Immaculate Vest of the Fire Tyrant
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Planes of Power
What does this look like when worn by player
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Posted: Jan 19 2005 at 6:00 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) sarcasm This is for beastlords. Hands down. /sarcasm I'll just sit on my ssra tunic and wait for Timeless pattern to drop to finally upgrade it. 2.5 weight is a killer. My heaviest piece of gear is my shoulder slot from earth which weighs 2.0 but it is also my haste item so I figure until earing of corporeal essence starts getting to rot status I'll stick with that. Everyone has different play styles and focuses with their class. This is what gets taken into account in raid guilds that the average /random 6 666 player doesn't see. It's not about YOU, it's about your raid force improving as a whole to overcome new obstacles.
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This dropped tonight and a Druid got it.. A very happy druid. =p
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Posted: Aug 16 2004 at 3:10 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) OK kids...look closely at the wearbale classes listed on the tunic....can you see them? Good.
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Posted: Jan 07 2005 at 6:37 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) wow ... you sir are an butt cheek helmet.
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Posted: Nov 12 2004 at 10:18 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Kinda like this post???
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I have no idea how the high end game works.
I will never see one of these drop.
I just think it is funny to see people argue in a forum which class could better use an item.
The situation will be different EVERY TIME ONE OF THESE DROPS!!! There are so many variables to the equation (DKP, current armor, player skills and roles, etc.) that it is virtually impossible to list them all, much less analyze them all.
Yet here we have people coming to this message board arguing over what class this item should be awarded to.
ROFLMAO!!!!!!!
Oengus Awenydd
Storm Warden (I have my funny hat, my badge, and my flashlight!!)
Officer of the Spirit Guardians
Saryrn Server
I will never see one of these drop.
I just think it is funny to see people argue in a forum which class could better use an item.
The situation will be different EVERY TIME ONE OF THESE DROPS!!! There are so many variables to the equation (DKP, current armor, player skills and roles, etc.) that it is virtually impossible to list them all, much less analyze them all.
Yet here we have people coming to this message board arguing over what class this item should be awarded to.
ROFLMAO!!!!!!!
Oengus Awenydd
Storm Warden (I have my funny hat, my badge, and my flashlight!!)
Officer of the Spirit Guardians
Saryrn Server
Once a guild is in Time they end up just farming elements if you were to be in such a guild you wouldn't have to worry about not getting a drop like this, you'd just have to be patient and wait your turn
Be Very patient, my guild has only had two drop in all the kills of Fenin (about 12). We get so many of those bloody daggers they are starting to go to alts.
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This should go to anyone, period.
Think of it like this. A melee class (monk) is more adept and benefits more from melee stats/HP/ATK. A priest class (druid) is more adept and benefits more from priest stats/Mana(and yes HP)/Mana Pres. And heck, a hybrid (beast) would benefit from just about all the stats, both mana and HP, and both ATK/Focus on this item... But wait! Lets compare a monk's physical damage output to a beasts. Which would be able to put out more damage, and benefit MORE from the stats that it can use from this item... a monk would, hands down. A beast on the other hand, would gain a decent benefit from the ATK bonus, and a decent benefit from the focus... as well as the mana, HP and other stats. Just not as -much- of a benefit than the class that is more adept towards casting (druid), or fighting (monk).
Here is probably what the average monk would see in this item: (Of course, WIS could help in tradeskills and such, but I'm keeping this in terms of combat.)
AC: +45 Str: +25 Dex: +20 Sta: +20 Cold Resist: +30 Magic Resist: +30 HP: +150
Vengeance VII
Monks gain more HP per sta than beasts or druids, they mitigate more with the AC they have, they do more damage with the strength they hold, they hit more often (innate double attack/duel wield) and can gain more benefit from dex in terms of procs, and overall mitigate/evade more to make good use of the +HP.
What a druid would see in this item...
AC: +45 Sta: +20 Cha: +10 Wis: +25 Cold Resist: +30 Magic Resist: +30 HP: +150 Mana: +150
Druids gain least benefit from Sta of all three classes, and the least mitigation from their AC, they are however the only class who can make use of charisma in terms of combat, and they would gain the most mana per wisdom. In a raid/group situation, whose manapool would you value more? A beastlords, or a druids... sure a single 150 mana slow from a beast could save thousands of mana for several toon, but in a well rounded raid the beast will not end up being the main slower. Also, the ATK would be useless in most cases, but the preservation would be very useful, especially for someone who has something better than the elemental druid boots, often mana preservation is not something you'd want to give up for anything.
