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#27 Nov 14 2005 at 12:48 PM Rating: Decent
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Dothammer wrote:
I am starting to solo my enchanter more and more...and everyone knows, enchanters are great at parties, why the dog-balloons alone are worth it...


You know.. I know I can solo to my heart's content. And kill fast. People that have never seen are always shocked. I remember during some Tipt trials when we had little wipe-ettes, I would kite the non summoners to keep the area clear and the "leader" was "um.. they die so fast."

But at 65, I had my Enchanter mentor play Cachet a night in Halls of Honor to show me charm soloing. I played Felicite and just watched. And I have never seen anyone mow down so much so fast. I believe that at 65 in non "charm nerf"ed zones, Enchanters are the best (ableit high risk and taking high concentration) soloers in the game.

Sadly I will always be a Necromancer first, Enchanter second. I use Charm for crowd control, mostly. But I remember the envy. Solo away!
#28 Nov 16 2005 at 2:47 AM Rating: Decent
i tend to disagree about chanters being the best at charm soloing.im not knoking um but bards do alot better.its true u can charm kite with a chanter but from what i seen u can get tripped up easy(ex.sow runs out/u get hit and need to regen).also bards can run and cast.now i've spoken to many ppl about this but i think casters everywhere would sac a toon back to 20 if they were given the opportunity to cast and run at the same time.even tho a bards hp/ac sux compared to other plate classes its still better than a chanters so u can afford to kite a mob that summons(its hard but totally doable).there is also the fact that chanters need mana for charms/nukes so the down time would be considerable.bards also use mana for charms but at 65 manas hardly an issue with a well equiped bard not to mention no manas used for dots.maybe chanters charms are more likely to land but a bard wont catch a beating if its resisted cuz hes runnin like a rabbit on coke.again not noking chanters just saying bards can do it more efficiently.
#29 Nov 16 2005 at 2:50 AM Rating: Decent
Grammar>you

No disrespect intended, but please for old eyes, retype that......my eyes hurt =/
#30 Nov 16 2005 at 3:01 AM Rating: Default
Grammar dot dot dot ok i can do this dot dot dot ok dot dot dot Bards>all dot dot dot yes that sums up what I said period Happy face with tounge sticking out

Edited, Wed Nov 16 03:12:37 2005 by Dioren
#31 Nov 16 2005 at 3:06 AM Rating: Decent
Sorry Shamans>bards....dot dot dot y halo thar tird grad grammEr!!!
#32 Nov 16 2005 at 1:19 PM Rating: Decent
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Um.. ok. Just saying, hasted Valorian Guard versus slowed Valorian Guard is over really fast.

YMMV, play what you like. I do.
#33 Nov 16 2005 at 1:43 PM Rating: Decent
If you not gonna twink and get pl'd to 70th, then i'd not worry about solo'ing. You will need to find a regular group of friends with whom to group. Plus, name recognition(sp) is paramount imo to having fun and leveling.

As far as end game solo'ing, nothing can touch a necro, nothing. I solo in mpg and the nest task. Hell the GoD model named in mpg doesn't summon. The nest is just a matter of snare, DN, Curse and DP. Our pet averages around 85dps from behind. Averaging around 300 base dps from three dots takes down mobs quickly. Add our dps and MW to a group situation will get you groups. Also fd and res to keep a group or mission going is nice. Feeling bored, solo a creator task or whatever else you feel up too. Also necro has sick mana regen, can heal yourself, fd etc.

It all boils down to what you want to play. Pure solo'ing, go with necro. Want easy group invites, cleric or shammy.

Just my 2 cents.

abby






#34 Nov 16 2005 at 6:41 PM Rating: Decent
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elorianBLAH wrote:
Shamans>all


Everytime elorian posts "Shamans>all" - somewhere in my twisted personal paradigm, an angel gets it's wings.

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Rate up for you for making me Smiley: grin.

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Oh yeah, to the OP, Shamans are Smiley: king.

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#35 Nov 16 2005 at 7:38 PM Rating: Decent
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Just my 2 cents.

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#36 Nov 18 2005 at 10:04 PM Rating: Decent
There is no way any one at all can compare a shammy to bards in soloing.Yes at 70 they own bones and take names.Yes they are sought after in groups becouse of their wide range of spells.No you can't solo a shammy from 1 to 70 unless hes a) hi end players twinky or b)the person buys a significant amount of plat to maintain the upkeep/upgrades he/she will need.Even with all the l337 gear u have and have a nice amount of hps shammys still use mana wich equals downtime.Canni only takes u so far.I am not saying they arent gud(for the gramma trolls tee hee)im just saying a shammy soloing from 1 to 70 from scratch probably has never happened.(i know whats coming later*but o mise gawd no bards haaves neva duns dats*go check eqdiva its been done to death,case in my point my own bard).wonder why ppl waste time on posting about grammar if u can understand whats being said must be a lemme be funny and add nothing to the convo net things,y halo thar thurd graid humr*boggles*
ps from scratch means reading up on your toon and then jumping into a game and no offense to elorian*bows*

