Ring of Scale

This is the faction of the dragons loyal to Veeshan.

Zones in which you can raise the faction

Zones in which you can lower the faction

NPCs you can kill to raise the faction

Quests you can do to raise the faction

NPCs you kill to lower the faction

Quests you do to lower the faction

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KoS to Ally in 6-7 kills
# Nov 23 2001 at 1:33 PM Rating: Good
Kill the King of Kaladim 6 or 7 times, and you will go from KoS to Ally with Ring of Scale. Plus, hes a 5 minute spawn, so it can be done quickly..
RE: KoS to Ally in 6-7 kills
# Oct 07 2004 at 9:13 PM Rating: Decent
19 posts
No longer works have killed him over 30 times still KoS in VP.
How to build up Ring of Scale faction?
# Oct 24 2001 at 8:12 PM Rating: Default
anyone know what kind of mobs we need to kill for build up Gorenaire, Skyfire and VP faction? give tells

Bertoxxulous : Birdzy.
RE: How to build up Ring of Scale faction?
# Nov 02 2002 at 5:25 PM Rating: Decent
kill things in MM. Anything will boost it. For COV kill Dires and Frost Giants.
Gelu Dragonquest(The Arisen)
42 Druid
Terris-Thule
vs Bards
# Oct 09 2001 at 9:05 AM Rating: Default
So if Ring of Scale is the "good" dragon faction (dragons are neutral, Veeshan is a neutral god), how is this possible that they are opposed to bards, and that raising bard faction will lower ring of scale faction ?

And moreover how is this possible that bards, beeing the only ones who can worship Veeshan (as far as I have heard) could kill bards to raise ring of scail faction ?

It seems very strange that a bard, beeing a Veeshan worshipper, should choose between the bard faction and the Ring Of Scail faction, or we should be very cautious killing enemies that do not lower one or the other, and never do bardic quests.

Thanks
RE: vs Bards
# Nov 14 2001 at 3:27 PM Rating: Decent
29 posts
I may be wrong about this, but I believe I have an answer to your question:

Veeshan orignally deposited her dragons on Velious (as we all know). The Velious dragons' faction are Claws of Veeshan. According to Norrath lore, Jaled Dar didn't like the way the leader of CoV (Yelinack, I believe) was running things, so he gathered up some dragons and the basically revolted, leaving Velious and setting up the Ring of Scale in Kunark. If the Ring of Scale are rebels from the Claws of Veeshan (who follow Veeshan obviously), that might explain why they're KOS to worshippers of Veeshan.

Jo'Brill Solwynd
39th Cycle HalfElven Ranger of Tunare
Morell-Thule Server
<Revered Souls>
The Truth of the COV/ROS split.
# Sep 23 2004 at 3:50 PM Rating: Decent
The truth of it you can get from VP in Kunark. Basically, all dragons worshipped Veeshan and sought new ways to worship and improve themselves in their deity's sight. Then the humans came and the dragons had split into two opinions of them. Half said to ignore them and go back to Veeshan worship while the other half realized the weakness and easily manipulated aspects of the humans and wished to use them to serve their purposes. But, since it is a punishment worse than death for a dragon to kill a dragon, much less ordering the murder of another, the group who favored human control over Veeshan worship decided to alleviate tensions in Velious and departed for Kunark, thus becoming the Ring of Scale. No Ring of Scale dragon is KOS to a Claws of Veeshan dragon, though most wish to rip each other apart, they do not, so being ally to ROS will not make you KOS to COV and vice versa.



Edited, Thu Sep 23 16:51:16 2004
MM/ROS
# Sep 06 2001 at 2:07 AM Rating: Default
Yes you can still raise Ring of Scale faction in Mistmoore.

