I'm a first time player to the game. some how i've managed to get my ranger up to level 19 in about 2 weeks of playing. the problem is i don't really have a clue what i'm doing. all i've done is join a few groups to level up.
Have recently discovered that spiderling silks can make a small profit off anything up to 5pp i've managed to sell them for each.
Apart from that i don't have a clue what i'm doing.
Are my skills any good? What ones whould i try to increase
1H Blunt awful 0
1H Slashing Excellent 96
2H Bunt awful 0
2H slashing awful 0
abjuration bad 34
Alcohol T awful 0
Alteration excellent 97
Archery awful 0
baking awful 0
begging awful 0
bind wound awful 0
blacksmithing awful 0
brewing awful 0
channeling excellent 98
common tongue master 100
conjuration feeble 13
defence excellent 94
divination below avg 44
dual wirld average 54
evocation excellent 96
fishing awful 1
fletching awful 1
forage feeble 18
hand to hand awful 0
jewelry maing awful 0
meditate excellent 95
offence excellent 91
piercing awful 0
pottery awful 0
sense heading master 200
swimming awful 10
tailoring awful 5
taunt awful 0
throwing awful 0
tracking very good 87
A little help would be very kind
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I am level 65 and there are many times I don't know what I am doing 
You seem to be doing fine, you know to join groups to get exp. That is the game really.
The skill that is lacking that you most want to worry about is Archery. Archery is what rangers do at higher levels, and with some practise you can solo well with archery. May also be worth your while learning fletching to keep yourself in arrows at lower levels.
It is probably worth your while to pick up some cheap weapons other than 1HS, as all of your other weapon skills are zero.
You seem to be doing fine, you know to join groups to get exp. That is the game really.
The skill that is lacking that you most want to worry about is Archery. Archery is what rangers do at higher levels, and with some practise you can solo well with archery. May also be worth your while learning fletching to keep yourself in arrows at lower levels.
It is probably worth your while to pick up some cheap weapons other than 1HS, as all of your other weapon skills are zero.
Patrician wrote:
You seem to be doing fine, you know to join groups to get exp. That is the game really.
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...and I thought having fun, getting excited and trying to see something new every day is the game really.....silly litle me
Well sure, however your ability to see something new everyday is going to be very limited if you stay at level 1 now isn't it?
Set your forage onto a movement button. Forage is a potentially valuable skill which you will definitely need when you get around to your epic. In the meantime there are many useful and saleable things you can forage.
I neglected it and it took a long time to pick up my epic forages.
If you're not sure how to do this then open your options menu with Alt+O then choose the Keyboard page and in the droipdown pick Macros. Pick a number you are not currently using a lot and where that number shows it will have two entries one with a number the other with "----" click on one of these and hit your left arrow key. Now every time you turn left you will activate the macro on that hotkey. You can do it for the right key on the "----" space as well if you want although for a slow refresh like forage this isn't needed. You might put another skill there.
Now put a forage button in the hotkey pad position corresponding to the number you chose.
You may wish to have this done on a hotkey page for travelling and have that space blank on your combat page or turn it off during combat as you do not want "roots" on your cursor in the middle of a fight.
Other than that have a read of the thread marked "grouping tips" or something similar.
I neglected it and it took a long time to pick up my epic forages.
If you're not sure how to do this then open your options menu with Alt+O then choose the Keyboard page and in the droipdown pick Macros. Pick a number you are not currently using a lot and where that number shows it will have two entries one with a number the other with "----" click on one of these and hit your left arrow key. Now every time you turn left you will activate the macro on that hotkey. You can do it for the right key on the "----" space as well if you want although for a slow refresh like forage this isn't needed. You might put another skill there.
Now put a forage button in the hotkey pad position corresponding to the number you chose.
You may wish to have this done on a hotkey page for travelling and have that space blank on your combat page or turn it off during combat as you do not want "roots" on your cursor in the middle of a fight.
Other than that have a read of the thread marked "grouping tips" or something similar.
Wherever I go - there I am.
Patrician wrote:
Well sure, however your ability to see something new everyday is going to be very limited if you stay at level 1 now isn't it?
Is there anything *wrong* in getting XP the slow way (in doing even the small quests for example)and really EXPLORE Norrath?
Have you personally ever made a trip between continents by ship although you could travel by Magus or PoP?
Have you ever stopped at a friendly looking harbor in between to hail the people there because you where curious what they had to say or which quests to offer?
Have you ever dived down while swimming from A to B just to have a look how deep the water goes?
Have you ever taken the time along your way to fish in some spot you haven't done before out of curiosity what you might catch?
Have you ever visited the Kings Castle in Kaladim knowing that not a single vendor nor attractive quest-giver is located there?
