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#1027 Mar 13 2018 at 7:03 AM Rating: Excellent
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Tillerson is out as Secretary of State. Dude got fired over the phone while he was in Africa. He was so qualified, too.
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#1028 Mar 13 2018 at 7:45 AM Rating: Good
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That's two in like two weeks.
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#1029 Mar 13 2018 at 8:28 AM Rating: Excellent
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HA! It wasn't over the phone. He was fired over Twitter.

Also, any list ending with Tillerson is already out of date.
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#1030 Mar 13 2018 at 9:02 AM Rating: Good
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I don't understand why an American would be anti-TPP. All the bad **** in TPP (corporations suuing countries over profits lost due to regs, etc) came from the USA and has largely been dropped since it left. Any US president could have just turned that nonsense off at the source, rather than drop out.
I'm not a huge fan of any completely open trade markets. It's where I differ from Libertarians. But yeah, that was the part I really hated. If he'd instead said, "Hey, we're axing that part and keeping the rest." I'd still have counted it as a net win over keeping it all.
#1031 Mar 13 2018 at 10:44 AM Rating: Excellent
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...and they just fired Tillerson's undersecretary for confirming that Tillerson was fired via Twitter.

Edited, Mar 13th 2018 12:15pm by Jophiel
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#1032 Mar 13 2018 at 10:47 AM Rating: Excellent
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Three! Three! Three people released from their jobs at the White House! Ah! Ah! Ah! Four! John McEntee! Ah! Ah! Ah!
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#1033 Mar 13 2018 at 11:15 AM Rating: Excellent
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Jophiel wrote:
HA! It wasn't over the phone. He was fired over Twitter.

Also, any list ending with Tillerson is already out of date.


Wasn't Spicer fired over Twitter as well? I'm sure there have been others.

Hell of a way to run a railroad.

Oh, and Trump's "personal assistant" was fired because he couldn't get security clearance because he's under investigation for serious financial crimes of some ilk. That tells me Kelly was behind it, particularly since the guy was actually escorted out of the White House instead of fired by tweet when he was off the grounds.

All that said, it wouldn't surprise me if Kelly is out soon.
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#1034 Mar 13 2018 at 11:19 AM Rating: Excellent
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Kelly will be out before Easter. You have the Jophiel Seal of Truth on that statement.
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Oh, and McEntree? The guy who's under investigation for financial crimes?

He's been hired by the Trump 2020 campaign. Seems totes legit.

Edited to add: also, he's not under investigation by the police, or even the FBI.

No, he's under investigation by the Department of Homeland Security.

So what is it? Money laundering? Improper campaign contributions from a foreign power? I really don't know what other kinds of financial crime DHS would investigate. If it were RICO it would be under the aegis of the FBI, as far as I'm aware.


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Remember when our biggest problem was Stubbs? Now look at this ******** Pompeo is the Secretary of State. Just another day in the hell state.
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Remember when our biggest problem was Stubbs? Now look at this ******** Pompeo is the Secretary of State. Just another day in the **** state.


Isn't Pompeo one of those Christians who believes it's the end times, and his duty is to help bring about the apocalypse?

So that hearing should go swimmingly.

Also, hi Annabella!
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#1039 Mar 13 2018 at 1:10 PM Rating: Excellent
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Hi Annabella, Bye Annabella.
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Isn't Pompeo one of those Christians who believes it's the end times,
Well, isn't it?

Edited, Mar 13th 2018 3:10pm by lolgaxe
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Hi Annabella, Bye Annabella.
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Isn't Pompeo one of those Christians who believes it's the end times,
Well, isn't it?
Well we did have an eclipse last year...

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#1041 Mar 13 2018 at 10:50 PM Rating: Excellent
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Looks as though Lamb (D) will win the PA-18 special election in a squeaker once the absentee ballots are counted. Even if he lost by a hundred or two, which would suck, that's not a "good" result in a district that was R+20 for Trump and R+16 for Romney. Saccone was a weak campaigner but he wasn't banned from the mall for creeping on 14 year olds or anything to handwave away a 20 point deficit.
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#1042 Mar 14 2018 at 7:19 AM Rating: Good
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Saccone was a weak campaigner but he wasn't banned from the mall for creeping on 14 year olds or anything to handwave away a 20 point deficit.
I don't know about twenty points, but recently if the last person on the seat resigns in scandal it tends to flip. Small sample size here I realize, but there was both Anthony Weiner and Eric Massa. So you could maybe make a case to handwave it because of Tim Murphy, the anti-abortionist that wanted his mistress to have an abortion.

