key isn't always a slow steady fight, but a well-paced burn? Hell yeah.

Edit: And for those of you who say all it does is refresh a spell gem, I'm afraid you're mistaken. Item clicks have zero refresh time. Every spell makes the spell gems dim out briefly afterwards. You can chain cast the legs faster than the normal spell. Anyone who says this effect sucks is horribly mistaken. They're the best silk effect of all of them. I'd rather be able to Concuss faster, than summon modrods, or cast single-target haste, or an obsolete DoT. It's a nice change from the pure shaft we got on Ornate Legs... Decession!?!?! I haven't used that spell since the ToV days =\

Edited, Mon Dec 1 21:53:35 2003
RE: Man...
# Nov 04 2003 at 3:42 PM Rating: Default
/agree

There is no "need" for concussion/greater concussion. If you don't have it, it will lower the amount of damage you dish out over the course of an elemental fight, but waiting until the proper time to chain nuke can be as effective as using concussion.

It also depends on how far your MT/MA is above everyone on the agro list. Agro is a points system. If you chain nuke to the top of the agro list you get summoned. Concussion can prevent this from happening, but is not necessary for survival, only necessary for maximum damage.
Umm Whaaa??
# Oct 01 2003 at 6:17 AM Rating: Default
One thing..you raid High end..you use concussion..plain and simple. You dont?..you die. Which is less dps for your guild.
You get aggro?.You take the chance of wiping the raid.
FYI not all mobs will summon you..some just turn to look at you..and AE wipe half the raid in one cast because you got aggro.
Its true, in some situations, a wizard can pull aggro from the MA.If you do your useless, your job is to nuke without getting attention and nuke hard..you cannot do this highend without concussion..even when resisted it is documented concussion STILL lessens your aggro.See Graffes I emplore you.
Most Wizards in my guild can Chain nuke SoS and never once get aggro over MA..you think this is luck?.Nope its concussion.
Simple if you're in Elementals and dont have Concussion up..you're wrong IMO, and a detrement to all who are with you.
And you're crazy to think that because you got aggro over your MA that you're MA sucks LOL..thats just silly..SSRA is to Elementals/Time as Orc1 is to SSRA..you're gonna be the most rezzed wizzy in VT my friend :P~(let alone Elementals).
And for the guy saying Bards dont get aggro hehehe welcome to a change in life bro..come sing a song in elementals and I bet you'll see Loading please wait..long before you get to that Second verse..even with Chorus of Marr.
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RE: Umm Whaaa??
# Oct 02 2003 at 9:23 AM Rating: Decent
/agree Gglak.

I have not yet met the tank (war, SK, or pally) that I could not get aggro from if I want.

If you are not using concussion, you are simply not doing the DPS you should be.

RE: Umm Whaaa??
# Oct 11 2003 at 10:40 AM Rating: Good
Yeah I agree for chain nuking SoS, but Draughts, no concussion needed. On Fennin Ro(where SoS is not possible), I began using Draught of Lightning(because I have magic nuke focus item) at 85% and didnt stop until he was dead. It did get resisted a few times, but the hat modifier is less than Lore spells so you can chain nuke away.

Now on to my main point. When concussion gets resisted, people like to say it reduces hate anyway... That is not true, what reduces your hate when you get a concussion resist is that while you were casting it, the time it took for your spell gem to come back up and the time it takes you to cast another spell more taunting, attacking, proccing from the MA is occuring, so of course the mob cares less about you, it is not the spell resist that did it directly, if that was true, it wouldnt be a resist.

Edited, Sat Oct 11 11:37:48 2003
RE: Umm Whaaa??
# Oct 14 2003 at 5:15 AM Rating: Default
Naaaaa, sorry...
Tests have been done by so many wizards, it's just plain silly to even have to bring it up any more... Besides the fact I have been using this spell since not too long after it was introduced and have seen way too many instances of the mob turning even though it was resisted...
Sure, if it was an isolated case here and there, I would tend to agree it was timing that caused the mob to turn. However, I have used the spell probably thousands of times maybe even more and I see multiple times a day where the mob has turned after resisting a concussion...
Anyone who says different needs to actually pay attention a little to the monitor when they play the game. Not to be confrontational, but it is rather obvious if you have used it extensively...
Concussion Has It's Place
# Jun 13 2003 at 11:46 AM Rating: Decent
It's situational and understand that. If you don't need it, don't use it. If the situation warrants, do so. In VT or other encounters, our wizzies occasionally get summoned, but they simply walk away and refresh their epic rune.

