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Tried ZNM Velionis, but lost. My strategy was to go /nin, when he cast a single target spell I would run in and quick draw, if it was a -ga I would run out of range. The problem is the camp.

Most places have aggro mobs, so you need to drag him to one of the Apkallu camps, which is easy to do as he stops to try to cast every few seconds. But there is no loop to run around, which means at some point you have to cross his path.

I would run to one end, wait for him to cast a single target spell, run past, and hope he didn't -ga me before I got out of range. Magus Roll helped when spells landed.

But then the thing that lost it for me, at 15% hp it has a chainspell effect, it will have almost instant cast and no recast time. I tried to run past him and got hit by a few spells very quickly and died. According to wiki, he doesn't lose this effect.

So I don't think that cor can solo this past the last 15% hp unfortunately.

Does this matter? Can you just zone on a teleporter, let it regen a tic, then reclaim it unraged? If this is possible, are there any other reasons this wouldn't be soloable?

It'll slow down kills, but for casters /NIN is a decent idea. It totally negates non-AoE spells.

My first QD solo was the WotG BLM mob. AM and tier IV spells, I'd just stay in range and fire off QDs while he was casting and let a shadow eat the spell. I did lose hate a few times just like how you described.

Another option is if you are /mage use a DoT on him so at least if he unclaims he won't regen. Also when reclaiming, if you don't have QD up a gun shot at max range to make sure you stay out of range might work.

Not sure what you tried so this may be stuff you already attempted.

Have had a tough time finding people to help me farm the boxes for SCNM fight in La Vaule, so I started trying to solo some of them.

After my first day I gave up on the solo idea, not because of difficulty, but time requirements. I don't have the patience to kite something for 2+ hours, so I brought a friend to help speed things up. The NM was always on me so it shows that it is possible to solo if you have the time (I'm not aware of these things having rage timers). To my great amusement, any time the NMs would look at my friend he'd die. I really have to thank him for being a good sport!

Anyways, killed two last night and have plans to try the rest. I only really expect difficulty with two of them: the ranger NM (Cogtooth Skagnogg) because of gravity and the monk one (Falsespinner Bhudbrodd) because of charm.

Hermes Sandals used for all.

Agrios.
Wiki claims he's a rng, he's not. I suspect this idea comes because he uses a tp move called catapult. This move is normally something used only by rng gigas mobs as a normal attack, however for this NM it's a tp move only. I think he's a warrior, as he double attacks a lot.

I went /nin because I couldn't find a safe, circular area to kite in. Rolls i used were Wizard's and Dancer's (double attack means you'll probably get hit a few times). I kited up and down the river that stretches from I9 to J11. He's easy to pull, just shoot him and run to I9. Keep your eyes open, you'll probably link half of the mobs from that central house. If you do, just run all the way to I9 to lose aggro on them. You'll also lose aggro on Agrios, but he walks back to his spawn quite slowly so he's easy to reclaim.

Once you have him there alone its a simple matter of running up and down the river QDing him. You'll frequently lose aggro, which I found actually makes things easier as it gives you time to recast utsu if need be. Just be sure to reclaim him before he regens. There's fairly frequent water and lightning weather here for those of you with Obis.

One thing to be careful of: if he does hit you a few times and gets enough tp to do a ws (which he probably will just because of double-attack), he'll do 3 in a row. These are pretty harmless until you get him to lower HP, where he starts using a tp move called Daunting Hurl. This is a game ender if you get hit, as it causes Terror. So keep those shadows up!

With a bst/whm along with me it took about one hour to kill. On a solo attempt I went for about 70 minutes and got him down to about 50% before losing interest and letting him go, so you'd be looking at about 2hours to solo.



Coinbiter Cjaknokk
Similar strategy to Agrios. I would say /nin is a necessity as this guy has a real nasty tp move and seems to have very powerful regain.

The pull for this one is a bit tricky. I tried to do it solo several times but could never get the NM alone. The initial pull requires a lot of linked mobs, these mobs in turn link everything in the central house as you run past it. If you get an ugly pull it seemed that following the river to D7 caused all the mobs to despawn before they get to you.

The NM stands in F6 and from my experience is impossible to pull without links. The solo strategy was just to shoot him and run run run! The problem is that by the time I shed aggro from all the other mobs, he'd be back home. The duo strategy (with my suicidal bst/whm friend again) came with a bit of unpredicted trouble. I shot the NM and ran southeast to the river system and followed it to J11. My bst partner followed behind the NM and waited for him to deaggro me. When he did, he put his pet on it and ran down the west river (G8 to D8). When I lost all my mobs (which took a while because of aggro from the house), I ran over to help him. Unfortunately he somehow pulled aggro from the house as well and ended up dying. Luckily had pulled the NM far enough away that I could grab him aggro free.

From this point forward it is possible to solo, though it is more difficult than Agrios. Same idea as last NM, Wizard and Dancer roll, keep shadows up and go back and forth along the river. The NM spams tp moves, even if he doesn't hit you. His favorite is Shoulder Charge which seemed to be something like Goblin Rush with an additional effect of defense down. This move would sometimes strip 3 shadows from me and still do moderate damage (~200-300dmg). What is particularly dangerous is that he uses this as soon as he's in range. So if you don't get shadows up before you change direction, you're as good as dead. I ate a few painful hits, one bringing me down to 10hp. He also seems to have a slight +movement enhancement (or he doesn't path as bad as other NM). It was noticeably more difficult to gain ground on him.

