Ally is at 1900/2000. The best place BY FAR is in ruined city of dranik. All of the underground complexes especially but the whole zone is fantastic. One room in the top right corner, the last far room has like 25 mobs, but I circle the zone and get repop right after I get back.
Edited, Dec 5th 2020 5:54pm by NakorsReprieve
Dranik Loyalists
13 posts
It took me 1979 kills to go from KOS to ally. I think Anguish is the best place since there are lots of mobs and most seem to give the faction hit. Nobles Causeway is also good once you learn the circuit for faction mobs.
toopk 1000 kills to go from dubious to warly so i think ur kill /faction ratio is a little off....and this is from mobs in dranik scar also i found out pulling all the mobs up top by nc which is bout 55 mobs that give loyalist faction and then running over to where blood field zone is and pull that long area of mobs is bout another 35-40 mobs and just keep doing that youll get close to 100mobs every 22 min or what ever the exact respawn timer is
Were is a good spot for AFK factioning? Ive found a spot were i get 5 to aggro but thats it.
Does the Anguish trash mobs give more than 1 faction hit?
Does the Anguish trash mobs give more than 1 faction hit?
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I saw on a mechant kyv hearts when i was doing this faction, i knew about the turn in quest for the kyv hearts, so i bought all his kyv hearts for 50 plat a piece. I bought about 10-20 stacks of 20. I turned them all in and... garbage! He still coned dubiously. I thought that questing faction would be better than kill mobs for faction, but its obviously not.
Scholar
41 posts
Going off of a previous post about the numbers of mobs killed between factions, and I quote:
Indifferent to Amiable 70 kills (+/- 25)
Amiable to Kindly 350 kills (+/- 25)
Kindly to Warmly 200 kills (+/- 25)
This information was very helpful. I decided to keep track after I reached Kindly faction. After every train I killed I counted the number of corpses I looted and wrote it down in a spread sheet to keep track of. This is what I came up with:
Kindly to Warmly between 237 and 271 kills
Warmly to Ally between 304 and 348 kills
From Kindly to Warmly I spent most of my time in Noble's Causeway, with brief visits to Dranik's Scar and Wall of Slaughter.
From Warmly to Ally I spent all of my time in Noble's Causeway. I could pull trains of up to 30 mobs that give faction and mow them down then move on to the next spot. Ferans, Bazus, and Murkgliders did not give faction, but Dragorns, Kyv, Noc, Ikaav, and Akuan did, and there were plenty of those around. Levitate makes the terrain manageable and after killing close to 600 mobs there I found it pretty easy to navigate. I picked up a ton of gems (a little over 13k worth going from apprehensive to ally)and Flawed, Elaborate, and Intricate Defiant pieces for alts.
I hope this information helps. Good luck!
Edited, Jan 27th 2012 12:34am by Sevlore
Indifferent to Amiable 70 kills (+/- 25)
Amiable to Kindly 350 kills (+/- 25)
Kindly to Warmly 200 kills (+/- 25)
This information was very helpful. I decided to keep track after I reached Kindly faction. After every train I killed I counted the number of corpses I looted and wrote it down in a spread sheet to keep track of. This is what I came up with:
Kindly to Warmly between 237 and 271 kills
Warmly to Ally between 304 and 348 kills
From Kindly to Warmly I spent most of my time in Noble's Causeway, with brief visits to Dranik's Scar and Wall of Slaughter.
From Warmly to Ally I spent all of my time in Noble's Causeway. I could pull trains of up to 30 mobs that give faction and mow them down then move on to the next spot. Ferans, Bazus, and Murkgliders did not give faction, but Dragorns, Kyv, Noc, Ikaav, and Akuan did, and there were plenty of those around. Levitate makes the terrain manageable and after killing close to 600 mobs there I found it pretty easy to navigate. I picked up a ton of gems (a little over 13k worth going from apprehensive to ally)and Flawed, Elaborate, and Intricate Defiant pieces for alts.
I hope this information helps. Good luck!