Beastlord's benefit...
AC: +45 Str: +25 Dex: +20 Sta: +20 Wis: +25 Cold Resist: +30 Magic Resist: +30 HP: +150 Mana: +150
Everything but charisma would be a benefit. Beasts won't gain as much benefit from the AC as monks, but more than a druid would. They don't have that innate double attack, which tones the benefit from strength, dex and the ATK down a bit. Sta/wis/hp/mana... all of this benefits us to an average level. We cannot make as good use of our mana (or better put... we do not need as high of a mana pool) as the druid class, and we cannot make as good use of our HP as monks, nor is our max HP put to the test as often in raid situations. Manapres is a very large benefit, too, for a class that often has no time to med and depends on spell mana regens.
Okay, to shorten all that... basically monks gain more benefit from the stats that influence their class, druids would gain more benefit from whatever stats/effects influenced their class, and beasts gained an average benefit from both sides of the story, thus they are hybrids.
Rather late when I made this, so it is of course possible that I made mistakes. Please by all means correct anything you see fit, just remember that if you flame, no one will care what point you try to get across, so it makes it pointless to flame =P(Adding this because a lot of what I said is arguable, keep in mind most of it is opinion :] yes people have diffrent opinions!). But, this is my logic, and its how all items (How I think all items...) in EQ should be dealt with, my main is a beastlord, n' you can imagine all the fights there are with monk/beast weapons and arguments on which they should go to! Anyhow, 'night.
Think of it like this. A melee class (monk) is more adept and benefits more from melee stats/HP/ATK. A priest class (druid) is more adept and benefits more from priest stats/Mana(and yes HP)/Mana Pres. And heck, a hybrid (beast) would benefit from just about all the stats, both mana and HP, and both ATK/Focus on this item... But wait! Lets compare a monk's physical damage output to a beasts. Which would be able to put out more damage, and benefit MORE from the stats that it can use from this item... a monk would, hands down. A beast on the other hand, would gain a decent benefit from the ATK bonus, and a decent benefit from the focus... as well as the mana, HP and other stats. Just not as -much- of a benefit than the class that is more adept towards casting (druid), or fighting (monk).
Here is probably what the average monk would see in this item: (Of course, WIS could help in tradeskills and such, but I'm keeping this in terms of combat.)
AC: +45 Str: +25 Dex: +20 Sta: +20 Cold Resist: +30 Magic Resist: +30 HP: +150
Vengeance VII
Monks gain more HP per sta than beasts or druids, they mitigate more with the AC they have, they do more damage with the strength they hold, they hit more often (innate double attack/duel wield) and can gain more benefit from dex in terms of procs, and overall mitigate/evade more to make good use of the +HP.
What a druid would see in this item...
AC: +45 Sta: +20 Cha: +10 Wis: +25 Cold Resist: +30 Magic Resist: +30 HP: +150 Mana: +150
Druids gain least benefit from Sta of all three classes, and the least mitigation from their AC, they are however the only class who can make use of charisma in terms of combat, and they would gain the most mana per wisdom. In a raid/group situation, whose manapool would you value more? A beastlords, or a druids... sure a single 150 mana slow from a beast could save thousands of mana for several toon, but in a well rounded raid the beast will not end up being the main slower. Also, the ATK would be useless in most cases, but the preservation would be very useful, especially for someone who has something better than the elemental druid boots, often mana preservation is not something you'd want to give up for anything.
Beastlord's benefit...
AC: +45 Str: +25 Dex: +20 Sta: +20 Wis: +25 Cold Resist: +30 Magic Resist: +30 HP: +150 Mana: +150
Everything but charisma would be a benefit. Beasts won't gain as much benefit from the AC as monks, but more than a druid would. They don't have that innate double attack, which tones the benefit from strength, dex and the ATK down a bit. Sta/wis/hp/mana... all of this benefits us to an average level. We cannot make as good use of our mana (or better put... we do not need as high of a mana pool) as the druid class, and we cannot make as good use of our HP as monks, nor is our max HP put to the test as often in raid situations. Manapres is a very large benefit, too, for a class that often has no time to med and depends on spell mana regens.