If not then please dont tell ME about seeing something new every day - If you want to enjoy Norrath and not just bridge that annoying gap between lvl 1 and 65 (where the REAL game begins I've been told several times)you have to SPEND some time to explore it and not just hit run to reach A and then gate back to B once you got what you wanted ;-)
Edited, Fri Feb 27 07:21:46 2004 by Leiany
I made 2 social makros for foraging yesterday that went like that:
/doability 3 (in my case, take the number where you have your foraging located)
/autoinventory
then I linked one each to left arrow and right arrow so everytime I forage somthing the stuff gets into my backpacks - but I got the idea from this board of course :))
/doability 3 (in my case, take the number where you have your foraging located)
/autoinventory
then I linked one each to left arrow and right arrow so everytime I forage somthing the stuff gets into my backpacks - but I got the idea from this board of course :))
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Is there anything *wrong* in getting XP the slow way (in doing even the small quests for example)and really EXPLORE Norrath?
Please quote where I said there was anything wrong with getting exp the slow way.
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Have you personally ever made a trip between continents by ship although you could travel by Magus or PoP?
Yes. In fact when I started playing this was the only way available for travel
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Have you ever stopped at a friendly looking harbor in between to hail the people there because you where curious what they had to say or which quests to offer?
Yes.
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Have you ever dived down while swimming from A to B just to have a look how deep the water goes?
Yes.
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Have you ever taken the time along your way to fish in some spot you haven't done before out of curiosity what you might catch?
No, I don't dig fishing
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Have you ever visited the Kings Castle in Kaladim knowing that not a single vendor nor attractive quest-giver is located there?
No, but I am quite sure I have seen more of the Everquest world than you in the 4 years I have been playing. I quite often go for a ride on my Holy Steed just for fun and to see new places.
Have you crept alone through the dungeon of Lower Guk? Have you explored Old Sebilis with some friends? Have you swum with the mermaids through the beautiful underwater city of Kedge Keep? Have you run around with the beatiful unicorns in the Plane of Growth? Have you visited the awe inspiring Temple of Veeshan, home of the dragons? Have you explored the beautiful zone of Vex Thal? Have you seen the mighty giants of the Bastion of Thunder? Have you explored Drunder the realm of Rallos Zek the Warlord. Have you seen a God?
I can go on and on. And yet there is so much more I still want to see.
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If not then please dont tell ME about seeing something new every day - If you want to enjoy Norrath and not just bridge that annoying gap between lvl 1 and 65 (where the REAL game begins I've been told several times)you have to SPEND some time to explore it and not just hit run to reach A and then gate back to B once you got what you wanted ;-)
Why are you ranting? I have said nothing about doing any of this. However it is a fact that your level dictates what new things you are capable of seeing in Everquest. To suggest otherwise would make you stupid.
Patrician wrote:
However it is a fact that your level dictates what new things you are capable of seeing in Everquest. To suggest otherwise would make you stupid.
Lets say I raise my level by trying every single camp spot in Zone X once and this takes me a whole gaming session to raise 3 lvls (including the tradeskilling which I always do)
Someone else is camping the one with the best xp-ratio for 5 respawns consecutively and this only takes him 2 hours. Then taking the good advice from honest-meaning players like you (no satire) he moves to zone Y to camp the best spot there or (hunt the best xp/moneygiving mob) for another hour....
So I raise 3 lvls in zone X and then move (next gaming session)on to zone Y to see whats going on and check the camps....while someone else has raised 10+ lvls in the same time....
...you think *someone* will ever get back to zone X (or Y or whatever Zone) where he just cleared this one camp to take a look whats else there?
The more you try to max your advance the less you see of the world because you are only looking for efficiency!
And if comparison is all you want... Once I have played the game 4 years we will both look back and see who has seen more of the EQ world and I bet your toons still have been mostly to spots that *offer* something while one single toon of mine will have raised, fought, tradeskilled and maybe even died in every single zone of the game--->
---->Except for the high end zones cause they sound already like a lot of stress instead of fun (fun in the innocent sense not in the "ARRGGHH - WE FINALLY KILLED THAT ************* SCUM THAT KILLED EVERYONE OF US FOR 5 DAYS NOW CONSECUTIVELY!!!!!" - sense)
But if I don't intend to ever play the planes maybe I'm not even legitimated to state I play EQ ;-)
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You just don't get it, do you?
Actually I think it is you who "just don't get it", Leiany.
There is nothing at all wrong with your "smell the roses" approach. But you are trying to push it down peoples throats just as much as the power-gamers are saying "level,level,level". Many people want to play to level quickly. You may think they are wrong but it is their right to do so.
