This is an awesome bow 33 35 no recommendations and not required, not to mention the stats and the wisdom, as a ranger id take this bow in a heart beat upgrade to my twisted long bow, this is on my wish list, but i doubt i will see it, one can only dream
First and foremost my main is a 55 warrior on the Rathe server and I would love to have this bow. Currently I am using the nightmare compound bow and this would be a nice upgrade. That beings said This bow Is a ranger first bow no ifs and or buts. Sure after every ranger in my guild had this or better hell yes I would roll on it. Now for the argument about warriors and bows. IMO it is absolutely vital for a warrior to have a decent bow. My archery is at 216 right now my dex at 219. When I pull with my nightmare I average 95-150 damage with my bow. Normally when pulling the low delay gives me the chance to pop off three or four shots and knock a few hundred hp off the baddie all without costing me hp or anyone mana plus it builds up aggro for me. I normaly group with a ranger, druid, cleric and a few others. And the system works very well.
That said most rangers and monks seem to think that becuase they can outdamage the average melee at the same level they think their ---- don't stink. Get over yourselves not everything is ranger or monk loot much as most of yall think it is. Rangers are an invaluable class and I hate grouping without one. Monks...well if they killed the class off tomorrow I wouldnt miss them at all. I find it pointless that I look up and item and instead of useful information to find nothing but the flaming class for class. Warriors remember the ranger is your friend their dps means less beating down on you...Rangers just remember who is keeping that big nasty from ripping through your paper armor and leaving you as little more than a bloodstain.
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"Famous last words of a Warrior...I'm Bored." Drathos The Rathe
Rangers get priority on ANY bow. Period. Hard to believe there's so much discussion about that.
Warriors should have absolute priority on melee weapons with procs that cause lots of hate, though. That should be a sure thing, just like bows for rangers...but it isn't. I'd get bent if my warrior got passed over for something like a BoC that went to any other class...pallies and SKs can hold taunt just fine without a taunt-proc wep, and nobody else should be swinging one. You sure do see a lot of rangers talking about how they like their taunt-proc 1-handers hehe. So grin and bear it when some (dumb) warrior extols the virtues of his nice bow. As a warrior, I DO sorta like having a decent bow...but no way I'm competing against a ranger for one, especially post-50.
Actually, what's hard to beleive is that in this day and age, this bow is a SERIOUS upgrade for any ranger. A little bit, yes... But what with all the VERY nice bows that are readily accessible for just a few Kpp.... This has nice stats for any class that can use it, +10 to str, sta, dex, and wis plus 50hp/mana isn't anything to be sneezed at... I am using a tallon engraved atm.... I picked it up for about 2.5k on a good deal, then had two drop in tactics the next night. There are also several OTHER good bows, one being rng only, that seem to drop like candy these days. Any ranger who plans on taking it full out will be planning on upgrading to an elem bow within 10 levels of being able to take this guy out... many warriors, pally's and SKs might use this till they are elem flagged. I certainly wouldn't roll on it.. not because I'm uber.. I'm far from it... but there are FAR better bows available to me, that will maximise my DPS. But, as has been said many times.... It's all up to whoever is in charge of loot when this drops. /shrug.
not all of us have even 2.5K, sadly at level 53, to spend on a bow...so a nice drop like that is welcome, anyway, it has a very good ratio and even better range.
Lol so true so true... Although I love it when people actually talk nice about he ranger class. So your alright in my book... woot and hope u get this bow.. I know I would love it..
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Posted:Jul 09 2003 at 4:14 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) /g Oh me? I have the BOW OF DOOM dude :) Just so you know I dont Phu$k around you slackers. Enough talk time to kill!
Tis a nice ranger item, and is best placed in the hands of one, as they can use all the stats here and have a high archery skill. I would not pass on being awarded this however, its a nice item for anyone with high archery.
Dropped for CM last night. We've killed Doomypants many times and just never seen this bow. Gotten I think 3 earrings vs the one bow drop, so pretty damn rare.
This Bow is sweet for any class that can use it. But honestly I play a 60 warrior and this bow is ranger first and formost. That said I was lucky enough to be awarded this bow after my guild took down DS one day, and why, cause every ranger in guild had it already. Thats how a warrior should get it. I do diddly poo for DPS with it, high crit of 180 while pulling, big deal, but in the hands of a ranger watch out.
