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#1 Nov 05 2016 at 1:28 AM Rating: Excellent
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Hello guys,

Here the second part of the Luclin video :

https://youtu.be/aMW2kGZ4tLc

Edited, Nov 5th 2016 9:30am by Adonhiram
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#2 Nov 06 2016 at 6:37 AM Rating: Excellent
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Lot of work put into this, nice job.

Raises some good points of the historical context of Luclin and how it was perceived.

Making ogres significantly taller in the new models is a bit of a head scratcher, for example.
#3 Nov 07 2016 at 6:46 AM Rating: Excellent
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Thanks for posting the videos. I don't know anything about the progression server politics but they were enjoyable regardless.
#4 Nov 07 2016 at 10:48 PM Rating: Decent
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Thank you guys :-)

I agree about the ogres, but I think the worst was the new Frankenstein look. The old ogre model just looked so funny, the new one, I think, wanted to be scary and ended up just being ridiculous. The ogre theme will be again in part 3 of the video, in relation with AA, intelligence and some invisible bridge, to give you a hint...

The progression servers are quite competitive and way less peaceful than the live servers, at least from my last experience of live which was during HoT era. The forums can be very "bloody" and there are frequently tensions between major guilds.
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Adonhiram wrote:


The progression servers are quite competitive and way less peaceful than the live servers, at least from my last experience of live which was during HoT era. The forums can be very "bloody" and there are frequently tensions between major guilds.



Phinny lacks most of the guild drama because people aren't intense over world spawns thanks to the instancing. Also, several of the intense guilds stayed on Ragefire/Lockjaw... there is probably still more official board drama out of those 2 servers than Phinny. Not that Phinny is free of it, but it tends to be drama about 1-2 guilds "owning" zones or camps and forgetting that most of EQ is middle aged adults that should be able to play nice.

There was more recent Phinny drama over an apparent afk bot mage duo/group killing in rathe for days on end.
#6 Nov 08 2016 at 11:02 PM Rating: Decent
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snailish wrote:
Adonhiram wrote:


The progression servers are quite competitive and way less peaceful than the live servers, at least from my last experience of live which was during HoT era. The forums can be very "bloody" and there are frequently tensions between major guilds.



Phinny lacks most of the guild drama because people aren't intense over world spawns thanks to the instancing. Also, several of the intense guilds stayed on Ragefire/Lockjaw... there is probably still more official board drama out of those 2 servers than Phinny. Not that Phinny is free of it, but it tends to be drama about 1-2 guilds "owning" zones or camps and forgetting that most of EQ is middle aged adults that should be able to play nice.

There was more recent Phinny drama over an apparent afk bot mage duo/group killing in rathe for days on end.


Well, look at the "Looking for a new guild" thread on the DBG forums, 10k views, 180 replies right now, and it is a Phinny issue, isn't it ? Honestly, I think things have changed on Ragefire and Lockjaw since Kunark and early Velious era, the relations between guilds and also groups (shard camping starting on RF e.g.) have become more civilized. Darkwind had a rotation agreement with Tempus and False Prophecy in the two last months of Velious which worked well and which was renewed at Luclin start to share Emperor and Seru and till now it seems to work well too. Of course you are right on instancing which is globally a peace factor for obvious reasons, not denying that fact.


Edited, Nov 9th 2016 6:03am by Adonhiram
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Adonhiram wrote:



Well, look at the "Looking for a new guild" thread on the DBG forums, 10k views, 180 replies right now, and it is a Phinny issue, isn't it ? Honestly, I think things have changed on Ragefire and Lockjaw since Kunark and early Velious era, the relations between guilds and also groups (shard camping starting on RF e.g.) have become more civilized. Darkwind had a rotation agreement with Tempus and False Prophecy in the two last months of Velious which worked well and which was renewed at Luclin start to share Emperor and Seru and till now it seems to work well too. Of course you are right on instancing which is globally a peace factor for obvious reasons, not denying that fact.



There's a handful of guilds on Phinny that brought legacy drama baggage with them. Those same guilds have a few official board heavy posters that (for lack of better words) troll each other a lot. There's also a "Daybreak does nothing so I am going to post a shaming video/thread" culture that some are really into. The thread you mention has a lot of all 3 going on, plus a misleading title that would garner some clicks.

There's a thread on the Fang of Xalgoz drop that is a good test of this. Is the person is a certain guild really up to the nefarious conspiracy people are saying, or are they just unluckily farming a drop and people assume it's 100% evil going on due to the guild tag?

I'm not at all in favour of someone maliciously farming a drop, but if someone wants to spend all of there live playtime killing giants in Rathe I am not going to cry about it, I'm just not going to be in Rathe. I get that it is different when it is a quest NPC or named drop. It's a big world with instancing, so it's generally not that hard to avoid the goofs. I've also found that one of the best ways to avoid server drama is to stay off the official boards entirely, in the past I'd stay out of general chat channels too but this hasn't been too bad the past few years in my experience.


Edited, Nov 9th 2016 6:49am by snailish
#8 Nov 09 2016 at 10:02 PM Rating: Good
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I hear you, ok. Yes, the first thing which -negatively- surprised me as I came back to EQ after 5 years (so I missed the whole progression thing) was the violence of the official TLP forums. I started to look into it as Lockjaw opened and it was the golden age of anti mage bot threads :-) This delayed my comeback but finally the need for EQ became too strong !
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