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Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Senator Toomey (R-PA) wrote:
In the end it didn't pass because we're so politicized. There were some on my side who did not want to be seen helping the president do something he wanted to get done, just because the president wanted to do it
Only things popping up with my Google Fu is that Pakistan convicted the doctor who informed us about Bin Laden for conspiring against the state, and that [link]US drone strikes really tick off Pakistan[/link] despite being rather effective in killing terrorists. Am I missing anything?
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I was mainly spurred by the doctor situation but I'm willing to say F-You to Pakistan for any number of reasons 
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Senator Toomey (R-PA) wrote:
In the end it didn't pass because we're so politicized. There were some on my side who did not want to be seen helping the president do something he wanted to get done, just because the president wanted to do it
Well, it's not like they haven't been giving an abundance of reasons as of late.
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George Carlin wrote:
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So, it's ok for America to bomb Pakistani soldiers with no apology for its acitons and to run covert ops, gathering information about an ally's populace (DNA), information America could never legally gather on it's own populace, but it's not ok for that ally to take issue with these items?
Does anyone question what sort of response America would take to an ally gathering DNA on their citizens and bombing American troops with no apology?
Does anyone question what sort of response America would take to an ally gathering DNA on their citizens and bombing American troops with no apology?
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I don't know how willingly I'd use the term "ally" to describe Pakistan...
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
Uglysasquatch wrote:
So, it's ok for America to bomb Pakistani soldiers with no apology for its acitons and to run covert ops, gathering information about an ally's populace (DNA), information America could never legally gather on it's own populace, but it's not ok for that ally to take issue with these items?
Well, they could certainly take a stand by not cashing the checks.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Senator Toomey (R-PA) wrote:
In the end it didn't pass because we're so politicized. There were some on my side who did not want to be seen helping the president do something he wanted to get done, just because the president wanted to do it
Locke's Article wrote:
He was tried under the Frontier Crimes Regulations, or FCR, the set of laws that govern Pakistan's semiautonomous tribal region. Human rights organizations have criticized the FCR for not providing suspects due process of law. There is no right to legal representation, to present material evidence or cross-examine witnesses.
Sounds peachy.
Almalieque wrote:
I'm biased against statistics
Jophiel wrote:
Uglysasquatch wrote:
So, it's ok for America to bomb Pakistani soldiers with no apology for its acitons and to run covert ops, gathering information about an ally's populace (DNA), information America could never legally gather on it's own populace, but it's not ok for that ally to take issue with these items?
Well, they could certainly take a stand by not cashing the checks.
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Uglysasquatch wrote:
That was a hopeful comment and not an actual expectation yes?
More of a dismissal of Pakistan's bitching when they're getting billions in aid in exchange for their supposed assistance in the whole "Catch bin Laden and stop Al'Qaeda" thing.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Senator Toomey (R-PA) wrote:
In the end it didn't pass because we're so politicized. There were some on my side who did not want to be seen helping the president do something he wanted to get done, just because the president wanted to do it
Uglysasquatch wrote:
So, it's ok for America to bomb Pakistani soldiers with no apology for its acitons and to run covert ops, gathering information about an ally's populace (DNA), information America could never legally gather on it's own populace, but it's not ok for that ally to take issue with these items?
Does anyone question what sort of response America would take to an ally gathering DNA on their citizens and bombing American troops with no apology?
Does anyone question what sort of response America would take to an ally gathering DNA on their citizens and bombing American troops with no apology?
Theophany wrote:
YOU'RE AN ELITIST @#%^ AETHIEN, NO WONDER YOU HAVE NO FRIENDS AND PEOPLE HATE YOU.
someproteinguy wrote:
Aethien you take more terrible pictures then a Japanese tourist.
Astarin wrote:
One day, Maz, you'll learn not to click on anything Aeth links.
Horsemouth wrote:
At work I'm in charge of UID/PWD combos. When people forget their initial password, I punish them with their new PWD.