Also aren't the Pennsylvania districts being redrawn? Hows that going to work?

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The Pennsylvania districts are being redrawn but will be much more favorable to the Democrats since its undoing substantial GOP gerrymandering. They'll vote according to the new districts this November.

The loss of NY-9 didn't happen in a vacuum. It was during the ACA backlash and was viewed as a referendum on Obama and the Democrats. Exactly the same reason why it should have Republicans worried that Trump's campaigning for Saccone and their attempts to promote the new tax law failed to gain any traction in a deep red district. NY-29 had the same political climate but is much more of a swing district with Massa losing his previous race and winning his 2008 run by two points. In contrast, Democrats failed to even field a candidate in PA-18 the last two cycles and lost the district by 28 points the last time they did run one.
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Don't lie. Stubbs is still our BIGGEST problem. Smiley: tongue
#1045 Mar 14 2018 at 9:30 AM Rating: Good
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The loss of NY-9 didn't happen in a vacuum.
I'm not saying Murphy is the sole reason, just that you could probably assign a lot of the blame on his behavior.

Speaking of, what do you think of Maine's Leslie Gibson's chances of election after calling a school shooting survivor a frothing at the mouth moonrat slash skinhead lesbian?

Edited, Mar 14th 2018 11:31am by lolgaxe
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#1046 Mar 14 2018 at 9:54 AM Rating: Excellent
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The loss of NY-9 didn't happen in a vacuum.
I'm not saying Murphy is the sole reason, just that you could probably assign a lot of the blame on his behavior.

You mean Weiner?

There's some instances of a seat flipping after a scandal. There's also plenty of instances of the seat remaining after a scandal: PA-2 stayed blue after Rep Fattah was convicted of fraud, IL-18 stayed red after Shock was forced to resign over ethics issues, NY-11 stayed red after Grimm's tax evasion conviction, FL-19 stayed red after Radel's cocaine conviction, IL-2 stayed blue after Jackson's ethics scandals and FBI investigation, etc. OR-1 stayed blue after Rep Wu resigned following reports of him making sexual advances on a teenage girl if you need a sex scandal related special election (a lot more people resign over ethics/fraud charges than sex-related ones).

I think a scandal can help make a bad situation worse or shake the needle a little but it's not the primary reason for a flip unless it was already a close swing district.
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#1048 Mar 14 2018 at 12:12 PM Rating: Excellent
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Looks as though Lamb (D) will win the PA-18 special election in a squeaker once the absentee ballots are counted. Even if he lost by a hundred or two, which would suck, that's not a "good" result in a district that was R+20 for Trump and R+16 for Romney. Saccone was a weak campaigner but he wasn't banned from the mall for creeping on 14 year olds or anything to handwave away a 20 point deficit.
I've been assured everything is fine on the GOP side, and this is nothing but another example of widespread voter fraud by the Democrats. Imagine the stories about busloads of black illegal dead felons showing up will start any time now.
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#1049 Mar 14 2018 at 12:17 PM Rating: Excellent
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GOP people planning to demand a recount in PA-18 which seems... stupid.

The district is going away this year, it doesn't affect the balance in the House and just keeps this a story. Plus, they'll look doubly stupid when they lose.
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What's the spread look like right now anyway?

Don't really get the point of requesting a recount if the margin is greater than what is needed for an automatic triggering of one. The vote totals never change more than a fraction of a percent, and the whole process just takes extra time and money.
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#1051 Mar 14 2018 at 1:18 PM Rating: Good
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Plus, they'll look doubly stupid when they lose.
Or they look super awesome heroic if they marginally win and the whole 20+ angle was always just fake news it was never that much even though it was the biggest victory ever for 45.
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