The following quests require Coldain faction

Quest Name Minimum Faction Required Maximum Faction Allowed
Bard Thurgadin Armor Kindly Max Ally
Beastlord Thurgadin Armor Kindly Max Ally
Berserker Thurgadin Armor Kindly Max Ally
Cleric Thurgadin Armor Kindly Max Ally
Custom Plate Helms - Thurgadin Amiable
Druid Thurgadin Armor Kindly Max Ally
EQ Seventh Anniversary Scavenger Hunt (Dwarves) Amiable
Enchanter Thurgadin Armor Kindly Max Ally
Magician Thurgadin Armor Kindly Max Ally
Monk Thurgadin Armor Kindly Max Ally
Necromancer Thurgadin Armor Kindly Max Ally
Paladin Thurgadin Armor Kindly Max Ally
Ranger Thurgadin Armor Kindly Max Ally
Rogue Thurgadin Armor Kindly Max Ally
Shadowknight Thurgadin Armor Kindly Max Ally
Shaman Thurgadin Armor Kindly Max Ally
Warrior Thurgadin Armor Kindly Max Ally
Wizard Thurgadin Armor Kindly Max Ally

Zones in which you can raise the faction

Zones in which you can lower the faction

NPCs you can kill to raise the faction

Quests you can do to raise the faction

NPCs you kill to lower the faction

Quests you do to lower the faction

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Fastest camp to raise?
# Jul 21 2004 at 10:27 AM Rating: Decent
Trying to up my faction after killing Dain 2x (hehe)

Was just wondering which camp has the best faction hits to raise Coldain; Kael, EW fort, or GD fort... I camp the Kael arena alot to raise my CoV faction but for some reason arena giants dont give Coldain hits =/

or any named's who give HUGE hits (much alike vindi for CoV)
Ekelng Thunderstone
# Jul 10 2004 at 5:21 PM Rating: Decent
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I was killing frost giants in Eastern Wastes today trying to build my Coldain faction (shame on me for all those Dain raids).. And when I killed Ekelng Thunderstone I did not receive any faction message. All it said was "You have slain Ekelng Thunderstone." I don't know if that is a bug in the game or if it is that he gives no faction modification.
# May 20 2003 at 2:26 PM Rating: Decent
i was wondering by killing giant i can raise ToV and coldain faction, if i start killing coldain can i raise my ToV and giant faction at same time?
RE: question
# Mar 09 2004 at 12:44 PM Rating: Decent
If you kill Coldain, you will raise your Giant Faction, but not raise your Claws of Veeshan (ToV) faction.

CoV (ToV) and Coldain have a loose alliance, they both share a hatred of The Giants. It's an "Enemy of an enemy" kind of thing.
KOS to Coldain
# Jun 28 2002 at 12:16 AM Rating: Default

I was in GD and was attacked by Coldain and Coldain wolves. I am a 39 wood elf dru and I was in wolf form. I never attacked a Coldain, never did anything. I didn't cast a spell on them by accident. It was my FIRST time to any velious area. I was also wearing a silvery mask, could that have had something to do with it?
RE: KOS to Coldain
# Jun 28 2002 at 12:43 PM Rating: Decent
It was the wolf form. They DON'T Like wolf form.
When Dezza My Druid was in her 40's I was hunting in EW neer the orc fort when one of the big wars started. Dezza was standing on the top betwen 15 Coldain dwarfs. Then about 2 min later she cast wolf form to get out of the way. she was dead before she hit the ground. was killed by the Coldain dwarfs. It's the same thing in FV.
Wolf form = Death.
die and learn - thats my moto.
Faeddar lvl 56 chanter
Dezza lvl 53 Druid.
RE: KOS to Coldain
# Jun 28 2002 at 5:38 PM Rating: Default
Thanks. I did cast snare on one of them to try to slow them down, and I might have bit them a few times. But I didn't want to kill them since that would have really screwed me over. And of course, I died. No big deal. So if I go back there without wolf form, I should be OK, right?
Iksar non-kos?
# Jun 04 2002 at 7:59 PM Rating: Good
As an iksar necro under Cazic Thule, I'm used to being KOS almost everywhere. So after reading these posts I am assuming I can waltz through Thurg and do the shawl quest.... I hope. Anyone have a similar character that did it? I don't want to walk past even one dorf in there and have him tell me "My friend doesn't like you! I don't like you either...."
RE: Iksar non-kos?
# Jun 06 2002 at 12:39 AM Rating: Excellent
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Whether you're an Iksar worshipping Cazic Thule or a Human worshipping Quellious, you'll be apprehensive to Coldain to start out with. They don't seem to care who you worship, as long as you don't side with the giants ;)
# Apr 23 2002 at 11:10 AM Rating: Good
Ok, let me tell you my story. Ashen Vendetta, on the Innoruuk Server (my old server) was doing a raid to Icewell. I was told I could loot various RVF pieces that dropped (infact I got boots, crown, legs and guantlets). Anyway, for some reason I decided to slash them to raise my kromrif faction. W O R S T M O VE ! !

If you are given free RVF armor DON'T slash them, leave them be you don't need to help, the group has it. Now I thought, being KOS to the dwarves and amiable to giants I could just go bash em..

