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#27 Feb 19 2007 at 2:09 AM Rating: Decent
Direchaos wrote:
Ok since we are talking about pve, Cleric damage is probably the best in game vs undead, even wizards would have trouble keeping up with the Smite line of spells, necro/pal/sk same thing , since they all get Smite spells.

So clerics meet all the requirements for a good tank.

1. Good defense
2. A way to keep aggro (healing)
3. Melee oriented spells/etc. (stun, hammer pet, str buff, self buffs etc, reverse ds)

I dare say clerics are probably best Defensive melee class in game, 2nd only to Warriors, but warriors cant heal, so probably makes clerics better for small group. Raid you want warriors tanking.

And at high level they get descent Nukes with good resist check (non undead nukes) so can deal out the damage.


Are we playing the same game?! Even with thier smite spells thier DPS is abysmal to say the least undead or not they wouldnt even rank top 5...

You dare say wrong plate armor does not make a good tank there is mitigation, discs and AAs that pallys SK's and warr's get that clerics never see. just because they can heal themselves dont make them a good tank that makes them a mana sponge.

Clerics are very tough but to even call them a real tank class is silly, They couldnt hold aggro to save thier lives (Healing dont generate the aggro you think it does) on top of the constant downtime there would be from them having to constantly heal themselves.

And if everything you said was even true your looking at it the wrong way everything you listed as a plus for clerics should be listed under pallys because of the fact they have better mitigation more HP's and AA's that make a tank well...a tank. Lastly if you really think clerics are that great of tanks you have not seen some skilled SK's a good SK with the gear and AA's are very impressive to watch between the ability to tap tank, pull and snare that with the mitigation and AA's trumps the cleric as well.

Besides the question was "whats best solo melee class" clerics are definately not that.
#28 Feb 19 2007 at 2:55 AM Rating: Decent
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Direchaos wrote:
1. Good defense
2. A way to keep aggro (healing)
3. Melee oriented spells/etc. (stun, hammer pet, str buff, self buffs etc, reverse ds)


Direchoas, have you ever played a cleric? I wish we did have all that but unfortunatly we're stuck with...

1. Decent (passable) defense
2. A way to keep aggro (stuns)
3. Melee oriented spells.... with the exception of RDS and Stun all are useless. (I don't see how self buffs are melee orientated?) This is because clerics nukes are on a magic based resist with a massive cast time, making it hard to pull off a spell without getting interrupted or resisted.

On my 75 cleric using a petrified splinterstaff (time lapse proc) the dps is abysmal.


Now, if this where a thread about the best solo caster type class... shamans would still be alot better. Seeing as this is a thread about the best melee class solo, clerics, with there almost non-existant melee dps are a poor suggestion indeed.

Sorry for the rant, just trying to put things into perspective.

edit: well damn, notinterested beat me to it.



Edited, Feb 19th 2007 5:57am by YCHIR

Edited, Feb 19th 2007 5:58am by YCHIR
#29 Feb 19 2007 at 6:11 PM Rating: Decent
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i have two clerics, one is a lvl 68 high elf, the other is a 51 human. the reason i started the second cleric, is because of how well healing does pull aggro.. my high elf is a wus, and couldnt take the punishment dealt out when i would heal and get aggro. My human cleric is much better equiped to take a beating, ie augs, aa's in sta, dex, all the things i didnt think i needed with the first one. i realize im only 51, but i can solo a yellow mob, or two white at a time. i wouldnt class myself as a solo class, but, i can handle my self if need be.
#30 Feb 20 2007 at 11:20 PM Rating: Decent
jimiterry wrote:
i have two clerics, one is a lvl 68 high elf, the other is a 51 human. the reason i started the second cleric, is because of how well healing does pull aggro.. my high elf is a wus, and couldnt take the punishment dealt out when i would heal and get aggro. My human cleric is much better equiped to take a beating, ie augs, aa's in sta, dex, all the things i didnt think i needed with the first one. i realize im only 51, but i can solo a yellow mob, or two white at a time. i wouldnt class myself as a solo class, but, i can handle my self if need be.


WTF are you serious?? Putting the time into gearing your 68 and getting him AAs wouldve been 100X better than rerolling...There is absolutely no real benefit going human over High elf they are not stronger or weaker.

On a side not if your pulling aggro healing either you or the tank is doing something wrong.

I just dont understand some people
#31 Feb 21 2007 at 4:04 AM Rating: Decent
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the reason i didnt go aa instead of re rolling, is she was a sit on her butt cleric all her life... which means she has no defensive or offensive skills... in order to get def up i would have to take some kind of beating which she couldnt...i started her back in 2000 when clerics were supposed to sit and stare at their book while others had all the fun. also, back then, she was created when you put your own points in, and being my first toon, she wasnt created very well... i play EQ to have fun.. is why i pay for 4 accts. If re rolling is what it took for me to enjoy playing a cleric...so be it... im actually having fun with her..revisiting all the old zones, camping for my epic 1, etc... so, suffice it to say, im Glad i re rolled;) one thing that helps, is my hubby has a 68 war he created back in 2000 as well. like me, he didnt make it too well.. so, he is having fun playin a lil war again as well. we make a pretty good duo.
#32 Feb 21 2007 at 7:16 AM Rating: Decent
jimiterry wrote:
the reason i didnt go aa instead of re rolling, is she was a sit on her butt cleric all her life... which means she has no defensive or offensive skills... in order to get def up i would have to take some kind of beating which she couldnt...i started her back in 2000 when clerics were supposed to sit and stare at their book while others had all the fun. also, back then, she was created when you put your own points in, and being my first toon, she wasnt created very well... i play EQ to have fun.. is why i pay for 4 accts. If re rolling is what it took for me to enjoy playing a cleric...so be it... im actually having fun with her..revisiting all the old zones, camping for my epic 1, etc... so, suffice it to say, im Glad i re rolled;) one thing that helps, is my hubby has a 68 war he created back in 2000 as well. like me, he didnt make it too well.. so, he is having fun playin a lil war again as well. we make a pretty good duo.


I believe that you can still go to the arena with a friend and let him whack you unarmed for defense.
#33 Feb 21 2007 at 9:51 AM Rating: Decent
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im sure you can.. but to me, re- rolling, visiting old zones, getting in the action instead of sitting, getting old keys, flags and doin progression, is fun... more fun then standing in the arena, and letting someone hit me enough to build up 68 lvls worth of defense... thanks for the input tho..
#34 Feb 21 2007 at 12:14 PM Rating: Decent
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I believe that you can still go to the arena with a friend and let him whack you unarmed for defense.

You believe incorrectly. PCs can't skill up on PC's melee at all. However get a pet class to beat you silly and you're in business.
#35 Feb 25 2007 at 12:34 PM Rating: Decent
I can solo very well with my Ber. very fast kills lots of fun can even kite if i want to . fear kite or normal kite lol.can solo easy in sunderrock
#36 Feb 27 2007 at 4:15 PM Rating: Default
alright look dont act like u dont know what is best melle solo.....
its pretty obvious....
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