Edited, Jan 27th 2012 12:34am by Sevlore
Sevlore Fisti`cuffs
100 Ashenhand
<Eye of Eternity>
Erolisi Marr
100 Ashenhand
<Eye of Eternity>
Erolisi Marr
Great information. I've been clearing Anguish every few hours. It's about a hundred mobs each run after the first one when I cleared all the way to Mata Muran. Got my robe piece the first run, the three pieces of fruit, the second clear. I've killed 1400 mobs per my slayer achievement window and am finally at warmly. I figure three to four more anguish runs and I'll be there.
Scholar
41 posts
[Edit] Double post. Sorry!
Edited, Jan 27th 2012 12:31am by Sevlore
Edited, Jan 27th 2012 12:31am by Sevlore
Sevlore Fisti`cuffs
100 Ashenhand
<Eye of Eternity>
Erolisi Marr
100 Ashenhand
<Eye of Eternity>
Erolisi Marr
Scholar
46 posts
Well. Got my vest from AMV yesterday for my necro main.
Soon after i went and checked my faction, i was KoS. So i started the long faction grind. 7 hours, and 45 minutes later i am now max Ally with Dranik Loyalists, now i need to farm the gay fruit. I don't think that one will be as easy.
--Killegore
85th Necromancer of Prxus
Soon after i went and checked my faction, i was KoS. So i started the long faction grind. 7 hours, and 45 minutes later i am now max Ally with Dranik Loyalists, now i need to farm the gay fruit. I don't think that one will be as easy.
--Killegore
85th Necromancer of Prxus
13 posts
This faction grind is officially driving me crazy :). Still, it'll be worth it in the end.
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Well finally made it. What an awful faction grind. I must have spent about 36 - 48 hours of game time doing this.
This is what happens when you put expansions out so fast without planing for what gonna happen when oow is 4 expansions back.you make a toon and hang out where everyone else is,and its not in oow.
when i first coned the armor guy in DS i was at scowl,lol.this account is 1.8 years old and we started raiding anguish like 6 months ago.so it took me 1.2 years of play to casualy get to kindly,what i coned just before i steped into anguish.on a good note.i think it only took like 7-10 raids in AoA to get to max ally.I think the bosses give ya huge faction hits.
I have seen it parsed out in places and it is around 5k mobs from scowl to max ally,if memory serves.
when i first coned the armor guy in DS i was at scowl,lol.this account is 1.8 years old and we started raiding anguish like 6 months ago.so it took me 1.2 years of play to casualy get to kindly,what i coned just before i steped into anguish.on a good note.i think it only took like 7-10 raids in AoA to get to max ally.I think the bosses give ya huge faction hits.
I have seen it parsed out in places and it is around 5k mobs from scowl to max ally,if memory serves.
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Ok I'm a 71 cleric and I've gone through Anguish a more than 6 times and we killed at least 2 to 3 mobs each time and I'm still dubiously to Trelak. Do I not get the faction hits if I don't cause damage even if I'm healing the tank?
17 posts
You get faction hits if you are on the mob's agro list when it dies. If you have healing agro reduction AAs, the there is a good chance a lot of your healing is completely ignored - they reduce the chance of mobs _noticing_ your healing and if they don't notice, they don't agro.
I've done Anguish about 7 or 8 times, and I make a point of trying to get on as many monsters' agro as possible - spot heals, swinging a hammer until I hit etc. - I'm amiable atm. This is an annoying faction :-(
I've done Anguish about 7 or 8 times, and I make a point of trying to get on as many monsters' agro as possible - spot heals, swinging a hammer until I hit etc. - I'm amiable atm. This is an annoying faction :-(
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Yeah I finally figured it out as we ran through I started smackin mobs with my hammer or a retribution spell and I've gone from threateningly to amiable in only a couple of raids some of which were trials that we did again for fun. Thanks for the input.
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Do you get more Faction Hits in the higher level zones like WoS or MPG v/s DS?
I've heard it does vary by zone, can anyone confirm ?
Sure you slaughter faster in DS but if the mobs in MPG are giving you 6-10 hits per kill as well as actual XP then it might be worth it.
I've heard it does vary by zone, can anyone confirm ?
