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#1 Nov 06 2011 at 7:10 PM Rating: Good
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Something I've been considering doing for a while. Not because I'm against eating animals - they're pretty much a cornerstone of society and humans have evolved to eat meat and plants - but more for health reasons than anything.

Now, doing it just to have a healthier diet, I realize that there's a lot of meats out there that are actually good for you; mainly white meats like poultry and fish. But I think that I want to try vegetarianism, at least to try it out and see how it fits me. I can always go back to eating the healthier options, but I'm pretty sure I want to cut out red meat entirely.

Before you ask, I would likely be going ovo-lacto, meaning that eggs and dairy products would be fine with me.

How many of you guys are vegetarians/pescetarians? Any tips for beginners? If you were vegetarian in college, did you have any trouble? The school cafeteria doesn't exactly have the best vegetarian options...
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#2 Nov 06 2011 at 7:20 PM Rating: Excellent
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By refusing to eat your share of delicious cow flesh you're contributing to the Greenhouse Effect. Shame on you. Smiley: disappointed

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Plus, salads still have meat in them. See?

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Isn't Ugly a vegetarian? I thought I heard him complaining about filthy meat eaters stinking up his public restrooms with their colons full of rotting animal flesh.

I just filled my freezers with 1 and a half cows and a pig. I don't think I'll be going vegetarian any time soon.

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I know very little, but I do know that a vegetarian lifestyle takes a lot more planning. There's a reason cultures that eat a lot of rice also tend to eat a lot of beans, and that's because separately the don't contain a full protein; you have to eat them both to get that protein. Lentils are quite healthy, when cooked. When uncooked, they contain anti-nutrients.

My suggestion would be to find a respectable looking guide to cover your fundamental nutritional requirements and use that as a basis to build your options.
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I have a mostly vegetarian room mate. (Technically she is piscatarean, but only certain fish because she's picky.)

Aside from the protein issue, you also have to break yourself of the habit of making the meat the "main star" of any given dish. It's not just excluding the meat entirely, it's learning a whole new way of cooking and meal planning. Sure, there are meat substitutes out there that allow you to avoid having to make every dish without a protein centerpiece, but those can be quite expensive and only a few of them are really any good. (I like the Gardein mycoprotein stuff myself, and some of the Morningstar burgers are okay.)

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I'm going to have go ahead and be no help whatsoever on this one. I find animals to be fairly delicious.
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If you're not picky it's not that hard to be vegetarian. Meat's pretty expensive so you'll be saving money, anyway.

Getting protein as a vegetarian isn't that hard, just eat a variety of legumes and other things (soy, chickpeas, and quinoa are excellent protein sources) and you'll be fine. Most Americans overshoot the recommended daily amount of protein by an assload, anyway.

I don't know if this is just a vegan thing, but B12 supplements are important.

Also, get this. Sure, it's a vegan cookbook, but the recipes are delicious and don't rely on expensive (and nasty, IMO) processed meat substitutes

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Plus, salads still have meat in them. See?

That picture makes me perversely jealous that I've never bought a bag of spinach that contained a live frog inside.
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Plus, salads still have meat in them. See?

That picture makes me perversely jealous that I've never bought a bag of spinach that contained a live frog inside.


This was my exact reaction, and made me REALLY question myself. I'm happy that I'm not alone...

As for the topic, I'm pretty much eating vegetarian right now. To be fair, it's pretty much limited to food I prepare myself (and I don't have the money to get take-out or go to a restaurant). If I'm at my parents' or a sibling's house, I'll still eat meat if they make it.

I haven't found it that hard really. Once you start looking into recipes, there are some really awesome things you can do without meat. They are almost always faster and easier to prepare too (though I REALLY hate trimming meat, which is part of it).

Learn how to make Hummus. It's SO CHEAP when made at home, and you can tailor it to the flavors you want. Plus, it's pretty versatile--very useful for sandwiches and salad. Plus, if you add a few ingredients to it, you can lightly fry it (or bake in the oven) to make falafel.

