Savage Lord's Eitchatka
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Shadows of Luclin7 posts
Wow u guys are wonderful. You are all talking about a uber 13/16 weap and arguings whos better. Why don't you all grow up cuz without a monk theres no way you will succeed same with beasty. its essentional to have both around cuz when u cant use 1 u can use the other. and wel lately theres so many 24/20 weaps etc
Is VI trying to make BL the H2H damage masters? Seems that his weapon is superior to even celestial fists. Yes, monks get double attack and BL would need two of these, but with the 4 higher dmg and 150DD this seems to make BL the H2H masters and not monks.
Edited, Mon May 13 13:02:04 2002
Edited, Mon May 13 13:02:04 2002
3 posts
Ok ya all forgot the most obvious thing about the Original post that is wrong. VI? VI hasn't had a thing to do with this game in like forever. Come on peeps it's sony. SOE get it through your thick skulls already.
3 posts
Edited, Tue Jan 20 12:16:07 2004
Know what you are sayin before you post. First of all this item isnt even close to Celestial Fists. sure monks hands r only 9/16 with CF's but that before you figure in the 40% hast on CF's. That said they are still pretty even but once you add the stats on Cf's it's not even close imho. Also CF's are gloves, as in hand slot not a weapon slot so why you are comparing them in the first place i dunno.
Edited, Wed Apr 16 03:05:03 2003
Edited, Wed Apr 16 03:05:03 2003
21 posts
Actually, I believe they meant Whistling Fists... https://everquest.allakhazam.com/db/item.html?item=10340 I mistake them for eachother also, so lets not be so harsh, k? thx.
Yes, Beastlords are supposed to be the H2H damage masters....H2H is the ONLY weapon skill cap of 250+ for a Beastlord...
Monks are supposed to be the weapon masters...using 1hb/2hb/H2H etc all equally well...
and 2HB should be the Monks weapon of choice anyway.....
Monks are supposed to be the weapon masters...using 1hb/2hb/H2H etc all equally well...
and 2HB should be the Monks weapon of choice anyway.....
35 posts
Um, Beastlords get DA now with the PoP AA at level 61.
Shakarr Frostpaw
54 Primalist {Wild Knights - Rathe}
Shakarr Frostpaw
54 Primalist {Wild Knights - Rathe}
It is no surprise that this weapon is better than Celestial Fists, epics were not meant to be the best weapons in the game(especially for melees) and off mobs of similiar difficulty monks are getting 16/19, 17/20, 14/18, 15/20 weapons that are primary useable and have procs too.
Ok, didn't see the secondary only.
21 posts
Umm...girls girls...stop arguing about this being better than Celestial Fists ok. Yes..this is 13/16 which is better than 9/16 monk fists with epic but don't forget that neat little effect called Celestial Tranquility. With a decent haste item and this effect monk fists are about 9/10. Next time you're grouping with an epic monk...nicely ask him to use just fists...turn on "others hits" filter and enjoy the spam. 8) This weapon is nice but doesn't replace our epic. OMG laugh!! And now think about the other nice H2H weapons out there with 16/19, 17/20 or 17/19 ratios that 'are' monk useable. Quickly doing the math that's 16/13, 17/14 and 17/13 self hasted. God that's nasty.
well i agree Monks need to stop crying about Beast getting one or two decent weapons that they cant steal out from under us....
Celestial Fist is basically just a permanent 40% Haste for all weapons...i see nothing to cry about there....
as for this..