You are not the authority on "how the game should be played". You are a new player who has had some truly horrendous misconceptions and now think you are some kind of authority on EQ.
You seem to think you have some kind of holy monopoly on "Real EQ". There are many, many people who are quite capable of both levelling and sightseeing. The two are not mutually exclusive.
EQ is - for me - full of wonderful sights but they are, exactly as Patrician said, level-related. Do you enjoy the waterfall in EK more when you die 4 times getting to see it or when you can walk safely there and admire it? I can and do visit old world zones. There are not that many I haven't at least been through. Strangely though getting killed in them is not my first priority. Although I did do a naked gnome race from Ak'Anon to Qeynos the other day using boats. You should try getting a level 1 gnome through those zones. It would broaden your experience
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Once I have played the game 4 years we will both look back and see who has seen more of the EQ world and I bet your toons still have been mostly to spots that *offer* something while one single toon of mine will have raised, fought, tradeskilled and maybe even died in every single zone of the game--->
Unlikely since your attitude blocks you from at least half of them. Like it or not the game is increasingly designed for higher level players. Velius was 30+, PoP was 46+, the new expansion is 50+.
Don't get in a silly argument with Patrician. He is a good helpful player who has indeed been to many and varied places. You are arguing against things that nobody has said.
Wherever I go - there I am.
reading the posts I just picture I sit in a meeting with marketing folks 
in my opinion, there is no dedicated way of playing EQ. everybody, as he likes.
well, I am lucky, can go home now, switch on my PC, start up EQ and then... hehe, my GF is skiing, have the WE for myself.
you all have a good one too, GLuck :)
in my opinion, there is no dedicated way of playing EQ. everybody, as he likes.
well, I am lucky, can go home now, switch on my PC, start up EQ and then... hehe, my GF is skiing, have the WE for myself.
you all have a good one too, GLuck :)
Still a noob. :-P
Characters on Drinal, Povar, EMarr, Firiona Vie.
Characters on Drinal, Povar, EMarr, Firiona Vie.
Ok so here we arguing on a post where a newbie asked for skill and lvl help. Bleh, we older more experianced people are way to caught up in the game. Anyways, though I have never played a ranger, I know that in LDoN they are good pullers as long as they know how to play their toon. That's the most important thing for you to do right now is learn you class the best you can.
At lvl 19 I'd head to PC. Yes, a place that offers something. In PC it's just like PLing you character. When you hit 25 head to HKK and stay there till 35. At 35 do Adv's. The lower lvls arn't as important as higher lvls are becuase that's when you are able to start doing your main role in a group. And yes, for a Ranger Archery is a must.
Now about the whole seeing the zones as to just plain lvling. I'll state one thing. If you explore to much, then you will fall behind you generation wave. A generation wave is like rhe people who made char's at a certain time. It's like being born in the 80's. You grow up with those people born in that age. The same applies with EQ. If you start to fall behind in lvls all the people you know and grp with will no longer be able to group with you because you'll be to low. It's hard to keep up at times, but don't explore much till lvl 35ish. Around that time, the exp gets a bit harder and people lvl slower so you have time every once in while to visit some far off place where no one goes. My only goal as a Druid is to see every single zone in Norrath, and be able to guide people in that zone. As a Ranger, you should have a goal similar to this.
Also, make sure you max out your tracking, because it comes in handy. Your spell casting is not that important, because all the spells you get a Druid got at an earlier lvl. You will never be a caster. Ranger's are good fighters, but will never be a good caster because Druids are around. Just lvl to the mid range lvl quickly and then start making friends that you can group with. A guild is nice to have, but it depends on the server you're on. My server, Elorisis Marr, is more of a Raid guild server. At your lvl you want a social guild with a lot of members. Once you have a guild, you'll be more apt to get free stuff from friendly guild members. I hope I helped some.
Edited, Fri Feb 27 12:20:56 2004 by Joeylly
Edited, Fri Feb 27 12:22:57 2004 by Joeylly
At lvl 19 I'd head to PC. Yes, a place that offers something. In PC it's just like PLing you character. When you hit 25 head to HKK and stay there till 35. At 35 do Adv's. The lower lvls arn't as important as higher lvls are becuase that's when you are able to start doing your main role in a group. And yes, for a Ranger Archery is a must.
Now about the whole seeing the zones as to just plain lvling. I'll state one thing. If you explore to much, then you will fall behind you generation wave. A generation wave is like rhe people who made char's at a certain time. It's like being born in the 80's. You grow up with those people born in that age. The same applies with EQ. If you start to fall behind in lvls all the people you know and grp with will no longer be able to group with you because you'll be to low. It's hard to keep up at times, but don't explore much till lvl 35ish. Around that time, the exp gets a bit harder and people lvl slower so you have time every once in while to visit some far off place where no one goes. My only goal as a Druid is to see every single zone in Norrath, and be able to guide people in that zone. As a Ranger, you should have a goal similar to this.
