Hollowshade Moor  

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Continent: Luclin
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Level Range: 10 - 45
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Located on the dark side of the moon, Hollowshade Moor is in a constant state of darkness and is the site of an ongoing struggle between owlbears, sonic wolves, and grimlings; each trying to retain control over the land. It is also the site of one of Luclin's best views of Norrath.
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Maybe the Best View of NorrathThe City of Shar Vahl Looms in the DistanceOutside the Entrance to the Paludal CavernsHollowshade Moor
Over the RiverGuarding Shar VahlOwlbearsPath to Grimling Forest
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Vah Shir outpost
# Jun 21 2008 at 3:32 PM Rating: Decent
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I am supposed to report to Rittuh which is found in the Vah Shir outpost in Hollowshade Moor for my Beastlord Claw quest... however when going there, the outpost is over run with Grimmlings and has been all day. Is this a new thing?
Vah Shir outpost
# Jul 10 2008 at 8:05 PM Rating: Decent
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The zone resets when you kill the named guy in the fort as explained in the Hollowshade War quest. I usually have to wait until the server reset on the patch day because noone ever resets the zone.
This is a great zone
# Sep 28 2007 at 4:56 PM Rating: Decent
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I love this zone! I had quite a bit of thouble there with my level 20 alt, but if you are the right level-- around level 30-- it is an awesome place for loot and XP! I highly recommend it!!!
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But...
# Oct 15 2006 at 12:37 AM Rating: Decent
double post.. please delete.
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No Spawn from Wolves or Gimlings
# Apr 26 2006 at 2:45 AM Rating: Decent
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Well it looks like the zone is broken. Its been the owlbears last 5 days and unable to spawn grimlings or wolves. We see the grimlings invaders come down from the mountain but then they disappear..:(( no smithing..
Owlbears in trouble?
# Jan 24 2006 at 4:00 AM Rating: Decent
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When I went to Hollowshade Moor today I got this text on entering:

Frenzied howling fills the air, the sound taking on every aspect of an angry wail. The sonic wolves are mounting an offensive.

Their forces stretched thin due to occupying eastern and southern positions, the owlbear find themselves unable to muster a defense to stave off the imminent attack.


I have not seen the text before.
Owlbears in trouble?
# Jun 28 2007 at 8:40 AM Rating: Decent
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this just means the Owlbears occupy the East and SOuth Camps, while the Sonic WOlves are in (by process of elimination) the North camp, and attacking the South camp.. its all part of the Hollowshade wars.
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The Hollowshade War still works..
# Dec 15 2005 at 12:46 AM Rating: Decent
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As of 20 minutes ago. I'm letting my 41 Druid regen right now from spanking Scarflank to death 5 times today, but still nothing drops. -_- Man, what a kick. He's DB to me, and doubles for 60-70, 100 only once, and his bash almost never lands.

So few people camp them anymore it's amazing.
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Zone changed or?
# Sep 17 2005 at 4:32 AM Rating: Decent
I ran there today to farm substances, and found that south camp was crammed with grimlings i ran to kill the defenders and chieftain to try spawn others... No defenders! killed chieftain 2-3 times then ran to kill named sonicwolf and defenders... no defenders! hrm!?!?!? Then i noticed no zonewide emotes either. Is the war script bugged maybe? And btw... drop rate on the substances from sonicwolves was terrible too... got 1!!!! total in about 2 spawn cycles... Has it been nerfed????
RE: Zone changed or?
# Sep 21 2005 at 11:41 AM Rating: Decent
War Script was broke when they did all the post patch patching for Depths of Darkhollow.
I am hoping that while they missed it in the patch messages, that they indeed fixed it.
If not, please submit bug reports.

Fellow Tradeskillers UNITE!!! Bug Reports Please!!
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Fastest Way to Force the War
# Jan 28 2004 at 5:57 AM Rating: Good
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I've done the war solo a few times and I've come to a quick, easy pattern that lets me force a win for whatever side I want within about 15-20 minutes.

