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Wistful Tunic of the Void  

Charges: Unlimited
AC: 32
STR: +8 DEX: +8 STA: +25 WIS: +15 AGI: +25 HP: +100 MANA: +75 ENDUR: +75
SV FIRE: +15 SV COLD: +15 SV MAGIC: +15
Required level of 55.
Effect: Heart of the Void (Any Slot/Can Equip, Casting Time: 2.5)
WT: 1.0 Size: SMALL
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type 7 (General: Group)
Slot 2, Type 21 (Special Ornamentation)

Item Type:Armor
Color (RGB):22, 22, 22
Lucy Entry By:unknown
Item Updated By:SwiftyMUSE
IC Last Updated:2021-07-27 09:49:52
Page Updated:Thu Oct 9th, 2008

*This item is the result of a raid event.
Expansion: Shadows of Luclin Shadows of Luclin

Rarity: Very Rare
Level to Attain: 60

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This item is found on creatures.

Ssraeshza Temple
NPC Name
Vyzh`dra the Cursed

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Zone Name
Ssraeshza Temple

Uploaded July 15th, 2022 by halfridge
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Tell ya what...
# Jul 10 2004 at 4:58 AM Rating: Decent
Well here's the first post in six months on this item. Lemee tell ya - I'm in a guild that is freshly Elemental, I myself lack 1 flag for SRT and elementals.. and when we killed Cursed tonight, while waiting for a few more for Emp (need to VT key some probies/ALTs) this lovely tunic dropped.
I waffled for a long time on whether or not to bid my DKP on this tunic - in the end I told the Officer taking tells for the item, that I'd bid if no monks wanted it. I'm a Druid.
Turns out I was the only one - it went for ROT and I got it at a bargain.
Lemee tell ya something else - I was wearing an Ornate Leather Tunic (which sucks except for the clicky regen) and let me break down the benfits for you....

Going from Ornate Leather Tunic to Wistful Tunic of the Void this is what changes:

+61 Hit Points
+13 AC
-20 Mana

+15 STA
+16 AGI
+2 WIS (though maxxed @ 330 WIS with IE5)
+8 DEX
-5 CHA

-10 PR
+5 MR
-7 DR
+9 FR
+8 CR

An all of this is BEFORE the clicky effect (+225 HP +40 MR/CR)
NOT THE 250 lots have posted.

Would you rather have ornate or this?
Yeah, it's 2 years old ewber gear - but frankly - once I was sure Monks and BSTs didn't need it - I was happy to take it.

I now have 271 STA unbuffed, and have cracked 3K HP and 1050 AC - WITHOUT self buffs like 9s and Brackencoat. Just wait until I get ND3 =)

Edited, Sat Jul 10 06:29:18 2004
RE: Tell ya what...
# Jul 10 2004 at 5:06 AM Rating: Decent

Edited, Sat Jul 10 06:19:48 2004
Should have gone to rot.
# Jan 29 2004 at 5:07 PM Rating: Decent
Well, im sure at one time this tunic was one of the nicest BPs in the game for Beastlord or any other leather-wearing class for that matter, but it aint no more.

Made the mistake of spending dkp on it because I thought it looked badass only to find out that the clicky buff DOES NOT stack with Focus or Kragg's although it will stack with IoS. Net effect is less overall hp's for me on raids personally when compared to the upper end LDoN GUK BP (Mucus-drenched Tunic) with a 40 hp aug thrown in it. Even with self buffs, I end up with more HP's so I guess its only usefulness is the added resists, assuming it stacks with Ferocity (havent tried yet) and maybe the fact that its practically an insta-clicky.

If this is an upgrade for you by all means get it, especially compared to a PSC or Wild Lords .. but the LDoN stuff properly augmented is far superior.
# Dec 31 2003 at 3:50 PM Rating: Decent
#REDACTED, Posted: Jan 26 2003 at 9:30 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) This is soooooo a druid tunic. If ANY monk gets this before every druid in their guild has one, they need to be slapped, and hard. You guys have fungi's, and Lungi's, and wyvern tunics. THe best thing we have that could even try to compare is Tunic of kinship, which STILL sucks compared to what monks get.
RE: Um...
# May 10 2003 at 9:31 PM Rating: Default
Just saw this post and Whyme, your a ******. I would rather have more hp then regen especially when pulling the AL guards. A 15 pt regen is gonna do jack and **** when all 8 are kicking your ***.
RE: Um...
# Jun 20 2003 at 7:24 AM Rating: Default
well i can tell you as a Beastlord this is the second best Tunic in the game just under the Dumuls tunic..
I can use EVERY stat on this Tunic bigtime..