Roasting peppers is also ridiculously easy to do for how flavorful the outcome is.

Learning how to make a good pasta sauce will be extremely useful for the rest of your life, even if you decide to pick up meat again. And a simple one is super easy to make. Can of crushed tomatoes, some sauteed onion, some garlic, oregano, basil, thyme, bay leaf, parsley, salt, pepper. Tomato paste if you want it bolder. I sometimes add a little bit of rosemary. I might add peppers to it (usually after lightly roasting so I can remove their skins). You can also toss in some mushrooms, some zucchini, etc.

Though aren't you at school now? I suppose you'll just be switching to a dining hall's vegetarian options.

One last thing--it's easier (and healthier) to slowly cut meat out of a diet (or reintroduce it into one). If you generally eat meat at dinner right now, then maybe try only eating it 3 or 4 times a week. Increase the gap between those meals as you feel comfortable (which will actually be easier, as you discover more meatless dishes you like).
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#11 Nov 07 2011 at 1:33 AM Rating: Good
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Thanks guys, awesome suggestions so far. Especially frogsalad.

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Though aren't you at school now? I suppose you'll just be switching to a dining hall's vegetarian options.


Yes, but the meal plan only goes so far. My dorm has a fully stocked kitchen for us to use, so I'm more than willing to make meals of my own.

Plus, I'm worried that if I just used the cafeteria's vegetarian options for all my meals, I wouldn't be getting the required nutrients. This mainly spring from the fact that we've had mashed potatoes and carrots with the past three meals in a row.
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#13 Nov 07 2011 at 5:14 AM Rating: Good
I was a pescatarian for close to a year, and I enjoyed it for the most part. The only reason I chose to go vegetarian was because yoga made me lose my appetite for meat. Like I flat out didn't want to eat it. The idea of eating flesh made me sick to my stomach. I'm still not sure why, but apparently it isn't THAT uncommon. Once I started slacking off with doing my yoga, my appetite for meat came back. I still don't eat much pork though.

Anyways, one of the easiest ways I found to transition to being a vegetarian is to purchase a tofu cookbook. Tofu is incredibly versatile, and if you cook it right, it can be really tasty. If you like spicy food, I can share a chipotle tofu recipe with you that's really good. Plus tofu is pretty cheap. It's a little bit cheaper than boneless skinless chicken ******* out here, about $2.50 a lb for organic depending on which brand you get. A really easy way to supplement nutrients is to buy some nutritional yeast at a whole foods store or someplace similar, and use it with your tofu. I know it sounds weird, but nutritional yeast has very little flavoring to it, so it isn't noticeable. If you need any more specific tips, let me know.

I do sympathize with you trying to go vegetarian at a college campus in Texas though. =/ Vegetarians here are so lucky. UO has a great dorm food system to begin with (2 different cafeterias plus 2 specialty restaurants, 2 cafes and a grocery store), and veggies have some pretty good options. My sister used to be a vegetarian as well, and goes to a CC about 2 hours from here. She ate a lot of scrambled eggs while she was living in the dorms.
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As a vegetarian you are now lower on the food chain. You should be fried in butter, and whipped at cars.
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idiggory, King of Bards wrote:
As for the topic, I'm pretty much eating vegetarian right now.


Vegetarians taste good?

Perhaps I should try it out. They live mostly off of greens anyway, so I suppose the meat is lean and healthy, if slightly tough.

Seriously, though, I don't mind vegetarians. The vegans, however... gotta be careful of those.
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As a vegetarian you are now lower on the food chain. You should be fried in butter, and whipped at cars.
Given the ready availability of guns down here in Jesusland, you're welcome to try
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How do you find a vegan at a dinner party?

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I took a screenshot of this and photoshopped in a red arrow, just so I could have the satisfaction of clicking it.

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Vegitarians smell different from people that eat meat. I remember working with one at a bicycle shop he walked around me sniffing and then asked me if I was a Vegetarian because I didn;t stink like everyone else. I had to say no I just was not eating much meat at the time.
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Vegitarians smell different from people that eat meat. I remember working with one at a bicycle shop he walked around me sniffing and then asked me if I was a Vegetarian because I didn;t stink like everyone else. I had to say no I just was not eating much meat at the time.


