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Talisman of Vah Kerrath  

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Slot: NECK
AC: 35
STR: +15+6 DEX: +15 STA: +15 CHA: +15 WIS: +15 INT: +15 AGI: +15 HP: +125 MANA: +125 ENDUR: +125
Attack: +20 HP Regen +8 Mana Regeneration: +8
Required level of 55.
Effect: Blessing of Vah Kerrath (Worn, Casting Time: Instant)
WT: 0.4 Size: TINY
Class: ALL
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type 7 (General: Group)

Item Type:Jewelry
Lucy Entry By:Kerasota
Item Updated By:SwiftyMUSE
IC Last Updated:2022-01-15 18:42:57
Page Updated:Thu Oct 9th, 2008

*This item is the result of a raid event.
Expansion: Shadows of Luclin Shadows of Luclin

Rarity: Ultra Rare
Level to Attain: 60

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This item is the result of a quest.
Expansion List - Premium only.
Quest Name
Medallion of Akelha Ra

Zone(s) Found In:

Zone Name
Umbral Plains
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2020 Mangler TLP Video on AHR Neck
# Feb 19 2020 at 4:07 PM Rating: Decent
47 posts
Gets you more than halfway to the 15 worn Mana regen cap on gear in era. Must have bard item for Planes of Power/LDoN. Helps out huge with Denon's Dirge & Fading Memories.
lost +2 ds
# Oct 16 2016 at 3:40 PM Rating: Good
41 posts
now you only get +6 DS from the 6 heroic strength, should have gotten 8 ds as the original item, so bug report this.
stat change
# Jul 13 2016 at 11:51 PM Rating: Decent
Seems like the stats has changed a bit.

Now has Heroic strength +6, while losing the damage shield mod.
# Nov 05 2008 at 5:24 PM Rating: Decent
my question is ... does the effect of this stack with Necro Line of Mana regen? as well as the item orb of lost souls //////

does the Talisman of Kah + Orb of Lost souls + Necro line of Mana Regen all stack? = yes no maybe so
# Apr 06 2011 at 6:50 AM Rating: Excellent
2,308 posts

Lich mana regen is slot 2: Increase Mana by 35 per tick.
This one is slot 1: Increase Mana by 8 per tick.
Orb is slot 5: Increase Mana by 3 per tick.

No problems there.
Re: stacking
# Apr 06 2011 at 3:49 PM Rating: Decent
2,689 posts
fcoty is absolutely correct, as how the item's worn effect used to work. However, since around 2004, iirc, Sony made all the parts f the effect on the item, other than the Ultravision, so there is no spell stacking issues with this item now, only worn caps issues.

Mana Regen caps at 15 without AA extensions.
HP Regen caps at 35 to level 65, then +2 to Cap for each level above 65, without AA extensions.
DS caps at 35 without AA extensions (Are there AA DS extensions, I forget atm, but don't remember any off-hand).
Attack caps at 250 without AA extensions.

Yther Ore.

Edited, May 1st 2011 6:50pm by Yther
I'm confused...
# Aug 12 2008 at 2:22 PM Rating: Decent
I know this says it has a dmg shield +8...but the Blessing effect says it will dmg any creature that attacks you.

Is that the +8 is lists or does the Blessing have it's own damage shield and the Talisman give you +8 to your existing damage shield?
I'm confused...
# Apr 05 2011 at 9:08 PM Rating: Decent
530 posts

Back in my day, the game didn't spell everything out for you. We didn't have any of this "attack +20" and "mana regen" nonsense. Just good ol' vague flavor text that rolled a bunch of effects up into one description, and Flowing Thought I, II, III, IV, and V. Then you whippersnappers came along and went and changed it all. My flavor text became a generic focus effect, and the half dozen little prizes it contained became just more numbers on the page.


Seriously, though, that about sums it up. A lot of epics, for example, have pictures on here that show an effect as it was at creation, and then the stats of the item Alla has differ substantially. The differences are ultimately that a special worn effect became a lot less special, and 4/5 of what it used to do is just a number on the item description now.
Jiriki Sa`Onserei, 120/67k AA Wood Elf Ranger
Anadriel Starfire, 120/46k AA High Elf Mage
Better and Easier to Obtain
# Jun 18 2006 at 3:37 AM Rating: Default
Ok maybe not better but certainly easier to Obtain....

