mage and wizzy are the most annoying chars ever to have in a group all they do is make things harder barely helping i would take any other caster over these too. Plz tell me if i am wrong.

Shaman are far more annoying than either mage or wizard and I try not to go anywhere without one.

The aggro fix for DoTs helps a lot but they still produce huge amounts of aggro if they aren't careful.

Mages and Wizards are only painful if they don't know what they are doing. If that's they case then they need a little time out back at their bind point.

dont bash wiz and mage for doing what they are designed to do i love wizzy and mage if knock back is your issue deal with it everyone pushes including you

Simple Fix ask them not to use KNOCK BACK !


Dammond Gnome Wizard !

If I saw that one of my spells was hindering the group I would not use it simple as that or If I was told my spell coused the problem I would understand and not use it again. Wizards have many spells there are ways around any problem.

Yeah, I've given up chasing on my warrior alt. Is that irresponsible? I tell them not to run, I can't get agro back. I chase. I repeat my words twice in case they have battle spam and group chat in the same window.

Then I stand near the other casters, who haven't lost their heads and who aren't kiting the mob and watch the airhead die. This is the point where I get to work holding down agro and /shielding the next caster who may have agro (ie cleric/chanter) until I have agro back.


Do other tank classes have this problem? Probably not, if they use their spellbook properly. Is this really a problem? Only when grouping with the uninformed or ignorant. The former may be corrected by advising them how you need them to behave when they steal agro. The latter shoud be avoided at all cost.

Still curious which spell the Mag has to knockback?

Mage's don't get Knockback, they get rooting earth pet. I have a mage too, and that particular pet will mess up aggro for the tank over and over again. If your tank has problems holding aggro, use a different pet:-)

You get the Nuke over time kind of spells though, and those come in usefull for not getting aggro as well. Wizzy's have the same.

Their is problems at times with Wizzy's and Mage's moreso then most other class's I have see. Alot of time they try to get a good crit in or something, but end up going to bind point. Just have to know when and when not to use is all. When you know you can kill it dead is ussually a safe time, LOL.

The wizard is a General on the battlefield.

The job of a wizard entails watching the battlefield and saving anyone's rear that got in over there head by killing a mob quickly, and to speed things up by finishing off mobs when the mana is in good supply.

Sometimes you get resisted and that just happens, and you may pull aggro without doing much to the mob if you throw down too soon. The thing to look for in a groupmate is someone who doesn't overnuke.

A wizard is an insurance policy, with strong tanks, wizards sit, med and watch the battle unfold more than anything else. I never cast a spell on a mob until he is below 80% health unless there is a GOOD reason, like someone is about to die cause we had an accidential multi-pull and the cleric is low on juice, then I kill things, and quickly.

The sweet spot for wizards is having an idea of what a mob's HP's are, and slamming a spell or two into it to bring it below 20% where it turns and starts to flee while its snared. This conserves your mana and your cleric's mana, as the mob is beating on your tanks the least amount of time this way, and you won't pull aggro.

With a lot of mobs, at about 50% I can throw my best nuke on them, and then they are out of the fight or darn near it, trying to flee at 20% while the tank (and ideally a rogue as well) finish it off quick.

May not be a wizard strategy site, but for those up and coming wizzies out there getting irate over the original post, hopefully it'll provide some insight into how to best play the class.

don't knock the mage and wiz. you want to burn the mob down fast, don't you?

mage: air pet stuns like crazy. don't forget the ds too.

i have a wizzy of my own. she's still in her 30's but i went into and LDoN the other day and all i was doin was usin Force Snap. teh melee wastaking everything out my larger nukes were a waste of time and mana. i've noticed that most wizzies in the later stages are more sparing with their mana. so far i've only gotten one knock back spell, and i do agree that it's for solo work only. i do prefer my nukers to hit it around 60% or so, makes my life easier. and y only 2 melee's? i notmally have 3 or more melee's. my basic group is: Tank, Clr, Shm/Pal, Bst, Nec, and if i'm lucky with the LFG menu a nuker. can you tell i realy want the HP buff's in this group set up?

Best thing to do with your water pet is to duo with a nec or druid, its the perfect kiting pet

just comes down to how you play. If the caster pops off to soon there is no one who 's bringing the argo back. But when playing with a Wiz or Mage who knows what there doing They are great to just roll past Mobs.
Don't Hate the Game Hate the player. Mage and wiz do what they do :)

LOL...this is an age-old question! I have seen most, if not all, pets 'push' so I could really get into a debate here, but it would be useless as everyone has a take on who does what in this game. I used to think Wizzies were a pain because of their nukes and grabbing agro, thus running around causing chaos, but as someone has mentioned earlier, a GOOD Wizzy doesn't do that...period! Same for a mage (which, BTW does NOT have a knockback spell of any sort). I always welcome a mage in a group..they have far more ability than you think, from mezzing a mob (yes, they can do that with certain mobs!), to banishing one from the zone, to cothing people to safe areas so they don't have to tread through dangerous territory, not to mention supplying people with many extremely useful items...so don't bash mages! As far as Wizzies go, they, too, have their excellent qualities from succoring a group in emergencies (there doesn't seem to be the buttload of druids around anymore like back in the day..no offense to druids!) to their tremendous nukes of which few, if any, can equal or surpass. EVERYONE has their BAD points, but let's not forget what sets them apart! /rant off :-)