Okay, to shorten all that... basically monks gain more benefit from the stats that influence their class, druids would gain more benefit from whatever stats/effects influenced their class, and beasts gained an average benefit from both sides of the story, thus they are hybrids.
Rather late when I made this, so it is of course possible that I made mistakes. Please by all means correct anything you see fit, just remember that if you flame, no one will care what point you try to get across, so it makes it pointless to flame =P(Adding this because a lot of what I said is arguable, keep in mind most of it is opinion :] yes people have diffrent opinions!). But, this is my logic, and its how all items (How I think all items...) in EQ should be dealt with, my main is a beastlord, n' you can imagine all the fights there are with monk/beast weapons and arguments on which they should go to! Anyhow, 'night.
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Posted: Jun 01 2004 at 12:38 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) You obviously aren't part of a raid guild. BSTs aren't main slowers but they are ghetto slowers esp when puller pulls trains of unmezzable mobs and you need every slower to get slows on all targets ASAP.
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If you look, he pointed out that in a well-rounded raid, a Beastlord would not be main slower.
Maybe we should read before we flame, hm?
Maybe we should read before we flame, hm?
Ty Leyna for a well reasoned (if late night) evaluation of this tunic. Don't forget the uber druid melee skills though with that +35 attack though lol.
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Posted: Apr 30 2004 at 12:35 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) this is for beastlords hands down.
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DKP or not. This tunic should always be melee preference when rolling. Yes. It has a focus effect, but one that can be found on the Druid Elemental Boots. Druids don't need Vengeance or a tunic with melee stats.
There are *FOUR* items in the game with Vengeance 7 and this is the ONLY ONE that can be used by Monks and Beastlords. Allowing Druids to roll on this if a Monk/Beast needs it is a waste of gear.
/rant off
There are *FOUR* items in the game with Vengeance 7 and this is the ONLY ONE that can be used by Monks and Beastlords. Allowing Druids to roll on this if a Monk/Beast needs it is a waste of gear.
/rant off
These posts make me laugh, if you say that a class cant bid on a item even though they have more DKP you TOTALLY defeat the purpose of DKP, like when a chanter couldnt bid on wristband of secrets, in the end the officers admitted they were wrong (this is on a pvp server it happened).
Wether or not a druid can make best use of it, if they have the most DKP and bid on it and win, gratz.
Wether or not a druid can make best use of it, if they have the most DKP and bid on it and win, gratz.
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Posted: May 10 2004 at 5:07 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Any guild leader who is going to allow druids bid on this over a melee ought to take a good long look at his guildmanagement tool and then just /guilddelete to save any more embarassment.
guilds dropping this item are not "rolling" or items, and they usually don't put any class restrictions but on very few items (BoWs war only for example).
And at this level of the game most melees have their worn atk maxed or nearly maxed and don't need V7 anyway
And at this level of the game most melees have their worn atk maxed or nearly maxed and don't need V7 anyway
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Bah who are you kidding. I know lots of melees that are time enabled that have yet to max out their worn attack.
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Posted: Apr 04 2004 at 4:22 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Edited, Sun Apr 4 17:21:40 2004
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Posted: May 12 2003 at 6:09 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) SGlanton you idiot elemental armor does not drop, its player made and you have to have 250 in those required skill fields
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sorry but you are wrong elemental armor is not player made. you need to get molds that drops of different named/gods then do the quest to get the containers were you combine player made silk/chain/plate/leather pices with the elemental mold. just like velius but with out having to do the turn in. so before you call somebody a idiot check you facts please.
Not to make you look like a fool or anything, but.... From the item listing for Trydan's Chestplate of Nobility. You Paladins out there will recognize it as your ELEMENTAL brestplate. Key words are in bold.
Crafted: This item is crafted by players.
Trydan's Chestplate of Nobility (Non-Tradeskill, 0 trivial)
You were BOTH right. It's a little from Column A, and a little from Column B.
