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Blade of War  

Lore Item No Trade Placeable
Skill: 2H Slashing Atk Delay: 32
DMG: 48 Dmg Bonus: 117 AC: 50
This item is placeable in yards, guild yards, houses and guild halls.
STR: +30 STA: +30 WIS: +15 INT: +15 AGI: +30 HP: +175 MANA: +175 ENDUR: +175
Recommended level of 61.
Effect: Enraging Blow (Combat, Casting Time: Instant)
WT: 5.5 Size: LARGE
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type 4 (Weapon: General)
Slot 2, Type 20 (Ornamentation)

Item Type:2H Slashing
Submitted By:Fires of Heaven
Lucy Entry By:Kerasota
Item Updated By:SwiftyMUSE
IC Last Updated:2022-01-14 02:00:08
Page Updated:Thu Oct 9th, 2008

*This item is the result of a raid event.
Expansion: Planes of Power Planes of Power

Rarity: Rare
Level to Attain: 65

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Drunder, Fortress of Zek (Plane of Tactics)
NPC Name
Rallos Zek the Warlord
The Fabled Warlord, Rallos Zek

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Drunder, Fortress of Zek (Plane of Tactics)

Uploaded November 27th, 2008
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Mains are dead
# Aug 04 2006 at 8:54 PM Rating: Default
Wars sell for 1k U.S. on ebay. Any raid leader will make sure one of his guildie alts get this for pocket change, ebay ftw.
Mains are dead
# Aug 05 2006 at 1:55 AM Rating: Decent
1,087 posts
Who would be dumb enough to pay $1,000 for a warrior?
1k platinum sure. but cash?
Pain Mistress Okami L`Assundre of Tarew Marr
Dark Elf Shadow Knight
Drinal (Tarew)
Retired after 500 days /played
Retired again
Mains are dead
# Apr 07 2016 at 8:39 PM Rating: Decent
93 posts
Ahh, what?

Back when I sold out in 2004, I got a pretty chunk of change / trades for my account. I had two so it didn't really matter to me. Bloodfrenzy + Shield of Strife, Taunt Boots, etc. Was pretty much fully time geared / main tank.

Just my 2cp on this, I know the thread/post is old.
# Feb 11 2006 at 9:01 AM Rating: Decent
97 posts
if there is a warrior and a ranger in the raid, and this weapon is an upgrade for both of them, should go to the warrior.. if you rangers dont like it, delete you rangers and make a warrior. plain and simple.
drop rate
# Dec 16 2005 at 11:03 PM Rating: Decent
What's the drop rate on this?
RE: drop rate
# May 03 2006 at 8:07 AM Rating: Decent
24 posts
not very great.....i dont think anyone would farm this mob because he aint to be messed of 30 or so can take him out but the scrpit is kinda annoying and he spawns tons of adds that with one mistake will wipe a whole raid...backflagging and such my guild tookm him out 4 Blade of war.....warriors were pissed.....we just packed the endtrails of our fallen comrades andmoved out to solro.....
Ranger tanking and soloing
# May 01 2005 at 6:20 PM Rating: Decent
Your arguing over whether aranger should roll for this because of the proc? Well Rangers sometimes have to tank and rooted mobs have a damage penalty so rangers have to melee when soloing. I would roll on this not for the proc but because their are so few ranger equipable 2handers that have the AC and hitpoints this thing has. You plate classes take for granted all the AC and hitpoints you get. Try soling with chainmail then medding, burning all your mana on roots that won't stick so you can't heal yourself.
RE: Ranger tanking and soloing
# Dec 21 2005 at 2:12 PM Rating: Decent
Hello all,
Talking about chainmail classes needing AC for tanking and then rooting,healing,then medding. I have 70 Shammy with no raid gear and has 8.5k buffed along with 1.5k AC. I never run out of mana and can take a serious beating and I am a caster. So please, weapons like this belong to Armor wearing,weapon weilding, mob slaying players. Since Tanks take the beating they should always get this. My point, I am a Sham, and I root then dot. Rangers root, arrow, arrow, arrow. See same concept, don't get hit. I am saying this because I am a pround owner of a 66 warrior. Warriors get nothing but a few Disc's so they need all they can. Warriors truly can take a beating so give it to them. Sorry if I offended anyone.
RE: Ranger tanking and soloing
# Jun 02 2005 at 2:51 PM Rating: Decent
"You plate classes take for granted all the AC and hitpoints you get. Try soling with chainmail then medding, burning all your mana on roots that won't stick so you can't heal yourself."\

Yes, because at this level of progression warriors can solo. /sarcasm.