and the 25sta+ 100HPs for me at least would give me 224HPs because of ND3/PE...
I can use the 32AC cuz most Beastlord Tunics are sorely lacking in AC..
the 15 Wis 75 Mana is killer.
the 25AGI is outstanding..

as for the effect since no self respecting Shaman would dare cast Focus a Beastlord in the first place, even if dont know any better an do i immediately click it off and rebuff, then it actually gives me a great HP boost this tunic would give me 500HPs plus 40 magic and 40 cold and the effect stacks with all my buffs..

This tunic could be a nice upgrade for all 3 classes, but in reality would be best for a Beastlord, then second a Monk, then a Druid. so BOTH of you need to STFU..heh

Edited, Fri Jun 20 07:48:00 2003
RE: Um...
# Sep 27 2003 at 7:21 PM Rating: Decent
I'm 65 and on raids I only use focus, cause my stats (minus agil) are maxed with focus whereas my buffs do the same just take up 3 extra slots and when you need resists/ac buffs/crap buffs etc those slots REALLY count
RE: Um...
# Jul 16 2003 at 7:17 AM Rating: Good
To quote:

"no self respecting Shaman would dare cast Focus a Beastlord in the first place, even if dont know any better an do i immediately click it off and rebuff,"

Ummm.... and what level is your beastlord twink now? Clearly you have aquite a ways before you reach raiding level, or you wouldn't talk as if it were natural to waste 4 buff slots on the effect shamans (shamen?) can give you in only one slot.

At 65, I have to pay close attention to keep a buff slot open so I can use my haste/ATK AA, and proc Avatar, and still have room for Ferocity. Healers are alway complaining because they can't lant heal over time spells on me, as it is. So, the very idea of replacing Focus of the 7th with my own buffs, is ludicrous.

Also, ever noticed that focus has more than twice the duration of any of your own buffs? How productive are you to a raid (or even an XP group) when you have to sit on yer **** and rebuff more than twice as often?

Level that BST twink up a bit, so you can post with a bit more realistic view of your class in real context.

Elder CrocHuntah!
Feral Lord
RE: Um...
# Jul 18 2003 at 10:03 AM Rating: Default
Actually YOU are incorrect, focus lasts 1h 20m the 2 buffs BL use are Kragg and IoS both last 1hr 12min. you are right about buff slots for raiding to a certain point, its roughly 2 extra slots for BL buffs (dex and ios and kragg=Focus, strength will be maxed with fero so you dont cast that on yourself) When raiding it's just more efficient to have Focus on as you said but you gave some misinformation as well BTW have a 65 BL and a 63 shaman so I have an idea of what im saying :P
RE: Um...
# Nov 16 2003 at 1:27 PM Rating: Decent
Well lets see.. on my 65 bst during raids i use the following (including shammy buffs): Frenzy, Focus, Agi, Sta... the shammy sta does not max me, because unlike most bst i focus on agi more than sta (i can selfmax my sta so why waste it on gear if i cant buff my own agi)

Soloing or no shammy: Frenzy, IoS, Kragg, Stamina, Dexterity, Strength...

I dont use ferocity on a regular basis because it only lasts 9mins and uses up a crapload of mana.. I only cast it on the MA before boss kills

Frenzy - 20mins
IoS - 1hr 12mins
Kragg - 1hr 12mins
Dexterity - 1hr
Stamina - 1hr
Furious Strength - 54mins

I also have 20% extensions on all buffs so mine actually last longer.. but basically once an hour i have to rebuff.. Focus gives me 4 extra slots to play with... which gives more room for extra buffs and temp buffs like hot/ds/whatever.... I can selfbuff myself with more hps and better stats than any shammy can... but for the extra slots i'll sacrifice 50hps and a little sta... to me ferocity is a waste of mana and slot unless i'm tanking a dragon or something... in which case sure i'll spend that mana..

for the newbs: ferocity = sta40, atk150, 60all saves, sta regen

there is no dex.. no strength.. it does however stack with everything i've run accross..

stats unbuffed:
172str, 201sta, 212agi, 200dex, 168wis

(btw.. Vyzh`dra the Cursed, I'll have to come dig my claws in your hide, cuz i'd give my tail for that tunic!)

