Classes: The Paladin

Paladins - Icons of Virtue. The paladin combines the strength and battle prowess of a fighter with the healing and buffing of a cleric.

What is the best strategy for developing your paladin? Can a paladin be soloed, and if so, how? How should you play your paladin within a group? What skills should you concentrate on developing? What spells are most useful, and least useful? What armor and weapons should your paladin be seeking out?

Post your strategies on how to best play and develop the Paladin and read, rate and comment on what others have to say.

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#1 May 16 2005 at 6:45 AM Rating: Default
I was in an LDoN yesterday as the only healer & noticed after 10 minutes that my mana was going down much too fast for my level of healing. Checked out my spells and whilst my Wave of Prexus is fine (heals group for 680 HP for 680 mana consumed - figures may be slightly off, but in that general ball park) my cherished Touch of Nife has gone from a very useful 1250 Hp for 455 mana to 630 HP for 455 mana.

This has made this spell totally redundant as why would you use this when you have Superior Healing 600 heal for 150 mana and Celestial Healing (HoT) 600 Hp for 155 mana.

Have I missed a new spell being introduced somewhere? I`m level 62 btw if anyone can suggest an alternative heal.
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#2 May 18 2005 at 6:05 PM Rating: Default
Sorry Gillwenda, But as per usual, SoE has smacked us pally's down again. In thier effort to balance classes, they appear to be balancing them all on the Pally's chest! While I love my Pally dearly, he has become almost usless in a group environment, and of course, it has been a long time since we could solo. All I can suggest is that if enough of us complain via /feedback, we may become a viable class again, if not I fear we are destined to become extinct.
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#3 May 20 2005 at 2:23 PM Rating: Decent
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Really?

Touch of Nife (Lucy View)

05-09 19:12 Changed Slot 1 from "Increase Hitpoints by 1250" to "Increase Hitpoints by 1210 (L61) to 1250 (L65)"
04-12 13:05 Changed Casting Time from 5.0 seconds to 3.8 seconds
04-12 13:05 Changed Mana cost from 450 to 455

You need to check that again. If anything, you got an upgrade. An Increase of mana cost of 5, reduction of 1.2 Seconds in cast time, and a sliding scale of a WHOLE wopping 40 hp (from lvl 61-65) doesnt constitute a nerf to me.

Am I the only person that LOOKS (I get dogged for posting research) /boggle
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#4 May 23 2005 at 5:24 AM Rating: Decent
Necrophobe, I`m only quoting the stats that were on the spell itself when I clicked on it in game (in the combat envronment) - the effect of the spell was visably down which is what prompted me to look in the first place. If this was a temporary glitch I`ll happily reinstate this spell to my working `Heal & Stun` spell list - but when I wrote the original post the stats on Lucy were not in action. I`ll check it out tonight when I play - I haven`t looked at this spell since this day so things might have been put right.

btw did you actually check out the spell itself in EQ or are you assuming Lucy is infallible ? I`d obviously have no complaints at all if the Lucy stats are what I get !!
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#5 May 23 2005 at 7:31 AM Rating: Decent
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Lucy's data is incorrect. The spell heals for only around 650. Touch of Piety has same cast time but heals for about 1050 and Light of Piety has a 1.0 cast time and heals for 1250.
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#6 May 23 2005 at 11:03 AM Rating: Decent
Had to create an account just to defend Gillwe.

I confirmed this the day it was implemented. I was lvl 62 at the time as well. Heals for 630, for basically the same amount of mana. Sad day to see our most usefull heal for the time go down the tubes.

/sigh
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#7 May 24 2005 at 4:53 AM Rating: Decent
Thanks for this guys - just nice to know it wasn`t just me, thought I was losing it and had misread the stats. I guess I`ll just stick with the low mana 600 heals until I get the Piety spells in a couple of levels. Lucky I was in the LDoN really as in a situation with other healers I might not have noticed it as quickly - I thought either my guildies had suddenly acquired huge amounts of HP or something was amiss with the heal - unfortunately it was the heal...
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#8 May 24 2005 at 11:40 AM Rating: Decent
I think that thread was focussing on the higher spells (piety etc) and they missed the lower one Necro. The spell was definately showing the same stats & healing for the lower amount last night.

And no apologies required Necro - I`ll admit to being largely focussed on what I see in EQ itself and don`t read around the subject thoroughly enough.

Next question then... if you say this is a bug what chance do you think we have that it wil be reinstated to the stats shown on Lucy ? (... I`ll pause here until you all stop laughing)
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#9 May 24 2005 at 10:57 AM Rating: Decent
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If this is the case, I offer my humble apologies. I have not seen this posted on the class forums (and yes I looked).

Class Forums Links on heal changes 5/11/05

Its amazing that this has not been posted there. If Lucy is showing different stats, then this is not a nerf, but a bug.
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#10 May 24 2005 at 12:13 PM Rating: Decent
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First, I would contact your class correspondant and have him post it on the SoE forums. The data from lucy comes from SoE itself. This means that there is something wrong with the in-game mechanics that is adversely affecting this one useful spell.


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#11 May 29 2005 at 11:10 AM Rating: Decent
sounds like a good plan Necro, if I knew how to contact my 'class correspondant' - could you advise me how to do this please & I'll progress it.
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#12 May 29 2005 at 10:41 PM Rating: Decent
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Paladin Class Correspondant amanensia

You will have to log on first (eqforums.sony.station.com), but that should get the attention of the devs...

/em snarls...
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#13 May 30 2005 at 5:03 PM Rating: Decent
Thnx Necro, I have now done this - and popped my SOE posting cherry !! will let you know of any repsonse.
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#14 Jun 10 2005 at 5:34 AM Rating: Decent
just to finish off this thread, I am delighted to say the spell is behaving as per the Lucy stats (but the description on the spell itself is still incorrect, so don`t be put off). It was definately healing for 1220 on a guildy last night.

Thanks to Necro for telling me how to follow this up.

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#15 Jul 07 2005 at 7:57 PM Rating: Decent
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yeah I dunno if it was a glitch for some.. but I personally never saw this healing for the reduced amount still heals for 1200 and change for me
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#16 Jul 07 2005 at 10:31 PM Rating: Decent
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The heal never did change. There was a mistake in the text during the May patch where they accidentaly changed the description to saying the amount changed. The effect, however, never changed.
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