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Grim Pauldrons  
 

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Slot: SHOULDERS
AC: 13
STR: +10
WT: 4.5 Size: MEDIUM
Class: WAR CLR PAL SHD BER
Race: ALL
Slot 1, Type 7 (General: Group)
Item Type:Armor
Stackable:No
Submitted By:Doromir
Lucy Entry By:Tiana
Item Updated By:SwiftyMUSE
Source:Live
IC Last Updated:2020-06-12 11:26:26
Page Updated:Thu Oct 9th, 2008
Ruins of Kunark Item


Rarity: Rare
Level to Attain: 45

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Ber wearable
# Feb 23 2004 at 4:01 PM Rating: Default
Bezerkers can wear too
palidan wearable now
# Apr 02 2002 at 10:15 AM Rating: Decent
This is now Paladin wearable. Got one 4/1/2002 and listed War/SK/Cle/Pal.
RE: palidan wearable now
# Aug 04 2002 at 11:42 AM Rating: Decent
I would like to concur on this one, I got them 2 nights ago hunting for Seb Keys.
#Anonymous, Posted: Sep 07 2001 at 10:58 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) lol who cares if its grim lol, whoever says can wear it can wear it
#Anonymous, Posted: May 17 2001 at 4:34 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Why would a Paladin be able to wear something GRIM?? Hmmm?? That would make him/her an SK then. :) Oh .. yep SKs can wear. :)
RE: Grim = Evil
# Aug 04 2001 at 12:48 PM Rating: Default
Umm so? Lots of weapons and stuff that have odd names to them and paladins could use.... and the fact that clerics could use it... I mean overall there is no such thing as an EVIL cleric.. no matter how you see it.. yes it's a roleplaying game.. but doesn't mean there can't be evil paladins.. roleplaying is how you roleplay, doesn't matter what you are really.
RE: Grim = Evil
# Mar 07 2003 at 11:24 AM Rating: Good
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but doesn't mean there can't be evil paladins


Completely and totally wrong. You were half-right with your argument. Remember this is a video game and generally that in itself is all the excuse needed to blur the lines between fact and fiction. However, Paladin, the word "Paladin", represents good and the epitome of chivalry.

Their opposites are Dark Paladins, or in EQ words, the Shadow Knight (who don't have the healing touch). There is no such thing as an evil Paladin. Any Paladin who heads in the wrong direction on the road will lose his or her's powers immediately and become an ordinary fighter. That said, your RP argument is null.


By the way, Grim does not necessarily mean evil. Grim can be stern and unyielding and most Paladins, the fanatical ones, are of such traits.
RE: Grim = Evil
# Aug 23 2005 at 11:43 PM Rating: Decent
20 posts
Nope, he is completely right.

Do you think a Dark Elf would consider himself "evil"? Nope.

In EQ the "evil" gods can grant the same healing powers as the good ones (clerics of Inny, Bertox, Cazic), so I always thought they should be able to have paladins serving them as well. Yes, evil Paladins not anti-paladins, or Shadowknights as they are called.

An evil character can follow a code of honor or chivalry as logically as a good one. In DnD terms you'd call that a "lawful evil" character.
RE: Grim = Evil
# Jan 08 2004 at 3:15 AM Rating: Decent
Appearently you've never played on a pvp server... Trust me, there is such a thing as an "evil pallidan." So what does it mean when an elven race pally is killed by a human pally or dwarven pally?
RE: Grim = Evil
# Mar 07 2003 at 9:36 AM Rating: Default
paladins ARE "inherently "good."" "A paragon of chivalry; a heroic champion"
RE: Grim = Evil
# Sep 02 2001 at 5:27 PM Rating: Decent
This is platemail, meaning bards, warriors, Sk's, clerics and pally's may wear it.
But its what I like to call "evil" equipment, so "good" classes cant wear (hence no bards and pallys) (and yes there are a number of "good" equipments as well). This leaves it with shadow knights, warriors and clerics. Why? because unlike paladins and bards, these class's aren't inherently "good" (dark elf, human and erudite clerics can be evil to my knowledge, and many warriors can be evil. And all sk's are evil)
RE: Grim = Evil
# Aug 20 2002 at 2:27 AM Rating: Decent
Actually, my Sk guildie got this last night and PALA could use it. Pretty nice shoulder piece. Too bad I wasn't on my Pala when it dropped.
No evil clerics? what?
# Aug 13 2001 at 8:55 PM Rating: Default
No such thing as an evil cleric? What? Have you never seen a Dark elf cleric, last I checked Inorruk was evil, being that inkie priests would worship Inorruk, kinda figures that they'd be evil too...
grim pauldrons
# Apr 13 2001 at 12:33 AM Rating: Decent
Why would the fact that pallys can't wear this item be unbalancing? There are items that pallys can use that sks cannot. I have a marr's promise shield that i would like to use, but is pally only. Is that unbalancing? I don't really care, however...i have these on my sk and they are great!
RE: grim pauldrons
# Jul 06 2001 at 1:17 AM Rating: Decent
Actually, Marr's promise shield is not Paladin only. But you are right, Shadow knights cannot use it because, it's a shield Blessed by Mithaniel Marr and shadow knights shouldn't be using an item that is soley used for people who don't raise the dead. So you keep your pauldrons and we'll keep our shield =). Good luck to you.
#REDACTED, Posted: Jan 05 2001 at 7:11 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) rofl, warriors can use, clerics can use, but a warrior/cleric (paladin) cannot use?
#Anonymous, Posted: Apr 05 2001 at 9:53 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I'm glad the pallys got "shafted" on this. I'm tired of them always ******** about wanting this and that to try and be more warrior like. I think Verant made a wise decision in this.
#REDACTED, Posted: Jan 09 2001 at 1:08 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I wish pallys couldn't wear dark mail guantlets either, unless the dark is the color and not the meaning behind the gloves.
RE: haha pallys get shafted
# Jan 09 2001 at 1:07 PM Rating: Default
Pally probably can't use because they are supposed to be "good" and perhaps Verant sees "grim" pauldrons as "evil". I don't care that a high elf warrior can wear them, so don't go there. A paladin is "good" by class, not race.
RE: haha pallys get shafted
# Feb 27 2001 at 10:18 PM Rating: Default
No such animal as high-elf warrior, but i get the point.
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