Ok this deffinately would benefit a ranger the most. Then maybe a warrior second and then a paladin. The stats would be great for a Paladin (mana and wis) but our max skill with a bow is 75 so pretty useless in the higher end game. Once you max it out you really can't hit anything with it. So for damage it goes ranger>warrior>rogue>paladin or shadowknight but for the stats alone it goes ranger>paladin>warrior or rogue>shadowknight.
Archery and Disarm. Two of the most worthless skills for a post 40 paladin or shadowknight. Raise the flippin' maxes pls verant.
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Posted:Dec 08 2002 at 11:22 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Couldn't have said it better myself. Crappy disarm skill - wtf ? I still haven't tried it - what a waste!
hmm... silly warrior, maybe you forgot YOUR placement on the melee damage table ) hate to say it, but ranger > warrior damage wise any given day, ranged or melee.
Im forced to agree, i droped like a 7th grader fighting mike tyson all the time. Before i learned the rangers most important skill. Not Melee Not casting, Not archery. The most important thing to learn is Agro control, how to gain it, how to lose it, how to maintain it at just the right level, etc. If you can learn that, combined with excellent damage output makes rangers one of the best classes to play period.
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Posted:Oct 06 2002 at 6:37 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) You guys are all IDIOTS! This is by far the very best MONK bow in game! (O.o)
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Posted:Nov 11 2002 at 1:38 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I REALLY hope you are being sarcastic on this stupid statement of yours. 'Cause if your not, YOU are the idiot. Where do you see ANYWHERE on this bow that it says MONK? As someone who has at least one of each of the characters that can use this bow, as well as a Monk, this bow should ALWAYS go to the Rangers first and foremost. If they don't want it, because they already have something better, then it should go to a Warrior 2nd, and then either the Pally or SK. Granted, this bow has lots of good stats, and anyone who could equip it would benefit from it, the Ranger would get the best benefit. Hands down. As someone else has already said, Rangers need the Mana and Wisdom this bow gives. Warriors and SKs do not. Sure, a Pally would benefit from the Wisdom and Mana too, but they'll never be able to utilize the full potential of this weapon ever. So yeah, Flame me if you want too, but the fact is, Rangers first.
This bow is RANGER BOW! I dont care how flamed i may get...but. With dex and hp and many many more stats its a MUST for rangers. My guild is raiding umbral plains soon and i kno wif this drops it'll be mine for sure
I'm a Level 60 ranger, with AM1, EQ and a Priceless bow.
On a raid I will be using my bo constantly, were I without EQ, I would be using in the region of a thousand arrows on a raid.
I also have played a L60 warior, with primals, and lots of gear. In raid sutuations, as MT. On ebag of arrows lasted him 2 weeks.
I bow kite in Dungeons for great XP.
Last night BoD dropped for us, a Ranger won it, not a single class other than rangers was involved in the bid.
While it may be true that this bow would be usefull to all the classes listed, it's primary place should be in the hands of a Ranger, more to the point a ranger who does not have BoD, Priceless, Primal, WBoRZ, or BoS.
Once all your guilds Rangers are equipped with them or better, then your Warriors should begin looting them, then the other classes.
Incedentally, I parsed my Archery based DPS vs a far better equipped wariors MELE based DPS, as expected My DPS was around the 130 mark, where as the tanks was around the 60 mark. same mob, same total stats (basically str, dex etc maxed) and same haste. (side note, the wariors DPS with a primal bow, was less than 60)
Now I've said all that, and backed it up, personally if I was on a raid where that dropped, or infact any top end bow, and a Warrior won it, I would be the FIRST to congratulate them.
I agree there is better ac items, or resist items, but changing out is annoying. The greatest thing about this bow is that it has a little bit of everything, and so it never leaves my range slot.
lmao i cant even believe you guys are argueing about this lol.. this is in all respect a ranger item.. no questions asked lol.. "ohhh baby im the MT tank and not only can i now mt with my hit points but i can get good dmg pulling yay go me! lol.. hahah yea right! and as for warriors needing upgrades on the stats? if you are fighting this mob.. and your MT warrior needs upgrades on his stats .. its time to find a new MT.. seriously.. lol.. ranger item..
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Posted:Aug 18 2002 at 1:50 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Rangers ARE useless ..why? because 90% of the rangers give themselves that bad name..i cant remember how many times ive grped in seb and a ranger was the ONLY snarer in grp and when the frog runs away hes like "duuuh oh IM on snare duty??" do you morons even use ANY of your spells?? you're NOT pure tanks! use your damn spells idiots...rangers cant MT for too long, they dont snare mobs when they are the ONLY snarer, they dont use their bow and only melee, and they DONT know how to group with rogues! stay the hell away from behind the mob..thats our area NOOBS!
