Venril Sathir

The dark elves in the Overthere outpost are loyal to Venril.
Min: -2000 Max: 2000
-750: Threatening
-500: Dubious
-100: Apprehensive
0: Indifferent
100: Amiably
500: Kindly
750: Warmly
1100: Ally

The following quests require Venril Sathir faction

Quest Name Minimum Faction Required Maximum Faction Allowed
Before Green Indifferent
Kuughrak's Task Indifferent
Lost Koada`Dal Force Indifferent
Necromancer Spells Indifferent
The New Worker Amiable
Vitratul's Scrolls Dubious

Zones in which you can raise the faction

Zones in which you can lower the faction

NPCs you can kill to raise the faction

Quests you can do to raise the faction

NPCs you kill to lower the faction

Quests you do to lower the faction

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Building faction
# Nov 15 2001 at 10:43 AM Rating: Decent
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My iksar sk is kos at the outpost, how do i turn in the war braids to get to non kos status? can i FD next to the undead guy then turn in 4 at a time? Or and I just screwed?
Faction?
# Nov 06 2001 at 7:42 PM Rating: Default
Would an iksar monk following Cazic-Thule be any form of KOS to the inkies in The Overthere?
RE: Faction?
# Nov 15 2001 at 1:32 AM Rating: Default
Yes. High Scowling... takes 204 War Braids to become dubious if you have never had a single negative VS faction hit.
Not KoS
# Oct 09 2001 at 10:26 PM Rating: Default
I'm a Human Agnostic Monk and NOT Kos. Just thought that would help some of ya out.
Faction for an Iksar
# Sep 26 2001 at 11:44 PM Rating: Default
Hail all. I was wondering what the faction is for an Iksar Necro(guess who?).. I have good reason to think that it would be indiff. or better because i/ve read that Venril Sathir IS AN IKSAR! The first one to lead the Kunzar tribe to power over Kunark. Just wondering for obvius reasons.

P.S. you can contact me ingame via tell. If the answer is bad you can expect the dragon population to go down dramatically. )

Jezikez, Necro of Cazic
Tholuxe Paells
RE: Faction for an Iksar
# Oct 16 2001 at 3:08 PM Rating: Default
Wait a second, Iksar necro that have NOT hunted in Kaesora, Howling Stones or Karnors are indifferent IN SKELLY FORM. Turn in TONS of braids and you can get maxed. Just one time in Karnors, Kaesora or Howling Stones can move you from Ally to Scowling though.
RE: Faction for an Iksar
# Oct 21 2001 at 3:13 AM Rating: Good
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I'm pretty sure that skeleton form no longer improves faction with Venril Sathir, and the outpost in the Overthere.
RE: Faction for an Iksar
# Nov 15 2001 at 1:20 AM Rating: Default
The Illusion:Skeleton from the AoN (Amulet of Necropotence) no longer improves faction with the Dragoons and skele's in The Overthere.

Confirmed.

Unconfirmed: whether or not the Illusion: Earth ELemental (dropped from the Clay Golem maze in CT) will make you dub or indiff.
RE: Faction for an Iksar
# Oct 02 2001 at 7:10 AM Rating: Excellent
It's KoS. Venril Sathir is the Undead former emperor of the Iksar.... and the current Iksar are the descendants of those that oppose him.
RE: Faction for an Iksar
# Jan 25 2005 at 10:46 PM Rating: Decent
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Just for reference of anyone who looks this isn't right, since VS was initially killed in the fight over FoB with the RoS.
Religion
# Sep 22 2001 at 6:04 AM Rating: Default
Not seen this mentioned - but I'm pretty sure this is right. Your faction depends on your religion. I know 2 people, one a human mage worshipping a good god. One a Human bard who was Agnostic. The bard managed to increase his faction to the point he could hand in the braids by killing sarnaks. The mage did the same - but NEVER got off KOS. I am an erudite mage (agnostic) I was threatening when i got there, killed a lot of sarnaks in LoIO then became dubious at the outpost. Handed in a lot of braids and eventually got amiable and the hammer.

Muahdeeb. 50 mage
RE: Religion
# Feb 01 2002 at 7:52 PM Rating: Default
if only it were that easy, I'm afraid killing sarnaks doesn't raise faction with Venril Sathir.

