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Blessed Coldain Prayer Shawl  

AC: 8
STA: +8 CHA: +8 WIS: +8 INT: +8 HP: +50 MANA: +50
Mana Regeneration: +3
Focus: Zephyr of Brell
WT: 2.0 Size: SMALL
Class: ALL
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type 7 (General: Group)

Item Type:Armor
Light:Stein of Moggok
Lucy Entry By:rale
Item Updated By:SwiftyMUSE
IC Last Updated:2021-12-30 13:41:24
Page Updated:Tue Dec 1st, 2020

Expansion: Shadows of Luclin Shadows of Luclin

Rarity: Common
Level to Attain: 55

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Coldain Shawl #8: Blessed Coldain Prayer Shawl


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Quest Name
Coldain Shawl 2.0 #1: Still Hungry

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2 groups
# Oct 25 2003 at 6:22 PM Rating: Decent
We did this today with twelve people. The average level of the raid was 62 and we didn't have much of a problem at all. We got two Tracking Wolf Collars and two Velium Spiked Mallets.
FT stacking
# Aug 20 2003 at 11:08 AM Rating: Default
Ok this stacking thing is all new to me. I have never heard of a limit on FT and never seen anythign published on stacking. Can you please tell me where you got this information? If items dotn stack then that is just total nonsense. There are damn few items out there as it is with ANY flowing though on them. Now you are telling me if I get 5 FT 1 items I only have FT1 TOTAL? That is just insanely stupid. Obviously if yo ucan only have one of each the limit is NOT 15 becasue there are FT 6 items that I have seen adn I beleive FT 7 so the limit is either 21 or 28. So i know the information on the limit being 15 is wrong. IS the information on stacking of items with the same FT number also wrong?
RE: FT stacking
# Aug 20 2003 at 11:16 AM Rating: Excellent
3,705 posts
First, FT 1 stacks with FT 1. If you have 7th shawl, and choker, of the wretched, and the solstice earring, you have a total of FT3. Supposedly, at one of the EQ conventions, the developers mentioned a cap on TOTAL FT items of 15. And yes there are items with FT higher than 5. However, if you have 3 items with FT7, you don't get 21 mana regen from it, you only get 15.
RE: FT stacking
# Aug 21 2003 at 12:54 PM Rating: Good
Ok now that makes sense. So you can have for example 2 FT3, 1 FT6 and 3 FT1 items for your 15 total. The guy who posted about items with the same FT number not stacking was just full of crap, huh? Dont you just hate it when people post false info like they actually know what they are talking about. Pretty seriously bad thing to do as peopel could then base their item choices on this info and be makign all the wreong choicees. That is what I almost did. I was debating whether or not to make the Ornate Boots. When I heard that FT3 from this shawl and from the Boots of Flowing Slime didnt stack I was leaning towrads dumping slime boots and getting the ornate ones. But if the two FT3s stack no way I want those Ornate boots. People need to be a lot more careful about what they post. Fortunately I am careful enoughnot to make any decisions until I have thoroughly investigated. :-)
RE: FT stacking
# Nov 20 2003 at 12:57 PM Rating: Decent
111 posts
He wasn't completelly incorrect though, just out of date. At one time FT with the same amount didn't stack, they however do now up to a total of 15 in any combination, so pretty sure he wasn't trying to fool anyone deliberatelly. From what I have read and heard this also includes other worn mana regen effects. So in fact it isn't just your total FT cap that is 15, it would be more appropriate to say your total Worn Mana Regen caps at 15, from FT or any other effect. Feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
RE: FT stacking
# Nov 23 2003 at 6:39 PM Rating: Default
That used to be true .. but it was changed .. Mana Regen spells will now stack with FT to get you over the Mana regen old limit of 15. Several things effect your manaregen .. Meditate (get a focus effect with added % to mana and you will see a small difference) is one .. buffs (bard songs and kei and etc) is another .. and gear is the third.

Originally you had to have FT1, FT2, 3, 4 ,5 to get FT 15 (1+2+3+4+5) .. to hard for players to get so they changed it so all FT stacks till you reach FT15 (over 15 is ignored) .. any player with FT15 will tell you that having KEI or other mind candy shows an obvious increase in mana regen so that way you can see that Buffs will stack with items .. the same way that KEI stacks with bard mana songs, Pot9, Cat Nip .. etc.

65 chanter
The Rathe

58 cleric
The Rathe

Edited, Sun Nov 23 18:40:22 2003
RE: FT stacking
# Jan 05 2004 at 5:53 PM Rating: Decent
You forgot one other thing that can effect your mana regen. casters get MC (Mental Clarity) and for each point in MC they have it counts like a point of FT. Whether or not it effects whether you can still have FT items stacked all the way to 15 as well as MC3 is beyond me...noone seems to be able to answer that question for me. But the four things that can effect your mana regen are buffs, aas, Meditate and gear.
RE: FT stacking
# Jan 29 2004 at 11:38 AM Rating: Good
3,705 posts
FT stacks to 15. MC3 stacks with that, giving you 18. You can then stack on one of KEI/Tranq/VoQ, plus BL crack, plus PoT9, plus bard mana song. There may be others that also stack, but those are the ones I have had.

Hop on a horse/drogmor, and you're a mana battery.
RE: FT stacking
# May 02 2004 at 8:40 PM Rating: Good
114 posts
I am also finding that druids' self mana regen buff, Mask of Hunter/Stalker/Forest will also stack on top of the FT items, KEI/VoQ/Tranq, Po9's/PotC/G, and Kitty crack. At level 60, with FT6 through items, KEI, and my own PotC and Mask of the Hunter, my mana regen is very good indeed.
What will not stack, of our own mana buffs, is From of Howler/Hunter, and Spirit of Ash/Oak. But since Mask of Hunter is +3 mana regen, and so is the wolf forms, and the tree form is I think +2, doesn't really matter.
RE: FT stacking
# Jul 27 2004 at 4:06 AM Rating: Decent
64 posts
Form of the Howler is +2 Mana regen, but Form of the Hunter has no mana regen, specifically so it will stack with Mask of the Hunter (or, of course, Mask of the Stalker, which is identical, except it can be cast indoors).

Spirit of Ash is +2 Mana regen, Oak is +4.

