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#1 Jun 18 2007 at 10:50 AM Rating: Decent
What is the formula for determining if your lower level toon can group with a higher level toon. I've heard it's
if .5 X lowerlevel X 3 > higher level ----> you'll both get xp?

Any truth?
#2 Jun 18 2007 at 11:10 AM Rating: Decent
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That's basically it. I believe the exact formula is 1.5*lower rounding down + 1 = highest.

Some examples:
45 and 68 = 1.5*45 + 1 = 67(.5) + 1 = 68
46 and 70 = 1.5*46 + 1 = 69+1 = 70
49 and 74 = 1.5*49 + 1 = 73(.5) + 1 = 74
50 and 76 (75 max) = 1.5*50 + 1 = 75 + 1 = 76

Yther Ore.

Edited, Jun 18th 2007 3:14pm by Yther
#3 Jun 18 2007 at 5:24 PM Rating: Decent
That's correct, and I think at lower levels you always get experience if you're within 5 levels of one another, regardless of ratio.
#4 Jun 19 2007 at 9:44 AM Rating: Decent
i have it all figured out in excel program

the formula is LEVEL / 2 + LEVEL +1

i lvl a lot of 10-30 characters and use higher ones to help

lvl 20 / 2 + 20 +1 = 31 so lvl 20 can group with lvl 31 and both gain exp unless gray to 31 then only lvl 20 will gain exp

below is list from excel the .5 's just take the lesser value
lower lvl can lvl with higher lvl's
Low High
10 16
11 17.5
12 19
13 20.5
14 22
15 23.5
16 25
17 26.5
18 28
19 29.5
20 31
21 32.5
22 34
23 35.5
24 37
25 38.5
26 40
27 41.5
28 43
29 44.5
30 46
31 47.5
32 49
33 50.5
34 52
35 53.5
36 55
37 56.5
38 58
39 59.5
40 61
41 62.5
42 64
43 65.5
44 67
45 68.5
46 70
47 71.5
48 73
49 74.5
50 76
51 77.5
52 79
53 80.5
54 82
55 83.5
56 85
57 86.5
58 88
59 89.5
60 91
61 92.5
62 94
63 95.5
64 97
65 98.5
66 100
67 101.5
68 103
69 104.5
70 106
71 107.5
72 109
73 110.5
74 112
75 113.5
76 115
77 116.5
78 118
79 119.5
80 121
81 122.5
82 124
83 125.5
84 127

and of couse lvl 53 and higher with any lvl up to lvl 80 for next expansion.
other numbers there for the next 2-3 expansions

Edited, Jun 19th 2007 1:47pm by ltcommander
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#5 Jun 19 2007 at 11:08 AM Rating: Decent
one more thing. if you have higher lvl characters then what you need go get a monster change. you might have to be 4-5 lvls lower then what you wanted. but it helped.

the other thing i found from 2-3-4 boxing, is 2 lvl 17's can kill and gain 2 % exp per kill fast enough. VS having the same 2 lvl 17's and one lvl 25 added in, the kills are a bit faster 25-40% fast i found. But the exp is only 1% per kill dark blues this is to the lvl 17's.

if killing reds or yellows , the exp would be better but if the killing time takes 2 to 3 times as long and more risk to death. then just kill closer to eachothers lvl. for low lvls. higher 30-50+ not to sure i always 3-4 boxed for safty, usualy had a high lvl cleric or chanter around to save but when needed
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To play well with others is to NOT GET THEM KILLED

5x eve online (Currently playing 2 accounts)
1x darkfall "worse game ever"
8x EQ 1 accounts char's lvl 30-52 7 years (3 accounts active)2nd fav
6x Asheron's call lvl 40-99 one lvl 132 (FAV GAME ALL TIME)
2 EQ 2
3 Horizons
3 WOW
3 DAOC
1 D&D online
4 FFXI
2 vanguard
4 anarchy
2 SWG
1 lineage 2
2 AOC
1 LOTRO
1 City of H / V
beta's AC2,lotro,eq2,aoc, lineage 2, darkfall, crimecraft, fallen earth, aion, Jade Dynasty
#6 Jun 19 2007 at 9:16 PM Rating: Decent
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Will the lower level toon get all/some exp if the killing is done by the higher levels pet? Example: a 70 mage groups with a 50 tank and the mages pet does the killing. And what if the mobs are too low for the mage to get exp, but high enough for the tank?
#7 Jun 19 2007 at 11:43 PM Rating: Decent
i never tested it. but i have heard that if a characters pet just does the killing with no help or magic from it's own character the exp % is less then if he helped it. you can kinda see it a lower lvls too.

so i believe you's get some exp for his pet killing but not as much if he just killed or atleast helped

one old trick. not sure if this is agaist the rules or not. but one would start killing a mob with your help and when it was almost dead run out of a zone line , removing them from the exp pool, i think enchanters can also make mob forget them and just stop attacking it. ungroup and you'd finnish it off and get all exp.

this i read 4 yrs ago about powerlvling. no idea if it worked or still works.

but this might be cheating kinda, so don't really recomend it. but a lot say us 2-3-4 boxers are cheating to having our own groups or power lvlings. i say i pay for all 4 accounts for yrs, i should get the chioce on how i play as long as i never affect others play. or go against the end users agreement. and i don't

just be nice to others.
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To play well with others is to NOT GET THEM KILLED

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1x darkfall "worse game ever"
8x EQ 1 accounts char's lvl 30-52 7 years (3 accounts active)2nd fav
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2 EQ 2
3 Horizons
3 WOW
3 DAOC
1 D&D online
4 FFXI
2 vanguard
4 anarchy
2 SWG
1 lineage 2
2 AOC
1 LOTRO
1 City of H / V
beta's AC2,lotro,eq2,aoc, lineage 2, darkfall, crimecraft, fallen earth, aion, Jade Dynasty
#8 Jun 20 2007 at 12:38 AM Rating: Decent
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Sweet mother of Tunare, so many words.

The formula is:

Lowest level x 1.5 must be equal or higher than Highest level.
#9 Jun 20 2007 at 3:08 AM Rating: Decent
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You need the +1 in there Whitman, cause a 1.5*46 = 69 which is not higher than or equal to a 70, which a 46 can group with and both get experience.

And ITCommander, to get rid of the .5 in your excel, you can use =INT(1.5*cell)+1 for your calculation, substituting a cell reference or number for cell, and cell representing the lower level limit, and the calculation the higher one.

Yther Ore.
#10 Jun 04 2014 at 7:38 PM Rating: Decent
66 = 100 untrue ive tried grouping my 67 with my 100 bst and dont get exp think its 70 = 100
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#11 Jun 04 2014 at 9:14 PM Rating: Good
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I'd like to point out for the math disinclined that (.5X*3) and (.5X+X) and (1.5X) are all exactly the same thing. One of them is more simple than than the others (and thus is the correct expression to use).

Edited, Jun 4th 2014 8:15pm by gbaji
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#12 Jun 04 2014 at 9:59 PM Rating: Excellent
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Just to point the last post was from 2007 and level cap was 70 or 75 or how about 85, so the 30 level maximum span was unknown at the time. See https://everquest.allakhazam.com/wiki/EQ:Grouping_Level for a complete chart, with or without formulas.

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Edited, Jun 25th 2014 11:41am by Yther
#13 Jun 05 2014 at 6:57 AM Rating: Good
ahhhh well that helps alot thank you Yther :)
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