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Posted:Aug 06 2002 at 6:55 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) If yer talking 60s, and the aa game, a ranger without a bow is quite useless--yes, it's true.
Maybe i m wrong but AoW isn t killable by all guild s on your server, The bow of Doom is a real good bow for guild which can handle doomshade.
Personnally, on my server Torvonnilous, Only 3 guilds can kill AoW (the third killed it yesterday), my own guild only can handle Doom without problems and had some difficulties to kill the Statue at the moment.
So i think the AoW bow is only a great bow to any ranger if u can kill Aow btw doom bow is very nice for any ranger as they are always looking for Wis and Dex :) I don t say it not a warriro bow but i think ranger must gt it before a warrior.
gerald you have to be the most stupid ignorant misinformed person in EQ history, i feel sorry for your guild and all the ppl that group with you. you must be one of the ones that go to velks and lvl to 60 and learn nothing at all. with my epic and fleeting quiver i can easily burn thru about 160 arrows in under 8 mins, now if you have to shoot 160 arrows to get a few mobs off your monk then get a new monk,but honestly i bet your prolly about 13 years old with a lvl 1 "warlord" and dreams in your pocket, so on behalf of allt he other rangers out there i heartily offer you a big tall warm glass of shut the hell up. kthxbye
I'll jump in her though it's been hacked to death already. Rangers should be allowed first oppurtunity to this bow. Unless they have primal, Bow of the Silver Fang??, there is no question that this bow will be best used by rangers.
Someone mentioned warriors should use too. The range stats are good. Well there are range slot items that are equal too or better than this bow. Of course loot rules are different everywhere, but with a bow like this and it's stats, I am not allowed to roll on range slot items. Of course being a ranger, I am happy to sit with this bow in my range slot for stats.
In the end Guilds and raids usually will benefit gain the most benefits from well equipped ranger with TS.
"Well there are range slot items that are equal too or better than this bow."
That is a ridiculous reason for ranger's to get this bow first. The reason it will go to a ranger before anyone else is because it's a great bow. You do not give CBoL to a shadowknight just because they can use it, and warriors can get better.
ok this should be the first last and only message on this board i am a ranger of tunar and when my guild takes this guy down if anyone even sugests for a moment i roll againced a pally rouge or worior i will drop them where thay stand and disband from guild you would literaly have to be retarded to even have to think about this but if you do listen up if you are a worior weilding a 2hs wep of 33/35 you can double attack and have the chance to crit and that is the equivalent to a ranger with this bow from a distance not taking aria effects and leaving the clarics with extra mana to heal you AND you wont have to ***** thay keep taking agro from you on the mob! end of discusion . a ranger may not double att with a bow but the bow will do double dam after 50 or 55 on mobs you shoot and with archery 3 and trueshot a ranger could do a grand total of up to 1500 points a shot with this bow when you can do that than you can thinkin bout rollin againced one when it drops!
I have yet to see a warrior in my guild hit any mob in my guild hit Tormax 5 times over 1k dmg with 5 one shot a piece, when that happens then you can say hey, we need a nice bow, until then, tagging you just need a decent long ranged bow with low delay, Most competent warriors switch out the bow right after a tag for an idol or such, so just STFU how warriors need this bow, if they did then people wouldn't merit it to rangers.
i agree with you drox, but only because i have seen a ranger stay out of the melee and just shoot her bow and was crit'ing for 800+ while regular hits were around 400, which is more damage than she would have done in melee. not to mention on any encounter where ae is involved the ranger would stay out of the ae which frees up more mana for healing the tanks.
I play neither, but I would not rule out giving this to a warrior, if I was in charge of loot.
Yes a warrior can not put the damage to good use, but look at it this way. Warriors at times need to equip a bow, and this is one of the best bows in the game for a warrior, because it has hp, sta and resists.
This bow WILL make a MT better at doing his job, and each guild will need to decide at the time it drops, if a small increase in MT performance is more important than a decend increase in a rangers achery damage output.
Ranger loot. End of question, there shall be no arguement, no flaming. Give the damn bow to the rangers.
And for you whining other melees' that use a bow just for pulling...shut up and quit yer whining. Cause until you can out damage me with a bow, its mine! =P
Baron Douleur Darkmyst Half-Elf Warder of Karana Raid Officer of Waking Vengeance Fennin Ro