But yes, in general, druid self-only buffs with mana regen will not stack with each other. They also, incidentally, will not stack with the enchanter spells Gift of Insight or Gift of Brilliance, which give a small mana regen, and a mana pool increase.
#REDACTED, Posted: Jul 17 2003 at 7:41 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) got this today on my shaman in Sol Ro server! W00t!
RE: W00t
# Aug 21 2003 at 12:17 AM Rating: Default
I am at a loss to understand this. How do you get to Tailoring 212 with "silks and swatches"? That is a LOT of Ice Silks :) Lesse - at roughly 20 attempts per skillup, you had gathered 50-60 *stacks* of Ice Burrower swatches to push above the magic 158? Hrmm - sounds like I'm hitting the BS buzzer on this one :p

I'm not bothering with the 20 stacks of padding (to 188), or the 240 stacks of no drops for the rest of the smithing :)
RE: W00t
# Aug 21 2003 at 12:03 PM Rating: Excellent
3,705 posts
Raw silk, Cured Silk, Wus, then Solstice robes.
RE: W00t
# Aug 22 2003 at 3:00 PM Rating: Default
Right-o. Fergot about that method above 158, sry. Don't have the cash.

Holy smokes! I didn't notice until now - the expensive part (gem-studded chain) - is RETURNED on failure! W00t; tailoring skillups, here I come, LoL

Edited, Fri Aug 22 16:03:20 2003
Skilling up
# Oct 14 2003 at 11:50 PM Rating: Decent
Thank you, thank you, thank you. I have been looking for a way to max tailoring at a reasonable cost for ages. Flawless rockhopper 250p each - no thanks. I have a GM potter and a GM JC alt so recon I can do the silks at 100p a go - which is affordable and yes I will be praying for failures hehe. Even the successes I can sell for enough plat to cover the losses. Brilliant!!!! GM tailor here I come.
RE: W00t
# Sep 04 2003 at 4:17 PM Rating: Excellent
3,705 posts
Yep, solstice robes are one of the few skillup items that the person ends up praying for failures, as you can do a full stack of swatches cheaper than one gem-studded chain. So even if skillup rate is lower on failures, you still skill cheaper if you fail all the robes.
RE: W00t
# Jan 16 2004 at 5:26 PM Rating: Default
Heh, yeah now we pray for items with -% tailoring =P
Items with negative Tailoring percentages
# Jul 26 2004 at 12:43 PM Rating: Excellent
In order to fail more often heres what you can do:
1. Decrease yer INT/WIS by drinking sloppily-heavily
1a. Not suggested as you will skill up less often and that is what you are after, but it would make an interesting trade skill session.
2. Use the "Dull Embroidery Needle of Pain"
2a. If you can find one, (Not Likely,) it will cause you severe pain, (wounds), as you try to do tailoring and you will fail more often. (From what I recollect, it caused a bunch of ppl pain in those teeny-bopper horror flicks :)
3. Use the "Flawed/Crushed Tailoring Kit"
3a. Its got a -10% on tailoring success due to being packed in somebody's luggage and going thru airport security multiple times.
4. Use "A Rusty Needle"
4a. It's a old cheapie needle that now has spots of rust on it from being in a humid environment. Good luck pushing that thru fabric.
5. Use "A Useless Thimble"
5a. One of those made in china plastic ones that only looks like a thimble but really is just a piece of crap. ALSO, it might be one of those stupid porcelain ones with painted on dimples. No good ta tall
6. Give your tailoring materials to anyone from lvl 4 to 7.
6a. With supervision they wont kill themselves but FOR SURE you're not going to get anything back thats useful. (Do the cutting yourself or else have round nose shears available.)
Costs for Trade skills
# Jul 01 2003 at 5:42 PM Rating: Excellent
I have spent most of the last two weeks working trade skills and some of the numbers here confuse me. Jewel craft cost me about 600pp out of pocket after sell backs with cha gear on for buying and selling, wis gear back on with a C3 for combines. That 600pp got me to 178 skill, which with a geerlock for JC is more than enuf for the quest(All of the Shawl 8 gems faceted now and the emeralds and sapphires trivialed below 178 to facet). With out a doubt smithing and tailoring the most expensive and annoying in that order. 154 smith has cost about 1500 (still a ways to go there so that number is going up). Tailoring....I am at the pointI just buy all the hides and silks I need because I loath farming cats and bears and wolves now.

Surprising to me, pottery was the second most expensive. Since most items when fired take up a full inventory slot it was just too much of a pain to even bother firing them. Got the skill to 174, again pretty close to good enough for the quest, but it cost well over 1k with dropping everything I made on the ground.

Brewing was dirt simple and dirt cheap to 143,if you are a druid or wizzie. Bind at the vendor in OOT and buy Kiola nuts from her, port to your favourite brew barrel, repeat as required. Took about an hour and 100pp to get from 1 skill to 143.

Baking is the most simple one. Head to Thurg, grab 100pp out of the bank and go to the meat vendor there (Mordin from the 3rd shawl). Bear meat and water in the oven will take you to 143 from zero skill in about an hour. I did all the combines for shawl three with the 143 skill and all were trivial (good thing too, because if I had ever had to hunt those damn snow griffins again I was going to loose my mind, 6 hours trashing EW and I have track to find the rare spawns. If you dont have track, hire a ranger........).
RE: Costs for Trade skills
# Jan 23 2004 at 11:05 AM Rating: Decent
153 posts
For those who read the post above, Pottery is actually quite inexpensive. Wullu did the extra step that makes pottery expensive - They Fired the unfired items.

When you want to raise skills in pottery inexpensively, make your item on the pottery wheel, but DO NOT fire it in the kiln. Having to buy Firing sheets adds a lot to the cost and upon failure, you lose the sheet.

If you want to sell the items, do this: make your item on the wheel, check how much it sells for at MAX CHA. Then, Fire one of what you are making, and check how much it sells for at MAX CHA. (This may take several tries because you may not have the skill to fire the item) Determine if it is worth the extra step and cost of firing the unfired item. I usually just bypass firing things entirely.

If you DO want to sell the items in the bazaar or in Auction, then keep a few of the items until you reach the Trivial, then fire as you need to.