Edited, Fri Nov 18 22:05:30 2005 by Dioren
#37 Nov 19 2005 at 1:55 AM Rating: Decent
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There is no way any one at all can compare a shammy to bards in soloing.Yes at 70 they own bones and take names.Yes they are sought after in groups becouse of their wide range of spells.No you can't solo a shammy from 1 to 70 unless hes a) hi end players twinky or b)the person buys a significant amount of plat to maintain the upkeep/upgrades he/she will need.Even with all the l337 gear u have and have a nice amount of hps shammys still use mana wich equals downtime.Canni only takes u so far.I am not saying they arent gud(for the grammaR trolls tee hee)im just saying a shammy soloing from 1 to 70 from scratch probably has never happened.(i know whats coming later*but o mise gawd no bards haaves neva duns dats*go check eqdiva its been done to death,case in my point my own bard). and no offense to elorian*bows*


First of all thank you for the bow =) /takes hat off in responce =p

Alright first of all yes a shammy can easily solo to 70(if a SK bst necro or bard can....then a shammy can) and without uber1337OMFGWALLHAXAIMBOTWTF gear.......all a shaman needs is slow and HoTs....The rest is cake......and I'd bet old lefty that a shaman has soloed from 1 to 70(hell I had a friend solo a SK from 1 to 70 just b/c someone said he couldn't do it....=p)

Canni is crazy good(especially once you get the decent HoTs...hell some are even made for canni)....

Also downtime =/= not being able to solo for EXP(hell my wizzy quaded the hell out of anywhere than can be quaded....and needed hella down time...doesn't mean that i didn't get EXP for it..and not bad EXP at that(not saying i can come close to a necro but meh....)) It just means a bit slower

I never said a shaman vs a bard soloing would get to 70 faster....hell no not even close.......(speaking of which since when does fastest EXP soloer=the best soloer...there are so many more aspects of soloing to take into account)

By the best soloer I mean someone who can solo for EXP, solo summoning mobs, solo hard hitting(for the respective level) named mobs, and be able to handle adds...................

Now you may say "... a bard can do all of those" and I'd say "yes they can" but not as easily as a shaman(slow+pet+HoT+Dots makes all the differnce in the world....ya a bard can charm mobs but healing can be a problem....)






#38 Nov 19 2005 at 2:05 AM Rating: Decent
Actually if you have the coin with the tons of different potions available to you no reason you cant solo any character to 70, sure some are still gonna suck at it and take a while to get there like havin to kill lt blues at zonelines and such but ya it can be done.
#39 Nov 19 2005 at 3:08 AM Rating: Decent
coin or no coin a shaman could easily solo from 1 to 70.......saying that he couldn't is just dumb............I mean hell any of the pet classes(Mages, bst, necros, shaman, SKs) can solo to 70(SKs are the hardest =p...i just added them b/c I know of one who did =p))

All a shaman needs is his pet, slow, HoTs, and DoTs and BAM there you go.........if he has good gear then all he needs is a good procing weapon, slow, his pet(s...depending on AAs) HoT, DoTs..........and oh ya that GOD like spell slow and he is crazy badass....were talking piratewizards here........
#40 Nov 19 2005 at 3:33 AM Rating: Decent
ya ur right(***** gramma*no rer*)*sigh* before any1 says it PWNED elo>dio ya ya*chuckles at his own communication skills*
i still rock socks and own bones!!!!!i think......
#41 Nov 19 2005 at 3:49 AM Rating: Decent
hey I have no problem with grammar.......or bastardizing it.......as long as you use an ar in grammar =p insted of "grammer"

=p


#42 Nov 19 2005 at 4:59 PM Rating: Decent
Really Elorian this subject comes up a lot we get it you think everyone but a shaman sucks...

I recomend just saying shaman and maybe linking one of the other threads you have gone off the deep end about this on.
#43 Nov 20 2005 at 3:21 AM Rating: Decent
hrmmmmmmmmm

ok honest me: had 56 shammy 3 yrs ago.

EQ has changed a lot but your are all still wrong .

At 50 let alone 56 shammies let alone any class can't solo for SHIAATT - summoning mobs++ UBER MUTHAF@!$#%## hitting mobs=death to all but twinks.

exceptio nmaybe necros, or mages i have seen soloing planes because they know how pet can keep aggro and if sh#@ goes wrong they doent lose 1 hr of exp over it they just gate
#44 Nov 20 2005 at 3:40 AM Rating: Decent
erm yoyobah.....stop posting......it's for your own good.





and as for the shamans rule everyone else sucks..................erm my main is a Wizard.........
My whole Shaman trip thingy is from what I've seen friends do with shamans and what not(mostly my bro and a few guildy friends......)

I don't think other classes suck...........TBH I group wise I would much rather see a bard in my group than a shaman........bards make my nukes sexy =p.........It's just that I've seen some shamans do some crazy ****......hell there isn't a single class that I dislike(except for maybe a mage and that's for raid reasons...........).........I love them all and hell they are all good
#45 Nov 20 2005 at 4:59 AM Rating: Decent
Heh I love mages for raid reasons... I am way too lazy to feel like running thru KT for example to set up for Uqua.

Hell pretty much anyplace I have to run by some pita see invis mob that they can get a mage into and CoTH works I flat out will kiss their lil butts.

I disagree that shamans are the end all but it seems pretty obvious that wizard main or not you feel they are and thats ok to each his own if we all played shamans it would suck if nothing else when we needed a rez =P.
#46 Nov 21 2005 at 4:26 AM Rating: Decent
--petition-- DEAREST SOE, please give bards a rez song. The end

ps. Please make it self only so bards can brag. thank you
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