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#102 Jul 13 2011 at 4:21 PM Rating: Good
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You're trying to invent arguments you can win.
It's cute you think that's what is going on. Again, your much vaunted method of coming to positions based purely on research and facts at work.


My position is that our current economic problems were not caused by the Bush tax cuts or the costs of the two wars. That position is correct. You, on the other hand, want to argue about something you can't even define well and about which I don't really care.
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#103 Jul 13 2011 at 4:28 PM Rating: Good
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gbaji wrote:
You, on the other hand, want to argue about something you can't even define well and about which I don't really care.
Just because you refuse to admit you're wrong doesn't mean my point isn't well defined. I mean, its either that or you're just too dumb to figure it out. I'd like to think that isn't the case and its just your ego that refuses to concede the point.
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#104 Jul 13 2011 at 4:32 PM Rating: Excellent
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gbaji wrote:
Lolgaxe "agreed" that the wars and tax cuts were not the cause of our current economic problems.
And I still agree it wasn't the cause. Not my fault you think that it not being the cause means there is no fault at all.
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#105 Jul 13 2011 at 4:32 PM Rating: Good
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lolgaxe wrote:
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You, on the other hand, want to argue about something you can't even define well and about which I don't really care.
Just because you refuse to admit you're wrong doesn't mean my point isn't well defined.


Wrong about what? That the Bush tax cuts and the costs for the wars didn't cause our current economic problems? How many times do I have to repeat the same exact point before you address that point and not some other point you've imagined inside your own head?

I'm right about that, aren't I? End of discussion.
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#106 Jul 13 2011 at 4:37 PM Rating: Good
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gbaji wrote:
End of discussion.
Yes, it's the only argument you need. Like I'm going to be surprised you'd fall back on that tried and false tactic.
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#107 Jul 13 2011 at 4:37 PM Rating: Excellent
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Taking out context, you most certainly are correct.
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#108 Jul 13 2011 at 4:40 PM Rating: Decent
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lolgaxe wrote:
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End of discussion.
Yes, it's the only argument you need.


It's the only argument I'm making!. Are you retarded or something? Holy hell!


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Like I'm going to be surprised you'd fall back on that tried and false tactic.


Lol! I'm falling back on making a point, supporting the point, and being correct? WTF?
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#109 Jul 13 2011 at 4:46 PM Rating: Good
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gbaji wrote:
I'm falling back on making a point, supporting the point, and being correct?
Wrong, but don't let reality stop you now.
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#110 Jul 13 2011 at 5:33 PM Rating: Good
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lolgaxe wrote:
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I'm falling back on making a point, supporting the point, and being correct?
Wrong, but don't let reality stop you now.


Now you're just being silly!
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#111 Jul 13 2011 at 5:33 PM Rating: Good
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gbaji wrote:
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I'm falling back on making a point, supporting the point, and being correct?
Wrong, but don't let reality stop you now.
Now you're just being silly!
Good of you to take my advice.
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#112 Jul 13 2011 at 5:40 PM Rating: Excellent
I see Gbaji still doesn't understand the difference between something not being the total cause of something, and something not having any effect on something. Not surprising really.
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Technogeek wrote:
I see Gbaji still doesn't understand the difference between something not being the total cause of something, and something not having any effect on something. Not surprising really.


I do understand that difference. Do you understand that the prevailing argument from the left right now isn't that the wars and tax cuts were just a small part and "had an effect", but are arguing that they're the primary cause?

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And as before, the lion's share of the problem comes from ongoing George W. Bush-era policies -- particularly deficit-financed tax cuts, which eliminated Clinton-era surpluses and left the Treasury poised for a huge hit when the financial crisis and economic downturn further eroded federal revenues.

By the end of the decade, CBPP projects that, on the current trajectory, the Bush tax cuts, exacerbated by the economic downturn, combined with the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan will account for the significant majority of public debt as a share of GDP.


This is the sort of BS being repeated over and over by pundits and politicians on the left. It's false. You see that it's false, right?

Has defense spending gone up since 2007? Sure. Does that increase represent more than a tiny portion of the deficit increase? No. Same deal with tax cuts.



You'd have a point if all the left was saying was that those things were small parts of the problem. But they aren't, are they?
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#114 Jul 13 2011 at 8:12 PM Rating: Excellent
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So... gbaji said, "But you agreed with me on this!!" and lolgaxe said, "Uh, no I didn't."

Then gbaji showed where lolgaxe "agreed," it was pointed out to him that he was wrong, and he said, "That doesn't matter, I don't really care. This is stupid."

