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#52 Dec 15 2014 at 9:46 PM Rating: Good
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You would think that after reading my previous post my point would be obvious, but I guess not.
No, because you're just rambling nonsense as if you're knowledgeable on the subject. I have no idea on what you are trying to achieve by only asking me to prove what I already said.

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So there is a line, not your line, but a line nonetheless.
How can it be or not be "my line" if I never said what the line was?

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Is it fair to say it is the line created by society?

There is no unification on the definition of the line, hence the the point of this conversation. This isn't Physics, so it's purely opinionated. Therefore, what constitutes as acceptable forms of torture can and will vary.


False. Truth exists whether you believe in it or not. And amusingly enough, physics is hardly as deterministic as you seem to think ( at our current understanding of quantum physics anyway ).

What I am saying is, as long as we can agree on a definition, we may be able to agree to a line ( which apparently exists regardless of your acknowledgment of its existence ).

See? I didn't even deem it your line. It is just a line now. See how accommodating I am?
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#53 Dec 16 2014 at 2:10 AM Rating: Good
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Almalieque wrote:
Therefore, what constitutes as acceptable forms of torture can and will vary.


There is no 'acceptable' form of torture. Any more than there is an acceptable form of rape. FFs!

And stuffing hummus up someones chuff under the pretense of 'feeding' them is rape, pure and simple. Those people were raped by the CIA. That should be abhorred by everyone who hears about it.

I'm pretty horrified that anyone is trying to defend the use of torture and rape as method of state sanctioned intelligence gathering.

I thought you cnuts were s'posed to be better than those cnuts?

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#54 Dec 16 2014 at 2:57 AM Rating: Default
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False. Truth exists whether you believe in it or not. And amusingly enough, physics is hardly as deterministic as you seem to think ( at our current understanding of quantum physics anyway ).
So, you're arguing that this isn't subjective, that there is an objective line that can be proven true? If so, please link me to this study. If not, then you're agreeing with me.

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What I am saying is, as long as we can agree on a definition, we may be able to agree to a line ( which apparently exists regardless of your acknowledgment of its existence ).
Unless we both become subject matter experts on torture, it is impossible to agree to a line. Anything agreed upon would be out of complete ignorance, rendering it completely useless. At best, we can only voice our opinions on the subject.

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There is no 'acceptable' form of torture. Any more than there is an acceptable form of rape. FFs!
Rape, by definition, is a specific type of action, torture is not (i.e, it can be physical or mental).

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And stuffing hummus up someones chuff under the pretense of 'feeding' them is rape, pure and simple. Those people were raped by the CIA. That should be abhorred by everyone who hears about it.

I'm pretty horrified that anyone is trying to defend the use of torture and rape as method of state sanctioned intelligence gathering.

I thought you cnuts were s'posed to be better than those cnuts?

Hence why I said it was inhumane?

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#55 Dec 16 2014 at 3:17 AM Rating: Good
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Can't we just agree we should only use torture in situations that make the torturer feel better?
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#56 Dec 16 2014 at 3:28 AM Rating: Good
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Isn't there a fetish around torture?
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#57 Dec 16 2014 at 4:03 AM Rating: Excellent
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This discussion has become inhumane torture. Stop ******* talking to this moron.
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#58 Dec 16 2014 at 4:28 AM Rating: Good
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I would, but I'm trying to see where he's trying to take this.
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Apparently posting pics to Facebook of someone falling from the Twin Towers on 9/11 is enough justification for any kind of torture-based interrogation. Cos that **** has been all over the place the past week.
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#60 Dec 16 2014 at 7:58 AM Rating: Good
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I would, but I'm trying to see where he's trying to take this.

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#61 Dec 16 2014 at 7:59 AM Rating: Default
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Almalieque wrote:
I would, but I'm trying to see where he's trying to take this.


Friend, I am not trying to do anything. I just go with the flow. It is weird experience you distancing yourself from any kind of declaration.
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#62 Dec 16 2014 at 8:27 AM Rating: Default
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False. Truth exists whether you believe in it or not. And amusingly enough, physics is hardly as deterministic as you seem to think ( at our current understanding of quantum physics anyway ).
So, you're arguing that this isn't subjective, that there is an objective line that can be proven true? If so, please link me to this study. If not, then you're agreeing with me.

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What I am saying is, as long as we can agree on a definition, we may be able to agree to a line ( which apparently exists regardless of your acknowledgment of its existence ).
Unless we both become subject matter experts on torture, it is impossible to agree to a line. Anything agreed upon would be out of complete ignorance, rendering it completely useless. At best, we can only voice our opinions on the subject.

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There is no 'acceptable' form of torture. Any more than there is an acceptable form of rape. FFs!
Rape, by definition, is a specific type of action, torture is not (i.e, it can be physical or mental).

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And stuffing hummus up someones chuff under the pretense of 'feeding' them is rape, pure and simple. Those people were raped by the CIA. That should be abhorred by everyone who hears about it.

I'm pretty horrified that anyone is trying to defend the use of torture and rape as method of state sanctioned intelligence gathering.

I thought you cnuts were s'posed to be better than those cnuts?

Hence why I said it was inhumane?

Edited, Dec 16th 2014 11:03am by Almalieque


Really? You are going to use ' u r not an expert so everything u day is invalid'?
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#63 Dec 16 2014 at 8:37 AM Rating: Good
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Cos that **** has been all over the place the past week.
Great, this generation's Nguyen Van Lem.
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#64 Dec 16 2014 at 3:53 PM Rating: Default
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Friend, I am not trying to do anything. I just go with the flow.
Protip: Have an objective or else you're just rambling nonsense. At least you admit that you have no point.