-Shadesong
KOS Half Elf, amiably regarded dark elf bard of
Karana, Loyal servant of Bristlebain.
elemental potions
# Sep 20 2001 at 2:28 AM Rating: Decent
Ok... camped CT for a few hours got a couple potions.... went to OT, collected some braids to turn in.... and guess what. It kinda works, but not for me. my faction is at scowls and the potions bumped me upto threatingly. So i would suggest using this tactict if you are threatingly or better. Im assuming that the elemental form will bump you up one level of faction. if your are scowls then you become threatingly with potion. Threatingly becomes Apprehinsive to dubious to amiable etc... Hope this helps anyone out there that messed up there faction. G'Luck to everyone


Tielor
Ele potions
# Sep 19 2001 at 10:48 PM Rating: Decent
If this really works... Ill be the happest Dark Elf ever!!! =)
gaining faction with VS
# Aug 15 2001 at 2:19 PM Rating: Excellent
Ok here this goes if you really are commited to gaining faction with VS try this out

1) Go to Cazic in the maze you will find a clay golem, if you are lucky, this takes a LONG LONG time once you get about 6-7 of his common drop a potion that changes you into an earth elemental go to OT if you are high enough lvl you can kill berzerkers easy collect as many as you can carry, carefull you cant run with a full load of braids before you enter the city use one of the potions.

2) Give the braids to Rot Grime while you are an elemental and compleat the quest this takes quite a while to raise your faction once you are able to get amiable by useing the potion you can get your hammer and when not in ele form you will be dubious so you dont have to worry about TPing into your death

Grimorase
48th Iksar SK
Epic
# Jul 14 2001 at 3:48 PM Rating: Default
Can anyone tell me how to get my faction up as a ikasr SK? I need the faction for my epic.

races and such
# Jul 12 2001 at 10:49 PM Rating: Good
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Dark elves, ogres, trolls, humans, erudites, and gnomes are all equally welcome at the outpost. Other races are hated even more than high elves are hated in Neriak.
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-- Sylphan Ducambrius, Master Artisan and Enchanter on Cazic-Thule
Hammer
# Jun 19 2001 at 5:50 AM Rating: Default
one thing people seem to forget about this faction is, at level 50 you can process the hammer you need amiable faction to get. Ports you directly to overthere. Makes traveling a bit easier. I made level 55 without ever touching KC or other such dungeons. Traveling is a lot easier to do when you got a hammer. So if you've got this faction, and you're not a porting class, i'd recommend trying to keep it
group quest
# Jun 08 2001 at 1:58 PM Rating: Default
If you are grouped with someone who does the war braid quest will you both get the faction adjustments?
RE: group quest
# Jun 10 2001 at 12:23 PM Rating: Default
No, you won't get the faction changes. but you will get a share of the XP
#Anonymous, Posted: Jun 06 2001 at 2:43 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) You can ruin faction in with Venril in several different zones, including one of the most popular dungeons, the oasis of your low 50's, Karnors. Also Magicians, for one, need an item out of kaesora for their epic. So don't make yourself look like an idiot by commenting on what you don't know and calling others names.
If you want to raise your faction, and are KoS
# May 17 2001 at 12:48 PM Rating: Decent
12 posts
One way I have found to raise faction, is get a necro friend and duel him, Have him cast the spell on you that turns you into a Skel, then immediatly turn the warbraids in, if you are KoS this Will let you turn braids in to raise your faction. Just dont let the spell kill you, hehe
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Pirate Jubb De'Bartolo of Karana.
Brigand
#Anonymous, Posted: May 03 2001 at 3:29 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) I have never attacked any thing that wasn't already KoS to me, what kind of idiot goes to the first zone in a new land and just starts killing every thing? thats the problem, not the number of quests you can do to raise it, but the fact that your retarded and attacking non KoS mobs. If you killed humans in WC don't you think you might lose some Freeport faction?? so you as an evil PC attack evil NPCs on the way to a Evil city? Your frigging idiots
RE: well....
# Aug 02 2001 at 6:05 PM Rating: Default
Con the spiders in Kaesora See the scowl ready to attack. then blastem and ***** your faction. I just about did.
Spells?
# Apr 16 2001 at 1:39 PM Rating: Default
The OT sucks. I could care less about banking or buying/selling there. There IS one thing i am concerned about. If i'm KOS in the overthere how do i get my 50+ vendor spells? I ruined my faction getting my shield of spectral essence. Will i just have to pay some one to go get them for me? I looked over the faction list and it doesn't mention the spell merchants being on the same faction as OT.
OT Faction
# Apr 12 2001 at 7:34 AM Rating: Default
The OverThere just SUCKS. There are no trainers, the clockwork merchants rip you off, the clockwork bankers pick items up and destroy them...