Next time you're grouping with an epic monk...nicely ask him to use just fists...turn on "others hits" filter and enjoy the spam. 8) This weapon is nice but doesn't replace our epic. OMG laugh!! And now think about the other nice H2H weapons out there with 16/19, 17/20 or 17/19 ratios that 'are' monk useable. Quickly doing the math that's 16/13, 17/14 and 17/13 self hasted. God that's nasty
Next time your grouping with a high level Beastlord, Nicely ask him to self haste (40-50%) minimum, thats "without" any haste items which is pretty rare for a high lvl Beast not to have a haste item, so Beast is always usually no less than 65% to 85+% self hasted...and thats not counting Frenzy of Spirit (99+% Haste plus 332ATK for 1 min every 11 min )and add Savagery another +135ATK.....So a Beast during a fight can be easily 99+% self Hasted with his ATK well in excess of 1800+ATK...(iam currently at just over 1800 self buffed)
Then turn on "others hits" filter and between He and his his Pet enjoy the battle spam that easily rivals any Monk...
Hmm 100+% self hasted...that would make these Beast claws what? something like 13/9? or 13/10 whatever the cap is
God thats nastIER
Dark...why would i forget basically 1/2 my char?
That would be like a Monk equiping a Opal encrusted stien in his Offhand and not using Kicks DOH!
I have my pet ALL the time...Never without...not during fights or raids anyway...
Ive gone "toe to toe" with several Monks lately....dropped them all quickly...
If i get a FOL to stick which usually it does sometime or another thats all she wrote...I just keep lighting him up, dotting, debuffing, slowing, while my pet is tearing his **** up, i pop a heal on my Pet once in awhile if need be, once he uses his Mend its over.
My pet fully Buffed can have up to 7000HPs i currently have 6400HPs plus 305+ AGI and CA3& LR5 i get missed ALOT and at some point my pet usually /shields me taking 50% of the Damage...
Ive done more damage than several Monks while i was Tanking in front of the Mob while hte Monk was beating on his back LOL...
If i get outdamaged by a Monk, its usually because im tanking the Mob and Monk is in back without the dodges and reposte or maybe Mob is very highly Cold resistant....
But all things being equal i cant ever remember being outdmaged by any Monk...
Edited, Thu Jun 12 13:05:10 2003
Celestial Fist is basically just a permanent 40% Haste for all weapons...i see nothing to cry about there....
as for this..
Next time you're grouping with an epic monk...nicely ask him to use just fists...turn on "others hits" filter and enjoy the spam. 8) This weapon is nice but doesn't replace our epic. OMG laugh!! And now think about the other nice H2H weapons out there with 16/19, 17/20 or 17/19 ratios that 'are' monk useable. Quickly doing the math that's 16/13, 17/14 and 17/13 self hasted. God that's nasty
Next time your grouping with a high level Beastlord, Nicely ask him to self haste (40-50%) minimum, thats "without" any haste items which is pretty rare for a high lvl Beast not to have a haste item, so Beast is always usually no less than 65% to 85+% self hasted...and thats not counting Frenzy of Spirit (99+% Haste plus 332ATK for 1 min every 11 min )and add Savagery another +135ATK.....So a Beast during a fight can be easily 99+% self Hasted with his ATK well in excess of 1800+ATK...(iam currently at just over 1800 self buffed)
Then turn on "others hits" filter and between He and his his Pet enjoy the battle spam that easily rivals any Monk...
Hmm 100+% self hasted...that would make these Beast claws what? something like 13/9? or 13/10 whatever the cap is
God thats nastIER
Dark...why would i forget basically 1/2 my char?
That would be like a Monk equiping a Opal encrusted stien in his Offhand and not using Kicks DOH!
I have my pet ALL the time...Never without...not during fights or raids anyway...
Ive gone "toe to toe" with several Monks lately....dropped them all quickly...
If i get a FOL to stick which usually it does sometime or another thats all she wrote...I just keep lighting him up, dotting, debuffing, slowing, while my pet is tearing his **** up, i pop a heal on my Pet once in awhile if need be, once he uses his Mend its over.
My pet fully Buffed can have up to 7000HPs i currently have 6400HPs plus 305+ AGI and CA3& LR5 i get missed ALOT and at some point my pet usually /shields me taking 50% of the Damage...
Ive done more damage than several Monks while i was Tanking in front of the Mob while hte Monk was beating on his back LOL...