Sure you slaughter faster in DS but if the mobs in MPG are giving you 6-10 hits per kill as well as actual XP then it might be worth it.
the only zone i have noticed an extreme faction lvl is anguish.. 3 runs through anguish killing upto OMM but not killing him i want from doubiously to max alli other than that.. ya gotta kill thousands of mobs to get faction up.. sometimes it takes many weeks of grinding faction mobs.
I don't know about that. When oow first came out I lived in NC for weeks farming runes for 4 bots. And my faction didn't move. Was the drunt/aggressive camp. I think there is 4 behind the quest npc and another 4 ahead of it. The drunt ph was another. I killed the murks to but dragorn were my primary targets. Pretty sure 1 faction hit is 1 faction hit. Unless it's an item hand in. I know it's unrelated but the Thurg quest hand ins did 50 faction. Who knows, maybe the quests here are the same.
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I just hit ally. It took me roughly 415 kills to move from warmly to ally. Sorry, not sure on the numbers for other stages. I did one armor turn in (monk head piece). Spent the past week doing nearly nothing but faction work and managed to move from dubious to ally by killing thousands of low lvl mobs in Draniks. Good luck to everyone! Also, between kindly and warmly I turned in about 10 Kyv Hearts and 25 Seeping Murkglider Fluid's and it didn't really do me much good. Don't waste your money or time getting the quest items.
Scholar
37 posts
I've been 2 boxing DS, NC, and RCOD with a warrior/cleric. The warrior is now kindly but the cleric is still dubious. I've been careful to tag every kill with the cleric so why is the Warrior so far ahead of the cleric? Could it be related to race/religion?
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noc sharpblade in dranic scar also gives good dranic loayalist faction when you kill it
21 posts
Have a 70 druid who can solo the named in DS and i was wondering if the named give a bigger faction hit? equal to two or three maybe, or are they the same as the other mobs?
5 posts
OK this is very frustrating. Been working on this faction for 6months. Been dubious THAT long. when straight from there to indifferent. Went to bed last night happy because my faction finally changed. Get up this morning. I am dubious again. What is up with this?? Can someone help?
were you invisible when you checked your faction with him? if so you are always indifferent if a mob doesn't see invis
add an elite ukun deathfang, an elite ikaav binder, and a lightning warrior diodite... they give positive faction
Edited, Fri Nov 18 05:13:50 2005
Edited, Fri Nov 18 05:13:50 2005
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I have been keeping track of how many mobs are needed to kill to get from one faction level to another. Unfortunately, I only started after Dubious.
Indifferent to Amiable 70 kills (+/- 25)
Amiable to Kindly 350 kills (+/- 25)
Kindly to Warmly 200 kills (+/- 25)
I added the +/- cause I would check every 25-50 mobs depending on time.
All faction was done in Dranik Scar at lvl 65 at the BF zone. Almost all mobs were LB cons.
As a Warrior, making sure you tag all mobs so you get the faction hit can be a challenge. I went to Lavastorm and purchased the Lvl 61 DoN Disc "Whirlwind Blade". I used that a great deal while factioning because it does a single atk dmg on all mobs in a small radius of you. Make sure they are nicely bunched up when you use it. It does generate good aggro so hopefully you have a decent healer.
Factioning this way makes it go by very fast. In total, I spent maybe 5-6 days (3-5 hrs per session).
Edited, Mon Oct 24 12:29:27 2005
Indifferent to Amiable 70 kills (+/- 25)
Amiable to Kindly 350 kills (+/- 25)
Kindly to Warmly 200 kills (+/- 25)
I added the +/- cause I would check every 25-50 mobs depending on time.
All faction was done in Dranik Scar at lvl 65 at the BF zone. Almost all mobs were LB cons.
As a Warrior, making sure you tag all mobs so you get the faction hit can be a challenge. I went to Lavastorm and purchased the Lvl 61 DoN Disc "Whirlwind Blade". I used that a great deal while factioning because it does a single atk dmg on all mobs in a small radius of you. Make sure they are nicely bunched up when you use it. It does generate good aggro so hopefully you have a decent healer.
Factioning this way makes it go by very fast. In total, I spent maybe 5-6 days (3-5 hrs per session).