I just said forget it and got all my iksar factions up to at least indifferent. I'd much rather go there and buy/sell/bank than that stupid Outpost. Besides all the good items and exp in Kunark pretty much gives negative OT faction. I will be VERY KOS there by the time I hit 60.

Malanie D`Velve
47 Rogue
More Mobs that give good VS Faction
# Apr 05 2001 at 7:25 PM Rating: Default
We went to MM to work on Dragon faction after killing stuff in skyfire.

We killed the Advisor and he gave good Venril Sathir faction.... Only a 4 hour spawn between faction adjustments.

Wonder if they ahve added others?
Any options for half elf ranger?
# Mar 30 2001 at 12:53 PM Rating: Decent
Is there any physical possibility that a half elf ranger can do this quest? Camo? Some spell cast by a friendly helper? Hints appreciated at sheba@indigo.hetzel.org
how to sell in the overther if you cant at the docks...
# Mar 15 2001 at 12:33 AM Rating: Default
there is an iksar merchant npc up by the mudhole that will sell to you if you cant at the docks...he/she has food water bandaids..the usual...dont know what to do if your kos ...but if your just unwelcome like me(a dark elf who cant buy from dark elves :)) try the iksar out...you'll at least be able to sell until you can do the shipyard quest
RE: how to sell in the overther if you cant at the docks...
# Aug 01 2001 at 8:19 AM Rating: Decent
28 posts
Where is this mudhole?
RE: how to sell in the overther if you cant at the docks...
# Aug 29 2001 at 10:58 AM Rating: Default
It's in the northeast part of the zone; when you enter the Overthere from Warsliks Woods, turn right (north) and you'll get there.
DE Necro Dubious?
# Feb 15 2001 at 4:55 PM Rating: Default
I'm a Dark Elf NEcor. WHy am I dubious here? there are other DE's and necromancers.. yeesh and It woun't be until I get 8 trillin more levels that I can do the warbraid quest to get faction up. poopydoodles. At least I can bank.
#Anonymous, Posted: Mar 20 2001 at 2:44 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Well Young One,
RE: DE Necro Dubious?
# Jun 08 2001 at 3:11 AM Rating: Default
<<Well Young One,

You ask why you are (#1.) dubiose...........Let me see if i can put this politely.......YOu have yet to show yourself worthy of their intrest....(#2.) Youn must be (#3.) truelly young under 30 to not be able to do said quest....So might it not be better to stay closer to home? I know many places for great educational (#4.) posibilties much closer to home....If you still feel like going and banking in place you are to young for and feel like pushing the subject the only advice i can (#5.) givee (#6.) u is ....go sit at the opening of the Pass to frontier mountains.....and beg or offer to pay for the looting (#7.) right s from the sarnak (#8.) beskers that the weaker (races??) races leave laying and vanishing one the ground..........


Hertic Zgnuoy of Xev>>


LOL dude if you are going to try and embarass someone for no good reason, please make sure you dont pathetically misspell everything you write. not that the typos and spelling errors were your only fault, the whole post was poorly written... it reeked of the scribbling of the mentally inferior.
...basically you sounded like a jackass.
its clear you try to knock others down to compensate for your own glaring inadequacies. people like you disgust me.

on a different note,
anyone else but me notice the same people who author posts flaming at "low level n00bs" often are the same people whos signature ALWAYS includes their charicters name/class/race/religion/server/other useless info yet "clumsily overlooks" his/her level? hmmm i wonder why.
RE: DE Necro Dubious?
# Jun 18 2001 at 10:33 AM Rating: Default
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I agree with my friend here. If you are going to insult someone and try to make them look like the fool, try not to do it to yourself in the process. Remember, all of us were once newbies, and you my friend who thinks themself so wise to call others Young One, are not exempt from that fact.
RE: DE Necro Dubious?
# Oct 18 2001 at 10:23 PM Rating: Default
I think the word ******* can describe the persons were talking about. end of story
VS FACTION FIXES
# Dec 12 2000 at 1:33 PM Rating: Default
Ok from all the possiblities here is how you can raise VS faction.....