Scaledfang - 65 Elder Iksar Beastlord
RE: Um...
# Jan 23 2005 at 3:00 AM Rating: Decent
18 posts
I'm a 62 bst and have savagery and think it's pretty useful dunno mana cost on ferocity but it isn't bad on savagery and i use it often in WoS or BoT or any place where i could end up being sa on a named fight, that's mainly what i use it for, emergency hp, resists and attack when taking down named things.
#REDACTED, Posted: Dec 18 2003 at 6:37 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Ok i have a 65 bst time flagged and i alway s use focus over self buffs. I think you do not now how you play your character if you are 65 and use self buffs over focus.
RE: Um...
# Jul 06 2003 at 11:46 AM Rating: Default
As a Beastlord i woudl love love love this tunic. however i wouldnt call it second best ;) check out the Ancient Burrowerhide tunic as well as the Vest of the Fire tyrant to name a couple that are better than this lovely lovely tunic
RE: Um...
# Apr 02 2003 at 4:58 PM Rating: Good
To avoid just flaming you, the classes which may wear this Tunic all benefit from the bonuses it provides.

Just because you're partial doesn't mean each class doesn't deserve a chance at it.
RE: Um...
# Jan 29 2003 at 6:38 AM Rating: Default
Ok, to state the obvious, you're dumb whyme. People like you shouldn't even be playing this game let alone speaking your mind. See the three classes that can wear it. I don't think any would turn it down unless they happen to have better. Druids would like it because it has raw mana/hps and 15wis. Likewise with the Beastlords. They wouldn't be using it for the effect though. They have their own self buffs. I doubt many monks would turn this down either. A fungi is nice cause of the regen and well, maybe the 2str... Hell no. The stats far exceed the 15 pt regen as I stated earlier. If this dropped and I had the chance to get it, I would. I'd stuff the fungi in a bag and use it situationally and wear this tunic most of the time. Fighting the Arch Lich is a good example. The more hp regen you have, the less mana you have to drain from a druid, shaman, cleric healing you. And one last point. The lungi is a 39% haste robe from ST and doesn't have regen. Compared to this, the Ancient Wyvern hide tunic is crap.

Eier Kopf
64 Grandmaster of Quellios
Cold Fury

Edited, Wed Jan 29 06:12:49 2003
RE: Um...
# Feb 04 2003 at 10:41 PM Rating: Default
Heh, I should have stopped reading your idiotic statement after the first sentence. First off, this dropped tonight for my guild, and even though 3 monks could have outbid me, they all obviously decided not to bid, and I won the tunic. OBVIOUSLY, they either a) thought it would better suit a druid or b) have better. Most of them are wearing fungi's and lungi's. Second of all, the effect stacks with everything but focus. This effect owns when soloing, when those 250 hps can make a difference, and you dont have the luxury of shaman buffs. And finally,if your in a raid guild, and your pulling basically all the time, the regen off a fungi will serve much more use then the 250 hp that you would most likely have overwritten with focus anyways.
Please, come back when you know what the **** your talking about, and your guild can do something a bit higher then Al, kthxbye.
RE: Um...
# Feb 13 2003 at 9:44 AM Rating: Decent
STFU and go back to crushbone Mr. Anonymous.

HP > all for monks. This has 150-200 raw hp. Add effect and it's 375-425hp. Not to mention 25agi and nice resists. You also talk like druids are the only ones that could use the effect. Is there always a shaman in an exp group that the effect will get canceled? NO. STFU. Fungi became next to useless for monks when they nerfed mitigation so we couldn't solo. Pulling anything worthwhile and taking a few hits, monks will certainly need a real heal. STFU. If monk and tank work well together then monk won't get hit at all, thus fungi = useless once again. I'd rather have the greater HP / AC / resist / agi in case i DO get hit, than regen and -10agi. STFU.

Regardless. This item is useful for all classes listed if it's an upgrade. Bid on and win or lose.

Maybe the monks that didn't outbid you had better or didn't have the points to spend, or maybe they did so because they didn't want to hear you *****, moan and whine for the next 6 months. Either way. Gratz. Now STFU!!