My wizzie has concussion and I'm VERY happy he does. I have a bard (Sony designed them to NOT get agro) and have to sing my dots when I'm botting my wizard so I can keep agro from him (wizzie 15 levels lower, bard is 65). I cast concussion after the first and third nuke... after that, agro has been established well enough that the mob never looks at the nuke-chaining wizzie over the bard's shoulder.

So... for me, in a duo-bot situation, concussion rocks. For our friends on raids, it means a waste of a spell slot. On 60+ level encounters, if you get agro more than once, all you need is a rez, not concussion.
RE: Concussion Has It's Place
# Jul 12 2003 at 11:27 AM Rating: Decent
Concusssion does have its place, and its mostly in end game EQ. An obvious example is Rallos Zek the Warlord. I always end up with mana left over because of the amount of DPS everyone is putting out on this mob, we have some of our clerics even nuke. This is where it becomes a matter of how much damage you can put out w/o pulling agro. With my focus effects, bard song and average crits mixed in I can float around 1k DPS. You better believe that I can pull agro off our tank w/ Blade of Carnage and Bloodfrenzy in a very short amount of time, even w/ SCS3. So, its all about managing your own agro.
A good tool
# May 05 2003 at 11:35 PM Rating: Good
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No you don't "need" this spell to be a good wizard or kill big mobs. Playing a 61 Wiz on Zeb server and my guild is in no way uber. Haven't taken on any of the big Luclin mobs and hardly any of the old world ones either, so granted, some of this will be speculation.

From my experience however all the guys posting that this spell isn't needed are correct. If you pull agro from the main tank while killing a raid type mob you nuked too soon, and besides I find consussion is resisted far too much on the higher end mobs I have gone up against (Yes yes, only Trak and Vindi but still. Agro works a lot the same way just at other proportions), even when debuffed.

To me concussion works best in the regular hunting grounds where mobs have lower resists. There you can make the difference between a group wiping or pushing through because you are capable of chain nuking with concussions thrown in to take down a mob very fast should your slower and/or mezer bite the dust early on. The low mana cost and fast cast time makes the spell very useful situationally, but not a must have. It is however nice to be able to have a tool of your own when fighting in pickup groups that you don't have 100% knowledge of how to work with. I quite oftenly end up having snare duty and concussion allows me to snare and flux early and then drop 2 agro reducers on the mob, knowing full well that when I sit down I have a pretty clean sheet and can start nuking at regular levels without drawing agro.

Well, just my opinions. I for one love the spell, but it is just a tool that works well if it fits your play style. And besides, the quest is not as hard as people make it out to be, you just need 1 or 2 friends for the CoM piece and the rest can be done solo with good planning.
RE: A good tool
# Oct 25 2003 at 2:58 PM Rating: Decent
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concussion reduces agro. Less agro means you can nuke more. Nuking more=more damage. Therefore, if you don't use concussion you're not maximizing your damage. I start nuking at 99% on most raids, concussions and nukes used together right means you do more damage than the guy who thinks "concussion isn't needed".

A wizard who doesn't use concussion is a wizard who doesn't want to do his best. There are fights in the game where you kill him before he kills you means you have to maximize DPS. Concussion IS needed to maximize DPS. I've fought with tanks with time gear that I can take agro off of without it so don't say I need a better tank. Time geared paly generates alot of agro, a wizard can generate more :).
#REDACTED, Posted: Apr 22 2003 at 12:03 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Ok for all of you that think all wizards "need" this spell your full of it! Ive raided just about ever place that can be raided on E'CI ive never once died b/c i pulled the aggro from the MT! if the MT gets slaughtered then thats a different problem, but if your MT cant keep the aggro especially in any of the planes then you need a new tank! Yeah i can pull the aggro off of just about anyone.....just know how to use your nukes and you never ever have to use this spell!
lore
# Mar 19 2003 at 3:09 PM Rating: Default
Leggings of Lore, yet the item is not Lore. That's cute.
RE: lore
# May 07 2003 at 1:00 AM Rating: Default
Errrr...you sure about that? Look again...
casting time
# Feb 20 2003 at 2:31 PM Rating: Decent
whats casting time on legs?
RE: casting time
# May 05 2003 at 2:46 AM Rating: Excellent
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Effect
# Jan 14 2003 at 5:09 PM Rating: Default
So just to clarify, The effect on this will make it easier for a Tank to taunt the mob off of you once you cast something like Icecomet on it? I've never seen this effect before so any info would help.
Thanks.

