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#1 Aug 13 2013 at 6:14 AM Rating: Excellent
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Hi all,

This is just for fun and will in no way advance your character. It also requires that you have a character of reasonable level, say 60+.

The idea is to put all your equipment in your bank, get naked. All items must go, although you are allowed a few empty bags. No money either. Then spend some time to try and re-equip your character with a few limits. Do that for a while, then come here and tell your story.

Here are some limits:
- You cannot do quests, not even the noob ones in Crescent Reach.
- You cannot buy stuff in the Bazaar. You are allowed to buy stuff from NPC vendors.
- You are allowed your maps, spells and skills. This includes AA abilities.
- No mercenaries.
- It's more fun if you go places you haven't seen before.
- It ends when you get bored with it.

Obviously this will be easier for some classes than for others. Pet classes will have it easy, warriors not so much.

I don't know if this has been on these forums before; if so then I apologize for making a new thread :-)

Here is my own short story.
My character is a level 66 wood elf ranger of Tunare.

First off to the bank and unload stuff. I left with only one 10-slot bag, no weight reduction.

Off to Kelethin, birthplace of my character (despite what Origin thinks), thinking that I would kill some orcs in Crushbone. Easy enough to get there, Kelethin stone in PoL and let's get to business. I found some orcs outside and killed a few, mainly with nukes, since my hand-to-hand skill is very low. Got a rusty scythe on my second kill. Not ideal, but better than fists. Killed some more orcs and got a rusty mace and axe. Better. I looted some cloth armor with AC only as well.

Time to enter Crushbone, now that I had some weapons. Discovered that the mobs con red to me, so the zone has been revamped. Temporarily or permanently, it doesn't matter, I can't kill stuff here. On the way out I killed a few more orcs and scored a Simple Defiant Chain bracer, yay! Also, I am getting warnings about not having any food or drink, so it's time to pull out that foraging skill I haven't used since 2003.

So I thought I would head to Castle Mistmoore. But first to Kelethin, sell loot and see if I can get a bow. I found a hunting bow and some arrows and bought those. I should have just bought one arrow, since I have Endless Quiver, but I got 100. Money wasted, oh well.

I enter Lesser Faydark, run to the southern wall and head west towards MM. I accidentally run into that darkelf camp and they all aggroed on me (6-8 of them), so I thought I would teach them not to mess with a ranger of Kelethin, but in a short while they had me down to 50% health, and I hadn't even killed a single one. Time to call it a day and train to zone. So I enter Castle Mistmoore and test the first mob I see. It's killable, it takes a bit, what with rusty weapons and all. And it actually did damage to me, so I figured I better buff up. Much better. My strength buff, that I never use, since my stats normally are maxed out from gear, took my STR stat from 77 to 132, which should make a difference. Also, all the normal ranger buffs, skin, damage shield, run speed, attack buff, regen, damage proc. So I head into the zone, couldn't remember where to get from the main courtyard and into the castle itself. Check map, I have to go through that graveyard.

So I get into that little mausoleum and there is no door or anything. Look around a bit and fall down a trap. Oh bugger, I recall that MM is like that with lots of traps and walls you can walk through. And most mobs had aggroed on the way in (which got me another defiant bracer!), so I invis'ed up and went in further. Check track and there is few names up, and I decide to go for the advisor and see what he drops. Where to drop invis? I attacked a few mobs in the throne room, only 3 mobs there, and only two of them attacks me. I kill them, and score a Fine Steel Short Sword, then kill the last one. Good thing i have ensnare or I wouldn't be able to do this. I open the door to the next room and promptly two gargoyles and a darkelf caster attacks me. Bugger. Whats worse is that once I killed the caster I discover that the Gargoyles are invulnerable. What the hell? Is that some kind of buff? Oh no, I don't have any magic weapons, so I panicked a bit and decided to zone. Ran back towards zone, and remembered that I could run out and jump down to the courtyard and then zone. So I did that and survived. So the trip got me a bracer and a FS short sword.

Ok, **** Faydwer, where to go next? I decided on Najena, I didn't think I had been there before. So I head there (sell stuff on the way), I am now up to 8 plat!