Also, make sure you max out your tracking, because it comes in handy. Your spell casting is not that important, because all the spells you get a Druid got at an earlier lvl. You will never be a caster. Ranger's are good fighters, but will never be a good caster because Druids are around. Just lvl to the mid range lvl quickly and then start making friends that you can group with. A guild is nice to have, but it depends on the server you're on. My server, Elorisis Marr, is more of a Raid guild server. At your lvl you want a social guild with a lot of members. Once you have a guild, you'll be more apt to get free stuff from friendly guild members. I hope I helped some.
Edited, Fri Feb 27 12:20:56 2004 by Joeylly
Edited, Fri Feb 27 12:22:57 2004 by Joeylly
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Anyways, though I have never played a ranger
AND IT SHOWS
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Your spell casting is not that important, because all the spells you get a Druid got at an earlier lvl. You will never be a caster. Ranger's are good fighters, but will never be a good caster because Druids are around.
Sorry but this is poor advice. Rangers need all their spell skills maxed except perhaps Conjuration. In that one area there is an argument that there is little point in them using their dots. Although they do later on get Conj spells that are more useful.
Crucial ranger spell skill - Alteration.
Snare is Alt and the last thing you ever want to here is
fizzle
fizzle
fizzle
"it's running"
"here comes the train"
Jolt is also Alt. That doesn't want to fizzle either.
Crucial ranger spell skill - Abjuration
Perhaps less rucial but they have many good self buffs and group buffs which stack with druid buffs. Apart from shaman they probably have the best ATK buffs.
Crucial ranger spell skill - Evocation
The wonderful Flame lick and it's big brothers are evoc. One of the fastest ways to take aggro off a silk-wearing nitwit even while they dance round the room.
Crucial ranger spell skill - Divination
Camo, Sup. Camo, See Invis all spells you can need and all ones you don't want fizzling. Re-invising someone when it drops needs to be done fast.
Rangers share many spells with druids but they are not druids and their own spells are useful enough not to neglect them.
Tracking the OP is already pretty good at but the advice to keep it maxed is good
As far as the "Generation Wave" thing personally I don't think it matters. Unless they are RL friends then you can let them go. Another batch are coming along all the time. You can always link up with them.
Wherever I go - there I am.
Borem - If you keep striving away with your Ranger and trawling these forums you look like you'll do just fine 
Regarding the forums - my tip is to ignore the flames - when a message starts off by slagging off a previous poster:
a) It will rarely add any constructive advice
b) It will rarely make sense
c) you'll get bored pretty damn quick!
d) so skip it
Oh, and don't fall into the trap of automatically ignoring Leiany - Yes most of her posts are mindless drivel, but a proportion are insightful, witty, extremely hepful and have helped my game. I love her with a twisted heart! (Kisses at you Leiany!)
Oh. . . and when Patrician or Kaolian speaks. . . Shhh. Listen.
Regarding the forums - my tip is to ignore the flames - when a message starts off by slagging off a previous poster:
a) It will rarely add any constructive advice
b) It will rarely make sense
c) you'll get bored pretty damn quick!
d) so skip it
Oh, and don't fall into the trap of automatically ignoring Leiany - Yes most of her posts are mindless drivel, but a proportion are insightful, witty, extremely hepful and have helped my game. I love her with a twisted heart! (Kisses at you Leiany!)
Oh. . . and when Patrician or Kaolian speaks. . . Shhh. Listen.
"I started out with nothin' and I still got most of it left" - Seasick Steve
nobby wrote:
Oh. . . and when Patrician or Kaolian speaks. . . Shhh. Listen
I beg to differ, Patrician may or may not know what he's talking about .. but he is such an arrogant bastage, that I for one would be hard put to trust whatever advice he gave, especially given his history of playing Mr nice or Mr nasty just to test his ratings
Kao, well 100pct pure solid gold - no messing
As for you Nobby your posts are always a pleasure and I, for one, always stop and read... and leave with a smile :)
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Patrician may or may not know what he's talking about .. but he is such an arrogant bastage,
*blows a kiss to his fans*
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Kao, well 100pct pure solid gold - no messing
Oh yeah? Kaolian, one of the only people to be officially warned by Allakhazam along with Thundra and various random trolls? That Kaolian? Ask him about it
Edited, Sat Feb 28 06:55:14 2004 by Patrician
../bow
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Nobby wrote:
Leiany - Yes most of her posts are mindless drivel, but a proportion are insightful, witty, extremely helpful and have helped my game.
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