Delyth
51 pathfinder
Ayonae Ro
Amiable to ROS
Indifferent with COV
can't be hated more by Mayong & Velious Giants <g>

I truly enjoy getting that message about your faction can't get worse...
Ring of Scale/Claws of Veeshan
# Aug 08 2001 at 9:48 AM Rating: Default
I believe the ring of scale are considered heretics to the CoV, which is the velious dragon faction. In one quest a dragon on CoV faction asks you if you have killed other dragons, and says something about good if you tell him yes and mentions the ring of scale being evil.
Faction... )
# Aug 04 2001 at 8:52 PM Rating: Default
Gorenaire regards you as an ally :) Looks good, too bad I might have to kill her to complete my epic :( Mistmoore is were i got it I am guessing, spent weeks in that place, great zone! hehe love the trains and all hehe
Snow Orc Troopers
# Jul 29 2001 at 7:10 AM Rating: Default
You DEFINITELY don't get faction from snow orc troopers. I've killed about 100 and no faction either way.
ROS
# Apr 19 2001 at 10:07 PM Rating: Decent
I can sit and chat with Gorenaire he smiles warmly, my ROS faction is that good.
Want a Screenshot with the con text?

Pinosaur the Dethcaster, ECI iksar necro 32
re :ring of scale
# Apr 12 2001 at 2:44 PM Rating: Default
was killing in mm last nite almost all kills gave good bard faction and ros faction
#Anonymous, Posted: Apr 12 2001 at 2:44 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) was killing in mm last nite almost all kills gave good bard faction and ros faction
Darkrift
# Jan 31 2001 at 1:05 PM Rating: Default
There missing the Guardian Wurms, lvl 60 mob in skyfire. Bad ring of scale faction good spells =).
Iksar and KoS
# Jan 24 2001 at 2:43 PM Rating: Decent
Are we Iksar the most KoS because of the war?
RE: Iksar and KoS
# Oct 27 2001 at 12:35 PM Rating: Default
no
Ice Giants in Everfrost
# Dec 26 2000 at 4:23 PM Rating: Default
I spent 13 hours Saturday 12/23 killing Ice Giants in Everfrost for their Essences of Winter and I did not get one faction adjustment from them for those kills. I do not know if this has been removed or is bugged.

Jarno Wiggletoes
50th Druid
Voidrunners - Tunare
what exactly gives good faction with rin
# Aug 14 2000 at 6:19 PM Rating: Decent
the new dragons in kunark are supposed to be ring of scale faction.
Yet they con dubiously to me they zont kill me on sight but i want good faction with them.
I tried ice giants, orcs in everfrost, gobs from permafrost, and yet i got no faction hit with ring of scale.
Is there anyway to get faction hits with ring of scale, even if it s by killing some bards?
Do we still get good faction hits with RoS in mistmoore???
Please i really need to improve that faction dubious means at first succesful raid ill get kos and wont be able to travel in the dreadlands or emerald jungle anymore (not convenient for teleports...) i heard people with wolf form already got wiped out as soon as they went through the tunnel in the dreadlands and if i get kos in normal form Ill have to take the boats (that s not funny!)
RE: what exactly gives good faction with rin
# Sep 23 2000 at 3:02 PM Rating: Default
I fought in Mistmoore from level 25 to 31. Everything in Mistmoore, with the exception of Synthii and maybe a couple more will raise your ring of scale faction. I don't know what Mistmoore did to **** of the dragons, but they love it when you kill his followers.
RE: what exactly gives good faction with rin
# Sep 03 2000 at 4:59 PM Rating: Default
To get faction with RoS you can hunt in Mistmoore. If you are getting a message like: "Your faction with blah blah got worse" and no positive faction hits, you have to let the Mistmoore folks kill you, then you can gain again. Stupid? Maybe. But so is faction in this game.

Elleandra - Nameless Server
RE: what exactly gives good faction with rin
# Feb 10 2001 at 1:15 PM Rating: Default
you can also kill vhalen nostrolo the single spawn bard in south karana to raise this faction
lummix
36 mage
druzzil ro
RE: what exactly gives good faction with rin
# Apr 02 2001 at 12:30 PM Rating: Default
odd...the person needing faction would be a bard doing his/her epic weopon quest...and in order to do the epic weopon quest, the bard must kill a bard to get good faction with gorenaire(ring of scale) EQ politics...can't escape them

Taylon Moonshadow
Povar Server
im killing two tone
# Aug 09 2000 at 1:52 AM Rating: Decent
I am camping two tone, starting level 20 until i hit 26 or so, so I am hoping ill be one of the nonkos people
Ring Of Scale
# Jul 31 2000 at 8:52 PM Rating: Decent
Ring of Scale is the faction that the mobs of Veeshan's peake are connected to. It is almost impossible to get enough faction with them to become non-KOS. This is to make veeshan's peake THAT much harder, so noone can scout ahead and time pulls. But I am still going to try to get non-KOS =P Maybe some bard (being the ONLY people able to follow veeshan) will be able to get non-KOS, doubtfull though.
RE: Ring Of Scale
# Dec 19 2000 at 10:31 PM Rating: Default
Aye, I'm a bard who follows Veeshan. When I con'd an Ancient ShardWurm it glared at me threateningly, I hope it was a bug, anyhow when I get to a higher level I'll start raising my faction with Claws of Veeshan and ROS.