Right, back to PoK, go through Nektulos and Lavastorm and enter Najena. Look around a bit, notice the Tentacle Terror and remember that I have in fact been here before. It's just been a while, a long long while. So I start looking around, and most mobs don't really aggro on me, which is a nice change from MM. The ogre guards do, so I kill them, and get myself a Fine Steel Rapier. Nice. I fall down a pit and find myself in a cell and find myself being attacked by an ogre called Moosh. And he drops nice defiant. Not chain though, so I bag it for vendor. However, he didn't drop the key to get out of that **** cell.

So I find myself in a cell, deep in a noob dungeon with no way out. Well I have Origin AA up, but decide to look around first. There is an ogre guard out there, I aggro him through the bars and he does not drop any key either. So I start looking for run-through walls and somehow get myself though the door. Is it bugged somehow? No idea, but I am out. Ok, look around, there are names on my tracking and one of them (Rathyl) is close by. I can't get in there, I need a key. Bah. So I start roaming the place invis. Some skeletons attack, but they are no match for my much-higher-level leetness. They don't drop anything useful, though.

On the map, there is a room called Najena Throne room, which I decide to head for, since that sounds like a place for a named. I find the door and I don't have the key. Bah. Suddenly an undead froglok attacks me. What the hell, there have been no other frogloks in the dungeon? Anyway, he is also invulnerable! I'll just nuke him down, and notice not only do nukes work, but also my weapon proc (from buff) and my damage shield damages him, so he is soon dead. Sigh, I should have done the same in Castle Mistmoore.

Anyway, time to explore other parts of the dungeon and soon I kill the Ogre Guard captain who is also nice enough to drop two keys! One is the guard key, which I could have used for the cell earlier. He also some plate armor that I cannot use. The other one unlocks a door for Bonecracker, I read and he's up on tracking. So I head there and kill him. It's pretty easy to pull these mobs, since they come alone when aggroed, due to my level. He drops a key (I forget which one) and a str+2 ring which I equip.

His key allows me to get to Rathyl, so I head there and kill him. I get a 4-slot bag and another key. Sigh. Ok, time to check that throne room and no, it is still locked. I decide I have had enough and leave the place. Back to PoK, sell stuff and I am above 50 plat. Nice.

End status: two FS 1H piercers, two defiant bracers, one Simple and one Ornate, some cloth and a +2 str ring. Also, I got a bow and some arrows, but never really used it, since range was so low and I had nobody to hold aggro for me.

End of story so far, now give me your stories!

#2 Aug 13 2013 at 8:44 AM Rating: Excellent
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This is interesting to me because it'd circumvent my complaint about all my gear being Prestige if I was to reinstall. I'll have to think on this -- might be entertaining with my Shadowknight (seems a bit too easy with my mage or bard).
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#3 Aug 13 2013 at 4:17 PM Rating: Excellent
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I'd play along but for a wizard class this is like, do what you always do except now fight only one blue mob at a time, and cast Force Shield every third spell instead of after combat.
#4 Aug 13 2013 at 5:08 PM Rating: Excellent
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#5 Aug 13 2013 at 7:45 PM Rating: Good
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This is really interesting... you might have motivated me... rated up for making me smile at least!
#6 Aug 13 2013 at 10:29 PM Rating: Excellent
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Inlee Moondark, lvl 72 Shadowknight was dusted off for this little experiment. She started naked except for a few empty bags which was mainly a function of my bank slots being fairly full. I started in Paineel and thought at first to grab a sword from the Warrens and then progress from there. Killed King Gragnar and his shaman buddy which netted me a bronze katana and that one light stone the shaman carries. I had the idea to go to Stonebrunt and see if any cold iron plate dropped and headed out, killing a few extra kobolds along the way. Nabbed a hunting bow but nothing much else.

In Stonebrunt, I made it up to the Raging Highland Kobold camp and started cracking skulls. A few pieces of the splint bamboo dropped and I realized the immediate flaw in my plan. A naked Erudite has a strength of 70 and that kobold armor is heavy. At least I had some pants now.

