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#1 Jan 15 2007 at 12:29 AM Rating: Excellent
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The discussion of image signatures for FFXI has come up several times in the past and last night the topic came up once more. Below you will find three versions of the banners, one for each nation with different formatting for all of them. I did these on my own so quit laughing, they're drafts and better than notin'.

[img]http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/images/races/FFXI-Banner-Windurst.jpg[/img]

[img]http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/images/races/FFXI-Banner-Sandy.jpg[/img]

[img]http://ffxi.allakhazam.com/images/races/FFXI-Banner-Bastok.jpg[/img]

Several problems came up but the biggest one was that there's a lot of information to display depending on the type of player. Some people care more about crafts than missions, some have all crafts maxed out while others don't do crafting at all. I wasn't sure if people were interested at all in having their title displayed or what would happen when there is a player with no linkshell. (though I guess that would be rare)

Windurst sample

This one has the linkshell name and server next to the name, but I don't think we can do it this way simply because people can have long names + long linkshell name + long server name and the text would go too long. Which means one of the lines has to be eliminated like how the other two are displayed.

San d'Oria sample

This one displays only the mission information. It would get messy after further expansions, however.

Bastok sample

this one displays only the crafting information. I chose crafts with long names to see how many would fit and Fishing isn't that long, so it may end up being that we can include either two crafts in general or Fishing + two others.

I need feedback on what people think should be displayed and on the images in general. I realize the background is a bit plain, but having a distracting background makes the text harder to read.

The information would be taken from your primary character Profile, so you would be able to maintain it by setting the stats there.

Edited, Jan 15th 2007 3:33am by Pikko

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Edited, Jun 6th 2007 10:53am by Nizdaar
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#2 Jan 15 2007 at 12:40 AM Rating: Decent
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I like the idea of showing Nation Rank(not really needed tho), LS NAME, Char title like Kirin Captivator, Deity Debunker ect, Job(if nation rank is not used then could have main job and the secondary main job) and 2 main crafts.

Also like the char on the right hand side.
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#3 Jan 15 2007 at 12:42 AM Rating: Excellent
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Hrm, maybe the "Windurstian Citizen" isn't needed because of the flag and color?
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#4 Jan 15 2007 at 2:32 AM Rating: Good
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Flag and color are good simply for distinguishing your country. Ultimately, though, that's kind of irrelavent since one can change allegiences just like their jobs and LS.

That said, name and server are probably the only actual text that needs to be displayed. Far as the picture goes, do you plan on yanking every face combo? If so, no point in saying "tarutaru female" and the like. Then again, that wasn't in any of your examples.

I'd actually leave out mission status since it can be fuel for bashing. Some do that based solely on job levels in sigs when it comes to "knowing stuff" or whatever. I'd say one job (no sub) and one craft listed, though. Can't say I met anybody that's gone 80/80 yet (nor does SE really encourage this behavior).

Actually, I think something fun would be doing like a transparent whitening of the server's name "representative" behind the character image. Yank an image of Odin, for example. Just a little aesthetic touch, but I also know not all servers are graphically represented well in current or prior incarnations of FF.
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#5 Jan 15 2007 at 2:52 AM Rating: Excellent
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A good point about the nation, but since you can only be a citizen of one nation at a time, it's still a good basis for the image theme.

The face is a bit of a problem as you say, but I'll have to ask because I think it's possible for there to be a blank template without the face and the face would be chosen and overlapped onto the image.

I don't think the light graphic character image would turn out well for the reasons you stated, but I do like the idea of that in general. Maybe just the text of the server behind the character text?
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#6 Jan 15 2007 at 2:57 AM Rating: Good
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Nah, the server name itself should still be listed like the character name. Trying to do some transparent backwording to result in a lot of lost text in the case of longer server names like Quetzcantspellit.
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#7 Jan 15 2007 at 3:13 AM Rating: Decent
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Could users just generate the sigs by typing words given some numbers of charactres resctriction? (just like the current text-based sig), it'll give users more flexibility on what to display on their sig
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That is a possibilty, but if we can tie it into the profile system to generate automatically I think that would be prefferable for consistancey of the look.
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#9 Jan 15 2007 at 3:34 AM Rating: Decent
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How about a little scripting for displaying them?
like
{Name}{Rank}
{Title}of{Server}
GS:{Goldsmithing}

etc etc
#10 Jan 15 2007 at 6:08 AM Rating: Decent
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I think this is a great idea!!!