Sure, a Pally / SK / Ranger / Berserker Can Loot, but its not exactly for a great reason.

Paladins / Shadow Knights get spells for aggro.

Rangers also have spells for aggro, although weaker. Plus, getting this weapon for hypothetical situations isn't exactly smart usage of raid points.

Berserkers ... Well, c'mon .. nobody plays a Berserker.

Warriors: Warriors rely on their weapons for Aggro. And who do you see tanking 90% of your raids?

In short: Yes, every listed class has some form of *use* for a BoW, but avoid going after them before warriors. (In most situations).

RE: Ranger tanking and soloing
# Feb 19 2006 at 2:19 PM Rating: Decent
... dude .. Warriors get discs for aggro. They dont need this. Dont say why the other characters shouldn't loot while leaving out warriors. They have alot of discs solely for getting aggro.
RE: Ranger tanking and soloing
# Feb 19 2006 at 2:34 PM Rating: Decent
1,087 posts
ya, they have discs, but still rely heavily on weapon procs to help.
This was put in before they got their agro upgrades, and so needed it that much more.
Even with discs though, they still need good agro procs, because some other idiot decided they needed it, and use it on the raid while a main tank is trying to hold the mob.
Pain Mistress Okami L`Assundre of Tarew Marr
Dark Elf Shadow Knight
Drinal (Tarew)
Retired after 500 days /played
Retired again
RE: Ranger tanking and soloing
# Oct 12 2005 at 1:57 AM Rating: Decent
If you raid leader lets you win this over a tank, your guild needs another. Sure you may tank sometimes but even then nothing really hard you dont have the disc for it. At least long term disc for tanking gods.

As for 50 ac being more use to you than a warrior, HAHA. You can never have too much AC and warriors actually get a bonus so it gives them more ac than 50. These days 2000 ac tanks are in great need. Ranger tanks are more of a joke. If you are in fact a ranger with 10k plus hp and 1800 or more ac your well progressed beyond needing this heh.
RE: Ranger tanking and soloing
# Aug 08 2005 at 9:20 PM Rating: Decent
have to agree, my main is a warrior not exactly THE TANK but at 51 i have 3.5k hp no buffs that a start atm, but i TOTALLY agree in most situtations unless it was going to rot a raid leader should give it to a warrior only to benefit them i nthe long run unless its a totaly open raid even though it has no required lvl im sure at lvl 51 i wont get this even though i am tatics flagged and tried a open RZtW raid.... haha you can guess what happened.. WIPE of course never again will i go on a open RZ raid its hopeless : D
RE: Ranger tanking and soloing
# Aug 21 2005 at 8:53 PM Rating: Decent
My main is a Ranger and I have been forced to tank on many, many occasions. Not because I can, but because I have to when the MT has fallen. There have been many times that I have tanked mobs better than the plate class tanks we had in the group. In my opinion if a ranger gets this weapon and has use for it the so be it. If they get beat out by a Plate class, so be it. They wouldn't put all those classes as classes able to use this weapon if they just wanted Warriors to have it.

Thanks and good hunting.

RE: Ranger tanking and soloing
# Feb 11 2006 at 9:13 AM Rating: Default
97 posts
They wouldn't put all those classes as classes able to use this weapon if they just wanted Warriors to have it.

yes they would. and they did. rangers dont tank, thats why when they die, people arent surprised. warriors need aggro, and a ranger with an aggro causing weapon is a dead ranger. now i dont want to hear anymore *********
RE: Ranger tanking and soloing
# Oct 30 2005 at 4:13 PM Rating: Default
If the makers of EQ wanted rangers to tank they wouldn't die so easily. And yes IMO if there's a warrior there that can acually use this it should go to them since no one else needs the aggro proc. Oh yeah... and since when do rangers use 2h weapons? I've NEVER seen a ranger that's in a decent guild use a 2h weapon. I'm a paladin so don't say bull like "Your just saying that because your a warrior" cause I'm not, I play a paladin and paladins don't need aggro procs to keep aggro and neither do sks and let's face it when you have multiple warriors, paladins, shadow knights, and rangers on raid... who is gonna make ST (second tank) a ranger? if your a ranger with more hp and ac than all warriors, paladins, and sks in your guild except 1 warrior you really need to be in a better guild...
RE: Ranger tanking and soloing
# Dec 07 2005 at 12:34 AM Rating: Default
if your a ranger with more hp and ac than all warriors, paladins, and sks in your guild except 1 warrior you really need to be in a better guild

needs to be in a better guild, and the sk/paladin should be tank after warrior, cos they have better evasive abilities/aa and one point of knight AC is more effective than one point of ranger AC anyway.
# Feb 08 2005 at 9:07 AM Rating: Default
i am a ranger and i would take this weapon definatly... i have had to tank before and i think this could be a great help...