1. the sarnak warbrain quest- you can do it when you are dubious, which means you can do in wolf form also!

2. Kunark dragons- if you are high 30s or higher you must find a raid that is going on to slay one of these dragons and get there and just shoot of ONE cast and you will get the faction adjustment. Being that its a dragon the hit will be a pretty big Good hit. Good luck.

**please post if you find anyother ways to raise it**

Kumamarr Osoli
40th Woodland Rogue
Army of Faith - E'ci
Am i really screwed?
# Dec 05 2000 at 5:38 PM Rating: Default
I'm in deep **** right now. I am kind of newbie and
i had no idea that factions
where so important. I have a main char called Harma
on The Rathe, he is a Dark
Elf Wizard level 19. At level 17 i went to TD and
started killing orges, the
thing is that i had NO idea that orges have the
faction Venril Sathir...well
its said so after every kill but i didnt know it
would ***** me this much...now
i am KOS to Venril Sathir. The thing is that the
NPC's in Overthere in kunark
has the faction Venril Sathir.....and now i am kos
to them, i wont be abel to
go there. And as you probebly know Overthere is an
important place for dark
elves, and wizards....quest spells and stuff there.
I have asked some people in
the same area but they said that its not possible to
change a faction back,
there is no VS faction mobs. I just wanna belive
that becouse i've been playing
like a dork to get this long, and i just dont wanna give it up. Is there
anything i can do? How will i get neutral or even
better friend with my friends
in Overthere whose faction is Venril Sathir???


I would appreciate an answer!


//Sad guy in deep **** :(
RE: Am i really screwed?
# May 17 2001 at 12:33 PM Rating: Decent
You're screwed for all practical purposes. If you want an outpost, you should just head over to the goblin lair and ruins and start working on Firiona Vie faction. You might still have to steer clear of the barbarians in Firiona Vie.
RE: Am i really screwed?
# Dec 07 2000 at 3:03 PM Rating: Default
Check this out :
http://eqdb.allakhazam.com/quest.html?quest=5
RE: Am i really screwed?
# Dec 20 2000 at 12:34 PM Rating: Default
Hehe yes but he cant get to the Capt. can he? Aint the capt also on Venril Sathir?

Just wondering, since as a TSK and human rogue of Innoruk, i have not this problem ;)

RE: Am i really screwed?
# Mar 24 2001 at 2:12 AM Rating: Decent
Get invis and give the braids to the captain
It might work but I didnt test it.
RE: Am i really screwed?
# May 17 2001 at 12:30 PM Rating: Decent
That would be interesting to see. Captain Rottgrime and his whole platoon are undead and can see through invisibility. The entire rest of the outpost can see through invisibility to undead.
RE: Am i really screwed?
# Mar 26 2001 at 9:52 PM Rating: Default
Just sazve anyon else from the death, when you turn something in, you don't "loose" invis ICON, but invis goes as far as that NPC is concerned. Also, someone looking at you with see invis will se the "()" go away, but you still have the icon.

If you are KOS, as soon as you click "give" you get attacked.
RE: Am i really screwed?
# Apr 09 2001 at 11:26 AM Rating: Decent
Hey there,

If you are KoS with Captain Rottgrime there is not much you can do. If you are anything less than KoS then do the berzerker braids quest and you can raise your faction.

Hope you are not totally KoS...
amiable iksar
# Dec 02 2000 at 9:08 AM Rating: Default
hehe ima iksar and amiable i can bank and shop.want to know how?..i am a necro..muahahaha we are gods..Once you hve call of bones..you cast it and become undead..in this form you are apprehensive..but able to turn in braids..problem is you are only amiable in skell foem and you better shop fast its a dot..i was going to try to do it more to see if it eventualy trickles down into iksar self..but stupid suicidal ogres in timerous keep jumping me and making me blow my faction..but hey better then running to cabalis everytime you need food or axcess to bank..and hey the lvl 44 pet is sold there at the sk guild..big fat ogre ..real cheap : )
Only Posible suggestions
# Nov 30 2000 at 8:55 AM Rating: Default
Has anyone ever tried doing the qyest in wolf form from share wolf form druid spell
or Elemental form for the ball of golem clay? After going in thse forms you might get indifferent im too lazy to check, and then you could do the warbraid quest to raise faction.








-ChAOS
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