If i get outdamaged by a Monk, its usually because im tanking the Mob and Monk is in back without the dodges and reposte or maybe Mob is very highly Cold resistant....
But all things being equal i cant ever remember being outdmaged by any Monk...
Edited, Thu Jun 12 13:05:10 2003
33 posts
Just wanted to add a few facts to cats post..ferocity is 201 atk, there is no haste on frenzy of spirit ( not noticeable haste anyway ), other thean that totally right, bsts rock monks, i'm sry its true, overall that is...they are prob very slighty higher dps, but they dont have slow/fer/para/nukes/SD do they, and yes I am a 65 Bst.
Frenzy of Spirit
Slot Description
7: Increase Attack Speed by 99%
8: Increase ATK by 250
Mana: 0
Casting Time: 0
Recast Time: 2.25
Fizzle Time: 2.25
Range: 0
Location: Any
Time of Day: Any
Interruptable: Yes
Short Buff Box: No Target
Type: Self
Spell Type: Beneficial
Source: Live 11/05
Classes: None
Duration: 8 ticks
Cast on you: Your body channels the spirits of battle.
Cast on other: Someone goes mad with the power of the spirits.
Wears off: The spirits depart.
Grabbed this from the Lucy Database, so yes this spell DOES have a haste component, quite a large one at that.
Slot Description
7: Increase Attack Speed by 99%
8: Increase ATK by 250
Mana: 0
Casting Time: 0
Recast Time: 2.25
Fizzle Time: 2.25
Range: 0
Location: Any
Time of Day: Any
Interruptable: Yes
Short Buff Box: No Target
Type: Self
Spell Type: Beneficial
Source: Live 11/05
Classes: None
Duration: 8 ticks
Cast on you: Your body channels the spirits of battle.
Cast on other: Someone goes mad with the power of the spirits.
Wears off: The spirits depart.
Grabbed this from the Lucy Database, so yes this spell DOES have a haste component, quite a large one at that.
21 posts
You might be playing on a PvP server, and I don't know the rules for those. But on AB (and prolly all 'blue' servers) you may not heal your pet in a duel. You can cast the spell, but you will get no message, and your warder does not gain HP.
So you either have to kill your oponent before he kills your pet, or cast and buff another.
So you either have to kill your oponent before he kills your pet, or cast and buff another.
Perhaps he does his PC fighting in an Arena, like a civilized being... Why would one test one's PvP skills through duelling, when the arena in the bazaar (or any other) is there for just that? The only reason to duel someone anymore, is if you're a melee class wanting to fight anyone with healing spells of any kind, and you want to put them at a disadvantage.
Elder CrocHuntah!
Feral Lord
Knight of Zek
Elder CrocHuntah!
Feral Lord
Knight of Zek
Yeah dont forget the pet, cause thats the only way in hell yer comin close to damage that monks do ALL the time, and if i'm not mistaken monks now get triple attack. BL's do have higher dps BUT only because of yer pet....toe to toe a monk will woop yah far as pure mele goes. BL's have spells and a pet and thats what out does a monk NOT your mele.
i could also write out a sensible and witty response to this ignorant post... but since it's so very stupid... i decided to go ahead and say that Dark is a ******* moron and just leave it at that... thank you
Scholar
23 posts
As much as I hate to dignify your message with a response, I couldn't resist. I could just as well leave it with a resounding 'Duh!', but I won't.
Of course without a pet a monk could beat a beastlord, the pet is an integral part of the class. Do you also like watching monks go after mages who aren't allowed to use there pets? Or lets step it up a notch, do you like watching monks go after druids who aren't allowed to use spells? What you fail to realize is that the classes come as a COMPLETE package. As far as pet classes go, magicians and necromancers got the spell power and the pet, beastlords got melee power with pets. Beastlords aren't as potent in melee alone as other classes, that's because we have a pet. It wouldn't be fair if we had the full fighting abilities of a monk, the casting ability of a full shaman, and a good pet all rolled into one.