Smiley: lol

That's the "condensed" version for those of you not paying attention.

Ooh! Can you do *all* of gbaji's pots like that?
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#115 Jul 14 2011 at 8:22 AM Rating: Excellent
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Debalic wrote:
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So... gbaji said, "But you agreed with me on this!!" and lolgaxe said, "Uh, no I didn't."

Then gbaji showed where lolgaxe "agreed," it was pointed out to him that he was wrong, and he said, "That doesn't matter, I don't really care. This is stupid."

Smiley: lol

That's the "condensed" version for those of you not paying attention.

Ooh! Can you do *all* of gbaji's pots like that?


That would mean I'd have to actually read all of his post, and I don't have that kind of stamina. Smiley: frown
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#116 Jul 14 2011 at 8:30 AM Rating: Excellent
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Belkira the Tulip wrote:
Debalic wrote:
Belkira the Tulip wrote:
So... gbaji said, "But you agreed with me on this!!" and lolgaxe said, "Uh, no I didn't."

Then gbaji showed where lolgaxe "agreed," it was pointed out to him that he was wrong, and he said, "That doesn't matter, I don't really care. This is stupid."

Smiley: lol

That's the "condensed" version for those of you not paying attention.

Ooh! Can you do *all* of gbaji's pots like that?


That would mean I'd have to actually read all of his post, and I don't have that kind of stamina. Smiley: frown

Not really, you could just create a template and change the name of the other person in the post.
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#117 Jul 14 2011 at 9:27 AM Rating: Good
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"IT'S THE ONLY ARGUMENT I NEED SHAWN" would suffice for a good 80%+.
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#118 Jul 14 2011 at 1:19 PM Rating: Good
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lolgaxe wrote:
"IT'S THE ONLY ARGUMENT I NEED SHAWN" would suffice for a good 80%+.

This is a meme now? I should probably watch that film...
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#119 Jul 14 2011 at 2:58 PM Rating: Good
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Nilatai wrote:
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"IT'S THE ONLY ARGUMENT I NEED SHAWN" would suffice for a good 80%+.

This is a meme now? I should probably watch that film...


If it is, it's one of which gaxe is the sole purveyor here.

I'm okay with it, though I think that "SHAWN" should always be replaced with the relevant poster's name.

PS: I suspect that you don't actually need to watch that film.

Edited, Jul 14th 2011 4:59pm by Eske
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#120 Jul 14 2011 at 7:59 PM Rating: Good
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I was hoping not. It doesn't exactly look good...
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#121varusword75, Posted: Jul 18 2011 at 10:38 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Gbaji,
#122varusword75, Posted: Jul 19 2011 at 9:14 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) So how's gold doing.
#123 Jul 19 2011 at 9:36 AM Rating: Excellent
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(1) Glen Beck convinces conservatives to buy gold
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#124 Jul 19 2011 at 9:44 AM Rating: Good
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Eske Esquire wrote:
Nilatai wrote:
lolgaxe wrote:
"IT'S THE ONLY ARGUMENT I NEED SHAWN" would suffice for a good 80%+.
This is a meme now? I should probably watch that film...
If it is, it's one of which gaxe is the sole purveyor here.
Well, it has to start somewhere. And sure, switching out the name should be okay. Must be in caps, though.

Edited, Jul 19th 2011 11:44am by lolgaxe
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#125varusword75, Posted: Jul 19 2011 at 10:05 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Jophed,
#126 Jul 19 2011 at 10:28 AM Rating: Excellent
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The immediate rise in gold prices has been due to fears of a government default. Which is being brought on entirely by GOP obstructionism.

I think a SEC investigation into how much gold these obstructionist GOP members are carrying in their portfolio is in order. I smell insider trading Smiley: smile
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#127varusword75, Posted: Jul 19 2011 at 10:52 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Joph,
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You obviously don't understand what the word "immediate" means in context.

Thank God you weren't failing out as an English teacher. God knows what sort of damage you'd have done.

Edited, Jul 19th 2011 12:06pm by Jophiel
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#129varusword75, Posted: Jul 19 2011 at 12:13 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Joph,
#130 Jul 19 2011 at 7:34 PM Rating: Good
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varusword75 wrote:
Joph,

I know the words immediate and rise in gold prices shouldn't be used in the same sentence with regards to this market.



Judging from goldprice.org gold has jumped drastically in the past three years or so, from a low of about 800 in late 2008 to today's high of near 1600. That's the sharpest climb since, it looks like, about '78-'80. At which point it didn't even break 800.
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