Crafted: This item is crafted by players.
Trydan's Chestplate of Nobility (Non-Tradeskill, 0 trivial)
You were BOTH right. It's a little from Column A, and a little from Column B.
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Well it's "crafted" because you have to click "combine" in a container to have it, but it's a no-fail combine, no trade skill check, and need to combine dropped stuff...
Correct, the elemental armor sets (which sort of include the timeless BPs from PoTime) are not crafted. Nofail combines are just NPC-less quests, not true trade skills (there is no skill that the combine is checked against, trade or otherwise).
This BP is dropped, and could be considered to be the "real" elemental BP, since it's the BP you get in the elemental plains. The one that you get the mold for in PoTime is just a nice upgrade, but otherwise has about the same net effects in a more class-specific way.
It's all player terminology for what the code does. The real terminology is what the developers use. If they call this the "Velios quest BP version 2.1", then that's what it is, even though it a) doesn't come from Velios, b) isn't quested and c) Wookies don't live on Endor.
This BP is dropped, and could be considered to be the "real" elemental BP, since it's the BP you get in the elemental plains. The one that you get the mold for in PoTime is just a nice upgrade, but otherwise has about the same net effects in a more class-specific way.
It's all player terminology for what the code does. The real terminology is what the developers use. If they call this the "Velios quest BP version 2.1", then that's what it is, even though it a) doesn't come from Velios, b) isn't quested and c) Wookies don't live on Endor.
they require tradeskills to make the materials, my guess is they did it this way to prevent mwing of elemental armors /shrug, could be wrong
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Except that to do the nofail combine you must have a craftsman make the appropriate material out of bricks or ether.
Therefore, it is a crafted item.
Therefore, it is a crafted item.
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Posted: Jun 17 2003 at 8:35 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) ah hah hah hah, someone got told muhahahaha, good job lucresia! :)
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My druid won it on a points system, that many monks and beastlords were ahead of me on but were holding out for Time Tunics so passed on their chances to bid....until a couple weeks later they saw their Time BP stats and realized they should have bid on this tunic. I looked at the stats for Plane of Time druid tunic ahead of time and in my opinion this one is better. I mean swarming death is the effect on the BP for druids in Time and thats gay! a clickable dot...yippeee! for PoTime it should be a hella lot more than that. The Mana/HP is only 25 more! SO would you rather have 25 more mana and hp over the highest mana preservation in the game and vengeance 7 (a super fun bonus for us druids)??? Sure theres more Wis on the Time tunic(only 5 more Wis!!) but by L65 Wis is usually been long since maxed out. The AC on Times Tunic and Fens Tunic is the same too! Its absolutely nuts. Both tier 5 tunics for a druid and yet the Time one isn't beyond the Fen one in any drastic way?? Then you have to take into consideration whether or not your guild will even make it to Time and defeat Air, Water, and Earth Gods. Peeps that have higher points than me that didn't bid now regret it because they wondering if they even gonna get a shot now at a Time Tunic and they have all since looked at the stats and compared and have come to the same conclusions I have. I am glad I bid on Fen's and won cuz Times Druid Tunic is slightly depressing after seeing Fen's and knowing how much it takes to even get to Time. Maybe Verant will up the mana to 200 or change the effect to make it a more honorable piece of Time gear for the druids. I was hella happy with the last patch when they upgraded some monk armor causing 20 dex to be added to the Fen tunic! TY monks for getting us druids 20 more Dex! I agree Beastlords best off for tunic if you have to pick a class but not a crap load of Beastlords on my server and man this tunic is druid upgrade, fun, and sexy graphics too!
The links you found were fished before they were acually found. It is 185hp and 200 mana
Edited, Thu Oct 30 20:16:56 2003
Edited, Thu Oct 30 20:16:56 2003
I'd have to disagree about druid time tunic.. A good manaless clicky dot like swarming death is great if you know how to use it.
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Posted: Apr 11 2003 at 3:26 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) does it really matter.. does anyone really care.. I didn't think so
Now has Vengeance VII
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Posted: Mar 14 2003 at 6:32 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Yes i would have to agree ,definitley a BST tunic because of the preservation effect along with +20 atk to go hand in hand with bst casting and bst melee. Dru and Mnk at this point of highend game should have equal or better gear suitable for their class. Vengeance would mean nothing to the dru and preservation nothing to monk so BST is perfect for this tunic.
