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i can't decide between mage or beastlord suggestions pleaseFollow

#1 Nov 16 2005 at 12:12 PM Rating: Decent
ok first of all im talking totally solo in the 55+ game which is better soloing? not farming greens for plat or anything like that but for least downtime in cranking out AAs and exp which is better and why?

btw i currently have a lvl 55 mage im back from a 2 year break and he was still saved and i have been playing him a bit but also like the the beast a lot 2 so i want to play just one char cause with my work i don't have the time to put into 2 chars. which do you guys recomend and why? also if i go with beastlord im going to be a barb.
#2 Nov 16 2005 at 12:14 PM Rating: Decent
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Go with the mage since you already have gotten em to 55 but then a gain beastlords are fun to play
#3 Nov 16 2005 at 12:35 PM Rating: Decent
yeah but like i said im back from a 2year break so if in the 55+ game the bst is better i woudln't mind doing it again expecally sence i could twink him a bit
#4 Nov 16 2005 at 12:41 PM Rating: Decent
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Go with the cleric instead. Easiest class in game play, you have all sorts of pets, and folks just love you.

Or go play with BL.
#5 Nov 16 2005 at 12:45 PM Rating: Decent
ummm where the heck did he ask if he should play his cleric lol???

I would pick Mage if you ever even think your gonna plan to box

if your gonna be solo and never have more than one account pick bst

if those are the only two you will consider
#6 Nov 16 2005 at 12:46 PM Rating: Decent
Or you could just go necro.

#7 Nov 16 2005 at 1:06 PM Rating: Decent
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i'm lazy if i had put all that time into one char and get em to 55 compared to starting over i'd sure as heck keep leveling the mage. plus in the higher levels you get to sell pet toys and shurikens oooo at 55 even for you. As a monk myself you'd have a lifetime customer if i was on your server. That way you could twink you beastie and have fun later too

Edited, Wed Nov 16 13:17:02 2005 by galthran
#8 Nov 16 2005 at 1:19 PM Rating: Decent
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If you enjoy getting in a Melee to assist your pet roll a BL With the potions available down time will be low. If you want to sit back and nuke while your pet tanks or if you plan 2 boxing Roll the Mage or a Necro
#9 Nov 16 2005 at 2:29 PM Rating: Decent
Professor galthran
i am on your server, also no i will never 2 box, and i actually would stay with the mage before i would go necro, i like necros and all but its still a manly pet class that cast spells, i don't its a total different form of soloing then the mage is but its still a like. thats why im debaiting the best for something differnt but still good at soloing but i was told after 50 a beast isn't that great of a soloer thats why i asked in the 55+ game. also another reason is so i can take a few hits i think it would be easier to solo in a dungeon if you can take a few hits if you get an add or something but mabye im wrong.
#10 Nov 16 2005 at 2:38 PM Rating: Decent
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the problem with mobs 55+ is that they hit really hard in general. I doubt even a beastlord would solo well at that level though slow helps immensely. The nice thing about pure caster class is that you can usually do the mob in before it affects you. though they might chew up your pet. Look me up sometime i'm almost always needing shurikens unless i get them from a guildie. name is Korkoril.

Edited, Wed Nov 16 14:48:23 2005 by galthran
#11 Nov 16 2005 at 2:38 PM Rating: Good
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#12 Nov 16 2005 at 2:48 PM Rating: Decent
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Lanobil, he was asking which of two pet classes he should play.
The cleric is the best and easiest pet class to play.
#13 Nov 16 2005 at 3:19 PM Rating: Decent
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Lanobil, he was asking which of two pet classes he should play.
The cleric is the best and easiest pet class to play.
Cleric isn't a pet class. And he asked between mage and bst. Not all classes.
#14 Nov 16 2005 at 4:38 PM Rating: Good
cleric's are a great pet class, can have up to five pets in a group, and don't forget the cleric's hammer.

Someone is very humor deprived, I'd guess...
#15 Nov 16 2005 at 11:04 PM Rating: Default
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cleric's are a great pet class, can have up to five pets in a group, and don't forget the cleric's hammer.

Someone is very humor deprived, I'd guess...
Or maybe trying to remain on the OP request and not try to confuse him.
#16 Nov 17 2005 at 9:46 AM Rating: Decent
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My op to the OP did say, after telling how good the cleric is as a pet class, was to go BL.
He didnt seem confused. Lanobil maybe, but not the OP.

#17 Nov 17 2005 at 1:58 PM Rating: Decent
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Well i dont like the way the made Beastlords at all i think they should of gave them very powerful Were forms and maybe a very weak pet melee +pet imo is just silly

I had no problemo soloing past 55 as a MAGE hell i could even take stuff in maidens without the hill bug sure it was slow,but there are easier areas. You can alsways chain pet its easier than ever now and you sure as heck cant do that with bst right?
#18 Nov 17 2005 at 2:03 PM Rating: Decent
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fordraceingman wrote:
Professor galthran
i am on your server, also no i will never 2 box, and i actually would stay with the mage before i would go necro, i like necros and all but its still a manly pet class that cast spells, i don't its a total different form of soloing then the mage is but its still a like. thats why im debaiting the best for something differnt but still good at soloing but i was told after 50 a beast isn't that great of a soloer thats why i asked in the 55+ game. also another reason is so i can take a few hits i think it would be easier to solo in a dungeon if you can take a few hits if you get an add or something but mabye im wrong.