This raises more questions than it answers.
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Vegitarians smell different from people that eat meat. I remember working with one at a bicycle shop he walked around me sniffing and then asked me if I was a Vegetarian because I didn;t stink like everyone else. I had to say no I just was not eating much meat at the time.


This raises more questions than it answers.


Maybe but its something that really happened. And Yes he really did try to get me to become a Vegitarian also.
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Isn't Ugly a vegetarian?
Are you @#%^ing nuts?
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TirithRR wrote:
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Are you @#%^ing nuts?
Maybe it was Nobby?

Definitely wasn't Nobby. He liked his beef 'n' ale pie too much.
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The closest to vegetarian I can approach is Vegetable Stir Fry and the occasional salad.
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Maybe it was Nobby?

Definitely wasn't Nobby. He liked his beef 'n' ale pie too much.
Paul? I'll get it right one of these guesses!

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I was a vegetarian once for 2 bites of a salad then I went back to the Steak-bomb sub with bacon I was enjoying.
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TirithRR wrote:
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TirithRR wrote:
Isn't Ugly a vegetarian?
Are you @#%^ing nuts?
Maybe it was Nobby?

Definitely wasn't Nobby. He liked his beef 'n' ale pie too much.
Paul? I'll get it right one of these guesses!

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Yea, Paulsol was either vegetarian or almost.
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I have been taking soy hotdogs and burgers to work and they taste alright. They are even better when you don't have to use a microwave to eat them. Best of luck to you.
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Jeez, how did I miss this. Gratz Fish. I too am an ovo/lacto vegetarian. I will advise you that Amy's brand frozen foods are quite yummy if you can find them. Also Morningstar Farms has great veggie-burgers. If you like tacos or chili, you can get their "crumbles" to use in place of ground beef. I'm eating some great meatless chili as I write this.

Try eating a salad with every meal, and you will thus eat less of the fattier stuffs (just don't douse it too much with dressing.)

Also avoid the trap I seem to have fallen into at times. Junk food might not have meat in it, but being a junkatarian is just as bad as too much meat.

I was not a vegetarian in college, but see the aforementioned frozen meals if your college cafeteria has a microwave.

Here is some info about getting proper nutrition in a vegetarian diet:

http://vegetarian.about.com/od/healthnutrition/f/Vegnutrition.htm

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/vegetarian-diet/HQ01596

I have been vegetarian for some 6 or 7 years now. Any questions, I will be glad to help.
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Decided to eat halal mostly because it's the only way I can get high quality meat for less than supermarket prices around here. Too lazy to go to the shop, I don't like dairy. I end up eating vegan 4 days a week, meat twice a month and random vegetarian food the rest of the time.

I was pescetarian when I lived in the US. They fed me so much shrimp, I still haven't fully overcome my aversion of that stuff. At one point they forced me to eat bacon because not doing so would've offended them. Right.
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At one point they forced me to eat bacon because not doing so would've offended them. Right.
I don't get this. It's not ok for you to offend them, but it's ok for them to offend you and force you to eat something you didn't want to?
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At one point they forced me to eat bacon because not doing so would've offended them. Right.
I don't get this. It's not ok for you to offend them, but it's ok for them to offend you and force you to eat something you didn't want to?


If you show weakness in front of carnivores, they sometimes eat you. No one ever got et by a brontosaurus. (yeah, yeah, I know, Apatasaurus can kiss my ***)
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I'm mostly vegetarian right now. I eat chicken about twice a week.

I'm trying to trim down to ~180 lb, I'm currently at 210 lb. Pretty sure I can sustain myself on this diet, now I just need to start working out, lol.
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I'm mostly vegetarian right now. I eat chicken about twice a week.

I'm trying to trim down to ~180 lb, I'm currently at 210 lb. Pretty sure I can sustain myself on this diet, now I just need to start working out, lol.
Smiley: um You know that if you start working out you're going to have to increase your protein intake somehow, right?
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I'm mostly vegetarian right now. I eat chicken about twice a week.