Good Combining to all!!
RE: Costs for Trade skills
# Feb 02 2004 at 7:50 PM Rating: Decent
I don't know about other servers Nnanji, but on Bert the vendors won't usually buy any unfired items so to even have them purchase them back you must fire them or just destroy or drop them on the ground. Usually you get the cost of the firing sheet back so for me it wasn't even worth firing them and I just destroyed most of the stuff I made. However, Pottery is actually dirt cheap up to 170 or so if you do poison vials, lined or other. Don't hunt for animal skins, what a waste of time. Head to the beach in Gunthak or go to Unrest and slaughter the zombies. In less than an hour I walked out of Gunthak with over 5 stacks of zombie skins which do work in poison vial making. Poison vials also stack whether fired or not AND they go into a container. Cost me less than 600 plat total to get pottery to 170.
RE: Costs for Trade skills
# Apr 10 2005 at 2:18 AM Rating: Decent
73 posts
An even easier updated way to do pottery with the lined poison vials is... Crow's Special Brew instead of Zombie Skin or animal hides.. In Abysmal Sea there is a merchant who sells the Brew in unlimited quantities. Just look up "Special Brew" on and click the link for Crow's Special Brew.
RE: Costs for Trade skills
# Jun 14 2004 at 4:19 AM Rating: Decent
Side note for any KARANA worshipping char that is working on smithing. Head to Surefall, hail Qaelin Hailstorm and get your FREE Mark of Karana. Buy Small Bricks of Steel from same, then head to your fave forge. Combine 1 file, Mark of Karana, 1 Small Brick of Steel, and 1 Flask of Water to make Steel Arrowheads. Triv to 188. WAY cheaper than doing Fine Plate.
Helpful hint on the armor combines for turn in.
# Jun 26 2003 at 9:00 AM Rating: Default
Remember there are two bracers that need to be made and turned in with the armor, not just one. Hopefully this will help prevent you from making the same mistake I did. 8(
Focus Effect on Shawl
# Jun 25 2003 at 1:05 AM Rating: Default
Does anyone know if this ficus effect stacks with any other buff extention spell like the Amulet of Insight?
RE: Focus Effect on Shawl
# Nov 24 2003 at 2:40 PM Rating: Decent
Worn focus effects don't stack, but AA extension will. So the amulet of insight's effect will be overriden but your AA will still effect duration.
RE: Focus Effect on Shawl
# Jul 03 2003 at 7:56 AM Rating: Default
Yes the focus effects stack.
My experience
# Jun 21 2003 at 3:28 AM Rating: Good

Posted @ Mon, Nov 11th 3:34 PM 2002
I have an up and coming shaman and am thinking about this quest. while most of the shawls would sit in the bank waiting for upgrade I would use this.

Shortly after I made that post I did the first two. I had a good time doing some of this quest... and a pain as I farmed some portions of it.

COST: About 10k. I had my skills up a bit from normal skilling while I leveld.

I took Jewelry from 0 to 176 with 1.8k.
Smithing from 60 to 150 2k (I was not very cost effective here)
Tailoring 70 to 145 with 1k or so... even here I was just lazy and did not camp all my supplies.. most I did camp though.
Brewing 0 to 175 with 500p from bazaar sold vegies
Pottery 0 to 160 with 300p
Velium hound furs blocks of velium account for the rest of the cash. I was real lazy these last couple days as I camped the gems.
Note: On skill up I sold back to vendor so the price is net loss.

For the gems do the Genoids in WL they are by far easier to get to and kill than the Wyvrnns in WW. Oh and I wore only the 7th.
RE: My experience
# Oct 20 2003 at 6:20 PM Rating: Default
That's funny... My wizard I got to 250 skill in brewing.. cost me 30pp.

Yes.. Three Zero.. Thirty.. 30pp. Buy and sell back.. Did it all in Neriak just following the guides on

quest complete
# May 14 2003 at 9:30 PM Rating: Decent
smithing 163
tailoring 161
jewlcraft 165

failed on a gem once

failed twice on the furs

failed once on smithing

war walk complete with 9 people

hope it helps

Increasing Your Tradeskills
# May 02 2003 at 6:09 PM Rating: Good
54 posts
I am currently working on the 8th shawl. I've compiled lists of how I increased each of my skills to the level needed for the 8 quests. All are fairly simple, with emphasis on materials that can be found at merchants and not farmed. Hope these help. Click on the link below for detailed info on each one.

ATM my skills are as follows
- Brewing 220
- Baking 187
- Fletching 171
- Jewelry Making 207
- Pottery 170
- Blacksmithing 169
- Tailoring 164

Edited, Sun May 11 05:48:09 2003
General Bragmur
# Apr 26 2003 at 7:22 PM Rating: Decent
16 posts
Anyone know if General Bragmur is charmable?

If I can have someone charm him, I can heal him while the giants and tracking wolves are whacking him and keep him alive during the 8th shawl spawn cycle.
RE: General Bragmur
# Apr 28 2003 at 1:31 PM Rating: Decent
I have participated in this where we actually had a high level shammy (65) with regen, etc punch the general to aggro him and pull him away from the mobs and kite him while the mobs were being cleared.

Once the set of mobs is dead, have a chanter mem blur the general and he picks up where he left off.

An easy way to keep him occupied and away from the wolfs and giants.
RE: General Bragmur
# Feb 06 2004 at 10:12 AM Rating: Decent
Did the shawl walk last night, and used the same method. Worked perfectly!

A thing to note, if you have anyone helping you that is KoS to dwarfs, have them stay far far away from the general. He has a fairly large agro radius and will slow you progression significantly if you have to wait for mem blurs after each agro.

Also, we ran him up near the next spawn point for the waves before we memblurred him and for 3 out of the 5 waves he just started up right where we blurred him. The other two he had to walk back to his original pathing line and walk it for himself.

In all I think we had 12-15 people. It went off without a hitch.
RE: General Bragmur
# Oct 14 2003 at 11:56 PM Rating: Decent
I have been on the final walk twice and both times we used this kite method - works real well.
Tradeskills suck
# Apr 21 2003 at 3:49 AM Rating: Decent
Smithing to 136 so far on approximately 2kpp making banded helms till 106 at triv, then moving on to fine plate visors, I bought the spiderling silks and LQ pelts to make the padding for the fine plate and the blocks used to make the sheets required were 20pp and some change per sheet, only failed about 2 sheets out of 45. And 2kpp is what i have sunk into it after re selling the visors to vendors for 23pp each and succeeding on quite a few.. Tailoring I only have to 121, am working on it with Wu's and is cheaper than Smithing but no profit from re sales, so pretty much what you spend is what you lose. Pottery/baking both to 140's for under 100pp and 4 hours invested with an int of 263. Brewing is only 46 (triv for heady kiola ive been making for tailoring) and i imagine its gonna be a cheap tradeskill well into the hundreds. JC has by far got to be the easiest tradeskill as you can buy everything, and the guys idea of working gems till theyre more expensive than the bar itself, then go to next highest bar and work the lowest gems again is the cheapest method. The camps are crap, at lvl 63 as a necro i can let my pet destroy velks for the threads/silks for the 5th shawl, and the shardwurm biles are just a pain in the **** no matter what lvl you are. All in all I would say 6-8k and you can get the skills where they need to be for the shawl quests and the above mentioned progress has been made over the course of one week, playin about 4 hours a day. Its not a bad quest for post 60 players who are sick of the PoP grind solo or grouped or LFG all the time, gives ya something to do and the final shawl is going to be well worth it, FT3 and the mana pres is $$.. Theres not many shoulder items that are better for an int or wis caster/hybrid with the exception of maybe Vex Thal or high end PoP encounters that you wont see unless your 10 hours a day hardcore... Stick with it and stop cybOring and youll get it done, dont get discouraged and keep yer eye on the prize rather than Luvyulucy the netvestite and youll have an ubah shoulder item in under a month...