To sum it all up, remember to take the class as a whole package, lest you find yourself running through the woods away from a foe, with out all of your abilities.
Garizbane Thraisfury
52 Enchanter
Saryrn
Chotalik Redundant
51 Beastlord
Saryrn
Of course without a pet a monk could beat a beastlord, the pet is an integral part of the class. Do you also like watching monks go after mages who aren't allowed to use there pets? Or lets step it up a notch, do you like watching monks go after druids who aren't allowed to use spells? What you fail to realize is that the classes come as a COMPLETE package. As far as pet classes go, magicians and necromancers got the spell power and the pet, beastlords got melee power with pets. Beastlords aren't as potent in melee alone as other classes, that's because we have a pet. It wouldn't be fair if we had the full fighting abilities of a monk, the casting ability of a full shaman, and a good pet all rolled into one.
To sum it all up, remember to take the class as a whole package, lest you find yourself running through the woods away from a foe, with out all of your abilities.
Garizbane Thraisfury
52 Enchanter
Saryrn
Chotalik Redundant
51 Beastlord
Saryrn
2 posts
If the item says recommended level 58 then you can't hold it till 58, try and take a lvl 50 warrior and hold a club of ice ocean you can't.
They should have done this when EQ went live SSOY recomended level to use 37 etc they should also make armor the same way it would actually make the game a challange then instead as was already stated a twink fest to see who can get the best gear on a level 1.
Have I twinked a toon yep you damn right but before I could do that I had to get my gear like everyone else there are just somethings that should not be on low level toons.
Nerro Dahirro
60 Hierophant
Dark Whispers
They should have done this when EQ went live SSOY recomended level to use 37 etc they should also make armor the same way it would actually make the game a challange then instead as was already stated a twink fest to see who can get the best gear on a level 1.
Have I twinked a toon yep you damn right but before I could do that I had to get my gear like everyone else there are just somethings that should not be on low level toons.
Nerro Dahirro
60 Hierophant
Dark Whispers
Recommended level does not have any lvl requirements to use, only requirements to get full use of the stats. it is required level which stops people being able to use the wpn.
I know the difference in posting times, i am only doing this so people dont get confused
I know the difference in posting times, i am only doing this so people dont get confused
20 posts
it depends on the item, some you can't use below the level period and some you can w/o the effect and/or lowered stats.
If the item has brackets, eg dmg (7)22 it means you can use below the recommended level but you can't get the full benefit. These are both no drop and recommended level with no alternative stats, you would be unable to wield it till the recommended level in this case.
It is just like spells in EQ basically you can use them at a certain level but ost get ore powerful as you level... So what is the big deal?? you just know when you hit the reccomended level you will be getting the full benefit from the ite.. If Verant would have done this in the first place it would have made this game much more challenging and not just a twink fest...
#REDACTED,
Posted: May 03 2002 at 5:58 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) not very fast is it? i mean c'mon...16 delay? thats insanly slow! give us a break verant!
6 posts
Now just need to make level 58 to equip it, thanks Verant.
Riptar, Level 55 Beastlord
Lotus Cult
Quellious Server
Edited, Fri May 3 15:10:14 2002
Riptar, Level 55 Beastlord
Lotus Cult
Quellious Server
Edited, Fri May 3 15:10:14 2002
well riptar at least it didnt rot like id imagine alot of bst only items.
#REDACTED,
Posted: May 03 2002 at 4:12 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) ya this required lv crap is getting pretty ridiculous... if youre able to get there then you deserve being able to use the item...
32 posts
Ye can equip it just fine at lower than lvl 58, but ye wont get the stats as listed. Ye will get a portion appropriate to the lvl that equips it.
Skitz 50
Skitz 50
True, and what's more I don't think folk lower than 58 will be taking this bad-boy down. Heck, I'd be shocked to see a 58 in the fight, but there might be some reason you would have not yet gained 60, but still be equipped well enough to be in this encounter.... It's a reach.
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