Blessed Seeker Pendant Lucy's Entry
Weight: 0.8 Size: SMALL
Slot: NECK
AC: +30 Dex: +18 Cha: +15 Wis: +20 Int: +20 Agi: +15 Fire Resist: +30 Disease Resist: +30 Magic Resist: +25 HP: +175 Mana: +175 End: +175
Classes: All Classes
Races: All Races
Slot 1: Type 8
Required: Yes

Last updated: Thu Dec 29 15:45:13 2005


Focus Effect: Muram's Fury
1: Increase Spell Damage by 30%
2: Limit: Max Level(70) (lose 10% per level over cap)
3: Limit: Effect(Hitpoints allowed)
5: Limit: Spell Type(Detrimental only)
6: Limit: Target(AE PC v1 excluded)
7: Limit: Target(PB AE excluded)
8: Limit: Target(Targeted AE excluded)
9: Limit: Target(Uber Giants excluded)
10: Limit: Target(Uber Dragons excluded)
11: Limit: Combat Skills Not Allowed
12: Limit: Resist(Magic allowed)


Rarity: Common

Level to Attain: 70

Recommended Level: 70
Required Level: 65

Additional Modifiers:
Attack: +25
Mana Regeneration: +5
Stringed Instruments: +120% (2.2)

Quest details here:

Completed this with my wizzy alt in a day there are additional PoTime quality loot that drops as well..

lvl 70 Wizard
of Druzzil Ro

Edited, Sun Jun 18 03:28:20 2006
Better and Easier to Obtain
# Jun 23 2007 at 3:14 PM Rating: Decent
322 posts
Nowdays, that is part of the appeal of the talisman . . . for those who remember it even exists . . . not everyone and their uncle is going to have it.

Getting to VT requires commitment.

Getting to Aten requires commitment; the talisman isn't a gimme like the Blessed Seeker is.

For the period, it was one of those amazing end-game trophies to have.
HP and Mana
# Jan 05 2005 at 11:40 AM Rating: Default
How much HP and Mana does the effect add, not regen but actually HP and Mana?
# Oct 04 2004 at 10:31 AM Rating: Decent
I just reallized something... there is no upgrade to that. Maybe something with more stats.... but this effect is just undeniable.
RE: Wow...
# Dec 16 2004 at 6:01 AM Rating: Decent
/agree with Orocular
RE: Wow...
# May 24 2005 at 10:02 AM Rating: Default
Yeah, the effect is really badass and if you can get this at 60 you'll be hard pressed to find anything better, but once you're fully OoW geared you'll probably already have max FT and you can probably find something with better stats/mana/hp/resists.

Still, holy crap that's nice.

Ultravision != super uber anymore sadly. They should change that effect. Most people get it from at least ONE focus effect or self buff or something later on anyways.
# Aug 30 2004 at 7:34 AM Rating: Default
Effect nerfed. mana regen, hp regen, ATK buff and DS removed.

Not it is not I had a guildmate just get this 2 days ago and it's still has the effects.
#REDACTED, Posted: Apr 01 2004 at 10:46 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Effect nerfed. mana regen, hp regen, ATK buff and DS removed.
RE: SoE does it again
# Apr 24 2004 at 11:31 PM Rating: Decent
Moron...use your eyes and read.
RE: SoE does it again
# Apr 04 2004 at 5:28 PM Rating: Good
Effect was changed to Ultravision only, because mana regen, hp regen, attack buff, and DS are now stats and are listed as such on the item. The item hasn't changed. /conspiracy off
RE: SoE does it again
# Jul 09 2004 at 11:52 PM Rating: Decent
Well it was nerfed sorta. Before when there was FT instead of mana regen on items it was possible to have ft 15 + 8 mana regen from talisman. Now Talisman counts twords mana regen cap of 15 so **** on SoE.
RE: SoE does it again
# Aug 26 2004 at 5:23 AM Rating: Decent
43 posts
That is untrue.
They didn't nerf it.
Soe just changed the way to describe the effect.
The mana-regeneffect was always counted towards mana-regen cap of 15.
You have never been able to have more regen then 15 mana/Tick on worn items.
RE: SoE does it again
# Nov 12 2004 at 11:29 AM Rating: Decent
1,273 posts
Actually when flowing thought was first implemented it didn't stack with equal strength of FT. I.e FT II + FT II = FT II, but FT I + FT II = FT III.