Kulman Fistticuffs
Transcendent of Ayonae Ro

Edited, Thu Feb 13 09:25:50 2003
RE: Um...
# Feb 18 2003 at 6:53 PM Rating: Default
Wow, such an intelligent and thought out post. I was impressed that you managed to fit in all of those "words" and "sentences" between the STFU's. Must have taken you quite a while, eh?

This is really a moot point. I have spoken with my guild monks, and they have told me that fungi regen > wistful tunic. Most of them already cap out their stamina anyways. Most of them are saving for lunar fungus, which is arguably the best monk chest slot item in the game.

Tell me, have you ever pulled the guards guarding AL room? The regen over time will always outmatch the hps the tunic will give.

I do find it funny though, that you are telling me to go back to CB, when my guild is doing emp/cursed, and yours is still at xtc. Missed out on that little tidbit of information, eh? Now please STFU. :)

As for FT... Ft is overrated. Hell, my elemental bracers have ft 4 on them, and my guild is at most 2 months from the elemental planes. Why the heck would i waste dkp on a chest slot with FT when i will easily hit the cap in a few months? The closest tunic for a druid outside of pop/VT is burrower tunic, and the 50 mana/hp just blows imo. That is more of a cleric tunic.

I love my tunic, and I am glad that the monks in my guild have some F'n sense, unlike *some monks*, and allowed the druids to recieve these first. Not going to be posting under this thread anymore, so continue your rant if you so desire. I dont really give a crap :)
RE: Um...
# Feb 18 2003 at 11:37 PM Rating: Decent
Lol. I'm not in a guild, but the one I am apped to has done cursed and 2 tunic dropped. I was there. One monk and one druid got them. And who cares if you're doin Emp also? This item drops off Cursed. Get your facts straight before you speak or STFU!

Okay. Now that Mr. Itsadruiditem (who won't tell level / guild / server) is gone...

Fellow monks,

Don't be dissuaded by this silly drood's post. This is definitely a monk worthy item. Take it if you can and don't have better. Tuck your Fungi away for situational use like AL. This is definitely a better every day item than a Fungi.

Kulman Fistticuffs
Transcendent of Ayonae Ro
#REDACTED, Posted: Mar 09 2003 at 1:38 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) First off I'll say your wrong. The tunic isn't that good period if you're a level 65 monk. Level 65 monks can't solo PERIOD. Anything that's blue and good experience is in tier 2+ of PoP and most of that **** hits for 400+. This tunic gives 100 hp + 100 hp from the stamina for 200 hp and that's assuming you haven't hit your stamina cap yet which is REALLY easy to do. This tunic = half a hit from a PoP mob. The effect is damn near useless cause in a group in Tactics/elementals etc. you are basically always grouped with a shaman cause these mobs beat *** and they need to be slowed. Focus of the 7th > the effect on this tunic. As I stated in a previous posts I let druids loot these tunics back when Cursed was actually a priority for my guild and I will continue to hold out until we are looting elemental tunics in the PoTime.
RE: Um...
# Mar 09 2003 at 6:57 PM Rating: Excellent
I'm going to correct one point made here in this thread that was completely wrong. You don't gather HPs to solo, you need HP to survive AE damage. Learn the game please.
RE: Um...
# Feb 08 2003 at 10:49 AM Rating: Decent
why would a druid in a guild that can take out cursed want this anyway, it doesn't have any mana regen /shrug
RE: Um...
# Mar 02 2003 at 5:17 PM Rating: Default
574 posts
Hehe its nice to see a friendly posting session, anyways just to say i would be more than welcome to receive this when my guild is big enough to go there for my 54BL, the extra hp's would be more than welcome when i solo and since BL's arent open to Fungi's that option isnt open to us.

gratz to those who have it, bigger grats to those who have better. you have more than likely worked hard for it. i have only just got a PSC and i got that from hunting in DN unlike those who buy it, gives you a bigger sense of satisfaction IMHO.
The Real Iksar

you're intellegent
# Jan 16 2003 at 11:33 PM Rating: Default
Not to flame you too badly Cyclonus but you're not to intellegent. I'd wear a fungi if I was on a CR or soloing. However, the stats on this tunic far exceed the 15pt regen that the fungi gives you. On a raid, the 25sta and 100hps combined w/ ND3 and physical enhancement would net you well over 200hps. And possibly more than that. If you don't have maxxed stats this is a huge piece to have. I'd float this as well as any other fungi wearing monk I know. Think about what you say next time.