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It is weird experience you distancing yourself from any kind of declaration.
I've been making "declarations" since my first post. Just because you want them to be more unrealistically accurate doesn't negate their existence.

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Really? You are going to use ' u r not an expert so everything u day is invalid'?
So, you're arguing that this isn't subjective, that there is an objective line that can be proven true? If so, please link me to this study. If not, then you're agreeing with me.

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#65 Dec 16 2014 at 5:44 PM Rating: Default
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Almalieque wrote:
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Friend, I am not trying to do anything. I just go with the flow.
Protip: Have an objective or else you're just rambling nonsense. At least you admit that you have no point.

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It is weird experience you distancing yourself from any kind of declaration.
I've been making "declarations" since my first post. Just because you want them to be more unrealistically accurate doesn't negate their existence.

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Really? You are going to use ' u r not an expert so everything u day is invalid'?
So, you're arguing that this isn't subjective, that there is an objective line that can be proven true? If so, please link me to this study. If not, then you're agreeing with me.



Heh, by that logic nothing exists and nothing can be proven. Do you happen to be a philosophy major?:P I also dig the either/or false choice you try to impose here. Like I said before, it is cute to watch a child take its first steps.

As for my objective.. right now I would settle for you to just settle on stating that *** feeding is beyond the line, and, therefore, torture. I am sure we can move go somewhere once you acknowledge something so basic.

Since we are on the subject, why does it bother you so much that there may be no objective other than my amusement?
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I'm going to ******* castrate you, with a curling iron.
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#67 Dec 16 2014 at 6:29 PM Rating: Default
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I'm going to ******* castrate you, with a curling iron.


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I'm going to ******* castrate you, with a curling iron.


Does that count as torture, or should it be moved to the V-day thread?
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Normally it would count as torture, but I think in this case it probably doesn't.

Sometimes I wish Zam had a shadowban. That's got to be the funniest thing about reddit ever.
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#70 Dec 16 2014 at 9:23 PM Rating: Default
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Heh, by that logic nothing exists and nothing can be proven. Do you happen to be a philosophy major?:P
Don't project your inability to read and/or understand a simple concept as a flaw in my logic.

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I also dig the either/or false choice you try to impose here. Like I said before, it is cute to watch a child take its first steps.
If it's not "either/or" then it could be either of the two, which supports my claim that you can't pin point a specific line. You can only draw a line that can't be contradicted, if it is objective. If there exist a scenario where two different lines can be drawn and both hold true, then they are subjective. If you think there is another scenario, then please provide that scenario, else answer my previous question.

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As for my objective.. right now I would settle for you to just settle on stating that *** feeding is beyond the line, and, therefore, torture. I am sure we can move go somewhere once you acknowledge something so basic.
I'm not sure if you're actually being serious or not. I assume that you're just trolling for amusement, but comments like these make think that you might actually believe this. Serious question, do you really believe in the logic you just presented? I'm trying to determine how much effort I should place in these responses.

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Since we are on the subject, why does it bother you so much that there may be no objective other than my amusement?
Read above. I'm not bothered. I'm just trying to determine how much of your ignorance is real. I can one-line all day, but I have no desire to put in any effort in a real discussion with someone using the logic above. At least make it interesting.
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#71 Dec 16 2014 at 9:36 PM Rating: Default
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Almalieque wrote:
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Heh, by that logic nothing exists and nothing can be proven. Do you happen to be a philosophy major?:P
Don't project your inability to read and/or understand a simple concept as a flaw in my logic.

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I also dig the either/or false choice you try to impose here. Like I said before, it is cute to watch a child take its first steps.
If it's not "either/or" then it could be either of the two, which supports my claim that you can't pin point a specific line. You can only draw a line that can't be contradicted, if it is objective. If there exist a scenario where two different lines can be drawn and both hold true, then they are subjective. If you think there is another scenario, then please provide that scenario, else answer my previous question.

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As for my objective.. right now I would settle for you to just settle on stating that *** feeding is beyond the line, and, therefore, torture. I am sure we can move go somewhere once you acknowledge something so basic.
I'm not sure if you're actually being serious or not. I assume that you're just trolling for amusement, but comments like these make think that you might actually believe this. Serious question, do you really believe in the logic you just presented? I'm trying to determine how much effort I should place in these responses.

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Since we are on the subject, why does it bother you so much that there may be no objective other than my amusement?
Read above. I'm not bothered. I'm just trying to determine how much of your ignorance is real. I can one-line all day, but I have no desire to put in any effort in a real discussion with someone using the logic above. At least make it interesting.


Then quit. It wasn't meant to be interesting for you.

Thus far you have failed to answer any question satisfactorily and you get bent all out of shape because it does not fit YOUR (emphasis mine ) logic.

I think I understand now. You are less verbose version of Gbaji and about as stubborn. Should be good times.
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Then quit. It wasn't meant to be interesting for you.

Thus far you have failed to answer any question satisfactorily and you get bent all out of shape because it does not fit YOUR (emphasis mine ) logic.

I think I understand now. You are less verbose version of Gbaji and about as stubborn. Should be good times.
Is the line in reference objective, subjective or something else? If it's objective, please link the source. If it's something else, please explain what that something else is.
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Should be good times.
It isn't, so **** off and ignore him.
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Normally it would count as torture, but I think in this case it probably doesn't.

Sometimes I wish Zam had a shadowban. That's got to be the funniest thing about reddit ever.


Isn't that how sub-default is supposed to work?
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