What would be neat, would be for people to be able to choose what kind of sig they want, whether it's a crafting sig or a mission sig.

I like the format of the Sandy (i think im biased, being from sandy =P )

I think the simpler, the better. One of the reasons I like alla is the fact that people don't have brightly obnoxious signatures flooding the forums. (To me, it becomes an e-peen contest to see who's signature is the best)

As long as it includes vital info: Name, server, LS, Nation, Rank, Job Levels, Other mission ranks, etc then I think it would be sufficient.

Good luck! This is an awesome idea!!!
#11 Jan 15 2007 at 6:23 AM Rating: Decent
i like mine lol and its free

edit: maybe even add this to the top

Name Server Race 
San:# Bas:# Win:# RoZ:# CoP:# TAU:# AST:# 
RDM59 BLU47 DRG47 BRD43 WHM42 PUP37 MNK35 PLD34 BLM34  
THF30 COR28 SAM26 DRK26 WAR26 BST25 NIN25 RNG24 SMN20  
Fis37 Woo60 Smi29 Gol25 Clo53 Lea39 Bon57 Alc60 Coo95


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#12 Jan 15 2007 at 7:03 AM Rating: Excellent
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Pikko Pots wrote:
The discussion of image signatures for FFXI has come up several times in the past and last night the topic came up once more.


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I agree with Kao, though, tieing it to the profile system would be best. It'll keep things generally simple.

Out of all of them, I like the Bastok sample the best, really. Shows LS, top three crafts, current rank, server, and job. It's supposed to be a simple banner anyway. If someone wants a SUPERSPECTACULAROMGBANNERWITHMYWHOLEFFXICAREER, they can make one and go to KI to add to the lag. Smiley: laugh
#13 Jan 15 2007 at 7:06 AM Rating: Good
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Awesome siggie idea. If WoW can have little ditty signatures then why can't we?! Smiley: motz Hope this gets completed soon ^^

Little suggestions: You can have like.... 7 slots for information on your mini-sig thing. Your choice to choose nation rank / special title / mainjob/subjob / Linkshell / etc that sort of stuff, but you can't have it all.
#14 Jan 15 2007 at 8:18 AM Rating: Excellent
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I would like the Bastokan format if you switched the Linkshell and title around so that the Linkshell is next to the name.

Or, if you got rid of the citizen info, you could do something similar to the Windurstian format and add the title in place of the citizenship...
#15 Jan 15 2007 at 8:20 AM Rating: Good
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Little suggestions: You can have like.... 7 slots for information on your mini-sig thing. Your choice to choose nation rank / special title / mainjob/subjob / Linkshell / etc that sort of stuff, but you can't have it all.


I like that idea. I wouldn't say LS is important, but others would; ditto crafts, or several jobs. Having X slots for info sounds like a way to keep everyone happy, if it's realistic from a programing side. I also like having character model faces in the sigs.
#16 Jan 15 2007 at 9:10 AM Rating: Decent
i like it.

my suggestion would be to have different setups for what can be displayed (like someone else said, so this is more of a vote i guess)

personally, i like the flag on the left and the image on the right, but there would have to be some way to change the image for the different faces.

information as i would like to see it would be


have the rank overlay on the flag at the bottom (or possibly the top left corner)
have the server overlay at the bottom of the character image (or possibly the to right)
name(large and bold) title (smaller but still bold)
Linkshell: (linkshell name) (small not bold)
Job: (same size as linkshell but bold)
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and after that it should be much smaller and personalizable
they could either list crafting info, job info, mission info etc etc.

if this is being assigned dynamicly you could just leave it as a comment section and constrict the area they can type in, then they can do all the text editing themselves, uncluding size color, link the info to a profile etc. etc.

people doing relic weapons could list that info if they want, people that like showing what relic gear they have or god gear, or af or anything they want to put in this area could be displayed. and it would cut down on the amount of programming you would have to do to handle the different exceptions. they can change it, look at it and see if they like the size and colors.

personally i would list job info as i don't realy craft or care about displaying what missions i'm on in the different expansions. and i would like to be able to link say to my bst profile where i displayed 66bst/whm or something along those lines.

what ever you do if this is going to cause more lag on the system.... abort it, one of the main reasons i visit this site as much as i do as "most" times the pages load quickly.