Eier Kopf
63 Grandmaster of Quellious
Cold Fury

Edited, Wed Jan 29 05:37:58 2003
This tunic is NOT THAT GREAT =)
# Dec 13 2002 at 3:07 PM Rating: Decent
I hate to say it but you can go to Sebilis and camp the King and get a tunic that's better than this (for a monk). My guild kills Cursed and we've gotten 5 of these tunics sofar. 4 went to druids and 1 went to a monk who didn't have a Fungi. The first problem with this is the effect. It doesn't stack with the Shielding line or the shaman Focus spell. If your guild raids a lot you're always gonna have Focus on, making the effect nearly useless. Then the only thing about the tunic that's really nice is the 200 hps and 32+ ac you'll get from it. This tunic was nice for monk back in the Luclin era when we could actually tank stuff (the higher your base hps the better tank you are). This tunic was better than Fungi if you were being complete healed. Sadly in the PoP era stuff his way too hard for monks to solo at all, and we sure as hell can't tank unless the mob is slowed. So sadly this tunic falls behind a Fungi, which over time will heal a lot more of your hps than the 200 which this tunic gives. This tunic and the Ancient Wyvern tunic from ToV only have one real use for monks, pulling. When we pull you need as many hps as you can to survive. The uber mobs have such a huge dps you don't live long enough for the +15 regen on the Fungi to help much. I will continue to pass on these tunics until every druid has one that wants one, then maybe I'll loot it if it's gonna rot. You all may think I'm crazy but the rest of the monks in my guild agree. This tunic has very situational useage for a monk.
RE: This tunic is NOT THAT GREAT =)
# May 13 2003 at 3:35 PM Rating: Default
Fungi Sucks. And idiot using a fungi over this (if they had the option of the two) is a goddamn idiot.

15pt Regen woopee <<<<< the MUCH better ac/stats
Stacking issues
# Nov 29 2002 at 2:10 AM Rating: Decent
OK, so I've read comments on here (flames and all, although I avoided the flames once I saw 'em coming) and I have a question (it was asked and answered, but I want verification for some reason or other):

Does the effect stack with other MR and CR buffs? GRM and CoS in particular...just curious.
#REDACTED, Posted: Oct 18 2002 at 4:55 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) If you want to quit EQ because somehwere you SERIOUSLY know it is messing up your life. Play legends for one month, 90k for fleshgrinder a deal, 450k for a sod wow what a deal i mean 100k is only 300 dollars usd, erm.......i 3 weeks of camping
Nice tunic
# Sep 04 2002 at 2:33 PM Rating: Default

I would understand if dr00ds went in on this too

Rocco Irontoe
60th Hierophant
Mithaniel Marr
# Aug 03 2002 at 5:43 PM Rating: Default
the question is does the effect add the hp to your max AND current or just to max. if it is the first then this item owns every fungi 250 hp in 2.5 sec click time = 600 hp regen per tick
RE: hmm
# Nov 23 2002 at 11:53 PM Rating: Good
300 posts
I don't have this item, but I'd have to say it does not raise current as well as max HP. If I remember correctly, in order for current to be raised as well as HP, it has to say it in the spelldat file. As in:

Raise total HP by 225
Raise current HP by 225

Something like that. I believe it says just that for spells like Aego and the druid/ranger skin series. 225 HP with a 2.5 second cast is *way* too powerful.
# Jul 15 2002 at 11:46 PM Rating: Excellent
Anyone know if this stacks with the shielding series? Like dains hammer effect Arch Shielding - if it does a monk can self buff 375hp 60mr 27ac with 2 spells - thats not bad but i bet it doesnt stack
RE: stacking
# Jan 23 2003 at 4:07 AM Rating: Decent
Heart of the Void does not stack with the INT caster Shielding line or the Shaman Focus line.
#REDACTED, Posted: Jul 04 2002 at 12:41 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) my monk could really use this
RE: monky
# Jul 15 2002 at 3:08 AM Rating: Decent
and your point ?????
#REDACTED, Posted: Jun 15 2002 at 5:05 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Personally for a beastlord this is Junk, I have seen 4 of these rot because it does not stack with some buffs.
# Aug 31 2002 at 7:54 PM Rating: Decent
I seriously hope your a high level thats trying to make a joke, but if not....

