You can't compare my Quietus to his....it makes no sense. You said his was 1500-2500ish on EXP level mobs with Souleater. Mine was on HNM level mobs (Eccentric Eve) and various NMs around Abyssea for 1700-2.9k, without Souleater. ****, for the sake of argument let's say I used Souleater on a few of those....Guillotine would still benefit more from it and he did less damage on weaker mobs.
1500-2500 on EXP level mobs isn't mindblowing damage, especially not with Souleater. It's borderline terrible damage actually. ****, that's 2005 EXPing in Sky damage. You can't look at someone who is obviously performing well beneath the potential of the WS and make declarative statements like you are. And for the record I have no idea what a Studio Gobli is....the only reference to mods I've seen on the 'net is from tests that I've done.
Secondly I have no idea what buffs he had, or what gear he used. How do you know I have better gear than him, you said you didn't check him.
Lastly, nobody is averaging the same damage as my Quietus with Guillotine on the same mobs. Not even me. Trust me I've tried. For example, use Guillotine on Pascerpot. Can you do multiple 2.3k-2.7 Guillotines in a row, without BRD, COR, or Souleater? With just atmas and food? No.
If people could pull comparable damage Guillotines out their *** at will nobody would be saying DRK is currently the gimpest DD in the game.
If I get around to it I'll get a parse running and compare the two WS. But again, I finished Maschu+2 recently and use it and Ukko's Fury for pretty much everything now.
Ok, first of all, he used souleater twice, so the chance it effecting the result is very minimal consider how many WS was performed, and without knowing if he used with guillotine or with quietus. Second, like I said, what does buff or no buff have anything to do with the comparison? if it was in a relatively no buff situation, let me ask you which WS would benefit the most from a no buff situation? a WS with ignore defense or a WS that is multihit? Third, it is not hard to know that his gears are worst than yours, not hard to do now a day with ffxiah (Ivaan is the name, you can check, and you can tell me if you think your gears are better than his). Fourth, studio gobli is a JP website that is usually first hand on every game related mechanic, they were the one that figured out mob stats and alot of WS property when this game was in its darkage. So the information from there is usually very very accurate if not conclusive. Just for information purpose, it is saying that the WS is 3.0 ftp 40% str and 40% mnd.
So you put up those numbers on HNM etc etc, why does Ground strike do better than Spiral **** on HNM type of mob despite a lower ftp and low weapon base damage? Duh... the ratio bonus, and why does your number look so good on HNM? Duh... ignore defense. You seem to think fighting HNM and fighting EXP mob should make a huge difference on this WS, which is exactly what it isn't about. It is a spinning slash +1 that is very consistent and does well on harder mobs. Ask yourself do you do that much more with this WS on EXP mob than on HNM like you seem to describe? You ask a question, can you do multiple 2.3-2.7k guillotine in a row without BRD, COR? (took out SE cuz it is not needed) I will say no, and I have been saying no. But my point is with the proper buff not including souleater, guillotine can do just that.
I am comparing the cap of the two WSs, Quietus is easier to cap while guillotine is alot harder to cap, that doesn't mean Quietus caps higher. I am merely saying the type of damage Quietus is putting up is achievable by guillotine giving enough buff excluding SE not under the same buff, which IMO makes it a mediocre WS, but is it useful on HNM? sure it is, no one is denying its usefulness.
I was shocked that his guillotine was so close to his quietus, that's something I would never have expected. So I don't think you need to be so defensive, I was once in the school of thought that Quietus is by far the better WS until he started spamming guillotine. Maybe you just haven't spammed guillotine enough lately?
But anyway, take it as what it is worth. You can say the player is gimp, wrongfully geared etc etc, but in the end, which kind of player is going to benefit more from a WS that ignores defense? you should know the answer. There is a reason any gimp sam who uses gekko can put up decent WS number while a gimp drk will have a hard time putting up decent guillotine number.