Other than the Elemental leather tunic that has yet to drop anywhere, please tell me what tunic is equal/comparable for druids/monks?
Yeah.. didnt think so.
My guild will probably have all druids/monks/beastlords in this vest before we even see PoTime
Yeah.. didnt think so.
My guild will probably have all druids/monks/beastlords in this vest before we even see PoTime
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No you won't. It's a very rare drop. Unless your guild can keep Fennin permakilled, you will probably only get 4 - 5 of these in your guild by the time you beat Quarm.
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Posted: Mar 08 2003 at 9:02 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) "Its the best obtainable BP for a BST -- Monks and druids both should have better or equal by the time you get this."
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Posted: Feb 11 2003 at 1:30 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Droped this mob on Sat 8 Feb on Luclin in Endorean tunic went to a druid we use the dkp system so all is fair and good but yes being a 65 bst i agree this is top end tunic and is way better effect wise then r elemental BP
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Posted: Jan 19 2003 at 10:40 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) ok, i can see why some people would think a druid would need it because the wisdom and stuff, and how a Beast can benifit from the two effects. but i would rather see a monk with 45 ac than Dru/bst. who pulls on most raids? usually monks. when a monk decides to go FD he is usually getting hit or about to get hit. more ac, less they are hit for. more chance you get your pull for your raid. sure Sk's can pull. but having played an SK and a monk i would rather have the monk pull. less "recast" time if FD doesnt work. anyways monk should get this item because the guild who kills this guy prolly has a monk who does more for the guild than any beastlord or druid. i have played all these 3 classes and if i were to give it to any of them i would chose monk because this is the best AC they can get and some extra attack can do them some good.
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Posted: Jan 22 2003 at 3:49 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Monk Elemental BP is far superior to this, right click Avatar, Bst would get this first, Dru might want it but their Elemental BP is nice also. Bst get the shaft on their Elemental BP (right click +5 mana buff).
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Posted: Feb 05 2003 at 8:51 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) dude druids cant even wear this...
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Whoever deserves it most amongst those who kill it, as decided by that guilds loot system, be it awarded by the leader or a points system or whatever. Many many people of any of the three classes that can use it would gladly take it, regardless of whether all of the stats are neccesarily relevant to their class. Obviously, it was designed to be of some appeal to all three classes.
If you are hung up on what CLASS should get this as opposed to what individual character... well then I doubt you see a lot of stuff like this outside of drool fests on Allahkhazams.
Edited, Mon Jan 13 14:37:34 2003
If you are hung up on what CLASS should get this as opposed to what individual character... well then I doubt you see a lot of stuff like this outside of drool fests on Allahkhazams.
Edited, Mon Jan 13 14:37:34 2003
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My guild awards loot based on who gets the kill shot, so in this case it would most likely be won by a wizard or mage, since they seem to win most. It's sad how often items end up being awarded to classes that can't use them, but in the end I think it's the best system. It's nice to get to loot everything that drops too! I got two pair of Seru pants and a new horse all from one kill shot. Best piece I ever got for a twink! Just destroyed the head didn't want to bother with the quest. Your right though, it doesn't matter really as long as everyone agrees and you have some guildlines.
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*snicker* Very nice.
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Your guild gives loot based on the kill shot?
Umm what about the clerics who heal all the time, or the druids that heal or the shamans that heal?
Wow all your guilds wizzies/mages/rangers/rogues must have some really sweet loots.
Umm what about the clerics who heal all the time, or the druids that heal or the shamans that heal?
Wow all your guilds wizzies/mages/rangers/rogues must have some really sweet loots.
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I agree. if you have more then one person wanting it should go on a roll, or a point system... when u say you could use it just because you have played the char, and you know whut it is like, maybe u should trying building a char of the other that the gear is made for.. walk in someone elses shoes... Be fair about it... dunt just go off like little children begging for the gear because of adds... its a dang game, we are here for fun!