Edited, Jan 15th 2007 12:04pm by Tyreck
#17 Jan 15 2007 at 9:19 AM Rating: Excellent
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I guess the problem there is character length. We'd need to take the longest of all of them and make that the max/min and set the limits there, which is hard considering titles like Paragon of Puppetmaster Excellence and such.

We'll see what the devs say. Will post about it after we talk to them.
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#18 Jan 15 2007 at 9:55 AM Rating: Decent
what if the person making it was able to specify text size?

if it was too big they could just go in and size it down
#19 Jan 15 2007 at 10:06 AM Rating: Excellent
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No, I think what this will end up being is that people can select the kind of text from their profile they want displayed, such as Mission info, craft info, etc. Letting people type in their own text leaves it open for abuse.

The rest would be default such as name, server, main job/job, and linkshell. If you weren't interested in displaying your title, what else can go in its place?
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#20 Jan 15 2007 at 10:08 AM Rating: Good
I personally like he BigBoy the best. Its comes off very clean as far as information is concerned. Those that dont partake in crafting though would proberly want to list something else. Maybe an option for AF, or skills that are capped or not.

A nice addition would be to have the sigs. be a hyperlink to thier Character.

Just a thought though ^^
#21 Jan 15 2007 at 10:16 AM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah I was thinking about that as well, good suggestion!
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#22 Jan 15 2007 at 11:27 AM Rating: Good
What about instead of having the craft listed use the picture. The would free up a lot of room. I know there might be an issue witht he size and detail but it would save space.

The basic needs to have whats been stated:
NAME
SERVER
JOB
CRAFT

There are some extremely long titles in this game. And titles change very frequently. Personally you could axe the title.

Also if you wanted to free up more text you could have the job displaied instead of just a nekkid whatever. For example. If im an elvaan RDM main then I would select that and that picture would show instead of the nekid elvaan.

Only problem I see about that is maybe its getting a bit complicated with having to select a race sex and job.
#23 Jan 15 2007 at 11:27 AM Rating: Excellent
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What! I did not know about this.

I love the idea, I think it would be good for the person to have their character's face displayed with a bit of originality though, for example specifying what head/body gear being worn or an /emote.

I'd be happy to work on this.
#24 Jan 15 2007 at 11:38 AM Rating: Decent
yeah on second thought i don't really care about the title thing.

name server LS

the ability to personalize the character image would be sweet, but i wouldn't want to go through all those combinations, and wouldn't expect anyone else to either so RSE is fine in my book.

i still like the idea of overlaying rank and server on the flag and character. that would free up some more space as well.

i also like the picture idea for the different crafts (though it wouldn't apply to mine as i would want to display different jobs in that area)
#25 Jan 15 2007 at 11:50 AM Rating: Decent
I think the whole crafting thing can go. If I want to know if someone has a high craft I can always click the link and find out.

All I ask is that it's size be limited. Pictured sigs can be extremely annoying and eat up bandwidth. Go to http://killingifrit.com and see sometime what it's like to post in a forum that is bogged down with RMT adds and people putting pictures in their sigs.
#26 Jan 15 2007 at 11:51 AM Rating: Decent
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I like the sig idea

If your picking the nation background, I dont think you really need to put in "Rank 10 Windurst" because it would be pretty easy to tell that your from Windurst.

If you had requirments of Name, LS and server, then 2 or 3 lines where you could input other info of the players choosing, that would be great.

That way someone could list their main atm/all their 75 jobs/all their crafting, while somepeople dont do crafting/care about it at all. It wouldnt want anyone to feel sad :( because their fancy sig was half blank.
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