Then my first kael raid came, went there, then Iw as KOS to GIANTS AND COLDAIN! Ouch.

Well, finally a good guild named Township Rebellion on my new server did the 10th ring war (i had killed about 400 giants prior to that) and I just hit all of em once for faction when they came in.

I turned dubious that war, lucky me. But if you plan to ruin it, even if you are a tank, I suggest you have the following:

Ring of Dain Frostreaver IV (10th ring)
Coldain Hero's Ring (9th ring)
Runed Coldain Shawl (good INT for tradeskills, just get it)
All your thurg armor

If you have all that there is NO reason to keep thurg faction because it does not offer anything to you, so you may now switch on Giant faction and do the numerous quests they offer.

Trust me on that though, even if you have to ask a high level guild to help you on the 10th and 9th ring, just do, eveuntally one will help you.

And ONLY PEOPLE 55+ NEED GIANT FACTION unless your getting MQs of the armor, etc. If your 54 and going on kael raids keep the faction with thurg and just keep rollin in the champion's armor or sage's armor or whatever.

When I got my dubious I finished ring 9 and got back to 8, so I am ready to get my 10th ring and turn my 8th into 9th. I also finished all the coldain shawls and bumped up to indiff. with all that stuff.

Just my warning to you all, but if you don't heed it expect 5 long days in GD killing FGs and Wolves and pray there is a few 10th ring wars goin on, they are an oasis of exp.

# Feb 12 2004 at 10:47 PM Rating: Decent
You will also need Thurg faction for Thrug potions.
# Mar 06 2002 at 3:28 AM Rating: Default
Same for me,
I was kindly, just went to arena on Guild raid, and now i'm DUBIOUS with coldains!!!
What does that mean???
Faction is Screwy
# Feb 11 2002 at 12:04 AM Rating: Decent
I was Kindly... Have completed some of the armor quests out of Thurg... killing KD Arena Giants and such. Somehow I am now suddenly Apprehensive!?! I have not done anything to damage that faction! I have also spent the last two night killing Wolves and Giants... still Apprehensive! Sounds kinda messed-up to me. I live in Keal, Hate, and Velk's... where did I damage my Thurg. faction ?

# Feb 07 2002 at 7:30 PM Rating: Default
can you still bank in thurg if you havnt done anything to raise or lower faction?
RE: banking
# Jan 12 2003 at 11:25 PM Rating: Decent
If I remember right I couldn't bank there either but was apprehensive at the very beginning. But I killed 10 drakkel wolves or so and was fine after that.
RE: banking
# Mar 22 2002 at 12:04 PM Rating: Default
I have so far traveled to the bank with my Erudite Necromancer and my Barbarian Shaman. Both are conned dubiously and none of the merchents will sell to them but I have always been able to use the bank. For true evil races this may not be the same. I can not tell you about that though. If you have not changed any Coldain faction you should still be able to bank. Good luck and safe travels.

Shenook of OHS
RE: banking
# Apr 05 2002 at 2:11 AM Rating: Default
My first day in Thurg, Troll SK worships Cazic Thule - that's about as evil and hated as you can get, but I was only apprehensive to the Coldain.

EVERYONE starts out that way - that's how VI designed it - unlike SoL where they only claimed that everyone would be indifferent, when, infact, us darkies are quite disliked for no good reason (yet).

They should have the different factions have thier baseline likes/dislikes set by the actions of the players themselves - you've got some druids and necros that are always slaughtering these things for easy XP, NP, they come to start hating *ALL* necros and druids. If for some reason, every SK they ever deal with just does his usual "kill 5000 enemies and then see if they like me now" routine, SKs will soon come to discover that they start thier base at, say, warmly.
Not sure what happened ...
# Jan 07 2002 at 8:30 AM Rating: Default
At the very most, two days ago my faction was apprehensive with the Coldains in EW; however, today when I approached one of their camps I accidently conned one (was trying to adjust my view) and to my surprise they now con threateningly to me. The only mischief I have been up to in EW is killing Tundra Mammoths and Wooly Rhinos. I have searched these lists of faction lowering mobs and see no mention of these animals.
The only thing that comes to mind is an expedition I made yesterday with a friend. I am not sure what his faction is like with the Coldain (do know he has spent a lot of time in Kael), but we grouped and went roaming around CC.
Is there any possiblity that this wrecked my faction with the Coldain (if indeed he is on their hate-list)?
RE: Not sure what happened ...
# Jun 11 2002 at 1:05 AM Rating: Decent
possibly your a druid....and were in wolf form?
RE: Not sure what happened ...
# Jan 29 2002 at 1:21 PM Rating: Default
From what I am told, dragging the corpse of somebody with bad coldain faction can generate aggro, so it is possible that grouping with somebody that has bad faction could lower yours.
# Sep 04 2001 at 10:39 AM Rating: Decent
I'm wondering what the qucikest way to get from app to kindly in thurgadin for the quest arrmor.
I've killed about 20 drakkel dire wolves and my faction with the coldain hasn't risen anything.