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Posted: Jan 11 2003 at 6:38 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) should this ever see a monks hands!. only after every druid orbeast has this or better, would i ever! give this to a monk. monks will vitch and beg for this, considering their current avalible BP's, just tellem to shutit! they already claim a must have for every peice of gear thats got Monk tagged on it.. they Dont!
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Personally wouldnt you want the guy who pulls you the mobs you want to kill able to actually make it back to the camp and 45ac will sure help them to not get beat to hell on the run back. Sure its got great stats for all the classes listed so the way I see it is seeing the guild who actually get to fight these mobs use a point system to determine who gets the loot this is an item that should be put up available to all the listed classes who have the points and if at this point there is more then 1 person who wants it they random and winner spends his points . Its fair that way and ******** is kept to a minimum. But to say a monk shoud only get this if the beasts and druids have this or better before a monk gets it is just ridiculous.
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For the folks that can hunt these mobs, this gear is incremental -- not a make or break difference. This might be an improvement for them (won't be for all), but I would be surprised as hell if it's a major upgrade. They might bump up their ac by 5, or resists by 10, etc., but nothing that's going to make a huge change in how they play and what they can survive. It all adds up, but one piece of gear won't change the balance that much.
In the end, there are benefits to all the classes that this BP is available to. Whatever loot system the guild that drops this agrees upon is the right way. The guilds that raid this stuff decided long ago how they want to handle loot. If you want, debate it in your guild forums. There's no point to arguing who should get it here -- no one will make a decision from these debates.
Personally, I hope to see discussions about the strategies and tactics used on mobs in these threads.
In the end, there are benefits to all the classes that this BP is available to. Whatever loot system the guild that drops this agrees upon is the right way. The guilds that raid this stuff decided long ago how they want to handle loot. If you want, debate it in your guild forums. There's no point to arguing who should get it here -- no one will make a decision from these debates.
Personally, I hope to see discussions about the strategies and tactics used on mobs in these threads.
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Another reason why this should go to a BST... take a look at BST useable tunics... or here I will give the top 5 to you:
1. Immaculate Vest of the Fire Tyrant
2. Lunar Fungus Covered Tunic (VT)
3. Wistful Tunic of the Void (Ssra)
4. Ancient Burrower Hide Tunic (Deep)
5. Tunic of the Khati Sha (Tier 3 Crafted)
Its the best obtainable BP for a BST -- Monks and druids both should have better or equal by the time you get this.
1. Immaculate Vest of the Fire Tyrant
2. Lunar Fungus Covered Tunic (VT)
3. Wistful Tunic of the Void (Ssra)
4. Ancient Burrower Hide Tunic (Deep)
5. Tunic of the Khati Sha (Tier 3 Crafted)
Its the best obtainable BP for a BST -- Monks and druids both should have better or equal by the time you get this.
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kindly list the top 5 chest items for monks and druids then please.
For a druid, I'd probably make the ranking like this:
1) Mail of Judgement
2) Kerasha's Sylvan Tunic
3) Immaculate Vest of the Fire Tyrant
4) Tunic of the Disciple
5) Wistful Tunic of the Void
Absolutely amazing for druids, and the chances that a druid would have 1 or 2 when this tunic drops on off a Fennin Ro are not that great. Any of the 3 listed classes would probably make awesome use of it.
Edited, Thu Jan 16 22:34:21 2003
1) Mail of Judgement
2) Kerasha's Sylvan Tunic
3) Immaculate Vest of the Fire Tyrant
4) Tunic of the Disciple
5) Wistful Tunic of the Void
Absolutely amazing for druids, and the chances that a druid would have 1 or 2 when this tunic drops on off a Fennin Ro are not that great. Any of the 3 listed classes would probably make awesome use of it.
