Your opinion on my thoughts on characters deathsFollow

EDIT: since its obviously more interesting for regular posters to tell me their opinion on my opinion instead of their opinion on the subject I decided to rephrase the threads title for convenience :)

Being a Cleric, I feel your pain.

1) I hate being naked in PoK. After all, if you die. Everyone else probably died too. Which doesn't necessarily mean you're at fault and hence should not be embarrassed.
2) Priorities. Deaths will happen. I actually keep track of my weekly death toll. Usually somewhere between 2-7 in 7 days (other PC's, not myself) is what I aim for. You're only in control of who lives or dies if the PC in reference has no reason to be getting hit on. MT's, high nukers, and chanty's, are a dangerous class to play. As well as a Cleric. Do your best to keep what is absolutely essential to the group alive and you should walk away knowing that there was nothing else that could have been done.
3) If I die soloing, I laugh. Because I always take some monstrous target on. Point in case, Cleric GM in East Commonlands. More of a "gee I wonder if I can land a root on her, one quick nuke, and run". ACCESS DENIED. Returning to home point.

Deaths do suck, especially on a Clerics mind. Hell, after all it's our job to prevent it. Unfortunately, it can't always be prevented. So don't hang your head when you're on a corpse run. Take that time while you're naked/lonely to think about what happened and how it can be prevented in the future.

Hope things are well, and you hold that streak :)

Lariatha Imperlisia
57th Cleric of Innoruuk
(1 personal death this week ~ raid oriented)
(4 PC in group deaths /shrug, wizards shouldn't melee)

IMHO if you get upset at dying now, maybe ya need to re think it a bit. Just wait til you get to the higher lvl zones. You WILL DIE. A LOT. Especially when exploring zones you've never been to before. Oops that mob sees invis. Ded. I personally think its part of the fun of the game. As was mentioned before, pushing the envelope and seeing just what your group might can accomplish. Ya never know til ya try. If I don't die at least once a day, I can't sleep at night.

Deathwysh, I was having the same problem with those damn lag spikes. They were coming in regular waves like every 3 minutes. I solved the problem by defragging my C-drive.

The lag spikes stopped immediatedly.

Funny enough rephrasing the question brought the kind of answers I was asking for in the first place ;-)

I admit that while I played a Rogue on FV last year I died a lot (backstabbing makes the mob really hate you)and neither did I bother that much nor did I feel responsible on a single comrades death but having the complete group wiped out made me think about my perfomance.

I didn't blame the clerics either on my own deaths and even dying while soloing in OoM didn't give me a headache as Rogues are not the soloing class *lol*

But now that I have a 22nd cleric with the ability to heal and a pile of other spells too I feel I have to perform better.

And I feel of course responsible for every group member thats killed (other by their own foolishness) which I think I should be. After all a tank can only do his job properly once he's 100% sure he doesn't need to check his own health bar because the healers either keep him alive or shout for an evac if they think they cant.



Edited, Fri Mar 12 10:06:46 2004 by Leiany

Right, there's not a thing wrong with asking, "Okay, what happened there?" But it shouldn't be an accusation; it's an opportunity to get better as a player.

Besides, it's good to practice CR. You'll be doing enough of it.

Cracks me up that you only get the answers you want when you ask a different question but here goes my 2cp worth.

On your opinions - I agree. It would be nice to totally role play with others who are totally role playing and so care as much as you do.

On dieing - Bum I hate it. But then I'm only 9th level so all it means to me really is the pride issue and the agro of having a long walk to carry on where I left off. I'm still a little embarrased about the number of times I've died by letting the 10% health mob reach help before I finish him. Then I get run over by the train. Double bum.

But then like I say, I'm only level 9 so what do I know.

X

PS - I'm terrified of reaching level 10.

Not at level 10 they didn't. Experience loss starts at level 11.

Apart from that a dummy-run CR is not a bad idea. In fact even at any level before this going back and looting your empty corpse is a good idea. It gets you used to trying to die in identifiable places. The fear of losing your corpse is much the worst part of the CR and this test-run won't prepare you for that.

Funny the higher i have got the les often i die, that maybe because i group with the same people alot and we are a fairly well tuned group. I take your point though the higher mobs are less forgiving of mistakes and you do die faster.



Thats a hard one to break if indeed you can or want to for that matter. I still take it personally when one of my group dies with my cleric, On the plus side as you level you get better and better rez's to buffer the pain.



Don't worry buddy you have a 59 Pally on Tap and that means 90% Rez as soon as i get to you

I never thought of that - is it also possible to drag ones corpse at lvl 1-9? If so I should have tried getting my clerics corpse out of the water just to practice /corpse as I died in the FP harbor at 6 or 7.

And sorry bout the mistake with the XP loss! But in that case lvl 10 is perfect for suicide - IF someone is really already under stress by the thought of his first CR.

Edited, Fri Mar 12 13:29:52 2004 by Leiany

dual wield - post

Edited, Fri Mar 12 13:39:00 2004 by Leiany

Liany, I think your opinions on death are probably pretty typical of clerics...possibly part of the personality that makes someone choose to play a cleric in the first place. =) It's good to have a cleric that cares..you're one of the kinds of clerics that will never get a group killed with a ninja AFK or other lack of attention to what's going on.

I play a warrior, and my opinions character death are a little different.
If the cleric or slower dies, I blame myself. Obviously I didn't have enough aggro. Even if the 'chanter tries to land a slow the second I engage, and I logically know that as a warrior I couldn't hold aggro on that, I still blame myself.
If any other people in the group die, I blame myself for a moment, then try to remember that aggro management is everyone's business, not just the tank.
If I die, I swear as I see the "laoding, please wait"...laugh when I land naked at my bind spot...and joke around with guildies about the naked dorf in PoK until I get rezzed. For a tank, dying is part of the job, and I just hope everyone else made it.
Now, if the deaths happen because of a train, there's really not much we could do about that. If we die because of an add and we have no crowd control, well, hopefully we learned something about which way we need to push the mob during a fight. If we die because the cheal landed a half-second too late, or because the cleric had one of those rare fizzles....it's part of the game. It happens. Practice will make it happen less, but it will still happen.

The strength and abilities of the mobs vs. my AC/HP changes drastically the higher I level.

I'm just a cloth wearing finger wiggler. It only takes a few hits to pummel me to jelly these days. That's one of the reasons I die more often. I also soloed pretty much exclusively for my first 50 levels so I'd usually stick to killing what I knew I'd survive. Now I almost exclusively group so hunting is a whole different ball game. Bigger mobs, bigger risks and a whole lot more factors in the equation.

It's all good though. I'm still having tons o' fun.