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Don't stop, I'm almost finished.



I just grossed myself out.

Dumbass.

A. Doctors aren't biologists. Doctors are looking to maximize one specific end--they are NOT considering that end in context of nature at large, nor do they particularly care if the "goodness" of that end is subjective or objective. Furthermore, "health" itself is a HIGHLY subjective term, as all bodies are different, and how healthy a body is depends entirely on the ends you are seeking. Very simple example? In the context of most environments, sickle cell anemia is considered a terrible genetic disorder. In the context of African areas where malaria is widespread, it's considered a genetic boon, as the safeguard against disease is vastly superior to the "defects."

B. My claim is true for the same reason that it is fallacious to claim that evolution creates "better" organisms. It largely creates organisms more symbiotic with their current ecosystems (in a sense that is highly subjective to what those organisms value for survival). That is all. Evolution might create, in ecosystem A, an immortal organism. But in context of ecosystem B, that organism might have a l day lifespan. And since ecosystem B can be a future situation of ecosystem A...

C. Most importantly, BIOLOGY doesn't have a standard of what's "normal" for humans--that is ENTIRELY a social construct. We consider high/low blood pressure abnormal because we consider a
healthy" blood pressure normal and merely define those other two in relation to it. Sure, we might use biology to give reasons why the normal zone is currently healthy for humans. But that's about all.

Making the claim that heterosexual intercourse is what is "natural" is claiming that biology has an intent for parts, and it doesn't. Humans use their parts according to their social systems, and biology doesn't give a damn what they do. Biology does not accept the idea of PURPOSES. There is no "purpose" for the penis or vagina. There are things they can and cannot do, yes. But biology honestly doesn't give a crap if you use them for heterosexual intercourse or decide to use them exclusively for performance art.

We, as a culture, could very easily decide to never use our genitals for intercourse. Sure, without the aid of science we would die off, but biology doesn't care. There is nothing "unnatural" in using our parts in whatever way we see fit. If it is biologically possible, than it is supported by biology.

D. Biology favors diversity with heed to survival of a species. There are studies that show families with gay aunts/uncles tend to produce more children. So there very well may be an evolutionary "reason" why homosexuality exists.

(My Little Porny.)

I have to wonder how many have heard others claim that homosexual sex is nature's way of saying to reproduce less.

It's an elegant solution, when you think about it. Everyone's happy! Except bigots of course.

Yeah. I don't really think humanity is even at a point where our overpopulation would demand such a thing from evolution or whatever.

that's the point, though. It can't come from evolution.

Oh man, I'm dying.

And on the 8th day, He said "Let there be different positions and oral" and there were different positions and oral.

Leave your own little twisted fantasies out of this.

If you are willing to boil down sex to a sperm donor and a carrier, I don't know why you'd give a damn about what anyone else does in bed.

Hey Belkira, I heard Evanescence was just finishing up recording their next album in Nashville. Got any ins for me?

This is way more important than gay rights.

Apparently they are at Blackbird Studios recording with Producer Nick Raskulinecz.

Haha oh well. I thought I'd try to derail an Alma thread anyway.

Looks like they're based in Knoxville. Maybe Varus can help?

I love knowing that lolgaxe's search history is now full of terms like "Seahorse mating" and "Horse masturbation."

"Now"?

EDIT: DAMN YOU SELF-DEPRECATING LOLGAXE.

Edited, Jun 24th 2011 4:51pm by Eske

Wait...so the best way to punish the horse is to attach something to rub it against more? Are these managers celibate?

That might be a Top-10 worst gbaji analogy right there.

Edited, Jun 24th 2011 6:18pm by Spoonless

tl:dr: People can be sick and or handicap. To argue that an organ isn't suppose to be a certain a way is to argue against the aforementioned statement.



So, are you claiming that sickle cell in Africa isn't bad?



I'm not arguing on semantics and I think this is exactly what we are doing. At the end of the day, hearts beat, lungs expand, blood flow, etc. None of what you mentioned counters that.

Not worth it Eske. Let someone else bash their head for no reason.

Well, if you have a problem with my responses, then you address my responses, not ask me the same questions and expect a different answer.

/smh

Sex is for procreation, that's why it always leads to babies.

It's a trap!

You gonna send me some tire iron pics or what?

It's not like the kettle is full of grape kool aid.