Went to Gunthak to use the book and had the notion to hit the beach and see if I couldn't farm some bone chips for pets (I killed a couple skeletons in Paineel before starting). Got insta-ganked by some pirate skeleton near the water who hit me for 1120 a blow. Oh well. Didn't lose my level and doubt this is a long term project anyway. I decided to go to Runnyeye and see if I couldn't grab some blackened alloy armor which is a heck of a lot lighter.

Runnyeye was fairly profitable. Had blackened alloy pants and gloves drop. Simple (?) defiant chest piece dropped soon after as well as boots and a shield. Found Lord Pickclaw up and he dropped the blackened alloy crown and the blackened alloy **** sword. Now we're rockin'! With the slow respawn rate in Runnyeye, I decided to head out and step up my game. I trotted across the Karanas (technically my unholy hell-pony trotted; I sat) and killed the named ogre chief guy along the way but he didn't drop anything. Went into Jaggedpine thinking I'd kill a few griffons and see if the griffon claw earring dropped. Instead, I got distracted wandering the Darkpaw tunnels. A few fights in, I had an ornate defiant longsword drop along with gloves. I found Barduck Darkpaw up and decided to engage despite him conning green to me. My half-naked self was getting knocked around pretty good until I harm touched him and ended the fight. He dropped the Sabertooth tunic thingie which was exciting until I noticed it had worse AC than the breastplate I got in Runnyeye. For that matter, a stone-studded buckler dropped which was also inferior to the shield that dropped in Runnyeye. All sorts of things you could say about itemization at that point.

After that I kicked around Jaggedpine a little, killed some griffons (no drops) and one of the named poachers who dropped a magic neckpiece (collar of stalking?) with a little AGI boost on it. That was actually nice to see since my base agility score is a dismal 65. Camped out after that.

As expected, magic makes a lot of the fighting fairly trivial. I think my buffed pet was outdamaging me sometimes since it was hasted and I was using old ratio weapons. The defiant drops took a lot of the planning out of it -- no sense in tracking some named for a drop that will be inferior to random trash-style drops. If I make another run at it, I may hit Velious for orc claw earrings or maybe somewhere in Kunark. I don't have anything on my fingers or ears yet.
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#7 Aug 14 2013 at 10:57 AM Rating: Decent
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Level 100 Mage

Got naked, sent pet on a rampage through HoT. Fully geared within 30min.

Edited, Aug 14th 2013 12:59pm by NibookuWoo
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Got naked, sent pet on a rampage through HoT. Fully geared within 30min.

Tongue-in-cheek I'm sure but, yeah, the most entertaining classes for this would likely be hybrids (less downtime) or melee classes. Pet classes would barely be changing their style and nukers wouldn't be changing much... just getting annoyed at low mana pools. At least a shadowknight or monk can keep whaling on things.

The more I think about it, if I continue I'll probably institute a "no defiant" rule and drop the few bits I picked up. Otherwise, the process is really "farm level 40ish stuff until I get full Ornate Defiant; move on to level 60ish stuff and farm that instead" with no consideration for zones or zone-specific drops.
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#9 Aug 14 2013 at 8:32 PM Rating: Good
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So I tried it... Round 1: Dusted off the really old 67 enchanter

Kept one bag, put all my gear in bank except some food, drink and tiny daggers (tiny daggers cost nothing so zoning out to kill 5 mobs to zone back in to get daggers seemed like a waste of time. As for food/water... the "out of" spam drives me nutty).

Going places I haven't been before/much was really tricky. I also decided to follow Jophiel's example and vendor any defiant drops.

Location #1 Erud's Crossing . Zone is so low level that my piddly chanter DS let me chain-tash mobs onto me. My pet was eating them up too. I was actually indifferent with the Kerrans... thought for sure I had killed Kerrans somewhere with the chanter in the past but maybe different faction. Defiant silk sleeve, bracer and robe dropped (lol) vs. almost nothing useful. Ultimately I got a giant snake fang and a greater lightstone . The lightstone actually improved my view slightly (despite having a sight buff cast on me). I didn't realize there was mobs out in the water/under water so I actually have more of the zone to go do... someday maybe.

