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Well Israel has walked away from the table again hours after Palestinian Government unified, a precondition for talks on a two state solution from Israel. Why the flip flop? Israel asked Palestine to unite its fractured government for talks to move forward. This has happened, and now they walk away from the table.
Sounds like Israel really wants peace to me
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Sounds like Israel really wants peace to me
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Majority of population truly doesn't care, film at 11.
George Carlin wrote:
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There is no reason for Israel to hold peace talks in the present environment.
Just as Planned.
Timelordwho wrote:
There is no reason for Israel to hold peace talks in the present environment.
The environment is one that they specifically requested.
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Timelordwho wrote:
There is no reason for Israel to hold peace talks in the present environment.
I blame global warming.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Don't be silly, it's been cold for like two years now.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
Stalker rdmcandie wrote:
Well Israel has walked away from the table again hours after Palestinian Government unified, a precondition for talks on a two state solution from Israel.
Utterly false. Where the hell do you get your information? The PA unifying with Hamas (which is what triggered Israel's move away from the talks) was never a precondition for anything other than a complete deal breaker for Israel. Hamas is the Palestinian faction most steadfastly opposed to any sort of two state solution, so how the hell can anyone think that this would be a precondition for it?
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Why the flip flop?
It's not. You're either lying about it, were lied to about it, or grossly misunderstood the entire issue.
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Israel asked Palestine to unite its fractured government for talks to move forward. This has happened, and now they walk away from the table.
Um... Israel did no such thing. Certainly not with Hamas.
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Sounds like Israel really wants peace to me .
.As opposed to the guys who refuse to acknowledge Israel's right to exist. Cause those guys are totally all about peace with Israel. And forming a unity government with them indicates that you want peace too!
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
lolgaxe wrote:
Don't be silly, it's been cold for like two years now.
Trade you, two for two.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
I would've loved a proper winter a few months ago but sitting outside in the sun and enjoying enjoying a popsicle today was rather nice.
gbaji wrote:
Utterly false. Where the hell do you get your information? The PA unifying with Hamas (which is what triggered Israel's move away from the talks) was never a precondition for anything other than a complete deal breaker for Israel. Hamas is the Palestinian faction most steadfastly opposed to any sort of two state solution, so how the hell can anyone think that this would be a precondition for it?
Not false at all it was back in 2011 or early 2012 when Palestine was making preparations for statehood, Netanyahu stated he could not negotiate with Abbas on the merits of statehood when Abbas did not represent a unified Palestine, and as such Israel would never recognize a Palestine State that wasn't united.
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It's not. You're either lying about it, were lied to about it, or grossly misunderstood the entire issue.
Nope its a flip flop, Israels government told Abbas that negotiations on statehood would be off the table until Palestine was united. Now it is united and Israel has refused to discuss anything with them. Very nature of a flip flop.
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Um... Israel did no such thing. Certainly not with Hamas.
Israel has had many deals with Hamas over the years, they have to you know why? Because Hamas was the elected governing party Moreover in 2006 Hamas stated they would be willing to recognize an Israeli state based on the 1967 borders. Israel said that this was not possible, and continued to expand its settlement projects.
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As opposed to the guys who refuse to acknowledge Israel's right to exist. Cause those guys are totally all about peace with Israel. And forming a unity government with them indicates that you want peace too!
And yet Israel refuses to recognize Palestine as a state. Hell they even voted against the motion at the UN...which is crazy since the people of the region never got to vote at the UN on the organization of the state of Israel.
I don't get why you have such biased and erroneous support for Israel. Well I mean I get it, but its like you don't even read news or anything...and while I know you don't do that either, it is baffling that you can blindly support a position based on faulty facts, and historical evidence. But hey to each their own.
Edited, Apr 26th 2014 12:04pm by rdmcandie
Edited, Apr 26th 2014 12:06pm by rdmcandie
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Stalker rdmcandie wrote:
gbaji wrote:
Utterly false. Where the hell do you get your information? The PA unifying with Hamas (which is what triggered Israel's move away from the talks) was never a precondition for anything other than a complete deal breaker for Israel. Hamas is the Palestinian faction most steadfastly opposed to any sort of two state solution, so how the hell can anyone think that this would be a precondition for it?
