all hail HRCFollow

The wraith of Kao will return to ban you.

I have plenty of spider pics to torture him with.

Brown chicken brown cow

That's got nothing to do with culture and everything to do with how the GOP would've gone on and on about how she never attended the memorial (which means she's unAmerican and/or simply hates America) and what a weak *** excuse "being sick" was.

I'm not talking about the identity politics version of "proportional representation", I'm talking about Proportionate representation in terms of elected officials political alignments. It provides a system where you can more dynamically influence the political feedback loop. As it stands, there is very little you can do to affect your elected officials, in order to effect your preferred policy agenda due to electoral mechanics; you end up with a small to very small set of options. Correlative studies have shown that public opinion has very little bearing on what types of bills get passed, largely due to things like strategic districting, including regional elections for non-regional seats, FPTP, etc.

Bit of an excluded middle there. So there's no room between "mild" and "serious"?



Right back at you.

That's when you say "I'm working from home today," check e-mail a couple of times, and watch some PBS kids.

Hence the whole "wasn't hospitalized" bit. Again, there's an actual point where pneumonia is considered serious.

"What? I never said I get to know about every minor illness. It's just that I should get to know about every other illness -- oh, and it should be completely my call on what illnesses count or not because labels are dumb!"

Keep whining about me actually using terms and definitions and stuff when all you want to do is throw a hissy fit and those dumb ole words are getting in your way but we actually use these terms for a reason. And, sadly for you, the reason isn't political.

Wait... you think she retired as Sec. of State because of that?? Honestly??

Hooo-boy. Did that one come from your Dinesh D'souza newsletter or was it printed inside your tin foil hat? Clinton made clear before the 2012 election that she didn't plan to serve a second term but would only stay on until a successor was confirmed. She had her injury in December 2012. Holy Christ, you're a goddamned tool who'll just believe anything aren't you?

Edited, Sep 19th 2016 2:42pm by Jophiel

Well that's just demonstrably false. He refuses to believe facts.

I'm not sure how deciding to not go to the hospital (or apparently receive any treatment at all) magically makes an illness "mild". It doesn't work that way.



Like maybe when you're passing out as a result?



There were a number of factors. I didn't word that particularly well (happens when I try to be brief and conflate two ideas into one statement). The implication here is that, just as this fall wasn't really caused by pneumonia, her previous one wasn't caused by the flu either. If that is the case, then she may have been aware of her health problems well ahead of time and been planning on moving out of the position. The timing of Obama's re-election made that a more clear choice, obviously. It's like you aren't aware that speculation about her health haven't been swirling around for years now, and that this incident fits right into those speculations.



Uh huh. I'm aware of that. Again, I'm examining the possibility that her fall wasn't caused by the flu back then or pneumonia now and following the logic if that is true. The larger point is that she was unable to finish out her term as planned. Now, if you approach this from the perspective of someone who was already planning on leaving for unrelated reasons, and then just happened to suffer an illness which caused her to not be able to fill her duties for the last couple months of her term, then that's all just coincidence, right? But if you approach this from the perspective of someone who has some kind of neurological disorder, and doesn't want the public to become aware of this (thinking it can be hidden from public view better if not in so public a position as SoS), one might start the process of getting out of that spotlight as soon as possible.

It's impossible for us to know what went on behind the scenes here. But that's kinda the point. The public perception of her trustworthiness on this (and other things) is pretty darn low. This makes theories like this seem more plausible than than they would otherwise. Which is somewhat of a problem when you're running for president. Again, I'm not trying to insist I know what is true and what isn't. I'm commenting on how her actions and events surrounding her appear to many people. And the pattern certainly does look like there's more to Clinton's health problems than the occasional flu or pneumonia which magically results in the exact same symptom. Especially when said symptom isn't something normally associated with such illnesses.

No you weren't. I mean, I get that now you'll desperately try to turn "She resigned because she was hospitalized two months after she said she'd resign" into some other asinine thing but I'll just tell you right now: no on believes you when you insist that you knew that. You didn't. You were just repeating some bullshit blog or radio host or God only knows where you get your conspiracy theories from these days. But you had no idea.

Cabinet members don't have set terms. They serve at the pleasure of the president or until they decide to take a powder. But I'm sure you "knew" that as well.

Edited, Sep 19th 2016 4:47pm by Jophiel