Edited, Tue Jan 14 16:42:33 2003
#REDACTED, Posted: Oct 06 2003 at 7:21 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Concussion sux, 2 cast time + 3 sec repop is too long, just get ac gear and full defensive aa and kill before it hits you twice.. like me! Now, if these babies have 2 or less cast time on them, then us wizzies got a helova break, but knowing our most loved developers, it is probably 5 cast time. But if not I would be one happy arcanist when I get these FULL MANA BURN ON BOSS WOOHOO! Something I havent done since 5 lvls and 130int ago. (to answer your response, yes, with or without concussion) BUT NE WAYZ this subject is retarded I dont know why im posting but I think the reason for all your posting is repressed anger at INT CASTER LEGS SUCKING, and us getting 200 variations of see invis and ultravision AND getting three WORTHLESS lvl 65 spells and 1 good one. Denile can be an ugly thing
RE: Effect
# Jan 15 2003 at 3:53 AM Rating: Decent
< 59 wizard here and i did the concussion quest wen i was 44.... only needed a lil help charmin the mob in CoM..... bard helped... was easy..... spell you recieve is nodrop, and yes it is very underused.... this spell doesnt help warrior taunt it off you, you de-taunt it yourself.... i must say that spell has definatly been my most used spell since i got it, dont wait for tank to taunt it off you, jus prevent mob from agroing in first place.... i have used this spell to chain cast ice comet from 90 percent health, casting concussion between each nuke..... i cant believe they made it a clicky effect =) i hope i can do this quest and free up one spell slot on raids and in groups =) wait lemme look at cast time.... reg spell is only 2 seconds.... can get it off between hits from slowed mob.....we'll see
RE: Effect
# Jan 14 2003 at 6:54 PM Rating: Good
It's actually a wizzie quest spell from Kunark era. It is a particularly complicated quest so I don't know a lot of wizzies who have it. Not that these leggings are easy to get either, but it effevtively knocks you down a few steps on the hate list. An excellent effect to add IMO, since it has been underutilized in the game.

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RE: Effect
# Feb 17 2003 at 11:22 PM Rating: Default
Any wizard without concussion is a joke in a high end raid.
RE: Effect
# Mar 14 2003 at 9:21 AM Rating: Decent
Why is that? Any tank that can't keep taunt off a wizard blasting all his/her mana is the joke. You are not going to have high end raiding if your warrior has a wurmy and definace. Basically once 95% is up it's time to keep mana bar and mob hp bar about the same, it should keep you safe. I've killed all the Velious mobs and many SoL with my guild and I don't have this yet, and I never die from a boss type.
RE: Effect
# Mar 19 2003 at 12:07 AM Rating: Default
You have to be kidding me...you're a lvl 50 newb or something. Do not reply to things you know nothing about...any wizard that doesn't have concussion up and is using it after every nuke in a high end raid needs to go back to Tormax quality guilds.
RE: Effect
# May 21 2003 at 9:16 AM Rating: Default
OMG ur so right we are gd n00bs I still dont have the spell at 65... but i dunno how i dont aggro after burning my (crappy) 4.5k mana on mobs help me plz

fear me crush i ll come concussion u!
RE: Effect
# May 05 2003 at 12:49 AM Rating: Default
Actually it depends on the quality of your guild. I'm currently a 62 wizard on Cazic Thule server and I don't have concussion. Therefore I've never used it. As well, I've never seen any of the 65th wizzies in my guild use it, on anything. We're finishing up luclin by hitting the Emperor of Ssra now. When we do our nuking, we can chain cast our spells and waste our entire bar of mana without drawing aggro. If we are fighting Arch Lich or Cursed, I can powernuke all of my 4k mana out and never even get aggro for a second.

If you are using Concussion after every spell, you are wasting mana. If you are in a guild where you have to use Concussion on a raid, then your guild either has crap strategies, or your tanks suck horribly. If you're in this position, I recommend telling your guild leader to work on beefing up your tanks, and figuring out how to manage aggro.
RE: Effect
# Dec 02 2003 at 1:09 PM Rating: Default
hahahahahahahahahahh *breath* hahahahahahahahaha

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