Location #2 I was running through commonlands (a zone I didn't use much until current progression server launched) and noticed the Deathfist orcs don't like me so I wiped up a camp. Nothing chanter usable.

Location #3 Kithicor Forest . Now, I have dabbled in Kith over the years, and actually gained a few levels there on progression before Kunark opened, but I have never really felt I had finished with it. Social undead mobs here actually took my health down to danger zones (granted I wasn't mezzing, using rune...). I looted a fine steel staff which I decided to equip. I camped in Kith... not sure I will do a round 2 on chanter or not.

Thoughts: This might be more fun on a pure melee (as others have said) as spells/pet are so overpowered. For me, I have played so many low-level alts over the years there is only a handful of zones under level 65 that I haven't spent serious time in. I also tend to give up on alts around level 50... I do have a 65 monk that might be perfect for this.
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After purging myself of the Defiant stuff when I logged in tonight, I now have...

Orc Fang earrings (x2)
Orc Fang Necklace
Ry'Gorr Chain Coif
Ry'Gorr Chain Wrists (x2)
Sabertooth Forged Ringmail
Blackened Alloy Spaulder
Blackened Alloy Gloves
Bamboo Splint Skirt
Bamboo Splint Legs
Boots of Stalking
Blackened Alloy **** Sword

Still no rings, back slot or sleeves Smiley: frown
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#11 Aug 15 2013 at 5:57 AM Rating: Good
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Interesting idea but I don't think I have enough bank room on any of my toons to do this. Plus they are all spell casters/hybrids.

Was wondering why Joph was going to all those familar zones instead of new ones when I realized there are very few zones Joph hadn't been to when he was active.
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#12 Aug 15 2013 at 7:35 AM Rating: Excellent
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Yeah, the only lowbie zones I haven't done much of are out of Crescent Reach and, really, I never cared so much for those. Although I was in Crystal Caverns last night which I haven't been in much.

Many of my maps are missing which has been fun. I did not instinctively know where to find the Ry'Gorr fort in the snow and dark after three and a half years away Smiley: laugh I know I can download map packs, I was just expecting it to be there out of old habits since it didn't occur to me I had just reinstalled.

Server seemed mighty dead unless there's a new hang-out these days that's not PoK or Guild Lobby. I never saw another person except for maybe 10 people between those two zones and once passed a young necro in Qeynos Hills.

It's been an interesting experiment because, absent any real risk so far (aside from Barduck), I notice other struggles -- almost all my stats are under 100 still; strength has been a chore. I had hoped to get the WR bag in Crystal Caverns but no dice (it now occurs to me that I might have one in the bank and the Lore tag would have prevented me from looting it). My resists are almost all base. Was funny to see myself rooted by Ry'Gorr Mystics last night; it never lasted long but it landed. I have no haste and feel as though I'm attacking through heavy syrup, especially with the delay on my BABS. Also how sparse some gear seems to be: no place I've gone through has had a magic ring in the loot table, for instance and my fingers are still bare.

You also really feel the impact of mudflation as you move from era to era and level tier to level tier. Defiant drops at level 20ish make everything in the old world from level 20-50+ obsolete. No real moral judgement on that, it's good for the new players to catch up and get somewhere in an empty world but you really feel how much old content is just... there, being old.

I camped in Eastern Wastes last night and will probably make a single clear through, hoping for an arm drop. Then perhaps LGuk to see if I can luck into a FBSS or other usable armor.

Edited, Aug 15th 2013 8:37am by Jophiel
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Round #2: Decided to stay on the chanter:

Logged back into Kithicor. ran into the middle of the zone and got enough adds to be at risk of death. Parked a few of them and decided to zone. Without gear or casting rune, Kith is actually dangerous. I should add that I've made about 15p and should by peridots for rune. My chanter is super low aa count as well. Killed about 10 mobs with no useful drops and decided to move on.

Ran into Commonlands so I dropped by befallen. Not a zone I have done much in, definately had to use the map lol. Got 3 pieces of cloth (pants, arms and wrist) so I am starting to be dressed. got bored so I hit "origin"... to my dismay my character has been changed to have Crescent Reach as home city (this chanter was made when LoY was the new expac...).
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