The new PWD is often something like : idbecoolerifiwasaethien
YOU'RE AN ELITIST @#%^ AETHIEN, NO WONDER YOU HAVE NO FRIENDS AND PEOPLE HATE YOU.
someproteinguy wrote:
Aethien you take more terrible pictures then a Japanese tourist.
Astarin wrote:
One day, Maz, you'll learn not to click on anything Aeth links.
Horsemouth wrote:
At work I'm in charge of UID/PWD combos. When people forget their initial password, I punish them with their new PWD.
The new PWD is often something like : idbecoolerifiwasaethien
His Excellency Aethien wrote:
This. If Pakistan killed someone who organized a lot of stuff to hurt Pakistan/Pakistani citizens in the US and the US would find out about an American citizen who helped them gather information for the assassination I doubt he'd get treated much better than this doctor.
How many billions of dollars to find this guy is Pakistan paying us in this hypothetical?
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Senator Toomey (R-PA) wrote:
In the end it didn't pass because we're so politicized. There were some on my side who did not want to be seen helping the president do something he wanted to get done, just because the president wanted to do it
I don't really keep up on America/Pakistan relations. Are you guys still paying them?
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I think the Senate just voted on cutting funding for next year.
Edited, May 23rd 2012 12:29pm by lolgaxe
Edited, May 23rd 2012 12:29pm by lolgaxe
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
Current Time Killer
We're seriously considering writing them a very sternly-worded letter.
publiusvarus wrote:
we all know liberals are well adjusted american citizens who only want what's best for society. While conservatives are evil money grubbing scum who only want to sh*t on the little man and rob the world of its resources.
lolgaxe wrote:
I think the Senate just voted on cutting funding for next year.
Edited, May 23rd 2012 12:29pm by lolgaxe
Edited, May 23rd 2012 12:29pm by lolgaxe
Edited, May 23rd 2012 1:33pm by Uglysasquatch
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I was pretty sure we had to play nice until we get all our equipment out of Afghanistan; since Pakistan's ports are our best option and what not.
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Uglysasquatch wrote:
lolgaxe wrote:
I think the Senate just voted on cutting funding for next year.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
Current Time Killer
lolgaxe wrote:
Uglysasquatch wrote:
lolgaxe wrote:
I think the Senate just voted on cutting funding for next year.
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Not like giving them more money was making them more loyal though. I guess we got more for our money than we would have out of Iran. There's that at least. 
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Uglysasquatch wrote:
lolgaxe wrote:
I think the Senate just voted on cutting funding for next year.
Actually, the funding was reduced as a result of "Oh, you mean bin Laden was there all along? Haha... who knew?", restrictions on supply movement, restrictions on intelligence gathering and other odds and ends. We weren't getting our money's worth.
someproteinguy wrote:
I was pretty sure we had to play nice until we get all our equipment out of Afghanistan; since Pakistan's ports are our best option and what not.
Pakistan has blocked land access through to Afghanistan for NATO.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Senator Toomey (R-PA) wrote:
In the end it didn't pass because we're so politicized. There were some on my side who did not want to be seen helping the president do something he wanted to get done, just because the president wanted to do it
Jophiel wrote:
someproteinguy wrote:
I was pretty sure we had to play nice until we get all our equipment out of Afghanistan; since Pakistan's ports are our best option and what not.
Pakistan has blocked land access through to Afghanistan for NATO.
I could have sworn I was reading the other day about negotiations for transit, I'm guessing that all fell through then? Or never had a chance or something?
Edit (answering my own question...):
Quote:
The two countries also failed to reach agreement at the Nato summit in Chicago over the supply routes that were closed after a US air strike in 2011 killed 24 Pakistani soldiers.
Islamabad is demanding more than $5,000 (£3,200) per lorry, up from its previous rate of $250, to let supplies flow again.
Islamabad is demanding more than $5,000 (£3,200) per lorry, up from its previous rate of $250, to let supplies flow again.