This was changed within just a couple of weeks if I remember right because it's just plane crazy!

I can't remember if there was a FT 15 max during that time, though i vaguelly remember hearing FT only went up to version 5 (and 1+2+3+4+5 = 15). Though I just can't remember, sorry.
#REDACTED, Posted: Oct 04 2004 at 10:29 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Untill now. FT cap at 20.
#KANDIMANN, Posted: Apr 02 2004 at 2:49 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) phew, had me goin for a minute. make sure you always check the date of a post, it might be on april fools.
#KANDIMANN, Posted: Apr 16 2004 at 12:48 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Heyyyy I am now the proud owner of this item.
Correct me if I am wrong.
# Jan 15 2004 at 9:35 AM Rating: Default
Correct me if I am wrong, but look up Blessing of Vah Kerrath and you will find a cast time and duration. Therefore it is a spell and all spells will stack with FT15. Now does it stack with VoQ ect. that is another question.
Got my VT key and looking forward to winning this.
RE: Correct me if I am wrong.
# Jan 17 2004 at 1:25 PM Rating: Decent
Despite Blessing of Vah Kerrath can be cast, this item got it as worn effect, it's permanent. Regarding the stack issue, as far i know, all worn effects do stack with casted buffs and are supposed to stack with every other worn effect.
Most worn effect can also be casted, also there's often differences between casted and worn version of the same buff.
A good example is Fungal regrowth : the fungus covered staff is a clicky and the buff got a slow part that the worn effect on fungus tunic doesn't got.
No augment slot
# Dec 15 2003 at 5:20 AM Rating: Good
This item does not have an augment slot. (12/15/2003)
RE: No augment slot
# Jan 06 2004 at 11:21 AM Rating: Default
It really doesn't need one.
RE: No augment slot
# Jun 03 2004 at 6:02 PM Rating: Default
75 posts
It doesn't need one? Then why do Plane of Time drops with much better stats have an augment slot? You think they need one?

Falloraan Saskiir
Crusader of Marr
Invictvs on Tholuxe Paells
RE: No augment slot
# Jun 04 2004 at 5:04 PM Rating: Good
658 posts
The "it doesn't need one" is the designers' perspective, not the players'. Seriously, there is a thread on the Sony message boards about this and - that's what they said.
RE: No augment slot
# Jul 09 2004 at 9:52 PM Rating: Good
75 posts
Thanks Sarnath. I hunted around and found the official post, here it is if anyone cares to read it. Can't say as I agree, but doubt they will change it now if they haven't already.

Could we please get an Augment slot on the Talisman of Vah Kerrath

Falloraan Saskiir - Crusader of Marr
Officer of Invictvs - Tholuxe Paells

#REDACTED, Posted: Jan 25 2004 at 7:08 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) LOL...
Won this tonight
# Oct 25 2003 at 3:38 AM Rating: Decent
Raiding in VT till 4am EST is a pain, but this made it worth it, got it with amiable to remains. What sucks is, I won this earlier in the day in a pick up raid....

VT key
# Oct 22 2003 at 6:47 PM Rating: Default
Someone mentioned that this item also serves as a VT Key. Is this true. In other words, if someone gets this item, they no loner need the peice off the shissar wraiths?
RE: VT key
# Oct 25 2003 at 2:04 AM Rating: Default
497 posts
The quest NPC gave out the original VT key quest, but gives out this one now.