Necros do a LOT outside of their pets. Example - they have some of the highest DPS sustained on raid mobs (if not THE highest, it's impossible to parse DoTs and necros are very tight-lipped about their DPS). Also Mind Wrack and twitch to feed the group/raid mana, while not the most fun thing to do, is valuable. In the rare event that you're in a group fighting in an undead zone (both higher-level hotspots, Charasis and ChardokB, have undead in them), you can slow, mez, and charm a pet. Out of the 3 pet classes mentioned in this thread, necros are probably the least pet-dependant (pet is just extra DPS for soloing) and the most desirable for a raid (BSTs are probably more desirable for pickup groups for slows).
#19 Nov 17 2005 at 2:19 PM Rating: Good
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it's impossible to parse DoTs


huh?

can you not see the damage your DoT is doing? I seem to remember being able to see the damage when I play my necro. Is there something else I am missing?
#20 Nov 17 2005 at 2:47 PM Rating: Decent
well i decided im going to keep the mage, now im a lvl 55mage with about 300plat to my name anyone have any ideas where i can solo better plat then RM hill giants or the ice giants in perma? i don't mind farming items that i have to sell in baz i just want to get some plat so i can afford my lvl 55-60 spells.
#21 Nov 17 2005 at 2:48 PM Rating: Good
see the plat thread a few items down the page.
#22 Nov 17 2005 at 3:07 PM Rating: Decent
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Necros do a LOT outside of their pets. Example - they have some of the highest DPS sustained on raid mobs (if not THE highest, it's impossible to parse DoTs and necros are very tight-lipped about their DPS). Also Mind Wrack and twitch to feed the group/raid mana, while not the most fun thing to do, is valuable. In the rare event that you're in a group fighting in an undead zone (both higher-level hotspots, Charasis and ChardokB, have undead in them), you can slow, mez, and charm a pet. Out of the 3 pet classes mentioned in this thread, necros are probably the least pet-dependant (pet is just extra DPS for soloing) and the most desirable for a raid (BSTs are probably more desirable for pickup groups for slows).



necros do make good mana factories you are right there. but this guy is tossing up a mage he already has to rolling a new beastlord. necro DPS never even came into his original post. Mages can solo just as well as wizzies/necros/shammies based on skill of use. If you can't use the char then it's likely you'll fail anyhow. Beastlords are cool since they can get in on the action and cast really useful spells at the same time. But he already has a mage at 55 and according to one of his previous posts only has 300 plat so rolling a new char is going to be tough. Now with KEI and buffs mages will have very little down time since they are an everlasting source bandages plus they can heal their pets. Mages can solo just fine i have quite a few guildies that do it with mages all the time. Since he has the mage already stick with it till 60's and sell pet toys that way you'll have lots of cash flow then roll the beastlord
#23 Nov 17 2005 at 6:54 PM Rating: Decent
Ya necros can parse themselves they just dont like sharing it(it makes them seem mysterious >_>)

THe only thing I have never liked about mages is the lack of a spell root which can be well...not fun if your pet gets trampled =p

i'd go with a beastlord.


#24 Nov 17 2005 at 11:08 PM Rating: Decent
Here are my 2cp if you are still asking for opinions.

A beastlord is a better soloer then a mage. But not by a wide margin. The primary difference between the 2 is that a beastlord can easily handle adds once slow has landed and mages have abit of difficulty in htis.

On the positive note for mages they will progress abit easier then a beast and are not gear dependent. Once they have there spells they are good to go. With a beastlord things like hp,ac, weapons etc come into play.

Realy this comes down to do you want to play a caster or a melee. I have always like the melee classes because of the dramatic difference aa and gear makes. It makes the progression seem more fun, but then again that is my opinion and yours is the one that counts.

#25 Nov 18 2005 at 2:24 PM Rating: Decent
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Professor galthran wrote:

necros do make good mana factories you are right there. but this guy is tossing up a mage he already has to rolling a new beastlord. necro DPS never even came into his original post. Mages can solo just as well as wizzies/necros/shammies based on skill of use. If you can't use the char then it's likely you'll fail anyhow. Beastlords are cool since they can get in on the action and cast really useful spells at the same time. But he already has a mage at 55 and according to one of his previous posts only has 300 plat so rolling a new char is going to be tough. Now with KEI and buffs mages will have very little down time since they are an everlasting source bandages plus they can heal their pets. Mages can solo just fine i have quite a few guildies that do it with mages all the time. Since he has the mage already stick with it till 60's and sell pet toys that way you'll have lots of cash flow then roll the beastlord


Well, the only reason I brought it up is because in his reply that I quoted he referred to necros as a 'pet class that can also cast spells' or something to that effect, I wanted to clear up any misconceptions that might lead him to discounting a necro. I would stick with the already-levelled mage myself.
#26 Nov 22 2005 at 1:28 AM Rating: Decent
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Mage can chain pet better,beastlords blech if only they had had beast forms instead of pets.The biggest advantage over mages is slow and their tougher.
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