But I'm clueless to how Verant set this up, I'm in the works of trying to get a list from Verant with my starting faction with everybody. I don't see how I could serve my God without knowing who she likes and dislikes.

I swear my deity is too deep in the shadows. I'd appreciate any insite at guruben@excite.com

Zyphe L9
The Rathe
RE: Ring Of Scale
# Feb 06 2002 at 2:01 PM Rating: Decent
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748 posts
Shardwurms are not dragons, despite their similar appearance. They are not any faction whatsoever, much less any dragon faction (such as Claws of Veeshan or Ring of Scale). They are KOS to everyone, and always will be.

Safest place to check Claws of Veeshan faction is to port into Cobalt Scar and see what the drakes and wyverns con to you (even though killing them doesn't affect CoV, they will regard you the same way CoV does.)

A true follower of Veeshan shouln't be trying to raise Ring of Scale faction... they are considered rebels against the true followers of Veeshan, by the dragons in Velious. It would be more realistic for a Veeshanite bard to work on Claws of Veeshan faction instead, in my opinion.
RE: Ring Of Scale
# Jun 28 2001 at 5:04 PM Rating: Decent
Shardwurm? In Great divide? I think they have no faction and are always kos... when you kill them there are no faction hits...
Indeed, quite odd
# Jul 16 2000 at 8:29 AM Rating: Decent
Further puzzlement, Killing certain things in Mistmoore will increase faction with the Ring of Scale, and with Bards, while Bards have opposite faction with the Ring of Scale... While possible that all of them hate each other, it seems odd to me.
RE: Indeed, quite odd
# Oct 10 2001 at 9:55 PM Rating: Default
Something similiar goes on when you kill Dark Deathsinger, you get good faction with both the Ring and Mayong, while losing it with the League of Antonican Bards, the Knights of Truth and, er... oh, who was it?? Obviously no one importaNT. :) I plan on killing Dark a lot. I want good faction with the dragons cause when I bought EQ I had no idea that soling a dragon would NOT be something I could end up doing. Now I'm living the moto, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em.
RE: Indeed, quite odd
# May 01 2001 at 3:38 PM Rating: Default
I think this falls under "the enemy of my enemy is my friend." Bards and dragons might not get along all that well, but they can put that aside for a moment to feed their mutual bloodlust for Mayong and crew.
maybe, but....
# Jul 09 2000 at 5:32 PM Rating: Decent
Ok, then why do i gain faction from them for killing bards? Why would "good" bards hate "good" dragons?

-Gikk
maybe, but....
# Dec 09 2014 at 9:51 AM Rating: Decent
44 posts
The only "good" bard is a dead bard....
Ring of Scale
# Jun 20 2000 at 7:18 PM Rating: Decent
During the GM event in AkAnon before Kunark opened, Mayong Mistmoore tortured a Young Dragon for some information. During the discourse, it was revealed that the evil dragons Nagafen and Vox had been cast out of the "Ring of Scale" - indicating, I believe, that Ring of Scale is the faction of the "good" dragons.
RE: Ring of Scale
# Feb 06 2002 at 2:08 PM Rating: Decent
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748 posts
Not really a good/evil question... Veeshan is a neutral deity, after all. It's my understanding that the Ring of Scale is a splinter group that broke off of Claws of Veeshan for political reasons, not religious ones... and although they opposed the Claws of Veeshan, they still consider themselves Veeshan followers, probably.

Vox and Nagafen were kicked out of the Ring of Scale for different reasons... namely for attempting to mate, something forbidden for dragons of different colors to do. See the whole Sleeper's Tomb fiasco to see why this is forbidden...
RE: Ring of Scale
# Oct 15 2000 at 8:30 AM Rating: Default
This faction is definately related to the new VOI expansion. There will be a city of Dragons, and this faction will be associated with them.
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