i think some of you who say rangers would be stupid to ever use are ignorant and selfish and i think i will roll on the next anger aug i see in the off chance i am called upon to tank again

have a great day all of you

RE: ...
# Feb 11 2006 at 8:55 AM Rating: Decent
97 posts
"if a ranger gets an anger aug instead of a warrior and no one is around to see it, does that make him an ***?" oh wait, is that it...?
RE: ...
# Mar 09 2005 at 7:20 PM Rating: Decent
70 Ranger here and...

as far as I know, there are no anger augs in game that are useable for rangers.

You don't need it. Remember you are a ranger? A hybrid class? you are able to cast if you want to get aggro. Nice spells out there with 0.5 secs casttime. If you want to wield a 2hs weapon, use some with high dps-output and rely on your spells to get and hold aggro.
RE: ...
# Sep 04 2005 at 2:55 PM Rating: Decent
50 posts
Edited because the stupid post above #%#!$#!$"ed me off and I probably shouldn't have flamed the dude.

I'll be doing RZtW soon and I'll be bidding on this. Any warriors want to cry they can cry. This thing will rock for tanking, which I do quite a bit of. The 50 AC is actually of more benefit to rangers than warriors.....and while the proc may be more necessary for a war, I sure won't turn it down.

Any warrior who really wants this sword should do what the rest of us do, bust your #$!@# earning the dkp to win the bid when it finally drops. Don't post here crying for one of the nicest swords below ele's as a freebie. Go EARN it. If you can outbid me then more power to ya. If you can't, then well I guess this wasn't as important as you let on, so don't flame when I loot it.

That extra 175 hp won't hurt me any as a ranger either, neither will that 30 agi....that's a nice boost to my weakest vital statistic. That agi does make a difference for my tanking, I can really see it when I'm able to snag a good agi buff vs when I'm not.

Edited, Sun Sep 4 16:19:09 2005
RE: ...
# Sep 07 2005 at 7:13 PM Rating: Decent
50 posts

Edited, Sun Sep 11 22:44:12 2005
RE: ...
# May 14 2005 at 6:14 AM Rating: Default
No such thing as hybrids anymore. Thanks for keeping up with the times. /sarcasm
RE: ...
# Feb 21 2005 at 12:42 AM Rating: Decent
55 posts
Point of curiousity: Don't believe any of the Anger augs are Ranger usable. Or do you mean just a ykesha effect that will indeed anger, though not Anger proper

Edited, Mon Feb 21 00:42:18 2005
ALL/ALL anger augs (Enraging Blow)
# Aug 28 2005 at 6:28 AM Rating: Good
451 posts
Yeah I know the post was from Feb, 05 before DoN release but goes to show Anger not War-only by any means :)

Oh and whatsup Tahl? Do yer ring war yet? hehe

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#REDACTED, Posted: Aug 13 2004 at 4:26 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Berserkers can also equipt this.
#REDACTED, Posted: Jul 13 2004 at 5:35 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) dam, thats sad
RE: /sigh
# Oct 24 2004 at 6:16 AM Rating: Decent
sorry to break it to you but well its a 2hs, you cant use this with an AoE, and by the time you can get a dbotw (1hs version) your AoE will be semi useless except for ramp tanking unless you have better by then of course
#REDACTED, Posted: Sep 12 2004 at 11:34 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) yes, i should hope that you notice that the BoW is a 2 HAND SLASH.
#REDACTED, Posted: Aug 27 2004 at 1:00 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) How could you use Aegis of Earth with this sword? You have 3 arms?
RE: /sigh
# Sep 18 2004 at 12:40 PM Rating: Decent
Your lvl 65 and could not see that this weapon was 2hslash? How sad...
RE: /sigh
# Feb 11 2005 at 1:21 PM Rating: Decent
ebay, i think so
#REDACTED, Posted: Sep 01 2004 at 6:53 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) haha lol. RZ potime sword =p. my bad
# Jun 23 2004 at 12:36 AM Rating: Default
would love to have this for my ranger, only problem 700 hate proc ewww, my ranger atm is not built too be a tank lol

Arwawen Woodruff 59th lvl ranger of tunare
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RE: nice
# Dec 10 2004 at 11:03 PM Rating: Default
1,273 posts
Give him this weapons and he'd be a lot better built to tank! With stamina and hp, AC and agi i'd imagine this would add the equivilent of 300hp and 55ac to the ranger who might win it.

