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Twisted Longbow  
 

Lore Item Placeable
Slot: RANGE
Skill: Archery Atk Delay: 38
DMG: 32 AC: 5
Magic DMG: 2
This item is placeable in yards, guild yards, houses and guild halls.
STR: +5 WIS: +5 INT: +5 HP: +35 MANA: +35 ENDUR: +35
SV MAGIC: +10
Recommended level of 50.
WT: 4.0 Range: 185 Size: LARGE
Class: WAR PAL RNG SHD ROG
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type 4 (Weapon: General)
Slot 2, Type 20 (Ornamentation)

Item Type:Archery
Stackable:No
Tribute:2400
Lucy Entry By:Kerasota
Item Updated By:SwiftyMUSE
Source:Live
IC Last Updated:2021-12-22 03:14:47
Page Updated:Thu Oct 9th, 2008

Expansion: Planes of Power Planes of Power


Average Price: No Data Pricing Data...
Rarity: Uncommon
Level to Attain: 55

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This item is the result of a quest.
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Quest Name
Thelin's Torment (Access to the Lair of Terris Thule)

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Zone Name
Plane of Nightmare
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Here are my views... LONG POST! :)
# Oct 24 2002 at 12:07 AM Rating: Good
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I would have to agree that rangers would get the most use out of this bow (and most other bows) hands-down, and because of that they would usually get this kind of bow before other classes. For the most part, only rangers use bows for actual combat, while every other class with archery generally only uses arrows to pull monsters. If you just use a bow to pull monsters with, then all that really matters is the range on the bow and the range on the arrows, because the damage from that single shot is fairly insignificant. Also, because most tanking fighters will usually replace the bow with some other item in the range slot, to add large amounts of armor class and other stats, the stats on the bow don't matter much either. In this case, the bow adds to armor class and other stats to a small degree, but probably not enough to keep it in the range slot instead of other available items. I do agree that this bow is very good for anyone that can use it; I am simply giving my opinions on class priority, and everyone is quite free to disagree with me completely. :)

Out of the five classes that have archery available to them, it's pretty obvious to me how they stand in order of rank:

Rangers first. Hands down. Bar none. Rangers get several class specific buffs and abilities that actually make archery useful in a game where archery seems quite a bit watered down, as well as having very high caps in the archery skill. In many cases, rangers can actually do *more* damage with a bow than they can do while dual-wielding good quality weapons.

Warriors and rogues would fall in the second grouping. While these two classes are primary melee characters, and have high skill caps with archery, they do not have any special spells or abilities available to them that accentuate the archery skill, other than critical hits (which some people seem to consider unreliable eye candy). Most of the time a warrior's main role is simply to take damage in melee and hold a target's attention, and ranged attacks rarely come into play in this role. A rogue's primary combat ability is the backstab, and while this role may take a lot more finesse than a warrior's, it still involves getting up-close-and-personal with a target, precluding the use of ranged attacks; when a rogue does decide to use ranged attacks they may likely choose to use throwing weapons in order to take advantage of their class-specific throwing abilities (critical hits, deadly strikes, assassination). Good quality bows will still see a lot of use in the hands of a rogue or warrior, but in the hands of a skilled ranger, that use will increase 100 fold.

In the third grouping, we have the remaining two classes with archery available to them: paladins and shadow knights. Originally paladins didn't even have the archery skill, but of course that was way back in the day where paladins were considered by many (certainly not all, but many) to be rather useless. Paladins do have archery available to them now, however the skill has a very low cap, making it pretty useless for mainstream combat. Shadow knights are basically in the same boat, with a lower skill cap than the primary archers. While bows will certainly still see use in the hands of knights as pulling tools, especially for "tag pulling" with a feigning monk or shadow knight, much like the other fighters the bow will be de-equipped and replaced with something more suitable to melee combat when the heavy fighting starts. In many cases, however, paladins and shadow knights will simply *keep* their melee items equipped in the range slot, and use various spells to pull with, using a bow only for "tag pulling" when necessary.

I realize that this post began to drag on quite a bit, but I hope that I was fairly clear with my explanations, and that some people out there will understand more clearly this type of "Ranger bow! Monk item!" argument.

Now, let me equip my Gnomish Environment Suit, and let the flames begin!

Tomlin Tallfellow - 55 Halfling Druid
Azlaire Tallfellow - 41 Halfling Paladin
Kevlin Tallfellow - 32 Halfling Warrior
Silvester Stormblade - 46 Half-Elf Ranger
Vaeliin - 47 Dark Elf Rogue
Vaelorn D`Bious - 34 Dark Elf Shadow Knight
Mithaniel Marr Server

PS: Edited this message to say that yes, this bow is tradeable, so for many lower level characters, this is a very good range item *and* an excellent bow. There, maybe that took away some of the fuel for at least one flame...