Also, helps to keep ya going if you farm alot of the items beforehand and do the combines when your done, like get a sewing kit and your supplies for combines and take em to GD and slaughter the wurms while skilling up tailoring simultaneously, when u hit combine or trade and get 5 shawls in one day it tends to keep ya going more than having a 4int/wis/cha shawl taking up your backpack space for 3 weeks while u farm the items as you go..
# Apr 13 2003 at 3:10 AM Rating: Decent
I am slowly starting to work on my Tradeskills for this, starting with some of the cheaper ones (Pottery and Baking). One thing I havnt been able to find tho, is approx. How much pp it will cost me to raise them all to needed lvl. Please no random guesses, but if anyone has a general idea how much then would guess, would be appreciated. Also, at the moment im using an ODS.. so im also wondering how worth it is to do this quest. The 20% to buffs as a shaman would be nice, but not sure about FT3 v.s. MP3 on the ODS. Advice on that.. or any other MP3 droppable items I could stick in another slot?

Edited, Sun Apr 13 04:03:20 2003
RE: Costs
# Jun 13 2003 at 3:41 PM Rating: Decent
I am 200 in all tradeskills except smithing (188) and tailoring (188).

IMO any tradeskill that lets you skill up for less than 10PP per combine is cheap and fletching, baking, brewing, pottery will each allow you to get to a reasonably high level for under 10PP per combine (even jewelcraft costs you less that 10PP per attempt considering the fact that a decent charisma will let you sell back your successes for very close to what you paid for the components). Each of fletching, baking, brewing, pottery and jewelcraft will allow you to skill up to 200 using storebought items only (although it is probably better to buy a bunch of zombieskins from a player-vendor to make the pottery skillups a bit cheaper, oh yeah and you generally can only get to 199 with pottery from storebought items).

Your skill up rate is made up of three factor, your current skill level (the higher your level, the fewer skill ups you get, it seems like there are break points every 25 points or so), the trivial on the recipe you are attempting (you will get more skillups on a recipe with a 174 trivial than on a recipe with a 176 trivial, it seems like there are break points every 25 points or so), the higher of your int or wisdom (and possibly some other stat like strength or dexterity for particular tradeskills).

With 125+ CHA and 255 Wis, I would say that I was able to get each of fletching, brewing, baking and pottery to 200 for under 1 or 2K PP each. I would say that jewelcraft costs about 5 to 10K PP to get to 200. Tailoring and smithing probably cost me about 15 to 25K PP each (and I only have those at 188) and required quite a bit of patience while I waited for enough of the dropped components (such as low quality furs for leather padding and foraged items for the colored ribbons) to be available in bazaar (I can't farm fast enough to justify not XP grinding somewhere and spending my share of the loot on these items). If you are contemplating doing this quest to completion BE WARNED: while this quest has a great reward at the end, I would probably have 20 or 30 more AA points right now if I didn't spend all my time on tradeskilling and farming quest items, I would also be at least 100K richer from the money I would have saved by not investing in tradeskills as well as the additional loot I would have picked up during my XP grind. If you want an FT 3 item, you can farm boots of flowing slime (or even buy them) for much less trouble. Aside from the FT 3 there are shoulder slot items that are just as good if not better. But remember you also get the 5 nice things that drop during the 8th shawl quest (this stuff will go to guildies but hopefully you are in a guild where helping your guildies is good for you as a whole) AND you get to spawn the DAIN during your 8th shawl quest and he tends to drop some very decent gear (faction hits can be an issue for your guild if there are people who still want to do their 8th shawl quest or their 9th or 10th ring quest.

Sure I also have all my tradeskills at respectable levels BUT I have found VERY little use for my tradeskills aside from my ability to complete this quest. If you expect much money from tradeskilling, you have to get one of your tradeskills to a high enough level that you can do some of the 250+ trivial combines.

The only thing that keeps tradeskills profitable (even the really easy ones like brewing) at the 250 level is the fact that A) its a pain in the butt to skill up from 200 to 250 even with storebought items and B) if you want more than one tradeskill past 200 you have to spend 3 AA points and there aren't enough people who can spare 3 AA points for tradeskills.
RE: Costs
# Aug 12 2003 at 10:05 AM Rating: Default
This quest was designed to reward those who take the time to raise their tradeskills.

I enjoyed doing tradeskills. I didn't do it for uber_item_106.

I look at my shawl as a trophy.

You are way off base as to what gives skill increases. Skill increase is solely dependant on the higher of your Wis or Int. Your skill level does not affect skill-up rate. It only affects your success rate.
RE: Costs
# Dec 21 2003 at 6:39 AM Rating: Decent
sorry to differ with you but the man is right. I wanted to get me pottery skill to 250 so I started out. Got skill to 153 and thought why not just do the dish at trivial of 199. First 600 combines took me to 189. that is over 1 skill up per stack average. So I thought another 300 combines would get me to 199 wrong. The last 300 combines only got me to 193 4 skill ups for 15 stacks. So yes the higher you go the less skill ups you will get per stack ratio.
RE: Costs
# Oct 16 2003 at 5:51 PM Rating: Decent
I beg to differ.

I got LOT more skill ups when my skill level was at 100 than when my skill level was at 175. They just don't come as often when your skill is higher. I looked at my post again to make sure I didn't make a mistake and I don't think I did. Have a high base stat (355 max these days). It gets tougher as your skill increases. Recipes with lower trivials give more frequent skill ups.

OH yeah and ONE more thing. You get more skill ups on success than failure.

I might be wrong but I have noticed these trends time and time again.
RE: Costs
# Nov 24 2003 at 1:25 PM Rating: Default
I agree. I've skilled Smithing up to 224, all others except Tailoring (174) to 200. It is absolutely true that the higher you go, the fewer skillups per combine you get. Whether this is based purely on your skill level, or partly also on the trivial of the item you're attempting (as you suggested in your first message) I don't know - but it does appear to make sense.