If you read the quest text, you need a drop from VT to get this medallion, so no, I doubt it could be used as a key.
RE: VT key
# Oct 25 2003 at 2:04 AM Rating: Default
You have to kill the boss of VT to get this item, so wouldn't you have to already be keyed for VT?
#REDACTED, Posted: Oct 12 2003 at 4:05 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) What's the point of this item if 15 is the max item mana regen you can get? Seems kind of crap melee can regen as many hps as they want but we've been stuck at 15 manaregen since velious. It should have been upped to 25 at least by now.
RE: sigh
# Oct 28 2003 at 3:23 PM Rating: Good
[quote]What's the point of this item if 15 is the max item mana regen you can get?...

Whats the point? The point is this item is FT8! Dude, if you're telling me that you wouldn't like to have more than half of your flowing thought concerns taken care of with one neck item you're in too deep. All the other effects this item gives you are just more candy for the taking. If you're capped, don't worry about this item. Its that simple. If you have this item you more than likely have PoT9, SD, VoQ, FT15, AA's, and a mod rod at least half the time you're playing. I'm sitting at FT4 atm, and I think this is a great item. Just my 2cp
RE: sigh
# Jan 09 2004 at 4:40 AM Rating: Decent
Have either of you even seen the other stats? This neck, even minus the FT, is probably the best pre-time neck in the game even today. 100 total freeking resists on one item is insane. Especialy a neck slot which are normally not that impressive.
RE: sigh
# Oct 27 2003 at 7:33 PM Rating: Decent
First off, HP regen is capped at 35 for all classes and races.

Second, Casters get 4 hour KEI's and the like.

I've not in recent time have a halfway decent caster go OOM with little more than a KEI. Complaining about this is the least of EQ's balance problems.

Sorry to rant, but this string should be removed as irrelivent.

Kyvik Oom

#REDACTED, Posted: Oct 21 2003 at 8:57 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Mana regen and flowing thought are not the same thing. They stack.
RE: sigh
# Oct 23 2003 at 9:27 PM Rating: Decent
157 posts
Mana regen and flowing thought are not the same thing. They stack.


ALL WORN mana regens caps at 15. FT is just a spell name, worn mana regen stacks up to 15 regardless of what it is called.

so this DOES count towards the "ft cap".

at a fan faire a while back this was asked

What is the maximum flowing thought cap?

15. This includes all items that provide inherent mana regeneration, not just those labeled “Flowing Thought.” (e.g. The 8th Shawl)

NOTE: this was back when the 8th shawl did not have FT3, but when it had zephyr of brell as a 2pt mana regen spell.

Now if this were a right click effect it would be a different story.

so in summary:

ANY *WORN* Mana regen effects count directly on the FT cap. Any *CLICKED* Mana regen effects (For example, the emp spawl) will STACK with FT 15.

btw, worn hp regen also has a cap of 35

Edited, Thu Oct 23 22:18:01 2003
RE: sigh
# Nov 02 2003 at 8:33 PM Rating: Default
No, he's right. Unless there was a stealth nerf in the past month or two that I'm not aware of then FT and mana regen stack up to the maximum amount. I forget the amount of the top of my head since I haven't been concerned about it in a couple of months (I don't play my mage anymore), but they do stack. That's the reason for all of the items you see coming out of tier 4 and 5 that have effects with mana regen on them, but aren't aren't in the flowing thought category.

If I'm wrong then correct me, but I'd like to see some sort of parsing to prove to me that I'm wrong. At least link me to a thread on a message board where the testing's been done. FT and mana regen have stacked for a long, long time.

And by the way, you're quote from the fan faire was a while back. Back around the time PoP came out there were some changes to flowing thought, several of them, before Sony finally settled on a system that they liked. Like I said, I'm not saying it hasn't been changed again. I would just like to see the testing to prove it.
RE: sigh
# Dec 15 2003 at 6:21 AM Rating: Excellent
34 posts
Both right, just misunderstanding each other.

FT and other forms of mana regen stack - but only up to a maximum of 15 mana/tick from worn mana regen. Doesn't matter if all 15 points are from FT, or from some effect with another name, such as Blessing of Vah Kerrath. BVK *is* FT8.

Don't get hung up on names - mana regen doesn't have to be called FT to count towards the worn FT cap, and HP regen doesn't have to be called Regeneration to count towards the HP worn regen cap.