This kinda weap can really make a tank!
#REDACTED, Posted: Jun 14 2004 at 10:58 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) on the posts below on darkelfs or ogres getting more hps in the long run, your just a ******.....omfg....race has nothing to do with how meny hps u get per level, its based on stamina and level and class alone, a 65 ogre warrior and a 65 fkin gnome warrior both in the best gear u can get and with caped stats would have the very same stats down to the last hp, as for ogres resisting frontal stun....there are aa's for that, and who wants an ogre blocking the entire screen, its not race that matters unless u care about stuff like regeneration or nightvision, race matters maby .1% for a warrior in the long run. and on the dumb post for darkelfs being the best and having most hps, try playing a warrior before you post something that dumb, only 2 good things a dark elf can do over another war race is see in the dark and the fact that they are small, warrior is based on skill of the player, then aa's, then gear. race means just about as much to a warrior as meele damage matters to a wizard.... and as for the proc on this, i think its frickin awsome, 700 !! 700 points of agro.. not some gimpy 400 off boc, and for all of you thinking 2hs would proc less than 2 1h weapons both with the proc, wrong, ( even tho there are some exeptions on how much some weapons proc, very few, aka like the cleric hammer ) they made the basic 2h weapons proc as much as 2 1hers with the same proc. ever seen a great staff of four winds proc? a hell of alota times, ever see how ment times 2 staffs of sheilding proc? the same ammount as the great staff, as would this weapon vs boc/bloodfrenzy . and you can never have enough agro, ever , if youve ever been mt on a raid, there is nothing more important to you than agro, why the hell would you want a gimp 150 dd proc over this? SERIOUSLY, maby if i was soloing in paladuel caverns, on a mob with 500k hps, would you rather save 10 extra people of the 90 that are on your raid, or do an extra 20dps, you be the judge. and as for sk's tanking, just why, why....warriors have about 20% more hps than them, 20% better ac and better effects from it, way more mitigation and dodge/block/defense/parry than them, and now ull say well warriors cant hold agro...hahahaha.( btw that would go just as well with paladins ), you know what taunt is? basicaly a free boc proc with are's caped, know what incite is? insane agro, and agro over time, snap agro when EVER you need it, oh and if that doesnt get the agro, wait there is ae taunt , or bascialy taunt x's 4 times. dont have agro? spirit of rage discipline, the only way ur not going to have agro right now is if ur duel weilding rusty daggers, oh and then theres just the fact that with are aa's we get 5, yes 5 , swings per weapon delay cycle if it all checks. 0-5, a lot better than the 0-3 sk's n pallys have, oh, and then theres just the 700 agro proc on this that goes off like crazy, then just get weapon innfinity to make it go off even faster, hell and then just add in an anger 3 aug, NOTHING can steal agro from you, unless the pally or sk are agro wh^%#$ that just want to try and impress ppl on how they can steal agro, sure they can, is it neccissary? hell no, should they ? hell no, why? because they burn up the clerics mana 2 times as faster, coming from a time enabled warrior in a guild that can actualy raid something other than kael...the name of it would put most of the ppl on this fourm to shame. all the noobs that post here should be spending their time in game learning about the game , then come back here and post something thats actualy correct.
RE: posts below
# Jun 15 2004 at 3:57 PM Rating: Excellent
3,705 posts
Well, I agree with some of what you say. Race matters little for a warrior.

However, there are several mistakes in your post. First, BoC is 700 hate, same exact proc as this. Click the link for the proc, and you will see BoC listed in the weapons with this effect.

Second, Taunt IS not like a hate proc. It works completely differently. It moves you up the hate list, it DOES NOT just give a flat amount of hate points, like this proc.

Third, white space is your friend. Notice how much easier my post is to read, with spaces between my points?