Edited, Mon Oct 24 12:29:27 2005
12 posts
exactly how many nocs,kyvs,ukun's,and evil mobs do u hve to kill to get ally.
39 posts
More... :)
Anyone else seem like they lost faction with the new expansion? I am certain I was at warmly, remember doing little victory dance, having a little party, etc... about a month before DoD came out. Went back tonight to do turn in for boots, and am at kindly. There's mighty few ways to lower faction for loyalist, and I've not engaged in any of those, at least to my knowledge. Altogether a frustrating thing to discover... :(
Anyone else seem like they lost faction with the new expansion? I am certain I was at warmly, remember doing little victory dance, having a little party, etc... about a month before DoD came out. Went back tonight to do turn in for boots, and am at kindly. There's mighty few ways to lower faction for loyalist, and I've not engaged in any of those, at least to my knowledge. Altogether a frustrating thing to discover... :(
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i also lost faction :(
18 posts
My faction is stuck on -- with these guys. thats so anoying that it dont even have a name.
Something I don't understand is why people go to NC for faction raids when DS has just as many if not more of the faction mobs that are much easier to kill.
Faction Raids are the best way to raise loyalist faction. Just grab at least 1 high level enchanter. Prefer 2 tho. A couple wizzys, dru's, clerics, bards, and anyone esle wanting to come...Grab about 40 nocs, ukuns, kyvs and AE stun/nuke/dot em down. It's REALLY easy and infact quite fulfilling lol.
But back to my question...why do NC where there is more of a risk and less mobs. You get credit for the faction hit regardless of the mobs level. I went from dubious to amibly in about 3 hours of Faction raiding in DS at the bloodfields zoneline. Best to setup there. Less traffic and risk of killing people.
Faction Raids are the best way to raise loyalist faction. Just grab at least 1 high level enchanter. Prefer 2 tho. A couple wizzys, dru's, clerics, bards, and anyone esle wanting to come...Grab about 40 nocs, ukuns, kyvs and AE stun/nuke/dot em down. It's REALLY easy and infact quite fulfilling lol.
But back to my question...why do NC where there is more of a risk and less mobs. You get credit for the faction hit regardless of the mobs level. I went from dubious to amibly in about 3 hours of Faction raiding in DS at the bloodfields zoneline. Best to setup there. Less traffic and risk of killing people.
Maybe because of the exp? Raid leadership points are very very slow to get, so i can see any raid leader wanting to raid someplace with mobs with exp to make the trawl that little faster.
Having said which, they'd still be better doing the greenies and then spending the extra time they gain elsewhere.
Having said which, they'd still be better doing the greenies and then spending the extra time they gain elsewhere.
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I run three Chr's I decided to use the Shaman to do all the Faction Quest turn ins, so Every Feran Skull, Stolen Clan dodad etc, he has turned in, So in theory he should be ahead by a fair chunk. sure enough he turned Kindly before everyone else... by about 20 faction hits *sigh*
He had done at Amiable
8 Feran skulls
4 Stolen Clan Crests
So I recon these Quests give you 2 or 3 Faction hits per turn in, which given the raratly of the items is piontless.
He had done at Amiable
8 Feran skulls
4 Stolen Clan Crests
So I recon these Quests give you 2 or 3 Faction hits per turn in, which given the raratly of the items is piontless.
This is the faction list that is often used, can't confirm the ranges myself. 1 points represents 1 normal kill. Depending on faction you are working on you MAY get more points from 1 kill. (e.g. raid mobs and such).
Ally = 1450 to 2500
Warmly = 1100 to 1450
Kindly = 750 to 1100
Amiable = 150 to 750
Indifferent = 0 to 150
Apprehensive = 0 to -150
Dubious = -150 to -750
Threateningly = -750 to -1100
Ready to Attack = -1100 to -2500
Ally = 1450 to 2500
Warmly = 1100 to 1450
Kindly = 750 to 1100
Amiable = 150 to 750
Indifferent = 0 to 150
Apprehensive = 0 to -150
Dubious = -150 to -750
Threateningly = -750 to -1100
Ready to Attack = -1100 to -2500
Scholar
17 posts
The original list is:
-2000 to -726, scowls
-725 to -501, threatening
-500 to -101, dubious
-100 to -1, apprehensive
0 to 99, indifferent
100 to 499, amiable
500 to 699, kindly
700 to 1099, warmly
1100 to 2000, ally
These were the values as discovered using SEQ, before it was nerfed a couple years back. These values were the physical numbers as stored on the server and did not reflect a "per-kill" value. The "base" faction is often 1, but does not necissarly mean all are. It is possible these values have changed in the years, but these values were definalty confirmed at one point.
