Pole Grip BuyersFollow

To you all Pole grip buyers lately. I want to inform you that this thing has a 33% chance to drop in ODS. Warewolf belt is 50% chance, and sword strap is 33% as well. If you check how much sword strap and warewolf belt are right now, you probably should wait if you want a pole grip. It was at 130k a week ago, and I have no idea why you guys would pay more than that.

If someone put something on the AH for more than its history, just wait, the seller will have to pay tax to put stuff up on AH, if it doesn't sell, he will lower it. Why do you want to keep upping the price and reward the sellers for upping it?

Makes absolute no sense that it is 300k now. Jeez... do they just lower how much 1 mil is on gil selling site? Damn those gil buyers.

Well, since the item is soooo overpriced why not just ....

1) Spam ODS (since KS are so easy to come by)
2) Stock up on all those Pole Grips
3) Put them on the AH at those excessive prices
4) Profit?

One of my ls mates was the first to get a pole grip to drop in an ods run right after the update he sold the very first one on the ah that night for just under a mill... I loled.

And this is exactly why ppl hate gil buyers, they have no knowledge of the game and toss gil around without thinking and make alot of stuff overpriced.

You are making mass generalization that have no backing...

Just because you are poor and can't afford one don't knock those that can or assume they are gilbuyers.

This item in question is not overpriced by any means to me, considering that myself and several of my friends bought 75 ancient beastcoins @ 15k each (average) to get our brutal earrings. That cost each of us 1,125,000 to get. That doesn't even add as much double attack as the grip you are complaining about. So I guess if I do the extrapolation there, the equivalent earring assuming it existed would cost 2,250,000 making this grip quite a bargain. Maybe I'll go ahead and buy one for my 37 DRK since it is such a good deal...






Edited, Oct 3rd 2007 4:17pm by FFXISoldur

Well, to that arguement of yours. Why can't ppl wait knowing it is overpriced? It is a few ppl who are welling to pay that high while the majority of the ppl who understand this are still waiting. A lot of the ppl in my LS have craft 103 and loaded in gil. Yet none of them who play 2hand weapon jobs has one, all waiting. I am primarily targeting those who pay a high premium just so they can own it a few days earlier. A blm in my LS even tell me that he is waiting for it to drop to 100k so he will get it for this sam. Yet he spends day and night doing KS30 service for other ppl. You don't think he knows where the price should be based on how much he has seen dropped?

I mean, yes, you did pay that much for your brutal. But it was when ALL ABCoins are that expensive. Are you going to pay more than 15k for a beastcoin now? If you want to do that just cuz this one random day that you can't find any seller, power to you. But are you overpaying? yes. The price is a bit high for the grip now is simply cuz KS30 comes in waves, if you wait a few days, another batch will come in. I mean ppl are buying it like it is a limited addition or something....

Feel free to get the grip while your drk is still 37, no one is stopping you. Just try not to pay 30% over the current price if that's not too much to ask for lol.

In the end I can pay whatever in the hell I want for something when I want it, if you can't pay that much for it or won't then that's your own problem. I'll be enjoying mine while you still whine and moan about it...

/endofstory

So now go to the AH and pay for 300k. I don't see your name on the history of the AH. Buy it or it is all talk. I will see if you are really welling to pay 300k when you can get it for 200k a few days later. I am pretty sure when you get it, you go with the history price and didn't go 30% higher when you bid, so in no way your situation is comparible to this.

Like I said, no one can predict the price, so if you paid let's say 450k about 3 weeks ago when everyone else was paying that much, then I don't see a problem. But if you paid 450k when you could have pay 300k for it 3 weeks ago, then I don't see why you would do that unless you just have that much gil to waste.

You need to accept that this is your point of view. you see it as overpaying but I may not. Lets say somehow the price goes up to 500k, and people pay it. They might not see it as overpaying the item may be worth that much to them. Sure you can criticize them for "hurting the market" but if they don't mind why should you give a crap?

I think an item is worth the price you are willing to pay for it. that is the rule of thumb I try and play by.

http://www.ffxiah.com/item.php?id=13620&sid=24&stack=0


Here is my point these have been selling for 50K for well over a year now the same crafter has jacked the price up 20K in 2 weeks.

Is this unfair, should he not do this, are the people buying them stupid.


Well if he is basically the only one to make them and this is the only way to get the item, he can charge as much as he wants and when they start to sell slower that will be the new price.

Pole strap for 300k is rather high, it's not worth that for me, that's for sure. But assuming people who can afford are gil buyers is just plain wrong. If you can't afford it, go farm some more. A heck of a lot more productive than pleading people to not buy it for x price on this forum.

I'm not really sure why you're complaining. Most people with half a brain realize they're overpaying. If they can't be troubled by looking at the AH history, then they're probably not reading forums and your message kinda gets lost. Most people who end up overpaying for an item do it for the trade off of getting said item immediately. I know I've done it on a few things. Mostly it's stuff that gets sold very rarely, and if one's up and not -too- overpriced, I'll grab it cause I know it might be several months before I see it again. If it's something that's fairly common and/or I can live without it, I simply don't pay that much and wait for the prices to go down or stabilize.

Aside from gil sellers who monopolize the AH (buying up all of a particular item and then reselling at a significantly higher jacked up amount, I think almost everyone can agree that sucks), it's all just a part of the system. If genuine crafters and people who farm BCNM/KSNM/NM drop items/etc. try to sell an item for a little more profit, I don't fault them. If I think I can get away with it without having said item return to my delivery box five times, I'll do it too. It's really hard as is to make money in this economy. It mostly evens out because everything gets cheaper, but it's by variable amounts and some things just haven't decreased to the same extent everything else has. If you look at the AH, most of the drops from ODS have become nigh worthless or extremely less worthwhile than they were even a few months ago. *shrug* I personally haven't done it since grips have been added, but if people who do the KSNM sell a relatively good item at a slightly higher price to take advantage of a supply shortage, I'm not going to fault them. Chances are you're right, and within time the price of pole grip is going to decrease dramatically. Might as well try for some profit if you can.

(P.S. Even when the money drops from that particular KSNM were significantly more profitable than they are now, I'd commonly go through several orbs and not even cover the cost of Melon Pies +1 and yag drinks. Now that Serket Ring is only 600k and has a roughly 4% drop rate, which used to be the main moneymaker for ODS, it's a good thing that a new item added with a much better drop rate is worth something, if even that it's only for the time being.)

Edited, Oct 5th 2007 1:13am by Tesar

Yea, I realize that I can't expect everyone to be the same or hold the same prospective. At least from the look of it, ppl are not buying the strap as of now. 10 on AH :P

lol.... you think 300k is high for the strap? i sold one to a drk for 5 mill after the update. Although he did have apocalypse.