So, while you do make some valid points, perhaps you should hold off calling other people noobs, when at least part of what you said is wrong as well.
#REDACTED, Posted: Jun 18 2004 at 6:36 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) taunt does not push you up on the hate list u f'n noob. have you ever even played a warrior? a level 65 warrior and a level 55 warrior both beating on the same mob, 65 war is #1 on agro list 55 is #2, the 55 doesnt just from # 1 to # 2 by using taunt ...wish fourms would let me say the words i want omfg... if taunt doesnt add direct points to agro than what is it smart guy, is it dps agro? is it stun agro? what is agro? do you know? obviously not, its a list, who ever has the most points on it is in the #1 rank taunt adds direct points to agro dumbst, however there are skills like incite ( which you will never get because you dont even have a warrior much less a 65 one to get that and use it like i do ) that addds points to your hate list over time ( and yes its points, not some bs theory on bosting you up 1 rank on the agro list )...2300 posts of pure bs, and they rank him high....... maby you should stop trying to brag on what you think you know...because you dont... btw learn how to post a link because..its just not happnin. as for ppl not being able to read mine faster. i dont give a rats .... it doesnt take the entire fourm page up to get 5 sentences down. and what a waste of space yours are.
RE: posts below
# Jun 23 2004 at 2:50 PM Rating: Good
3,705 posts
Its almost a shame Lostet's posts are hidden by the default filter now. The irony of the fact that nearly every post he has ever made on Allakhazam is a flame, coupled with his statement:

if you really have to correct someone over something like that....cmon....think you need some time away from the computer. unless your just one of those nerds that actualy have no social life what so ever and it is their life to try to **** ppl off on a fourms to try to make themselfs look cool... well what ever

Is just too funny. My post contined facts, not flames, and your rather juvenile reply is a weak attempt to insult, riddled with errors, and just the types of flames you attempt to accuse me of.

I won't try to explain Taunt to you, as Kandiman does a pretty good job there. For more detailed explanations, you might want to try checking out steel warriors.

If you really do have a level 65 warrior, I'd highly recommend learning how taunt works, before your entire server puts you on the do not group list.
#REDACTED, Posted: Nov 03 2004 at 1:54 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) K, i win. Your both ******* nerd *** ******* who spends an hour making a post about ******** then acually comes back to hceck it and posts again? I can understand if u have a question u would come check it but shut the **** up and save your fingers.
RE: posts below
# Jun 21 2004 at 4:06 AM Rating: Excellent
75 posts
xaa is actually correct just not thorough in his explanation. taunt is actually current hate +1. So a warrior with zero agro can move to the top (i.e. a mob that has been mez'd 6 times). these hate weapons are nice because a class with taunt can move to the top of the list and when the proc goes off it can be 701 over the top. It will be difficult for others to catch up.

On the other hand taunt can fail and if you have someone who can do far and away more agro with nukes and stuns thats when it becomes difficult to hold agro. The secret tip thats seldom used is for wizards and such to call when they drop a nice bomb on mob. this way a warrior can taunt immediatly after it lands and be back on top of the hate list before wizard is dust.

If you will note, also people with DoT's can move to the top of the hate list really fast and die immediatly afterwards because a warrior may not proc or taunt faster than the hate points that the dot's create.

BTW, posts are difficult to read without spaces. who cares about grammar and sentence structure, the simple truth is you want a post thats easy to read.

So yeah, you're pretty much wrong about everything lostet, especially when you flame someone who knows what theyre talking about. But there is the possibility i may be wrong too.
RE: posts below
# Aug 15 2004 at 8:42 PM Rating: Good
If you will note, also people with DoT's can move to the top of the hate list really fast and die immediatly afterwards because a warrior may not proc or taunt faster than the hate points that the dot's create.

woah, preaching to the choire :p. cant count the number of times i've been turned into the MT for the seconds it takes me to die/feign/invul or all of the above cuz of my dots.

Critical Affliction rocks for dps but is surprise hate. beware.. oh and great post Xaa and Kandi 8)
RE: posts below
# Jun 15 2004 at 3:55 PM Rating: Default
3,705 posts
Posts were not showing up, ended up triple posting. My apologies.