-2000 to -726, scowls
-725 to -501, threatening
-500 to -101, dubious
-100 to -1, apprehensive
0 to 99, indifferent
100 to 499, amiable
500 to 699, kindly
700 to 1099, warmly
1100 to 2000, ally
These were the values as discovered using SEQ, before it was nerfed a couple years back. These values were the physical numbers as stored on the server and did not reflect a "per-kill" value. The "base" faction is often 1, but does not necissarly mean all are. It is possible these values have changed in the years, but these values were definalty confirmed at one point.
I've seen a different list, and this has always seemed to work for me, but I haven't counted closely enough to say conclusively which is right. I am reasonably sure that Apprehensive is only 100 hits though...
Ally : 1100 to 2800
Warmly : 750 to 1099
Kindly : 500 to 749
Amiable : 100 to 499
Indifferent : 0 to 99
Apprehensive : -100 to -1
Dubious: -500 to -101
Threatening: -750 to -501
Scowls: -2800 to -751
Edited, Mon Feb 28 10:09:28 2005
Ally : 1100 to 2800
Warmly : 750 to 1099
Kindly : 500 to 749
Amiable : 100 to 499
Indifferent : 0 to 99
Apprehensive : -100 to -1
Dubious: -500 to -101
Threatening: -750 to -501
Scowls: -2800 to -751
Edited, Mon Feb 28 10:09:28 2005
Scholar
24 posts
This seems to be the one to go by if my experience is accurate.
I counted my kills going from Amiable to Kindly: 381 normal kills, 8 named kills. So roughly 400 to go from Amiable to Warmly which would seem to agree with the list Miakiss posted.
Edited, Sat Oct 15 00:09:46 2005
I counted my kills going from Amiable to Kindly: 381 normal kills, 8 named kills. So roughly 400 to go from Amiable to Warmly which would seem to agree with the list Miakiss posted.
Edited, Sat Oct 15 00:09:46 2005
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I have been killing in DS for 2 days. This may not seem long, but they have been 2 12 hour days. Killing only Noc, Kyv and Ukun and almost non stop killing, I have yet to get out of Threatening. Every person I talk to says I should be at least indiff by now, as I have kept count and am at 1127 kills with positive Faction hits for loyalists. Any clue what is wrong?
The range from max KOS to theatening is huge (over 2000 hits), so it depends on how far into KOS one starts. From what I have read it seems as though it's around 1000 below threatening.
I think threatening to dubious is around 250 hits, so you should get there soon.
Correction to the above:
I've started on this myself and have been logging my faction hits.
After 600 hits I am at dubious, so the starting faction must be higher than I thought. I'm not sure why you are still threatening, unless different races/religions/classes have different base factions (which seems unlikely), or I have been getting more than one faction hit per kill in The Bloodfields (also unlikely).
Another possibility is that the named give bigger hits. I have killed around 12 named as part of those 600 hits.
Edit - Finally hit Warmly. It was around 1600 faction hits altogether.
Edited, Thu Apr 21 06:36:13 2005
I think threatening to dubious is around 250 hits, so you should get there soon.
Correction to the above:
I've started on this myself and have been logging my faction hits.
After 600 hits I am at dubious, so the starting faction must be higher than I thought. I'm not sure why you are still threatening, unless different races/religions/classes have different base factions (which seems unlikely), or I have been getting more than one faction hit per kill in The Bloodfields (also unlikely).
Another possibility is that the named give bigger hits. I have killed around 12 named as part of those 600 hits.
Edit - Finally hit Warmly. It was around 1600 faction hits altogether.
Edited, Thu Apr 21 06:36:13 2005
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