High Priest of 62 seasons
E'ci server
RE: Costs
# May 06 2003 at 1:16 AM Rating: Default
Crystaline torque and helm of nocturnal phantasms are both tradeable, first is a rare drop, second is a player made item by a max jeweler from PoP drops.
Spunkmidg 57 pally
Supmidg 58 chanter
Weemidg 49 wizzy
RE: Costs
# Apr 14 2003 at 11:20 AM Rating: Default
Pottery = 47 PP - Made Medium Jars (Unfired) and Medium Bowls (Unfired)
Smithing = 66 PP - Various paths
RE: Costs
# Apr 14 2003 at 1:25 AM Rating: Decent
54 posts
Baking is perhaps the easiest of them all to raise skill. Just go to Mordin the baker in Thurg. He sells bear meat. Combine bear meat with a filleting knife (made with smithing) in an oven...result is filleted bear meat, trivial at 143. The knife ius returned on success or failure. If you want to go higher, go to JaggedPine forest and buy stacks and stacks of cheese (from Chef Bargus (sp) and combine the 1 cheese, 1 bear meat, 1 loaf of bread, and one non-stick frying pan in an oven to make Patty Melt, trivial at 193. All in all, I spent prolly less than 300pp to get my skill to 193.
As for pottery, I can't remember exactly what I did. I made bowls I believe, started off with small ones, the reg, then large maybe. All of the supplies were availble in the bank area of Thurg. I spent less than 500pp. I got my skill up to about 140 doing that (which was plenty). Don't waste your time firing the things because firing any sort of pottery is very low trivial. It will cost you more to buy the firing sheet than the money you will get back from selling the bowl. Not to mention the added to of moving over time the kiln. I just destroyed the unfired bowls. Good luck.

Edited, Mon Apr 14 01:49:43 2003
# Apr 06 2003 at 1:43 PM Rating: Decent
Can anyone send a link or describe all the multiquestable parts of these different shawl quests. I got friends to help id they can. Thanks in advance

Edited, Sun Apr 6 14:09:02 2003
RE: Multi-quest
# Apr 14 2003 at 1:17 AM Rating: Decent
54 posts
The first 4 shawls are MQ-able...I've done it myself about 4 times. They involves turning in multiple items, and then turning in your current shawl. I would turn in the no drop stuff and have the other person turn in his shawl, and he would get the next one back. The 5th and beyond, however, you do a combine of your shawl with something else, and get the new shawl back, so they aren't MQ-able. I sold the MQ of the first 4 shawls for about 2k each time.
RE: Multi-quest
# Apr 10 2003 at 8:38 AM Rating: Decent
This isnt Multi-Questable... but, some items are NOT nodrop... so friends can help with them, all other items are nodrop and will need YOU to combine them. There is a list of items needed for each of the 8 shawls on.... I think eqtraders ( or a link there to the list), which lists what items are nodrop and what items are not, including the trivials for each combine.
RE: Multi-quest
# Apr 26 2003 at 12:54 PM Rating: Decent
54 posts
The link to steps is at On the left side go to recipes, then tailoring. There is a link for Coldain Preyer Shawls and links to each of the 8 shawls. Good Luck.
RE: Multi-quest
# Apr 12 2003 at 3:12 AM Rating: Default
I believe the original poster is asking about the ENTIRE shawl quest. In which case shawls 1-3 ARE multi-questable. 4-8 however require specific hand ins of subsequent shawls, so they are not. HOWEVER, as you say most items are *NOT* no drop, only a few, the issue that will hold you back isnt the drops, however, its the trade skills. Long tedius, boring work to say the least, and almost pointless to boot, GL with tailornig, its really the only BIG pain, but with patience even a 158 tailor can quest #7

GL with The shawl in all, you will be quite happy with the end result
RE: Multi-quest
# Oct 16 2003 at 5:57 PM Rating: Decent
I am not sure but I think you can MQ the 8th shawl. Once again I am not sure but I think if you can get yourself to the 7th shawl, someone else can make the armor, trigger the shawl crawl and then you can turn in the 7th shawl (after it gets inspected by the DAIN) to the avatar of below and get your 8th shawl.

# Mar 18 2003 at 1:52 PM Rating: Decent
The sheer Volume of posts on this subject should tell you something. I did not even get through all the posts but I can tell you this is obviously a popular not to mention difficult to obtain Item. Did I say dificult I meant to say you have to be an EQ lifer. My wife says I am addicted to this game and never before have I ignored her the way I do now because of this game. But I gotta tell ya the truth is that I am an amatuer and a part timer compared to a lot of You. That having been said, I looked through the walk throughs on all the shawls and can tell you that I believe I can obtain Level 60 and the Entire wolf Caller's Armor and complete my Epic (BTW I am only level 46) in the time it would take to complete the the quests to obtain the 8th Shawl. Now that having been said, Let me just say It looks pretty sweet and my hat is off to those of you that have aquired it and I REALY THINK That this game has become my life LMAO!!!!

Edited, Tue Mar 18 13:20:08 2003
# Apr 27 2003 at 8:57 AM Rating: Decent
actually, if you have the cash for the tradeskills (about 50k) you can do all of the shawls in about 2-3 weeks, even if you are only on for a couple hours each night. the most tedious parts of the shawl quest is the tradeskills.
Complet set...
# Feb 17 2003 at 1:01 PM Rating: Decent
NPC ask to make a complet of Imbued Royal Velium Armor...

Must I do 2 bracers to fill completly the Issue Kit?

Aphrodyth ;-)
RE: Complet set...
# Feb 19 2003 at 1:08 PM Rating: Decent
yes, you will recieve an 8 slot container for the quest, and all slots must be filled. As with all other full set quests (most notably noob armor quests) 2 bracers are required. The armor itself is not tough, reasonably fast farming (about 3 days of hunting), and I completed all combines with Smithing at only 148, though i did get some failures. The fun starts when you have to find the gems, hope you have a few friends =)
#REDACTED, Posted: Jan 22 2003 at 11:19 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) this is hard
Waste Of Time
# Jan 21 2003 at 6:29 PM Rating: Default
I just want to say that if I could do it all over again, I would not do this quest.

I’m on the 6th shawl and have all of the components for it. My tailoring is currently at 129 and I’m afraid to try the combine until my tailoring is at 156+. I’m doing Wu Armor now and I’ve come to the conclusion that I would rather spend my time and money on lvling up and getting other gear than doing this quest. For a LOT less money you can hit Luclin and get a KEI every 3 hours. I’ve been working on this shawl off and on for a little over a year, with some breaks here and there. With the time, cash and frustration needed to research hunt and get my trade skills up, it’s just not worth it.

