What's the duration of this clicky. I don't see using this if its 3 ticks like the normal song. Some clicky have extended duration. I can see using this if it has a long duration, otherwise waste of time.
This BP is good. Dont get me wrong, I am not saying that this BP is chump change by any account. I jus have to say at the same time that its not that great. I use the N Ro adv BP instead, (https://everquest.allakhazam.com/profile.html?390373) because I can put more useful effects on it and its much easier to get. If in the future on a BOT tower raid I end up getting the roll on an Ornate BP mold, then its going up for sale in bazaar. I need a better waist item anyway and I refuse to sit in the 30 person wait line for the Fabled sash for a hundred hours. I'd rather just take the proceeds from a BP mold sale and get a diff belt in bazaar that I do need. Now granted the BP as I currently have it takes 1492 pts for the armor and 510 pts for the FT2 aug, but thats like only about 2000 pts or about 40 LDON's. And, you get more plus-up's on your adv stone besides. Not to mention the exp from 40 Normal-setting LDON's. (I prefer normal ones. Compared to hard ones they go faster, less deaths/rezzes, easier to win, etc. I can rack em the wins faster on my adv stone on normal setting)
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Posted:Dec 10 2004 at 8:59 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Thats fine if you wouldn't use, but if there are other people in raid that would love to have this item, would be nice not to roll since you aren't going use and just sell it. Just my 2 cents cause I always seem to roll terrible on the good stuff.
I think that bard got the most useless ornate effect.
Spell user got spell at free cost and sometimes pretty usefull one.
puire melle got clicky spell.
us we got song that we can already cast withotu mana cost.. ya if you buy the ornate b4 the lvl requirement of the song its good but if you cant get it b4 its pretty useless.
ya I guess we keep having good stats but all other class got those stats
high level haste/ds/stat buff song at lvl 55 that's normally on a lvl 62+ (this is considering it's a twink who can afford the ornate BP)
This is good in that u don't waste a song slot. Now you have 1 free space to load another useful song. Stats on bp aren't that bad for a dropable quest item.
Ahh no, That honor goes to the Shadow Knight Ornate effect. We get Shroud of Death as the effect, a level 55 spell that we don't even use when we get it as it doesn't stack with Mental Corruption which is in most instances more useful.
A bard at level 55 with a TDoK is easily at the 158% cap on run speed. The pally/SK AA horses top out at 155%. A backwards running bard with a few AA's under his belt and a nice drum will beat the horse, like Rappapart said.
A 55 bard with a 2.8 mod (whether from Tdok or IM and lesser drum) is at the speed cap. Same as Holy/Unholy steed. Bards have no strat up time, have better manueverability, and can stop on a dime. A bard will always win. When you get elemental drum, and max IM and AT, you can do the same thing running BACKWARDS.
The main benefit here is actually that you can use this LONG before you get the song. You can get this item starting at lvl 55 and you can click it right away.
This works exactly as the song does. 3 tick duration. You would have to twist it in in the same manner as the song so the only benefit is the savings of a gem slot.
Got this the other day so I am speaking from experience, not speculation.
imho, i think that bards only need resists... after they become fast enought to out run EVERYTHING they just need to worry about casters and the harm/slowing effects they can do.
every fighting style a bard has ( that i have seen/heard of ) requires them not to get hit... cuz lets face it we dont have the hp to take it and if you do... that is all you go for
imo bards should get killer resist gear and that is it... that would make me more than happy and would make alot other bards happy, exluding all bards under lvl 40
ok, after playing for a few more lvls and learning what a high end bards job is i have to take my comment back... hp, ac, mana, regen of hp and mana... is a big thing.. much more than any resist gear could give you. either way , this BP is nice ... not fond of the effect tho... freeing up a gem is alright, woulda been much better if they stuck it as a 1 second casting time like on the greaves.
Bards only need resists? Let me think, in every group I have been in I am the puller, in most groups I have the CC duty and a lot of the times I am the slower. That is a tremendous amount of aggro so I guess having a high MR is the only thing I need when the Tactic/BoT mobs get a little pissed and start smacking me around until the MT gets aggro, and if the MT is a warrior that loses aggro occasionally my high FR will come in real handy.
Wake up and smell the roses, k, k! Bards need all kinds of stats, and hps and mana! Ever swarm kite? Ever get caught in a train? Ever go to VT/Ssra, Tier 2 or higher pop on a raid? HPs are definitely needed, not to mention when you are in MA group and get agro cause their EB weapon doesnt proc soon enough and you kick in songs or need them going to keep them up when the mob procs at beginning of fight. You need alot more than just resists, if thats allyou think you need go get blue diamond gear and see how long you live with just that, thanks see ya.
We rarely get nerfed, but, because of the way Bardic songs work, we do get tossed a bug about every other patch... Like when they changed lev, without realizing it'd make Bardic lev useless (And killing a few Bards who found it out the hard way)
That being said, I want this BP =) Is it the blue one pictured in the backround, anyone know?
Flars all due respect, you complain about bards being nerfed. All classes fear the dreaded nerf. But the reason you guys dont get stuff like this is pretty simple, even without much AC and stats, bards can Do amazing things, like oh lets see example lvl 51 bard soloing mobs in PoD. When your skills outmatch what an entire group can struggle to do , whats AC and stats mean. Not trying to flame, but sometimes nerfs are legitimate things. Wouldnt expect anyone to enjoy one either.
They break songs and such more than any other class period. That is why we dread the nerf.
Btw, most bards who have played a duration of time instead of straight leveling would probably either have vindi, ss/kael, erad, bp of void, etc by time they get to the point where they can get this, so is it a huge item? No.
First of all, everything that a bard can do solo is an extension of what makes them valuable in a group. The same way I can turn a mobs against it's friends, I can also do the same for my group. And just so you know it's not all peachy keen. Swarming is only viable in very particular areas against very particular mobs. Mana is always a problem. And any change to those parameters also affects our ability to do our job when grouped. Read the bard community boards and try to get the whole picture before you even dare claim that any nerf is legitimate.
That said, this item looks great to me. Sure, some people will say that it's only a slight upgrade over this or not as good as that. Or the reward isn't up to the risk of where the mold drops or whatever. The truth of the matter is that not everyone can always have the very best of everything. It looks like a solid BP to me and while it may dissappoint some Ubers, I'd love to have it.
Bards DO need AC/HP/STA and this BP has plenty. When we do primary CC, we are prone to getting beat down hard and often. The more of these we have, the better off we are.
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Posted:Nov 22 2002 at 12:26 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) About time the put something is that helps bards instead of nerfing them every patch