Edited, Sat Sep 25 19:23:13 2004
The turn in
# Oct 08 2003 at 12:00 PM Rating: Default
Here is a quicky for the quest to answer some questions that may come up. I know I had some. After you get the Essence from AHR, you take it to the skelly in UP guarded by the wolfs. My faction was Amiably to them when I did this. I just turned it in and go the neck. No collection of skulls or what have you was required. Just to be safe, make sure when you con him to make sure he cons amiable. If you need faction, kill in ME for faction. Good hunting

Lelandpain Eversow
65 Iksar Shaman
Sphere of Honor
Essence of Soul
# Sep 17 2003 at 1:46 AM Rating: Default
I count myself EXTREMELY FORTUNATE that OBSIDIAN COVEN allowed me this PRECIOUS item. I've gone over the quest and the Medallion is the same as the VT key, so obviously, all that is needed is the faction and do the turn in of the Soul Essence to Val Kerrath. Thank you Obsidian Coven for this awesome treasure.

Ashleighh Dhark
one LUCKY *** monk
Obsidian Coven
Cazic Thule Server

Edited, Wed Sep 17 03:17:34 2003
#REDACTED, Posted: Aug 04 2003 at 6:05 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Nice...
it is uber
# Jul 20 2003 at 11:30 AM Rating: Default
i also just got this item...but for the damage shield when i get hit...i dont see anything like soandso mob takes 8 points of damage..unless like it says it adds to like a damage shield that another person casts on you..but i just got it so just learning about it... anyways super duper nice item..cya at the fan faires
RE: it is uber
# Aug 04 2003 at 5:46 PM Rating: Default
399 posts
I dont think its a damage shield in and of itself. I think it increases a existing damage shield by 8. So, get a DS on you and compare with and without wearing it and Im certain you will see a difference.

RE: it is uber
# May 14 2004 at 6:53 PM Rating: Default
26 posts
That is my experience as well. I get no damage shield when only wearing the talisman, but if I cast Feedback on myself as well (normally an 11 point damage shield) I will have a 19 point damage shield (or 36 if I also become a fire elemental).
# Jul 13 2003 at 12:16 PM Rating: Default
i just got this the other night,and to me this is the best neck piece in EQ hands down UBAH. GL on trying to get this if u even get a chance to get in VT this is definately the one neck piece u want
# Jun 04 2003 at 3:28 PM Rating: Default
am I reading this post correctly? Does this guy say he has a 42 monk that got this item? I dont think so......

Leythos Templar
Paladin of <Oryx>
#REDACTED, Posted: May 29 2003 at 12:40 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I got lucky on my monk one day with my guild on me 42 monk :) Really lucky...well the effect's and stats are great for soloers...... well gotta go... Also got lucky on me robe of whistling fists.... that same week)
RE: ME Got
# Jun 14 2003 at 2:22 PM Rating: Decent
Well I hope you enjoy not having it equiped, it has a level 60 requirement even though it doesn't say it does.
One of the best items (armour) in the game for a Hybrid
# May 19 2003 at 7:20 AM Rating: Decent
29 posts
I am probably not the only person to spend idle moments scouring Allakhazam and Magelo for the ultimate items that would grace an ultimate charcter (in my case a paladin). Well I have done my best to find the best items for a paladin. He wears a full set of Trydan's armour and rejoices at wearing amongst other things this neck piece.

What I find astonishing, is that the hp and mana regen effect of this necklace is far superior to any other regen effect I have found on any other item wearable by a paladin. 8hp and 8mana regen per tick (worn effect)!!! If there is a better effect I have yet to come across it.

The biggest flaw in my thinking must be that I am currently a guild-less, level 38 paladin who solos quite a bit and who enjoys grouping but who has yet to experience anything approaching the "end of the game". Maybe one reason I am so impressed with the regen on this item is because I love soloing. Probably you will tell me that if I was uber enough to get this item I would not be soloing at all but would be neck-deep in guild activities almost all of which would be complex raids quite beyond my imagination.

Ah well, based on my current level of (in)experience, I would vote for this item being in my top 5 uber-est items for a paladin.

Well tell me what you think.