Edited, Tue Jun 15 17:07:06 2004
RE: posts below
# Jun 15 2004 at 3:53 PM Rating: Default
3,705 posts

Edited, Tue Jun 15 17:07:23 2004
#REDACTED, Posted: Jun 09 2004 at 5:35 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) im actually pissed off that this weap procs agro and not someting else.
RE: meh
# Nov 03 2004 at 1:58 AM Rating: Default
Wow did you just say pretty twice in one post?
RE: meh
# Jun 12 2004 at 5:33 AM Rating: Decent
umm Vixeena... there are other weapons that look exactly like this, such as plankton laced greatsword, its designed primarly for warriors, because high end pop stuff ripostes you into next year, and hard, cant afford ripostes, and not many warrior 2handers are that great at holding aggro, thus this weapon.
link # for BoW ?
# Jun 02 2004 at 3:08 PM Rating: Default
How could i get a # sting for BoW link ?
#REDACTED, Posted: Jun 02 2004 at 7:33 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) this will be mine, oh yes, this will be mine
#REDACTED, Posted: May 06 2004 at 11:40 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) One point to add.
If all we are really worried about is the proc...
# May 05 2004 at 2:40 PM Rating: Decent
wouldn't it make more sense to have a lower delay weapon? A BoC or Hategiver or Bloodfrenzy all have better delays and have the same proc. Why would a MT want one of these instead of a BOC (I mean if you can kill RZTW, you can kill AOW) or a Bloodfrenzy primary (Bloodfrenzy has a 55% higher proc rate according to Lucy's) and Hategiver secondary to get the most procs.

I am not a warrior so I don't rally understand this stuff but I just don't understand.
RE: If all we are really worried about is the proc...
# May 19 2004 at 7:17 PM Rating: Decent
Your proc rate takes delay into account (as well as any haste spell/effect you have). If two weapons have the same proc rate modifier, you will get the same (on average) number of procs per minute out of each weapon even if one has twice the delay of the other.

If you want to increase your procs/swing, remove any haste item you're wearing, cancel any haste buff you have, duel a shaman and have get turgur'd. This will reduce the number of swings you make per minute. Since the weapon is gear to generate the same number of procs per minute, you will get a higher proc/swing rate. There was a post about some warriors who used this method in conjunction with an earthshaker (AE damage proc) and rampage to do some AEing in PoFire a while back.
RE: If all we are really worried about is the proc...
# May 05 2004 at 3:56 PM Rating: Excellent
3,705 posts
One word! Ripostes!!!!

Dual wielding a pair of low delay 1hs, is a recipe for insta-death against a high level mob with frequent ripostes.
RE: If all we are really worried about is the proc...
# Jun 02 2004 at 1:06 PM Rating: Decent
2,342 posts
Exactly... and it will chew you up.

I currently use a Bloodfrenzy, Aegis of the Earth combo for tanking major targets, but I will be using a BoW instead when I have one. It is much better for withstanding the ripostes.

Another tactic that's a bit more complex is to go into a major fight using Furious and dual weilding high agro weapons. As soon as Furious ends, put up Defensive and put on your shield/2hander weapon to avoid some ripostes.

I'll still keep my Bloodfrenzy/Hategiver combo for normal targets though :)
No open RZTW raids?
# Apr 28 2004 at 1:50 PM Rating: Decent
QUOTE: **nobody open raids RZ, thats just retarded** by ShortbusMadness

Tunare server has an open raiding community called Bowraids that has successfully taken down RZTW, and will do so again tonight. There goes the neighborhood.

#REDACTED, Posted: Apr 24 2004 at 6:51 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) All the races of Warrior have exactly the same HP/Sta. it doesn't matter what race. Btw.. Frog warriors > all =p
RE: Ogre wars
# Jun 16 2004 at 7:32 PM Rating: Decent
Froglok warriors made the halfling warrior obsolete except for the XP bonus... Thanks for pointing that out, J-dawg

65 halfling warrior
# Apr 11 2004 at 4:08 PM Rating: Default
HP 175 mana 175 endurance 175 are updated stats
Ogre Wars
# Apr 09 2004 at 4:54 AM Rating: Default
[b][/b]UNDERSTAND THIS PEOPLE WHO DONT KNOW WHAT YOU'RE SAYING ogre warriors are not flat out the best warriors ever, for the love of god people, even tho this is off topic it must be said, for the longest time before time flags, the top 4 warriors in the game in terms of hp, were dark elves. being an ogre may help cause of stuns but thats why there is AA to resist stun. and bleh bleh a ranger shouldnt get because frankly there should be a warrior in the guild to use it, nobody open raids RZ, thats just retarded, and if every one who needs a BoW in your guild has one? then why the hell are you even still doing him, surely your casters have what they need by then. just my 2cp
RE: Ogre Wars
# Jun 04 2005 at 7:37 AM Rating: Default
At this kinda level of the game with raid buffs your MT should be at or over max stats End of story .