I must say though, now that I’m at the 6th shawl, I have all intentions to finish the quest up to the 8th shawl. If for nothing else, just to prove that I did this stupid time wasting quest. I can’t bear the thought of calling it quits now that I have invested literality months of time into this quest. I just wish I could do it all over again, in other words…I wouldn’t. The 8th shawl is for sure a kick $ss item and I’ll be stoked to have it. It’s just that it takes soooooo much time and money. For 2k I could buy a +9 wisdom shoulder item and get the KEI here and there. I would be lvl 60+ by now if I would of spent the time lvling instead of trying this quest.
RE: Waste Of Time
# Feb 13 2003 at 6:40 AM Rating: Decent
70 posts
I would say that this is well worth it as the only focus item (that I know of) that gives +20% to buffs, extended enhancement 4 only does 15%. As for the FT effect, well, theres not a whole lot of FT items out there and this would be one of the easiest ones to aquire. All it takes is a lot of money, say 10-20k, and maybe a week to skill up and farm no drop items.
RE: Waste Of Time
# Jul 30 2003 at 7:11 PM Rating: Decent
70 posts
I did the shawl quest. Started with 30k ended up with 10k. In any case.... you do not have to have your skills at 190. I used the EQTraders guide for component trivials and for recipes to skill up. Tailoring just did wu's and it was at 163 when I did final tailoring combine (save a lot of money by having a chanter make mana vials tahts what cost a lot for me). Smithing I just did fine steel and my skill was 174 at final smithing combine. Jewelcraft, if you progress slowly, buy and sell with CHA gear, you will make back 80-90% of what you spent (highest gem I used was an emerald, highest bar I used was gold) always sell back what you make. All the other stuff is really cheap to do. Baking just make a filet knife and buy meat in thurgadin to get to 150 skill. Brewing get a cyclops skull from south karana and make skull ale to skill 150. Fletching you can get to 200 skill at merchant. Pottery I dont remember, I got my pottery skill up to 190 trying to make a faithstone so i didnt pay any attention to pottery trivials for this quest. I did all the heavy tradeskilling and shawls 4-8 except for the final war (Which has nothing to do with tradeskills) in about a month. Being 60 helps.
RE: Waste Of Time
# Feb 22 2003 at 9:11 PM Rating: Good
10-20k? You have to get most if not all tradeskills up to 190. There is no way to do this with 20k or less unless you farm all your own compenents for the skillups. If you would like a true look at how dificult this quest is, go to and check out the writeup on how truely hard this quest is to complete. Not to mention you need to be high enough level to get all the no-drop items needed. This is the best caster shoulder item in the game, and it has been called the epic of all tradeskills. Be warned this quest is one of the more dificult to complete in EQ. The reward is well worth it, but requires a huge timesink to complete.

Here is a quote from part of the write up

"The rewards of the shawl quests are rich, but the demands are many.

Ok, here, take the amount of work that you are right now envisioning you will need to put into the whole thing, getting from nothing to the eighth shawl. Now, if you are a pessimist by nature, multiply that amount by ten. If you are an optimist by nature, multiply it by a hundred.

That is how much effort will go into just getting your tailoring where it needs to be to complete the sixth shawl. We won't even talk about the smithing for the eight shawl yet....

You also need to get your baking, brewing, fletching, jewelcraft, and pottery up to similar levels. You need to get items off of creatures in Iceclad, East Wastes, Kael Drakkel, Cobalt Scar, Great Divide, Siren's Grotto, West Wastes, and Velketor's Labyrinth, among others. Some of these critters cannot be soloed by a single person of any level or class. Unless your trade skills are all already where they need to be, you will not have the eighth shawl with only a few weeks of work. Even if by some strange twist your skills are all up there and you don't have this thing yet, you'll still need a lot, a lot lot lot of time and help to get it that fast. Think of this as the epic quest for tradeskillers.

Now, that said...I obviously love this quest and love trade skills or else I would not have taken the time to compile these guides to help others through it. I just want you to realize with crystal clear understanding the magnitude of what you are undertaking before you make yourself and the rest of Norrath miserable."

RE: Waste Of Time
# Dec 07 2003 at 4:46 AM Rating: Decent
You do not have to get any tradeskills up to 190. The highest trivial is for the embroidered combine, which is tailoring 200+. Everyone stops tailoring at 158 and just farms the components again on a failure, which is much faster and ceaper than getting your tailoring past 200. The next highest is smithing 187 for the armor combine, which means you can stop at 179 with geerlok. All the other tradeskills have 160-170 max.
RE: Waste Of Time
# Feb 11 2003 at 11:39 AM Rating: Default
"For a LOT less money you can hit Luclin and get a KEI every 3 hours"

Um, your logic escapes me. Don't you think that having flowing thought items AND KEI enable you to be all the more effective? Are you aware you have have FT items stack up to FT 15 (I believe)?

See where levels get you on a fight that last 15 minutes.

RE: Waste Of Time
# Jan 29 2003 at 1:18 AM Rating: Decent
I recommend doing the combines early too. I did it around 130 as well and only failed once. I figured that i could farm components for another combine faster than I could raise my skill to trivial. Did the 7th shawl with about the same skills and failed once on that too.

Now to raise smithing so I can do the 8th shawl :(
RE: Waste Of Time
# Jan 22 2003 at 5:14 PM Rating: Excellent
I Know what you mean I felt the same way. But I did my 6th shawl with only a 136 tailoring. Look here is what you do. Just gather enough supplies to do the attempt...say.....6X. Then you sit in the bazaar and buy Woven frost beards 1 at a time untill you get your success. I did the same thing with the 7th shawl and got it at skill level 138. And just remember the end product is worth it.
#REDACTED, Posted: Jan 08 2003 at 10:52 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) can someone send a picture
jewelcraft 150?
# Nov 25 2002 at 5:24 PM Rating: Decent
i was just wondering if there is any way to do this w/o having to get jewelcraft over 150 just cause it seems like it would be rather inpractical(don't know if thats even a word)if you are not an enchanter
RE: jewelcraft 150?
# Feb 02 2003 at 9:54 AM Rating: Default
In my eyes jewlcraft wasn't the most expensive thing I used my time on. I can only say blacksmithing costed me alot, but I wouldn't mind doing it all over if I had to. It is the best focus item for buff doration. It has ft 3 and who wouldn't want that (shh pure melees) I have it now and I am happy for it. Ofcouse it costs money and Yes it is prolly easier to go into a big guild and get a few FT items, but just to know you have made it yourself and to know I have one of the best shoulder items in the game. I am happy. If you only do this to get a good item then ofcouse you will think it is boring to do. But for me it is a good upgrade even though I am in a guild thats soon goes for NToV and ST! :)

I did this with 178 in JC and JC all in all cost me 1k pp where as Blacksmithing cost me 2k

Good Luck and have fun doing it all upcomming Shawl users. (ps it costs me less then 7 k to make not sure about it exactly, but considering Ft3 boots goes for 90k+ on my server it is a cheap price)
RE: jewelcraft 150?
# Mar 12 2003 at 5:25 AM Rating: Decent
How oooo How can i get JC to 170 whatever you posted for 1k !!!!!!!!!! Tell me and i will believe !
How i lvled JC for less 1Kpp
# Apr 10 2003 at 4:16 AM Rating: Decent
87 posts
I lvl my JC skill too for about only 1kkp

3 things :

1) Low and middle lvl, make jewellery till reach topaz trivial, then don't continue with gems and same metal, start the next metal with the first gems till u reach topaz again.