First, from a straight zone reset the fastest way to force the war is to attack the camp counterclockwise of who you want to win the war. For example, if you want the Grimlings to win, rush to the Sonic Wolf caves and kill the Packleader/Named. This will force an attack on the caves by the Grimlings. Leave the caves, attack the Defending wolves, and rush to the Owlbear Caves. Once you get the message that the Grimlings have taken the caves, kill off the Owlbear Packleader/Named. This will force an attack on the Owlbears.

For Sonic Wolves, attack the Owlbears, and for Owlbears, attack the Grimlings.

While they MAY be random in terms of who attacks the camp once the leader has been killed, I've done the war 12 times now using this pattern, and it hasn't deviated from the pattern yet.
The war ROCKS!
# Oct 02 2003 at 8:01 AM Rating: Excellent
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I did the war last night and it is a blast! This is the way I found things are. First there are 3 camps in the zone. One is the huts in the south, another is a small cave in the east, and the third is a larger cave in the northwest of the zone. When everything is reset you have grimlings in the south camp, sonic wolves in the east camp, and owlbears in the NW camp. You actually do not have to do anything for them to start fighting if you don't want too. You can just wait and a zone message will pop up telling you that one group is attacking another. As others have stated though you can force the fighting by killing the named at one of the camps. Either way they will fight.

They always attack in a counter clockwise direction. In other words the south camp attacks the east. The east attacks the NW camp and the NW camp attacks the south. Knowing that you can minipulate things so that the group you wish to win will control all the camps.

Essentially if the group you want to win is attacking then head to the camp they are invading and kill any defenders (if any spawned). When the invaders get there and you have killed the defenders they just walk in and take over the entire camp. If the group you want to win is being attack then just intercept the invaders and kill them. In order to get one group to control all three camps you will probablly have to at least stop one attack and assist in the winning of another. Just note that defenders are perma rooted. You can't pull them!! They will summon you so casters can have a rough time even if the defenders are green.

No one group will ever take all three camps without player intervention. You may see just two in control going back and forth without player intervention but they will not take all three camps without an assist. When one group finally gets all three camps then there is a small outpost just south of the kitty city that will be taken over by the winning group and a named will spawn there. This named will be a bit tougher than any you have faced to this point at the three camps. They drop some decent gear though most all is no drop. When you kill the named in that outpost everything resets and you can start over.

You can leave that outpost alone and just make your rounds to each of the three camps farming the items the named there drop. Most of these are NOT no drop so you can use and/or sell them. Some people also like doing this if a certain group drops trade skill and/or quest items. The more MOBS of the type they need the better ;).

Be kind and do an ooc or shout just before the last of the three camps is taken by a single group. There are lower lvl characers that sometimes hunt around that outpost south of the kitty city and they will quickly be killed when it is overrun if you don't warn them. Even higer lvl peeps may like to know so they don't get annoying agro.
Defenders/No defenders
# Jun 28 2003 at 3:56 PM Rating: Decent