From the bottom of this.
Edited, May 23rd 2012 10:16am by someproteinguy
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Uglysasquatch wrote:
lolgaxe wrote:
I think the Senate just voted on cutting funding for next year.
Edited, May 23rd 2012 12:29pm by lolgaxe
Edited, May 23rd 2012 12:29pm by lolgaxe
Edited, May 23rd 2012 1:33pm by Uglysasquatch
caveat emptor
When I say "Red light" stop, when I say "Green light" go.
Ready?
Ready?
Elinda wrote:
Uglysasquatch wrote:
lolgaxe wrote:
I think the Senate just voted on cutting funding for next year.
Edited, May 23rd 2012 12:29pm by lolgaxe
Edited, May 23rd 2012 12:29pm by lolgaxe
Edited, May 23rd 2012 1:33pm by Uglysasquatch
caveat emptor
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The point is they shouldn't be pissed when the money starts to slow down.
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The US was never getting their monies worth. But, since 2009, we've approached it with much more of a "We paid and now we're going to act" attitude and stepped up the drone strikes and actions against the Pakistani protests taking out a considerable number of targets. And, of course, the bin Laden mission. Which is what this doctor thing is really all about -- Pakistan was globally embarrassed over the obvious failures of their intelligence, the probable fact that portions of their government were in collusion with Al'Qaeda to hide/not act on bin Laden's whereabouts and that the US took him out on Pakistani soil unilaterally.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Senator Toomey (R-PA) wrote:
In the end it didn't pass because we're so politicized. There were some on my side who did not want to be seen helping the president do something he wanted to get done, just because the president wanted to do it
Jophiel wrote:
The US was never getting their monies worth. But, since 2009, we've approached it with much more of a "We paid and now we're going to act" attitude and stepped up the drone strikes and actions against the Pakistani protests taking out a considerable number of targets. And, of course, the bin Laden mission. Which is what this doctor thing is really all about -- Pakistan was globally embarrassed over the obvious failures of their intelligence, the probable fact that portions of their government were in collusion with Al'Qaeda to hide/not act on bin Laden's whereabouts and that the US took him out on Pakistani soil unilaterally.
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I've been saying Pakistan is shit for years and years. I'm hardly surprised; I'm just taking the time to point it out once again.
If it were up to me, we'd take five years worth of "aid" to Pakistan, put it in a suitcase* with a bow and hand it to India just as a "fuck you". The amusement factor of that alone would exceed any value we get from Pakistan.
*We might need a bigger suitcase
Edited, May 23rd 2012 12:52pm by Jophiel
If it were up to me, we'd take five years worth of "aid" to Pakistan, put it in a suitcase* with a bow and hand it to India just as a "fuck you". The amusement factor of that alone would exceed any value we get from Pakistan.
*We might need a bigger suitcase
Edited, May 23rd 2012 12:52pm by Jophiel
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Senator Toomey (R-PA) wrote:
In the end it didn't pass because we're so politicized. There were some on my side who did not want to be seen helping the president do something he wanted to get done, just because the president wanted to do it
Jophiel wrote:
I've been saying Pakistan is shit for years and years. I'm hardly surprised; I'm just taking the time to point it out once again.
If it were up to me, we'd take five years worth of "aid" to Pakistan, put it in a suitcase* with a bow and hand it to India just as a "fuck you". The amusement factor of that alone would exceed any value we get from Pakistan.
*We might need a bigger suitcase
Edited, May 23rd 2012 12:52pm by Jophiel
If it were up to me, we'd take five years worth of "aid" to Pakistan, put it in a suitcase* with a bow and hand it to India just as a "fuck you". The amusement factor of that alone would exceed any value we get from Pakistan.
*We might need a bigger suitcase
Edited, May 23rd 2012 12:52pm by Jophiel
I'm thinking a few steamer trunks would work.
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Looking it up, five years worth of aid would look like this times ten..