I'm trying to trim down to ~180 lb, I'm currently at 210 lb. Pretty sure I can sustain myself on this diet, now I just need to start working out, lol.
Smiley: um You know that if you start working out you're going to have to increase your protein intake somehow, right?
To give him the benefit of the doubt, he could be eating quinoa, or otherwise taking the time and effort to make sure his food intake works out to a high enough volume of complete proteins through eating complimentary foods.
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I'm mostly vegetarian right now. I eat chicken about twice a week.

I'm trying to trim down to ~180 lb, I'm currently at 210 lb. Pretty sure I can sustain myself on this diet, now I just need to start working out, lol.
Smiley: um You know that if you start working out you're going to have to increase your protein intake somehow, right?
To give him the benefit of the doubt, he could be eating quinoa, or otherwise taking the time and effort to make sure his food intake works out to a high enough volume of complete proteins through eating complimentary foods.
Agreed, but I'm going out on a limb and assuming he's not doing that right now and therefore, can't maintain himself on his current diet.
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Kirby the Eccentric wrote:
I'm mostly vegetarian right now. I eat chicken about twice a week.

I'm trying to trim down to ~180 lb, I'm currently at 210 lb. Pretty sure I can sustain myself on this diet, now I just need to start working out, lol.
Smiley: um You know that if you start working out you're going to have to increase your protein intake somehow, right?
Yeah, I know.
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Uglysasquatch wrote:
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Kirby the Eccentric wrote:
I'm mostly vegetarian right now. I eat chicken about twice a week.

I'm trying to trim down to ~180 lb, I'm currently at 210 lb. Pretty sure I can sustain myself on this diet, now I just need to start working out, lol.
Smiley: um You know that if you start working out you're going to have to increase your protein intake somehow, right?
To give him the benefit of the doubt, he could be eating quinoa, or otherwise taking the time and effort to make sure his food intake works out to a high enough volume of complete proteins through eating complimentary foods.
Agreed, but I'm going out on a limb and assuming he's not doing that right now and therefore, can't maintain himself on his current diet.

He's probably better off than I am, that's for sure. My protein intake is certainly too low. Though I am sure to at least be getting complete proteins.
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Uglysasquatch wrote:
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I'm mostly vegetarian right now. I eat chicken about twice a week.

I'm trying to trim down to ~180 lb, I'm currently at 210 lb. Pretty sure I can sustain myself on this diet, now I just need to start working out, lol.
Smiley: um You know that if you start working out you're going to have to increase your protein intake somehow, right?
To give him the benefit of the doubt, he could be eating quinoa, or otherwise taking the time and effort to make sure his food intake works out to a high enough volume of complete proteins through eating complimentary foods.
Agreed, but I'm going out on a limb and assuming he's not doing that right now and therefore, can't maintain himself on his current diet.
Yeah, probably not. Just thought I'd mention it in case he actually was, though.

Well, that and the boredom.
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#47 Nov 12 2011 at 7:25 AM Rating: Excellent
Dread Lörd Kaolian wrote:
I try to meat expectations...
I have a beef with that proclamation. I'm not too chicken to call you out, Kao. Quit being a silly goose.
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I know what a glory hole is, but I wasn't sure what the business part was in reference to.

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#48 Nov 12 2011 at 7:31 AM Rating: Good
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Lubriderm.

YOU. Smiley: motz
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#49 Nov 12 2011 at 7:49 AM Rating: Excellent
Oh, quit your carping.
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Oh, quit your carping.

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Kalivha wrote:
At one point they forced me to eat bacon because not doing so would've offended them. Right.
I don't get this. It's not ok for you to offend them, but it's ok for them to offend you and force you to eat something you didn't want to?



Oh, I wasn't offended, just slightly grossed out. I wasn't eating meat because the only kind of meat I really liked wasn't available there.

I essentially paid a lot of money for them to show me their culture and bacon is American culture, isn't it?
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