Edited, Thu Jan 16 22:34:21 2003
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Mail of Judgement = less hp and mana than the Fen tunic. The only thing of any value to a druid on it is the FT7...which is usually maxed out for druids by the time you get to Fen RO, or at least should be. The limit on FT is 15. Soo Mail of Judgement isn't above the Fen Tunic for a Druid. Kerasha's = only 50 more mana and 35 more hp and has a gay worthless effect. It doesn't have the highest mana preservation in the game like the Fen Tunic, which all druid's want in some way, and it's one the hardest effects to attain. FT isn't unattainable for anyone. Heck the Kerasha's leather bracers have plenty of FT if you have none by the time you get to PoF. If you think 50 more mana is worth making the Kerasha's above the Fen Ro tunic then I'd suggest making up the 50 mana on another armor slot than not bidding on the Fen tunic if you have the chance. Highest Mana pres in game is invaluable to any casters class and in the Fen Ro tunic situation the caster classes that would most benefit from this paticular effect are Druids...hands down. Druids are practically primary healers, aside from debuffing, and buffing on all PoP raids. Mana pres rules for us ....and FOR YOU :)
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45 ac is alot for a monk i don't care how uber he is. As far as allakazams is concerned this is one of the top ac chest pieces a monk could get.
IN MY HUMBLE OPINION
(wich i sure will get thrashed by some goober with nothing better to do)
a monk would put this piece to more use than a BL in a raid situation where you'll have to have several monks working to pull single mobs i personally hate waiting for the monk to get pulled and resed
i'll be cheering for the monks to win the roll on this drop
this is why
Druids top end gear (acording to alla's)
mail of judgement 65 ac and FT 7
Anchient Borrower hide tunic 50 ac FT 5
Prime healer's Bulwark 45 ac (effect of something or other)
Immaculate vest of fire tyrent (look up for stats)
Beastlords
Anchient borrower hide tunic 50 ac FT 5
Prime healers Bulwark 45 ac
Immaculate vest fo fire tyrent 45 ac
Monk
ton po's chestwraps of composure 45 ac
prime healers bulwark again 45 ac
immaculate thingy of stuff 45 ac
this is the most ac a monk will see according to alla's if there is something out thats better than this it's not showing up on the search
mental note: ac is god
Edited, Sat Jan 11 18:34:29 2003
IN MY HUMBLE OPINION
(wich i sure will get thrashed by some goober with nothing better to do)
a monk would put this piece to more use than a BL in a raid situation where you'll have to have several monks working to pull single mobs i personally hate waiting for the monk to get pulled and resed
i'll be cheering for the monks to win the roll on this drop
this is why
Druids top end gear (acording to alla's)
mail of judgement 65 ac and FT 7
Anchient Borrower hide tunic 50 ac FT 5
Prime healer's Bulwark 45 ac (effect of something or other)
Immaculate vest of fire tyrent (look up for stats)
Beastlords
Anchient borrower hide tunic 50 ac FT 5
Prime healers Bulwark 45 ac
Immaculate vest fo fire tyrent 45 ac
Monk
ton po's chestwraps of composure 45 ac
prime healers bulwark again 45 ac
immaculate thingy of stuff 45 ac
this is the most ac a monk will see according to alla's if there is something out thats better than this it's not showing up on the search
mental note: ac is god
Edited, Sat Jan 11 18:34:29 2003
You obviously have no clue what you're talking about.
HP/mana/useful effects(ft, vengeance, focus effects) > all, AC gets quite useless once you've hit high enough numbers.
Prime healers bulwark was a GM even item.
HP/mana/useful effects(ft, vengeance, focus effects) > all, AC gets quite useless once you've hit high enough numbers.
Prime healers bulwark was a GM even item.
16 posts
you know your right the 150 hps and 20 sta would help the monk get back to camp
thanks
thanks
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Posted: Feb 12 2003 at 11:31 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Either way, I'd say it's made more for a beastlord than anything else. Monks don't use mana, and I'll be nuts if I ever see a meleeing druid.
3 posts
This tunic went too a druid. Nice too see some good items out their for druids now with decent melee stats while still having the nessicary caster stats.
Gratz Solander of TR on this tunic!
Swiftadan Fathawulf
Druid of the 57th circle.
Sinister Nation
The Nameless
Gratz Solander of TR on this tunic!
Swiftadan Fathawulf
Druid of the 57th circle.
Sinister Nation
The Nameless
I would like this for my druid prolly wouldnt take it from a bl in my guild since its better for them, but the vengence would be a great addition to my vadynn hammer and shroud of the dar brood, not to mention mana preservation IV ... /drule off
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Posted: Jan 10 2003 at 7:49 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I would say this would go to beastlord before a monk. If no beast lord then druid, then monk. Just my thoughts. :)
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