You are a fvcking level 35 noob posting bullsh!t on a message board. (non vt)This is the very best monk BP in the game(excluding shroud of longevity, which is no longer available on most servers) and also the best beast tunic too; fvck the effect, it is a bonus while soloing.

The simple fact that you are actually talking about AC while claiming to be in a Cursed capable guild shows what a dumbass you are, pretty much anyone in a cursed capable guild reached their AC soft cap long ago, let alone most people don't give a **** about reaching it in the first place because HP is king.

And again this post is total trash because I very highly doubt there has been 1 server where that many of these tunics have even dropped, not to mention for one guild, and it would never rot.

So go back to your OT ledge group and stop posting ******** on allakhzams newb.

Edited, Sat Aug 31 20:42:44 2002
monks should have better?
# Jun 14 2002 at 8:52 PM Rating: Default
Um This here is either THE BEST or second best bp in the game for monks that drops currently. I would say It is the best for a monk and I would also like to say that fungus tunic is very very very over rated really only good for a twink item for n00bs under 50
# Jun 08 2002 at 5:50 PM Rating: Default

Yeah its a nice tunic, chances are if you can kill him your monks should already have much better. Its a toss up between DRU/BST on who should really get. As far as tunics go this definately isn't the best one in the game for any class listed though it is pretty nice.
RE: druids/bst/monks...
# Aug 31 2002 at 8:00 PM Rating: Decent
Ok, your stupid..

WTF is better than this for monks, huh?

Not a god damn thing(excluding shroud of longevity, which is no longer obtainable on most servers) so plzstfuandgodieirlplzthxla~
RE: druids/bst/monks...
# Jun 09 2002 at 11:58 PM Rating: Good
Uh, wrong.

This is easily the best available Monk chest slot. Ancient Wyvern Hide has 8 more AC, but nowhere NEAR the stats of this thing. 25 STA should provide about 100 hitpoints... on top of the 100 hitpoints already on the thing ... and then add to that the 225 hitpoints from the heart of the void effect. 425 added hitpoints, which is gigantic, particularly for monks whose biggest liability as a melee is low hitpoints. You could give this to a BST as well, but it would be a total waste for a druid - 15 WIS and 75 Mana is nice, but the real feature on this thing is the added HPs (and the +55 to SVM and SVC might come in handy).

(Dont believe me that this is the best monk chest slot? Do a search by slot and narrow to monk - unless the database here is woefully incomplete, its really no contest).

RE: druids/bst/monks...
# Jun 11 2002 at 12:05 AM Rating: Default
/hug Fungi tunic

If it doesn't have fungal regrowth... it is not truly a monk tunic.

Luckily it seems Verant has finally introduced another fungal regrowth chest item that doesn't suck, for us residents of dead sleeper servers.
RE: druids/bst/monks...
# Jun 08 2002 at 7:56 PM Rating: Decent
the effect adds 250hp to your total HP if this stacks with ageo im sure the monks on this raid wont have better.
# Jun 07 2002 at 3:52 PM Rating: Decent
Wow VERY nice tunic! I wouldn't mind getting one! But I think I would let the monk and beastlord get first crack at this baby! They would deserve it more than me...i mean...i'm no tank! :D

Menolas Urbanwolf <Epic>
55 Preserver

Sumedan <Epic>
45 Warrior
RE: wow...nice
# Jun 07 2002 at 5:51 PM Rating: Good
ya, look at EQ and you'll see this is (i believe...) the highest AC tunic BST have avaible, previous being only 25 ac (COMON, even for a hybred, thats pathetic, VI).
RE: wow...nice
# Jun 07 2002 at 7:38 PM Rating: Default
pathetic? they're a leather class...
RE: wow...nice
# Jun 08 2002 at 12:59 PM Rating: Decent
a nerfed leather class thank you..even beastlords canot wear the higher ac LEATHER armor that even a monk could wear AND beastlords do NOT get the ac bonuses of monks..only reason beastlords were made a leather class is to keep them from outdamaging the monk since they will take more damage and main point of damnage is form thier pets..bout time they got something for beastlords..too bad it takes a boss mob of this scale to get it :(
RE: wow...nice
# Aug 31 2002 at 8:08 PM Rating: Decent
"only reason beastlords were made a leather class is to keep them from outdamaging the monk"

Yes, because we all know the type of armor you wear makes you do more damage...