I eventually worked out a running routine that took a bit of risk away. On the west end of the river system (before going north) there is a little river bank on the south side. Run up the back side and follow this bank east and drop into the river. The NM likes to stay in the river, so you'll be out of range when he tries to do Shoulder Charge on you. I never found a good turn around place on the east side of the river, I just made sure to have a full utsu up and ate the TP moves as I ran past.

The fight took about 80 minutes with a bst/whm partner. Could have been faster, but my friend spent a decent amount of time drinking the river water at the start. Once we got the hang of his behavior we took him down pretty quick, probably looking at about 2hours solo.





edit: added Coinbiter Cjaknokk


Edited, Sep 16th 2009 3:30pm by Odjay

He is bad, best I can say is get alot of SMNs on him.

One thing I want to add into this. For the 45 seconds (assuming QD mirke) youa re not QD'ing, build a PDR set. Every now and again, for whaetver reason, the thing I am killing will get a hit in, my PDR set saved me quite a few times.

This is what I use:
Staff: Terra (20% Physical)
Head: Darsteel Cap +1 (2% Physical)
Neck: Ritter gorget (25HP, 5 Evasion, 3 Emnity)
Ears: Ethereal/Drone
Body: Darksteel harness (3% Physical)
Hands: Denali wristbands (2% damage, 6 Evasion)
Rings: Jelly (5% Physical, +5% Magical)/Patronus (2% Physical)
Back: Shadow Mantle (Happen to have this from having PLD lvld)
Waist: Scouter's rope (4 Agi, 10 Evasion)
Legs: Darksteel Subligar +1 (3% Physical)
Feet: Hermes

This adds up to 37% Physical damage reduction, and 99% of the damage I take while I QD kite is physical. Also has some Evasion and Agi in places I couldn't get PDR in. I highly recommend putting together at least a small PDR set for running in between charges up.

Those ZNM mobs won't deaggro, so you can pop them, run, sneak/invis past the aggro on the way to the camp, and wait for them to turn up.

QD Mirke, Pendant and Denali Kecks will help speed up the fight, but you can still win without them.

I went /blm to Brass Borer, and got killed by a couple of Cannonballs. Once you get the hang of it they can be avoided, but it would be safer to go /nin first time.

Thanks :) Sounds like Brass Borer will be my first solo attempt in a while!

I'm planning on going /NIN. When I kited on NIN before, I realized how fast/hard Cannonballs come in and since it's my first solo, I'm expecting some issues with my macros and want the cushion.

Thanks!

In addition to above question about tools, would Ullikummi be soloable around one of the teleport platforms? I'd think it would be, but I haven't fought it much and might be missing something.

Oops...yeah...meant Quick Draw Cards.

Got my Denali Legs, Hermes' Sandles, Cast Iron Plate, and Brass Borer pop :) Last pieces are a macro set to avoid blinking and a few stacks of Water Cards.

I started playing around last night with it and will look around a bit here, but any tips would be appreciated. Thanks all for the help!

Brass Borer downed in 45 minutes, used about the same number of cards as above.
One thing to watch out for is that his Cannonball has no build-up time, he uses it right away with no "The Brass Borer readies Cannonball" he just uses it at whim. He can use it back-to-back as well so i'd advise keeping about 2 shadows up at all times incase a macro misfires.
Would it be possible to kite Chigre with +8% Movement Speed ASA legs or will i have to suck it up and buy Hermes?

Some of the newer NM's I've been soloing include Flockbock (use ice cards, don't believe wiki) & Sluagh (fire/water work well).

Boompadu- My very first solo because of the slow moving speed. It was annoying first time around because he kept unclaiming on me. Secondtime was much easier. 0/2 on subligar 40-50min fight. D:

Biast- Not really a solo but I did kite and do most of the DMG to him. I got him after ls member got nomnom by it after he killed Shadow Dragon.

Barbaric Weapon- I HATE this NM 1/8.5 on him. "0.5" because on my first attempt soloing it. I got him down to 70% and some RDM stole it from me. They died and I got it back and solo it down to 30% and they came and stole it again. They didn't die the second time around. I did solo it 3 times after that. NM unclaims way too much for a comfortable attempt to solo but still soloable.

Done him twice with a bit of help but the help just sped up kills, would have been an easy solo either way.

What I've found is that the center portion isn't a drop dead they will be gone by then rule, but a general idea. I've gotten one of his link friends when he runs that hit me right as they entered the Salvage Porter area and I ran him to the center portion. He didn't lose aggro until I was past the next porter on my route.

Both times I've fought him, I ran back to the salvage porter that he left the area and he'd return and picked up any links there, and just ran my route and they eventually deaggro'd. I then went back and picked up the NM along my kite path and resumed as normal.

Don't assume links are gone until you can get a long stretch and see they're not there. In the fights I did, took about 1/4 to 1/2 of a lap around with a ranged Qiqirn.

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Also of note, if you have a SCH that is helping, have them cast whatever element storm you're using as a shot. Even with double weather, it seemed to increase the chance that I'd get the full weather bonus and if there was no weather, it would increase my shots about 35 points from time to time. Good duo partner with Helix and storms.

Edited, Feb 10th 2010 12:02pm by dawgdchi

For Dea jsut bring a set of powder boots for the initial pull, should give you enough room.

I tried Dea again using the Powder Boots suggestion, worked really well.
What is the best kiting path for Nuhn? Last time i tried kiting him in his pop room i died amazingly fast.

Anyone think Morille Mortelle is possible /rdm for dia when he de aggros?