Given that ......Ogre Wars for MT with their imunity to frontal stun are the best End of story .
RE: Ogre Wars
# Apr 27 2004 at 9:09 PM Rating: Default
nobody open raids RZ

ya...might want to reconsider that one. i'll be leading a pickup on him this weekend, i'll post back to let you know how it goes...

think what you want, people told me i couldn't kill bertox with pickup raid but i proved em wrong...
#REDACTED, Posted: Apr 10 2004 at 4:00 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Umm, ogres get more hp per level so a warrior with the same gear as those dark elves are you are talking about would have more hp from gear and on top of that an ogre is 100% resistant to frontal stuns and the AA isn't 100%. Oh and on saryrn there have been guilds to hold open raids on RZ so people can get the flag but loot is for the guild holding raid unless no one needs it.
RE: Ogre Wars
# Apr 21 2004 at 7:38 AM Rating: Default
ALL WARRIORS ARE ON THE SAME HP TABLE! Your HP is effected by stamina, and its very possible to get maxed out stamina with no effort, the real issue is that ogre's lack on dex and agi, meaning you get **** for ac and **** for procing, so they are 100% resistant to frontal stuns, thats not all that matters the aa can make the difference. all in all the only difference in reality is your stats at low level, if you get to quarm, your pretty much all the same unless you get pure hp
RE: Ogre Wars
# Apr 23 2004 at 6:05 PM Rating: Default
Haha dark elf warriors lol. Plz dude go away they suck. Ogres R the warrior class period.
RE: Ogre Wars
# Aug 19 2004 at 7:40 AM Rating: Decent
114 posts
How can you play a game to this level and still not understand what your stats actually do? Okay, ogres get more starting stamina and strength. That makes them good for newbies. Race does not affect hitpoints per stamina point, that's all down to class. Magelo has an entire forum dedicated to it.
And for those of you who don't know:
Agility is your best friend. AGI determines whether or not you avoid getting hit. The higher your AGI, the less hits you take, meaning that you don't need that extra 2% or whatever amount of hitpoints you THINK you get.
AGI counts towards AC, especially at higher levels and once you have the right AAs. More AC means you take less damage when your AGI roll fails and you get hit. Oh look, getting hit for less means you don't need that extra 2% hitpoints you THINK you get.

And another thing: having all the hitpoints in the world is not gonna help you when you're at 5% health and the cleric's OoM. What WILL help? That's right, good old AGI again. If you don't get hit as often, you don't need healed as much, meaning that you can fight longer without the healer complaining.

Man, ogres NEEDED the innate stun resist due to the fact that Sony realised their AGI sucked and they'd get hit more...
RE: Ogre Wars
# Dec 23 2004 at 12:44 AM Rating: Decent
i agree with most of the things you say, but

when you think about it, its just as easy if not

easier to max your agility as it is stamina--so,

if all warriors have max dex, agi, str,

sta...then the one that is 100% immune to stun

would be the best, or am i wrong. Since all

stats are maxed, the ogre lack of agility as you

say is nullified, and their ability not to get

stunned takes precedent over the fact they are

equal on stats with everyone else.
RE: Ogre Wars
# Apr 30 2004 at 8:17 AM Rating: Decent
13 posts
I'm in an elemental lvl guild about to break into time... we have Zero, counte em ZERO ogre warriors... in fact we use a halfling all the time :P
RE: Ogre Wars
# Jun 03 2004 at 5:18 PM Rating: Decent
You know, my guild uses a halfing in time too.

That is to tank, and not meant as a joke.

It'd be a joke if it was a gnome.

RE: Ogre Wars
# Jun 16 2004 at 7:36 PM Rating: Decent
The reasoning is because since all warriors have the same HP/STA, then the XP bonus is the next to be viewed. Although it works only on normal xp, halflings get a 5% bonus. Assuming that they are leveled in the exact same amount of time as a human warrior, thats approx 4.7% FASTER to get to 65 than a human. thus, that 4.7% can be turned to AA, and there we go...instant Halfling MA's
RE: Ogre Wars
# Apr 10 2004 at 1:33 PM Rating: Decent
only way that ogres get more HPs per level is through the innate higher stamina, but that is negated with AAs and buffs. 305 is the highest Sta you can get, once you hit 305 Sta race has nothing to do with HPs.
RE: Ogre Wars
# Apr 27 2004 at 10:42 PM Rating: Good
i agree. the race for a warrior shouldnt really be an issue, especially at higher lvls. i think that choosing a race is just a matter of personal preference. I myself play a dwarf warrior...