2) U will see that when u start platinium it's still cheapper to lvl skill with platinum and cat's eye agathe than gold and diamond...Smiley: yikes

3) When u start to reach a lvl which permits you going in sebilis for exemple, u can loot much gems, then start to make some diamond ring, blue diamond braclet, some fail much succes and u can sell pretty good(600/800)

GL all and Safe Hunt to You Smiley: tongue

Edited, Mon Jul 14 19:17:23 2003
RE: jewelcraft 150?
# Jan 17 2003 at 1:07 AM Rating: Default
199 posts
I'd say no, I had a skill of 190 and I still failed etching one of the sapphires.... /sigh last one i need to get, but I do have all the other armor pieces crafted and imbued, so thats a relief at least.
RE: jewelcraft 150?
# Dec 13 2002 at 4:59 PM Rating: Default
It is so much more of a pain in the butt to get everything together only to fail because you didn't want to skill up your jewelry. Sure it costs money but this shawl is perhaps one of the BEST shoulder items for casters in the game that is achievable by an average player (i.e. someone not in an uberguild playing 40 hours a week).

The real pain in the butt is gettting Tailoring high enough 6to get past the 6th shawl (couldn't get my tailoring high enough so I have had 4 failures on the combine to date but it is easier farming the components that raising tailoring to 200 (158 when I started and not willing to skill up on rare/expensive components, I got a skillup on 2 of the failed attempts so maybe I will skill myself to 200 by the time I actually get a succesful combine... of course I will have thrown my monitor out the window by then).

Edited, Fri Dec 13 16:45:47 2002
RE: jewelcraft 150?
# Dec 19 2002 at 2:32 AM Rating: Default
It dawns on me that as I work my way towards this item the recent trivial nerfs are making it extremely difficult to skill-up to the required skill level to successfully complete this quest.
For example in smithing, the trivials have dropped so much that it is truly almost (almost mind you) as difficult as tailoring to skill up to the approporiate levels. I'm sure there has been a lot of speculation about the rationale and implementation of the nerfs (as with any nerf) but considering that most of the cool new stuff that they want to restrict is 250+ why do they make it harder to achieve this quest while making the item somewhat less attractive by changing the effect? Were they afraid of Snow Griffons being hunted into extinction for the 3rd shawl? Come to think of it, they are probably more concerned about the extinction of the shard wurms for the 5th shawl. People still get to the 4th shawl for the thurg potion combines but that's pretty much where it ends for almost everyone nowadays and the only real obstacle to getting there is the snow griffon eggs. Well VI has suceeded in ensuring that NOBODY hunts shardwurms (not when they could be hunting Giants or hunting in Velks).

Edited, Thu Dec 19 02:12:59 2002
Bard Mana
# Nov 16 2002 at 5:38 PM Rating: Good
Would this help a bard regain mana faster when equipped.
RE: Bard Mana
# Nov 21 2002 at 11:58 AM Rating: Default
Well, despite your lack of a question mark, I'll assume you were asking a question and not just making an odd statement.

Yes, unlike spell/song mana regen, bards do get the affects of FT items.
#REDACTED, Posted: Nov 23 2002 at 3:02 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Yes normally a sentence that starts with "Would" indicates a question.
RE: Bard Mana
# Feb 16 2003 at 3:33 PM Rating: Decent
True, but generally a sentence that ends in a period, denotes a statement = )

Would like to buy a grammar manual.

Notice it's not a question though it starts with "would".

Sometimes I can't hold my toungue, sorry for those of you who's time I wasted.

Volcanus Eruptus
62 Evoc Mage
Vallon Zek

Edited, Sun Feb 16 15:04:25 2003
#REDACTED, Posted: Mar 01 2003 at 12:07 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) "True, but generally a sentence that ends in a period, denotes a statement = )"
#REDACTED, Posted: Nov 09 2002 at 1:44 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) The prayer shawl quests are SOOOOOO not worth the time energy and money required to get there. By the time you finish the prayershawl quest you have an 8th coldain prayer shawl. other stuff that drops during the 8th shawl quest (decent but by the time you get there, you've got better). several tradeskills above 150 (this is where the "costs too much money to complete" idea comes in). For what? This is nice but OMG I know people who have spent a 1000 hours working up to this item and by the time they got it, they didn't need the FT3, EE3, or the stats. They already had better. This item should be one of the most powerful of all quest items kinda like a tradeskillers epic. Instead it is a nice item for a 50+ player but not amazing.
RE: Not worth it
# Nov 20 2002 at 3:06 PM Rating: Excellent
this "may not be worth it" to your twinked alt, but for someone who started this quest at level 40 and slowly but surely has been finishing it off, i'd say you have no idea what you are talking about.

Quests are for people who want something to do while playing EQ other than sit in OT/DL LFG. I've never had as much fun in EQ than i have had completing this quest. It gave me a lot of levels of experience and some npc interaction along the way. Sure as hell beats sitting in DL watching my exp bar barely move. PLUS, i was able to do the first four totally solo. I find working trade skills fun and rewarding. Sure it takes a lot of time, sure it costs money (less money if you farm your own stuff, but i suppose a twink wouldn't think of this method). The best way to gain full fulfillment from this game is to find quests you can do while you are killing stuff you'd normally be killing anyways. Even if you aren't going to keep the equipment, it's still something to do. The end result of this quest _is_ amazing.
RE: Not worth it
# Dec 30 2002 at 6:31 PM Rating: Decent
23 posts
Good answer. If the quests were there only to get stuff, VI would not bother with all the story telling. The rewards are great but getting them and playing along with the npcs is half the fun.
RE: Not worth it
# Nov 11 2002 at 3:34 PM Rating: Good
I have an up and coming shaman and am thinking about this quest. while most of the shawls would sit in the bank waiting for upgrade I would use this.

Can I do with out the flowing thought 3 and the Zephyr of Brell? Yes I do now and am doing just fine. Would they make me better as a shaman? With out a doubt.