Not false at all it was back in 2011 or early 2012 when Palestine was making preparations for statehood, Netanyahu stated he could not negotiate with Abbas on the merits of statehood when Abbas did not represent a unified Palestine, and as such Israel would never recognize a Palestine State that wasn't united.
And I'm assuming you have some sort of source for this? A legitimate news site with an actual quote of him saying this and not some pro-Palestinian source claiming it with no facts to back it up? Absent this, there's no much point in even discussing the issue, since everything you're claiming derives from this starting point.
Color me silly, but I find it hard to believe that Israel actually made the PA forming a unity government with Hamas as a prerequisite for any sort of peace process. That's like the NAACP demanding that they can only move forward with civil rights legislation if the KKK helps write it. Completely absurd.
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
Stalker rdmcandie wrote:
I don't get why you have such biased and erroneous support for Israel.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
lolgaxe wrote:
Stalker rdmcandie wrote:
I don't get why you have such biased and erroneous support for Israel.
No no I get it, but I thought maybe he could tell me his real reason for being in blind support of an equally reprehensible nation. Didn't take though.
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Stalker rdmcandie wrote:
lolgaxe wrote:
Stalker rdmcandie wrote:
I don't get why you have such biased and erroneous support for Israel.
No no I get it, but I thought maybe he could tell me his real reason for being in blind support of an equally reprehensible nation. Didn't take though.
I've never thought Netanyahu terribly interested in peace with Palestine, but I've also never heard him declare Palestinian unification as a precondition.
So what's the big deal about providing a source for your claims?
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Why bother, Al Jazeera isn't an unbiased source according to Gbaji. Although it did get mention on BBC and The Gaurdian a long time ago. I honestly can't be assed to sift through years of Palestinian and Israeli Peace Talk flip flops to dig it up. If Gbaji wants to see it he can go dig through the archives on Al Jazeera, BBC and The Gaurdian. Frankly I don't feel like holding his hand through pages of him replying with nothing but "Ya buts"
Actually now that I think about it it was around the time of the Halifax IS Forum. So that should be a good starting point.
Edited, Apr 29th 2014 10:40pm by rdmcandie
Actually now that I think about it it was around the time of the Halifax IS Forum. So that should be a good starting point.
Edited, Apr 29th 2014 10:40pm by rdmcandie
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Just as Planned.
Timelordwho wrote:
What do you mean that I am not getting? Ive never once said Palestine was is in the right. But I also don't blindly assume Israel is in the right either (hint: they are not). You can't seriously want peace when you continue to settle occupied territory, or violate Human Rights Laws. Just as you can't seriously want peace if you turn a blind eye to what amounts to acts of terrorism. Both sides are equally as guilty of halting the peace process as the other. If Israel was serious about peace then they wouldn't continue to drive out Palestinians and settle land that is not recognized as theirs by the international community.
It is ignorant to label one community as evil and the other as a savior, even more so to do so blindly. The fact is Israel is just as guilty as Palestine when it comes to disrupting the peace process, or violating human rights.
The trouble is, as this article so astutely pointed out. Israel has the US firmly on its side, while Palestine doesn't have anyone. It makes it hard to have your voice heard when the US vetos any UN Resolution against the very nation you are trying to discuss peace terms with and torpedoes any attempt you make to have the international community play an unbiased role.
But hey I guess I just don't get it. I guess Israel hasn't violated any international laws, that we in the West "pledge" to uphold
Edited, Apr 30th 2014 2:25pm by rdmcandie
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Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
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Um... RDM? All I'm asking is for some kind of source for your claim that Israel demanded that the PA and Hamas form a unified Palestinian government as a prerequisite of peace talks. That's it. I'm not arguing that Israel is 100% in the right here. I'm just saying that if we're going to even discuss the issue, maybe starting off with completely BS claims isn't terribly useful. There's plenty of blame to go around on all sides here. We don't need to invent new things to blame folks for.
King Nobby wrote:
More words please
Stalker rdmcandie wrote:
The trouble is, as this article so astutely pointed out. Israel has the US firmly on its side, while Palestine doesn't have anyone. It makes it hard to have your voice heard when the US vetos any UN Resolution against the very nation you are trying to discuss peace terms with and torpedoes any attempt you make to have the international community play an unbiased role.
I wonder why not?
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Those giant buildings and man-made islands don't create themselves. Or come cheap.
Belkira wrote:
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