Jensen Greatwar
39 human druid of brell serilis
Faction levels ?
# Aug 15 2001 at 11:33 AM Rating: Default
What faction level does one have to be at to do the Thrugadin quests ?
And how many different levels of faction are there ?
I am at Kindly

# Jul 15 2001 at 11:59 PM Rating: Decent
I am a Tunarian Woodelf that was amiable to merchants in Thurgaden then went outside and killed TWO tracking wolves and now they won't sell to me.....I can't believe faction can go down so fast.
# Jun 24 2001 at 6:59 PM Rating: Default
Does anyone know how to raise faction with coldain, kael, and veeshan without harming each others faction?

52 wanderer of Saryrn
# Oct 18 2001 at 7:05 PM Rating: Decent
There is no way..... its possible to be able to still buy in Thurg and do coV or Zek armor quests though..... I think it might be possible to be both positive to coV and Zek by killin a ton of giants for dragon faction and then killing Dain a few times for major faction +'s to Zek. Seems like too much hassle for so little to me though.
CC Coldain
# Jun 13 2001 at 4:52 AM Rating: Good
The Coldain in Crystal Caverns are on there own faction. Crystal Caverns was the original Coldain city Froststone ( or somethin like that ). The Coldain in CC think they are the only surviving Coldain and the rest died on some journey to another place or war or somethin like that.Anyhow, you cannot raise this faction. Also you cannot lower it unless you kill a CC Coldain. I am KoS to all other Velious Dwarves but I can still bank here.That's all I have to say about that.
RE: CC Coldain
# Jul 18 2002 at 9:31 PM Rating: Default
where the hell did you get that info
RE: Info Pls :)
# May 28 2001 at 1:21 PM Rating: Default
I am a Tunarean wood elf druid and I am amiable to the gnomes, and dubious to the frost giants.
#Anonymous, Posted: Apr 19 2001 at 3:02 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Frost giants give all 3, least ones in Kael did
# Oct 03 2001 at 6:51 PM Rating: Decent
Frost Giants give you better Dragon and Dorf faction but give you a negative on the giant faction. (funny how that works)
Raise The Triad of factions
# Apr 18 2001 at 8:33 AM Rating: Default
Is there any way to raise all three of the main Velious factions? (Kromzek, Coldain and Clwas of Veeshan) If you know post and and also e-mail me at
Rallos Zek DE Warrioress faction'd...
# Feb 22 2001 at 10:06 AM Rating: Default

The gnomes in iceclad were aimable!
(maybe Rallos Zek warrior gnomes?)

the frost giants in iceclad were dubious.

the coldain in eastern wastes were apprehensive.

dire wolves and frosts in great divide were also dubious.

coldtain tracking wolf were apprehensive.

I went to thurgadin and con'd the guards which were apprehensive to me.
RE: Rallos Zek DE Warrioress faction'd...
# Jun 11 2002 at 1:12 AM Rating: Decent
both my mains...both woodelves...were amiable to the gnome pirates in iceclad to BEGIN WITH ;)...theyre lots of fun to keel. and i believe the giant/coldain faction will be the same no matter what race/class/diety you are.

take this you lilly livered land lubber!


ps-those pirates are a GREAT place for a young druid to learn to kite. no one else wants to keel em so ya wont be messing up anyone else's hunt'n and if ya miss-pull the chances of getting someone killed(other than yourself) are very slim =) besides....quad'n cougars is so passe
Faction improvements?
# Feb 20 2001 at 12:31 AM Rating: Default
Has anyone found a way to improve faction with the Crystal Caverns Coldain? None of the local creatures help it, and at dubious faction, quests are unattainable; though there are hints that there ARE quests.
coldain in Crystal caverns
# Jan 04 2001 at 1:18 PM Rating: Default

how can we raise faction with the coldain in CC
RE: coldain in Crystal caverns
# Mar 30 2001 at 4:26 PM Rating: Default
They on Dain frostweaver faction... just check out those faction tables
RE: coldain in Crystal caverns
# Jun 16 2003 at 7:51 PM Rating: Default
No they're not..they're on Citizens of Frostone...

Before just recently there was only like 1 way to get that faction up...and it was a long involved quest, which if I remember correctly, you could do just a portion of it and get the faction hit.

now you can get + Citizens of Frostone with each Rygorr orc kill =D
Sigoniax Eve
80 Paladin
Erollisi Marr

*The beginning of the end or the end of the beginning..Choose your path*
Info pls :)
# Dec 12 2000 at 12:51 AM Rating: Decent
As I dont have Velious yet I would really like some info before I set off there. Particularly are Ogres Kos to Coldain? would just be typical if they are.
RE: Info pls :)
# Dec 16 2000 at 8:04 PM Rating: Default
No one starts off kos to the Coldain. With the exception of worshippers of Rallos Zek, everyone starts off apprehensive (Zek worshippers are dubious). On the other side, everyone except worshippers of Zek (and maybe Cazic, not sure on this), are kos to the giants.
RE: Info pls :)
# Jan 09 2001 at 11:37 PM Rating: Default
I am Agnostic and started out amiable to kromriff giants, threateningly to kromzek giants and dubious to the coldain dorfs.
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