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Senator Toomey (R-PA) wrote:
In the end it didn't pass because we're so politicized. There were some on my side who did not want to be seen helping the president do something he wanted to get done, just because the president wanted to do it
I vote we fly planes, two at a time, over the country every day. One plane drops armed explosives that detonate when opened, the other food and/or money and whatever other aid. All in similar boxes, and in random patterns. Not just for Pakistan, though.
George Carlin wrote:
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I can understand being frustrated with the lack of cooperation coming from Pakistan given their supposedly friendly stance and the fact the US pays them quite a bit of money. I fail to see how this justifies drone strikes either legally or morally. It seems like a pretty bad idea generally, really.
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Well, they could certainly take a stand by not cashing the checks.
Reparations!
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Jophiel wrote:
Looking it up, five years worth of aid would look like this times ten..
Well then it's settled. Load it onto 10 trucks and pay Pakistan $50,000 to let you drive across their country just to add in extra giggles.
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someproteinguy wrote:
Well then it's settled. Load it onto 10 trucks and pay Pakistan $50,000 to let you drive across their country just to add in extra giggles.
Win.
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Senator Toomey (R-PA) wrote:
In the end it didn't pass because we're so politicized. There were some on my side who did not want to be seen helping the president do something he wanted to get done, just because the president wanted to do it
Kavekk wrote:
I fail to see how this justifies drone strikes either legally or morally.
It's much easier to inform a Predator Drone's next of kin about his horrible, untimely demise than it is for live soldiers.
Almalieque wrote:
I'm biased against statistics
Demea wrote:
Kavekk wrote:
I fail to see how this justifies drone strikes either legally or morally.
It's much easier to inform a Predator Drone's next of kin about his horrible, untimely demise than it is for live soldiers.
sh*t, sorry, I forgot that only Americans are people.
“Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.”
I don't follow. Are you against the drones or the strikes? If a guy in a fighter jet fired off the missiles, would it make a difference?
Belkira wrote:
Wow. Regular ol' Joph fan club in here.
Senator Toomey (R-PA) wrote:
In the end it didn't pass because we're so politicized. There were some on my side who did not want to be seen helping the president do something he wanted to get done, just because the president wanted to do it
Yes, because the United States is the only nation in history to incur collateral damage in battle.
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Kavekk wrote:
sh*t, sorry, I forgot that only Americans are people.
Sorry, but the DNA tests were inconclusive.
Perhaps we didn't get a large enough sample size though; I'm sure this misunderstanding could be cleared up by just swabbing a few more individuals. If you could provide those samples that'd be great. Of course, if you're a little short handed we understand, and could recommend a very good doctor to help you out if you'd like.
Edited, May 23rd 2012 12:18pm by someproteinguy
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Jophiel wrote:
I don't follow. Are you against the drones or the strikes? If a guy in a fighter jet fired off the missiles, would it make a difference?
Nah, I wouldn't care if the US was using conventional airstrikes to catch criminals. It's the drones' souls I'm worried about.
It's hard enough for a machine to get into heaven as it is.
Quote:
Yes, because the United States is the only nation in history to incur collateral damage in battle.
You're not at war with Pakistan.
Edited, May 23rd 2012 7:24pm by Kavekk
“Socialism never took root in America because the poor see themselves not as an exploited proletariat but as temporarily embarrassed millionaires.”
Yet.
George Carlin wrote:
I think it’s the duty of the comedian to find out where the line is drawn and cross it deliberately.
Current Time Killer
Kavekk wrote:
Quote:
Yes, because the United States is the only nation in history to incur collateral damage in battle.
You're not at war with Pakistan.
We're not at war with anyone. The war on terror is over, remember?
I had a very witty signature once, but apparently it offended the sensibilities of some of the frailer constitutions that frequent this particular internet message board.
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The US has really expensive and ineffective propaganda in the region.
What if the bird will not sing?
Nobunaga answers, "Kill it!"