Waste of time? Not even a chance. I will take the "slow and when I have time" route to getting this item. Waste of time to stop everything and focus on getting this one item? Ummm I think so but... so what some others may really enjoy it.

Better Items? Sure but depends on what your armor goals are and I do not have the power to get better than this for my armor goals.
I like this myself Twilight Shroud and this one
Shawl of Awakenings

Just my thoughts.
RE: Not worth it
# Nov 11 2002 at 1:01 PM Rating: Excellent
Hmm, just got my shawl about 2 weeks ago, and the only person i could see that would say it isnt worth it are warriors, monks, rogues, and those that are too lazy to do this quest, I would LOVE to know what you think is better then this for a caster, PLEASE post the items or SIT DOWN and keep your mouth shut!

Azhe Phoenizflame
58 Druid
Karana server
#REDACTED, Posted: Jun 02 2003 at 10:11 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Kelp-lined Mantle
RE: Not worth it
# Aug 12 2003 at 10:20 AM Rating: Default
So are the Elemental planes opened up for lvl 45 characters now? Of course there are better items out there jack ***!

You have to look at what level they are attainable.
Apples and Oranges.
# Jun 19 2003 at 12:13 PM Rating: Good
24 posts
Vengance of Time is for "Detrimental" spells (DoT's, Debuffs, etc.) where Zephyr of Brell is for "Beneficial" spells (Virtue, KEI, Focus, etc.).
Yes the Kelp-Lined Mantle is a good shoulder piece (even though I cannot wear it), but the fun is earning the Prayer Shawls yourself through tradeskills, not having your uber guild kill somthing for you to loot. Anyone can pick up an item off a corpse.
I started this quest at level 30 somthing and my Shawl has constantly progressed and upgraded in line with my level. With the tradeskills that I learned, it opened up many new quest windows such as the Earring if the Solstice and the Coldain Rings.
As a Beastlord, my shawl saves me mana by not having to recast my expensive pet hastes and self buffs as often and the FT3 greatly reduces my downtime.
This quest is fantastic for learning tradeskills and NPC interaction. I highly sugest it to all that can wear it. Don't give up!
RE: Not worth it
# Jun 17 2003 at 5:29 AM Rating: Decent
Your joking right?
Yes, that's a better item, but it comes off a boss mob in a high tier plane and has a required level of 65. The Blessed Coldain Prayer Shawl is an excellent item that is actually obtainable by someone not in an uber guild.

Edited, Tue Jun 17 05:49:24 2003
RE: Not worth it
# Nov 10 2002 at 9:14 PM Rating: Excellent
You need help. This item is like one of the BEST freaking shoulder items in the game for a caster. FT3, Zephyr of Brell and 8 to main and secondary stats, and you say its not worth it? Do you have the item? Have you done the quests?? Well I have. And I had most tradeskills in the 100s before the quests were around, so getting them where they needed to be was not all that hard. I do not know many people who have done this quest that are upset with the final item. Come to think of it, I do not know many people who have finished this quest. The 8 I know on my server all love the Shawl... Are we upset that there will not be a 9th and 10th? Yes, because we had such fun doing these quests. Remember that this is a game and its called Ever"quest" not Ever"uberloot". Get back to playing for the fun of it and not powerleveing till you are 65. And as for not needing FT3... how in Solusek's name is that possible??? I don't know anyone who has FT items that stack to 15 already.. Barring a few mwmbers of Triton. This item is Amazing and is worth my time. I'm a 55th wizard who is not a powerplayer and i don't raid NToV everyday, I have more responsibilities that limit my playing time, yet I was able to do this, and I am unable to get a full suit of NToV armor...
#REDACTED, Posted: Nov 21 2002 at 11:55 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) You aren't very knowledgable about FT stuff. There are a lot of players who have hit the FT15 cap. Basically anyone who's raided in Vex Thal for any length of time will have max FT -- Luclin was a bonanza for FT items. It's not just Triton, believe me.
Personal vendetta???
# Nov 21 2002 at 5:07 PM Rating: Good
Look, I said I do not know many people who have their FT maxxed. Does it happen? Sure to guilds that have members that are all 60 and all in the same time zone and play a lot. And take a gander at my magelo profile. MOST (I think 15 peices) of my gear comes from quests/tradeskill related things. Yeah it must be nice to have time to play and all, but I don't. This is a very good shoulder item which I do not forsee myself getting better than in the next few months of play. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but there is no reason to slam me for it and give me a crappy post rating when most people agree with me. Sorry you feel that way, but to me ( someone who cannot go on all the raids for lack of time ) trade-skilling and questing is a great way to get great gear.

Edited, Thu Nov 21 16:46:55 2002
#REDACTED, Posted: Nov 21 2002 at 5:12 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Notice I was talking in general terms. It's groovy that you have quested stuff, but the majority of people have dropped loot for their gear (and even if it's a quest, it almost always requires kiling a mob to get the quest drop). I was just stressing that always questing isn't really the main point of this game, even though it's called EverQuest. We wouldn't have to kill mobs for 99.9% of our exp if it truly was an everquest.
does this work with cleric heal over time?
# Nov 03 2002 at 12:35 PM Rating: Default
will this focus effect work with spells like celestial healing? thanks
RE: does this work with cleric heal over time?
# Nov 03 2002 at 2:28 PM Rating: Decent
Apparently not. If you click the link on the effect, it says

6: Restriction: Minimum Tick Duration: 8

The description of Celestial on Allakhazaam's spell list says it goes for 4 ticks.
Group buffs
# Nov 01 2002 at 11:41 PM Rating: Decent
Anyone confirm, effect does not work for group spells like kei etc. I am a shaman and doesn't seem to be working on any group buffs.
stacks with AA ability?
# Oct 02 2002 at 4:25 AM Rating: Decent
Does anyone know for SURE if this effect stacks with the AA extended buff abilities?
RE: stacks with AA ability?
# Oct 10 2002 at 3:58 AM Rating: Decent
From what I've read, it should stack, but they both work off of the original duration of the buff (i.e. the 20 % from the shawl won't be factored into the calculation of AA ability, just added to the total duration).
I got 2 questions!
# Sep 06 2002 at 6:25 AM Rating: Decent
Question : 8th shawl has been "modified" with FT3 but with the stats on on the top, it also adds +8 str, dex, & agi. Can anyone confirm is it true or not? And Confirm the % of Zephyr of Brell is 15% or 20%? Many Thanks
RE: I got 2 questions!
# Sep 10 2002 at 2:27 PM Rating: Good
The +8 to Strength, Agility, and Dexterity are errors; the shawl doesn't have these stats. So, it is merely wonderful!

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