Edited, Thu Oct 24 00:57:40 2002
RE: Here are my views... LONG POST! :)
# Oct 25 2002 at 5:58 AM Rating: Decent
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I agree with all the "Ranger's should get this" talk (not just because I'm a ranger, but also agreeing with all you guys are saying), but I'm really coming up with my own theory here. This is available to the other classes, and this is very very early in the time PoP has been out, doesn't that hint to all you other rangers that perhaps we'll get a few RNG-Only bows, better than this one, that'll make this bow look like riff-raff as people dig deeper into the planes? Just my theory, and I hope I'm right ;)
RE: Here are my views... LONG POST! :)
# Oct 24 2002 at 12:25 AM Rating: Decent
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Why flame you? You're dead on.
#REDACTED, Posted: Oct 24 2002 at 7:07 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Except, for the most part, Rangers can get better Bows then this with a decent guild, add to it there are not alot of decent bows for SK/Palleys to begin with, the fect that wecan even use this means something.
RE: Here are my views... LONG POST! :)
# Oct 24 2002 at 7:31 PM Rating: Decent
With a skill cap of 75 there isnt much need for SK/Pally's to have bows other than "I want one". You will still miss about 80% of your shots fired and when you do hit it will me negligble.

Gammal
RE: Here are my views... LONG POST! :)
# Oct 26 2002 at 7:16 PM Rating: Decent
Thank You for flaming with no point. Some Pally's and Sk's like having available options. It was made with the ability for us to use them. So it is our option to use them. If you want to place an ignorant post, you succeeded.

Skratchemhard Cuztheyitchin
37th Paladin of Brell
RE: Here are my views... LONG POST! :)
# Dec 04 2002 at 6:52 PM Rating: Decent
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Sorry to interject in this little flame war, but this is an issue I feel strongly about.

As a paladin, I have tried to use my bow as much as possible, from level 1 to level 60, but it is futile.

With a max skill of 75, dex over 140, using good (expensive) crafted arrows, a good crafted bow, and a haste quiver, I do almost no damage with my bow (those few times when I actually get a hit). The only time I ever use my bow anymore is when I hang around a newbie area, pulling and killing greenies for tradeskill supplies.

It is very frustrating to have the same archery potential as a level 14 warrior. It's a lot like when a caster tries to melee - something just doesn't seem right.

My one wish is for Verant to allow knights to raise our archery skill to an acceptable level (100? 200?). It can still lag behind the other classes, but make it so we can resort to archery for something other than pulling.

Unfortunately, until this issue is adressed, good bows like this should never be given to a knight unless they want to sell it in the Bazaar.
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A good sign.
# Oct 23 2002 at 11:30 PM Rating: Decent
YAY!!! already 2 fine bows (the other being the compound steelshaft bow) have been posted on this site since from the news planes!!! this is good fortune for Norrath's rangers and hopefully a strong omen of what nice bows lie deeper in this expansion: )
rangers
# Oct 23 2002 at 9:49 PM Rating: Decent
I'm a warrior.. and I wouldn't even THINK of bidding on this over a ranger. When it comes to melee weapons, if I can use it I will bid (i.e. winning the guild's first smouldershank that's a 14/20 dagger), but bows... rangers outdamage other classes by a huge margin with them.
#REDACTED, Posted: Oct 23 2002 at 6:35 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) any class who can use it, to good efect should get it, damn rainjar a$$clowns... hunting bow my left nut
Classes
# Oct 23 2002 at 5:53 PM Rating: Decent
Out of all the classes listed, only a ranger should ever get this unless al the rangers present have better. The other classes will only ever do token damage with a bow or will primarily use it for pulling, so they can stick with the hunting bow lol
RE: Classes
# Oct 23 2002 at 8:09 PM Rating: Default
I say if u fight the mob and u are able to use the item then why dont you deserve a chance to get it! Otherwise if peeps know they wont get a chance to roll then why the hell go on the raid/fight???

IF you do the work then you should get the reward.
Nuff said.



Edited, Wed Oct 23 20:51:55 2002
RE: Classes
# Oct 23 2002 at 11:54 PM Rating: Decent
Tussle, now this time around, try to THINK for a second before you post oook?

#1 Bows used for pulling need only 3 things.
Range
Aggro proc
Low delay
If you use your bow to pull you don't want to do much damage because it will get you summoned.

Perfect pullig bow would be:
1 damage 20 delay, 250 range (highest current range on a bow)
Proc: Snare/Tashanian, or something to this extent.
RE: Classes
# Oct 24 2002 at 4:10 AM Rating: Good
Aye... and Tuss... if your only purpose on a raid is to get 'loot', then you're one chap I'm happy isn't on my raids. :)

P.
RE: Classes
# Oct 23 2002 at 10:22 PM Rating: Decent

A druid...figures they would havd some dumb azz thing to say like that. =P Don't play a ranger do ya?
RE: Classes
# Oct 23 2002 at 7:47 PM Rating: Decent
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"Out of all the classes listed, only a ranger should ever get this"

Go to the plane, and kill the mob in question. THEN decide who should get the bow.

Jeez.

You remind me of the people who argue about dragon loot before a naggy raid and then are shocked the raid failed.

Learn to walk before you can run.

GET the bow then argue about who should loot it.

-Wu
RE: Classes
# Oct 23 2002 at 7:32 PM Rating: Default
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748 posts
Warriors and rogues can do decent damage with archery too... I wouldn't let a shadowknight or palladin get this, but there's no reason not to let warriors and rogues roll for it as well as the rangers.
RE: Classes
# Oct 23 2002 at 10:05 PM Rating: Good
warriors and rogues can do decent damage with archery to... rangers do awesome damage with bows and the rog that would give up backstab to shoot arrows better leave my raid. warriors= meat shield nuff said. all they need is a shadewood bow to pull with
#REDACTED, Posted: Oct 23 2002 at 5:14 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Need a MoB and rarity of the drop please. looking to switch from throwing weapons to Bows.
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