Hideyoshi answers, "Make it want to sing."
Ieyasu answers, "Wait."
Timelordwho answers "Just as Planned."
Nobunaga answers, "Kill it!"
Hideyoshi answers, "Make it want to sing."
Ieyasu answers, "Wait."
Timelordwho answers "Just as Planned."
Given his job, I take TLW as a credible guy who's workmate told him what his friend told him what his contact told him on this one.
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I don't think that reverance or respect for the dead needs the dead to be hidden from sight completely. It is the attitude that you bring, as a witness to a dead body, that matters, not the display and witnessing of a dead body, per se.
I don't think that reverance or respect for the dead needs the dead to be hidden from sight completely. It is the attitude that you bring, as a witness to a dead body, that matters, not the display and witnessing of a dead body, per se.
Not at all, it's just common knowledge.
What if the bird will not sing?
Nobunaga answers, "Kill it!"
Hideyoshi answers, "Make it want to sing."
Ieyasu answers, "Wait."
Timelordwho answers "Just as Planned."
Nobunaga answers, "Kill it!"
Hideyoshi answers, "Make it want to sing."
Ieyasu answers, "Wait."
Timelordwho answers "Just as Planned."
http://thehill.com/blogs/global-affairs/foreign-aid/229371-senate-cuts-aid-to-pakistan-by-33-million-in-retaliation-for-tribal-court-ruling-in-bin-laden-case
Finally, strong action in response to Pakisan's shenanigans. Then again...
Quote:
Senate appropriators unanimously voted Thursday to cut Pakistani aid by $33 million, or $1 million for every year a Pakistani doctor will spend in prison for helping the CIA find Osama bin Laden.
Finally, strong action in response to Pakisan's shenanigans. Then again...
Quote:
The cut represents about 4 percent of the $800 million set aside for Pakistan next fiscal year...
Almalieque wrote:
I'm biased against statistics
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That'll learn them.
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Face it, the USA is pouring trillions of dollars all over the middle eastern and Central Asian region in order to set up the world chess board to secure ongoing flows of crude oil out of and piped across those places.
If only the US was pouring a sizable fraction of that into getting economies of scale in renewable energy alternatives that are source-able within your own nation. For instance, large scale algae farms that can be grown in tanks on marginal land, and directly used in cars, trucks and aeroplanes as an alternative to "gas".
Edited, May 24th 2012 3:55pm by Aripyanfar
If only the US was pouring a sizable fraction of that into getting economies of scale in renewable energy alternatives that are source-able within your own nation. For instance, large scale algae farms that can be grown in tanks on marginal land, and directly used in cars, trucks and aeroplanes as an alternative to "gas".
Edited, May 24th 2012 3:55pm by Aripyanfar
<3
I don't think that reverance or respect for the dead needs the dead to be hidden from sight completely. It is the attitude that you bring, as a witness to a dead body, that matters, not the display and witnessing of a dead body, per se.
I don't think that reverance or respect for the dead needs the dead to be hidden from sight completely. It is the attitude that you bring, as a witness to a dead body, that matters, not the display and witnessing of a dead body, per se.
Aripyanfar wrote:
Face it, the USA is pouring trillions of dollars all over the middle eastern and Central Asian region in order to set up the world chess board to secure ongoing flows of crude oil out of and piped across those places.
If only the US was pouring a sizable fraction of that into getting economies of scale in renewable energy alternatives that are source-able within your own nation. For instance, large scale algae farms that can be grown in tanks on marginal land, and directly used in cars, trucks and aeroplanes as an alternative to "gas".
If only the US was pouring a sizable fraction of that into getting economies of scale in renewable energy alternatives that are source-able within your own nation. For instance, large scale algae farms that can be grown in tanks on marginal land, and directly used in cars, trucks and aeroplanes as an alternative to "gas".
Ah yes! The "If only we did <this other thing that I haven't thought through>, everything would be perfect!" argument. An oldie, but a goodie.
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