But get real, who gives a flying fvck about AC anyways?(and if a beastlord is getting hit, they are doing something WRONG) It isn't like its hard to reach your soft cap no matter what class you are, especially if you are even thinking about doing cursed.

And get this beastlords are NOT a melee class, when it comes to actual figthing, they are equal to BARDS, but they have high dmging pets, thats where a beastlords dmg comes from, and some useful spells while soloing. So WTF would you expect 50ac BPs to be falling out of the sky, let alone care if you are a beastlord?

Edited, Sat Aug 31 20:58:04 2002
RE: wow...nice
# Nov 26 2002 at 7:20 PM Rating: Decent
Actually AC can help you do more damage. The lower your AC the more healing you are going to need, period. So for a beastlord that solos(or tanks a lot when grouping with casters), if their AC is low they will need to back off and heal during fights. Backing off during fights to bandage and heal yourself takes away DPS (damage per second) from fighting. So yes, higher AC can help you do more damage.

Skratchen Myitchin
56 Vah Shir Animist
RE: wow...nice
# Jun 08 2002 at 8:11 PM Rating: Default
this is because they arent supposed to tank, they arent really a melee class... they are more of a pet class seeing as almost all of their buffs are meant for their pet, not them. not having double attack is another example that they arent a true melee class, but a class with one of the best pets.

RE: wow...nice
# Nov 26 2002 at 7:26 PM Rating: Decent
I beg to differ on Beastlord tanking. My beastlord at level 56 has over 1050AC, and I can be the main tank for most exp groups just fine. And no, beastlords are not going to be MT's for a major raid, but decently equiped, we can tank for experience groups all the way from lvl 1 to 65.

Skratchen Myitchin
56 Vah Shir Animist
RE: wow...nice
# Nov 11 2002 at 10:56 AM Rating: Default
none of you seem to realize a beastlords pet is only about 50% of his total dmg output
RE: wow...nice
# Aug 31 2002 at 8:07 PM Rating: Decent
Kitkoran, once you reach the high end game, you'll realize that AC to a class that doesnt Have to get hit doesnt mean crap. Beastlords shoudln't be concerned with AC, because it really doesn't matter to them in any situation except soloing (and they have pets to take hits for them with soloing). Even if this tunic DID go to a Bst over a monk (for one reason or another), in a situation where a beastlord would be getting hit, the marginal ac difference between this and other tunics would not save them 25sta and 100hp worth of hp, so it really doesn't mean anything. This BP is unbelievable for Monks, amazing for bsts, and good for druids. So quit complaining about a useless stat like AC and learn what stats matter before posting and making yourself look like a noob.
Beastlords Rejoice
# Jun 07 2002 at 7:56 AM Rating: Decent
Well even though this is prolly not attainable by 99.5% of the Beastlords it is still nice to see. Beastlord have very few options and 32 ac is better than my tunic, legs, arms, and boots combined.
# Jun 07 2002 at 4:46 AM Rating: Default
they should put another stat in there like," recommended uber guild" for this kinda stuff.Basicaly the only way your gonna get an item like this.
Strange effect...
# Jun 06 2002 at 10:08 PM Rating: Default
I have to wonder how well this effect (+225 hp, +40 MR, +40 CR) stacks with spells like Aegolism, the Symbol line, Circle of Summer & others.

As for why Druids are on it... well, those are the three "Leather" classes. ;)
RE: Strange effect...
# Jun 07 2002 at 5:07 AM Rating: Good

The effect stack with all others buffs but the focus shaman buff spell :)

RE: Strange effect...
# Jun 07 2002 at 12:45 PM Rating: Good
If it will not stack with Shaman focus it will also not stack with Talisman, Shielding, blessed armor line either. Some items with these procs would be preferable, Staff Of Shielding comes to mind - but probably not used by a monk in a position to acquire this item =)
RE: Strange effect...
# Jun 07 2002 at 1:31 PM Rating: Decent
I think you need to look up the stats on the proc on the SoS, friend. This has more health, a ton more MR, a lot of CR (shielding line has none) the only thing it's missing is the little bit of AC the SoS proc adds. Plus, don't forget, this is a click, not a proc. You don't have to sit in combat and hope this effect sticks on ya. The shielding line does not increase current health so it's not useful as a ghetto heal.

This tunic >>> SoS

Anyways, 100 health and 25 sta on this thing? Not many items can give you more of a health increase than that even without the effect. AC aint bad either.
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