Edited, Tue Apr 27 23:42:59 2004
# Apr 06 2004 at 10:35 PM Rating: Decent
Well being a war i would love to have this weapon, but at the same time i can't dis pallys and SKs. if they want in on the roll then let them, i have offtanked in raids with pally/sk MTs, i have watched rangers offtank, but any way you slice it, this wepaon gives some serious agro and for those ppl who don't want the weap to tank shouldn't get it, but if you are in a guild and al of your tanks have it or better, then why not let a ranger get one, never know maybe it will prove usefull one day, have had a ranger or 2 save my hide before,. take agro long enough for the heal to go off. so it all depends on the situation as to who gets it.

at least thats my humble opinion.
# Apr 27 2004 at 1:42 AM Rating: Excellent
knights have their own version of the BoW its the Stone Eteched War Sword from PoE
# Apr 15 2004 at 3:55 AM Rating: Good
pally nor sk needs a weap to aggro though, warr does

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# Apr 04 2004 at 12:38 AM Rating: Default
Prolly because it procs agro see unless your ranja is ungodly geared your not gonna be doing alot of tanking pull your head outta your well you know what i mean warrior then knights then whatever else would want it. Anything else is just to **** off your warrior friend who would kill for it.

Edited, Sun Apr 4 00:39:54 2004
# Apr 02 2004 at 12:50 AM Rating: Default
i have seen rangers with this and even some with a vdd no reason why a ranger cant have this..
# Mar 31 2004 at 4:18 PM Rating: Decent
My guild on CT recently killed RZ this didn't drop our MA was unhappy went from vindi to elemental in 4months not bad. Hopefully next time we kill him he will drop it hate to see our tank get ate alive by ripostes on the elementals raids using BoC and BF lol.
# Mar 27 2004 at 5:38 PM Rating: Good
btw im a shadow knight , and yeah if there is a warrior that is in our guild atm that doesnt have it already they deserve this weapon 10-fold over me or any other knight that might be there ... this weapon is made to get aggro and hold it and yeah we can get other weapons that are just as good if not better and no u dont have to be in time to get them either .. but dont think for a second that if its an open bid im not going try for it.. and saying this doesnt mean knights shouldnt hold aggro, warriors just need all the help they can get, cause a warrior w/o dps and some form of aggro = me taking aggro while shaking my head =)

Edited, Sat Mar 27 17:40:53 2004
warr weapon
# Mar 23 2004 at 1:16 PM Rating: Decent
Everyone knows warriors are gonna get it first is there really a point in saying anything else?
# Mar 11 2004 at 8:23 PM Rating: Decent
My warr has this weapon it parsed at 127(maxed aa btw). The graphics look sweet as hell, look the best on a ogre or troll since the blade is extremely long. K enough of the useful information, now to the usual dirt you see on these boards.............

Who should get it. If your in a guild its a no brainer. If its an open raid anyone yes even a ranger, we have a few rangers who top 9k hp and often tank in a few places so dont say it shouldnt go to a ranger.
# Mar 24 2004 at 5:16 PM Rating: Good
So what if a ranger has 9k? I'd love to see that ranger tank Rallos Zek. Go right on ahead....use your weapon shield.....hell, try and kite him if you can.....once he gets in two of his swings, your gonna be crying back to the clerics. Why on earth would a ranger want aggro over a warrior anyways? Two words......defense discipline....

Maxium Duelblade
# Dec 21 2004 at 9:11 AM Rating: Default
Missed the point of his post you did, yes.
What happens when you cant find a tank for a group but you happen to have an 11k ranger or berserker sitting there? They tank.

No kidding they wont be tanking RZ, but after your RZ raid does EQ turn off? Nope, there are many situations where a ranger or a zerker should be MT when you dont have a regular tank class.

The post wasnt about tanking ability of ranger vs warrior, it was about in an open raid all classes listed should get to roll because in some situations all classes can use the item.

#1 It should go to a warrior, i think thats a non issue.

Im pretty sure if a warrior was tanking and a ranger had this weapon, he wouldnt be using it unless he was smoking yellowish nuggets out of a glass tube.
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