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Of course but also a deck that has a lower curve with no 3 mana spells and 33 one mana spells.

That said, it could just be that your deck isn't quite fast enough to run into problems, I'm going off the assumption that you're trying to have the game finished by turn 5 or 6 and want/need to hit your first 4 land drops to get out of the gates fast enough and start casting multiple spells a turn so you'd need 4 lands in 11 cards when you're on the play.

The properly good players tend to be the most fun people in my opinion, it's the not quite so good and who blame everyone else for their loss/flaws that are annoying.

As for netdecking, I think it's kinda stupid to look down on it. Building decks is incredibly difficult to do well and while you shouldn't just copy a decklist card for card without thinking, especially for the sideboard, netdecking is simply wanting to play with as good a deck as you can and admitting that other people are better deckbuilders than you are.


Edit: I should add, I'm not trying to critique you or say what you're doing is wrong or anything, I play games to win and win as much as possible so we probably have an entirely different outlook on the game. Pretty much the first thing going through my mind when I see a decklist is how does the deck win, what are it's strengths and weaknesses etc. Though that probably doesn't mean much to you if your goal isn't to win as much as possible with your deck.

Edited, Jun 15th 2014 10:26pm by Aethien

But you're talking about a solution to a problem that doesn't really exist. If the one mana issue was no lands for 5 turns and his deck has the same chance of that then talking about what life would be like with one land instead is pretty irrelevant.

Could be. Then again, I won and they lost so...

Which is why I appreciate even an 8th place guy with a self-built deck more than a 2nd place guy with a carbon copy deck picked off the web and hand bought. In my mind, deck construction is an integral part of the game. That's what makes drafts more amusing to me than standard since you get more of a feel for what people are capable of (i.e. the actual all around "properly good players", not the ones with a credit card and a deck list) but since standard is cheaper and my local joint doesn't always run drafts I don't draft as often as I'd like.

Oh, I'm not offended. Amused by how vehemently you'll worry about one or two cards in a deck you don't own perhaps, but not offended

You're right though, about outlooks. I want to play well but I'm happy playing well with what I have and knowing I came up with stuff myself. Whether I leave with two boosters or five isn't especially important to me. Winning with someone else's deck is (to me) like "winning" a game with a YouTube walk-through. If you liked it then that's cool but I personally can't see where you'd get much enjoyment from it beyond saying "I win!".

I don't have a single 4-drop in the deck so I'm pretty sure that's wrong

It was an arbitrary example. I have no dog here, though, enjoy casual MtG. Lots of people have fun playing poorly optimized decks. :)

And I beat most of them on Friday! Woohoo!

Hope you're having a good Father's Day.

Hey now, the first time I did it (back in 90-whatever) it was the first any in my college group had seen it so I'm claiming ownership of the concept

I obviously doubt I was the first person ever of course but the concept has a special place in my heart

3 drops are still the same though, Smash worded what I was saying better than I did. You may not notice it but it'll hurt your chances to win.

Looking at your deck it has an average converted mana cost of 1.51, the red deck posted earlier is at 1.23 average CMC and an average RUG Delver deck in Legacy (running 18 lands) sits around 0.8 average CMC. It's the difference between needing 4, 3 or 2 lands to reliably cast 2 spells a turn.

And I think you're only looking at the guys who netdeck mindlessly. Just a deck grabbed from the net without thinking about it doesn't get you far as you still need to tune it to your local metagame or making the right calls on the metagame of a tournament you're going to. There's still deckbuilding involved, it's just about the details rather than the larger plan of the deck.

Man, I really hope everyone else is skipping this thread

Nifty

Man, I really hope everyone else is skipping this thread

Yes, they will be shocked, shocked I say that this board's demographic has any overlap with trading card games. Outraged!

goodbye Loyal Pegasus

Hannah would shed a tiny tear. She loves Loyal Pegasus.

Not a patch on Perfidious Unicorn.

Spike-Spike-Spike?

Seemingly less so in 1994. Or, again, less so among the players on my campus. Without everyone and everything on the internet, ideas traveled slower. I suppose the one guy who'd buy a copy of Scrye would find out what sort of deck won a tournament three months earlier.

Yeah, obviously too early to be making decisions. Not too early to have stopped buying any new RtR block cards though. Already, 70% of my deck is going to wind up in the Commander bulk box.

Edited, Jun 15th 2014 5:06pm by Jophiel

Those plus Mesa Pegasus and Benalish Heroes would make for a pretty shit deck. Think Timber Tundra Wolves really started to make it viable.

Oh, wait... the awesome might of Samite Healers. Can't forget those.

Edited, Jun 15th 2014 5:17pm by Jophiel

White decks full of low cost small creatures were very common around my junior high, back in '97 or so.
Then they moved on to red burn decks with low cost direct damage.
The green decks with massive creatures and trample/growth type spells.
Blue decks with card control, a few of my friends made decks designed specifically to force a player to draw cards from their deck so quickly that they could force them to lose by being unable to draw a card.
Black decks with creature/graveyard control

Then their was the flavor of the month infinite combo. Put into any deck they could fit it into.
And the theme decks that seemed to be popular around Tempest.

Splinter Sliver decks, they were fun, but a deck with all five colors was just too much. (Splinters, right?Slivers, that's right... Those little creatures that gained abilities from each other, and their gold Splinter Queen)

One of my friends made a green Squirrel deck, took every squirrel producing card in the game they could find (I guess a few produced squirrel tokens) and things like Coat of Arms and, then trample/growth spells, and you were being swarmed with monstrous squirrels.

My personal favorite deck was a blue deck with Horseshoe Crab, Hermetic Study, and Sigil of Sleep. Mix in a few other cards as needed and a good amount of lands and I could have fun with it. I think it's the only deck I had when I played in High School that was consistently able to hold its ground against any usual combination of deck from my friends.

It was more fun playing with groups of friends than trying to play tournaments. We could sit around and just ***** around with different combinations, some not even designed to beat the other person, not everyone was focused on just winning.

Edited, Jun 15th 2014 6:41pm by TirithRR