#REDACTED, Posted: Sep 12 2003 at 5:13 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I think you're full of crap. Show me the magelo account that has this listed for a 38 Paladin. It's no drop....
RE: One of the best items (armour) in the game for a Hybrid
# Sep 18 2003 at 9:17 PM Rating: Good
Umm he never said he had it... He was just drooling.
#REDACTED, Posted: Apr 26 2003 at 11:32 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) People Wake the heck up..I don't know what you are smoking but this item is way outdated. I have friend who destroyed this, because of new PoP loot, have u seen some of the stuff? This Talisman is as good as toilet paper, when you are constipated P
RE: Wake-up
# May 11 2003 at 7:09 PM Rating: Excellent
31 posts
Pardon me, but I think you need to re-evaluate a few things.

Show me a neck item, with any focus effect, that has +20 or better to all resists, 15 or better to all stats, 125 or better raw hp and mana. Please, show me one. While PoTime has not been farmed or explored yet with any detail, I have yet to see a single neck item that has this combination of solid stats. Now then, add to this 8 mana and 8 hp per tick regen, 20 attack (for you melee who may get this), and a throw in of 8 pts of ds and ultravsion, you have a neck item that you may not remove fore a long time coming.

Additionally, you mention getting improved damage items, mana preservation items, and the like instead of this... I want to ask you why? The rarity of the opportunity to get the essence for the neck makes it 100% worthwile spending points on (or whichever system you use). Imporved damage items, mana preservation items can be found from a pleathora of mobs. In truth, your friendly neighborhood mage can summon a baby version. Now then, if you have the choice of receieving this or the mask of secrets, lets say, I may choose the mask (depending on my needs).

It is true the Elemental Planes drops are very nice. Items with 150 and even higher raw mana make me drool. However, the Elemental Planes have not made VT items obsolete by any means.
RE: Wake-up
# Oct 09 2003 at 2:57 PM Rating: Decent" rel="external nofollow" title="">Talisman of the Elements

Thats about the only item I see beating Vah's or possible" rel="external nofollow" title="">Necklace of Eternal Visions depending on class. (Both plane of time items)

Other than That I agree with the sentiment of your post, VT gear still blows everything outside of Elementals out of the water, and situationally can be better than some plane of time gear. However with the recent addition of LDoN and augments there may end up being some changes to whats top end.
RE: Wake-up
# Apr 27 2003 at 3:40 PM Rating: Default
shutup go away. you're suffering from uberirocity superiortis.

most of us arent in uber super powerful guilds making this a very desirable item.
#REDACTED, Posted: Apr 30 2003 at 11:10 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Dude, You are way off Base....I'm just trying to educate the uneducated. There is no reason to get this item, except for bragging rites. If I'm going to make this statement on the Talisman, I need to give reasons, otherwise I'd look like a fool. Fool.
RE: Wake-up
# May 05 2003 at 12:47 PM Rating: Excellent
Gordong, I don't understand how you can say this necklace is crap. Now admittedly, like you said, if I had to choose between this and mana preservation, improved damage, and spell haste, well obviously I'd choose the three focus effects. That's a heck of a lot of extra damage.

But you say that you do 100k+ damage to a single raid mob. That means that you're spending well over your initial tank of 6k mana. And it's a fact that any caster can spend mana a heck of a lot faster than 50/tick. Which means that the limiting factor is your mana regen. If your mana regen was already 50/tick, then adding another 8/tick should increase your damage output by about 16 percent. Which is another 16k+ damage for that fight, just because of this amulet.

So while the amulet may be overpriced in terms of DKP for your guild, it's certainly not useless. I can only imagine replacing this with a focus effect that has a better than 16 percent effect (more or less depending on what your mana regen already is), and even then only if I couldn't get that focus effect anywhere else. And I certainly can't imagine destroying this.
RE: Wake-up
# Jul 04 2003 at 4:59 AM Rating: Good
guys....gordong is a troll. i'll bet any of the follwing are true:

he's a 12 year old kid
he's never seen the inside of VT, and if he has...
see the troll part. noone with 1/2937456397th of a brain can rationally argue this is crap.

the end.
RE: Wake-up
# Nov 25 2003 at 11:07 AM Rating: Decent
Don't forget to add that he's also a big fat liar.
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