I've seen this happen before, with me the only one in the zone. What I think happens is that, when one race has control of two camps, and the other race attacks from the third camp, no defenders will spawn in order to let them win that camp... I sat and watched the two races (Owlbears and Sonic Wolves) each take turns attacking the owlbear caves and winning them because no defenders popped in front, four times in a row.... I suspect this is a deliberate bit of coding so that a Prince doesn't just randomly spawn.
Zone broken for low-level questers after revamp
# Jun 23 2003 at 8:03 PM Rating: Excellent
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Just entered the zone tonight for the first time since the revamp. I've spent several hours there and only seen one, count them one, owlbear cub that is on at least a 10 minute respawn timer in the entire zone when all factions are up. This effectively breaks ALL low-level Vah Shir quests leading to the Sonic Wolf Bane weapons and the cloak upgrades. While the war itself has been fixed, most other quests associated with this zone are now effectively broken. Excuse me for sounding a bit bitter, but I've have spent a lot of time getting to the point where I *might* be able to get my Wolf Bane to find it now almost impossible.
RE: Zone broken for low-level questers after revamp
# Jul 10 2003 at 9:45 PM Rating: Decent
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you may want to try paludal. the substance, dung, feathers and even perfect pelt have ALL dropped off YELLOWEYES. hes about lvl 13 or something? may want to check it out friend.
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RE: Zone broken for low-level questers after revamp
# Aug 20 2003 at 3:08 AM Rating: Decent
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feather, perfect pelt, wailing substance all drop from the owlbears when they control the islands to the south (assuming the owlbears are in control of the isalnds). Not sure about the rest you need for the quest, but with soo many of them when they control the islands, it should be a breeze. I've seen bile drop as a rare drop too. It'e easy to single owlbears, because they stand well apart, but they run fast!
RE: Zone broken for low-level questers after revamp
# Sep 30 2003 at 9:43 AM Rating: Good
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I was in the zone last night. The sonic wolves had the islands to the south. The Owlbears had their cave in the NW of the zone. I got the feather and perfect pelt and the Owlbears did NOT have control of the islands to the south.
Zone broken for low-level questers after revamp
# Jun 23 2003 at 8:03 PM Rating: Default
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Double post, please delete

Edited, Mon Jun 23 20:22:35 2003
War Technique.
# Jun 01 2003 at 2:10 AM Rating: Excellent
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Here's my "guide" if you will, to doing the zone war.

The Zone is comprised of 3 camps. North, East, and South. (N, E, and S). Each zone has a native race:

N - Owlbears
E - Sonic Wolves
S - Grimlings

All 3 camps are connected via pathways to one another. Before the war is started, all 3 races are at peace.

To start the war, head to the North camp, and kill "an owlbear denmaster". Denmaster is not always the mob that will be up. Whatever mob is in the far back room on the center left (Skriat'Chu or an owlbear denmaster), kill it.

During the war, each race will lauch "attacks" on eachother. The way to tell when this happens is through zone-wide broadcasts. Each broadcast will tell you Who is attacking what camp. When an attack occurs, the attacking race will send out a string of 5 mobs.

These 5 mobs will follow the paths connecting the camps. The camp that will be under siege, Defenders of whatever race pop. (Owlbear, Sonic Wolf, or Grimling Defenders, depends on who's getting attacked.). If the defenders are still up when the attacking party of 5 mobs reaches that camp, the defenders will attack and kill the party. If the defenders are NOT up, then that party will walk into the camp and take it over, making it respawn with mobs of that new race.

Defenders spawn when that camp is attacked. They despawn 5 minutes after an attack if they were still up when the attacking party reached the camp.

Defenders do not move, so you cannot pull them, they do summon so be wary.

Note - Grimling defenders at south camp have a very nice immy heal going for them, so either take out the immy, or hope for the best and see if you can kill them.

When one race controls all 3 camps, the normal mercantile area near Shar Vahl despawns and repops with the main "Boss" of the war, depending on what race controls all 3 camps. Once the "Boss" is up, if you kill it, the zone respawns and the war is over.

Making a race win the war
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First, pick your race:

Owlbears - (Owlbear Claw Earrings, Owlbear feathered circlet, mantle, spear - minor loot)

(Flowing Thought 1 item, Polished owlbear beak, some wierd club - main loot)

Sonic Wolves (Elder wolf Jawbone / Hide, Sonic Fang Earring, Ear of the blind wolf - minor loot)

(Mask of the blind wolf, cloak of the blind wolf, sword of the blind wolf - main loot)

Grimlings (Fang Shaped Stone Earrings, Various acrylia pieces, Ornate Shell Pestle, various other loot - minor loot)

(Belt of the Grimling Skullcracker, haste mask, other thing - Main loot)


2nd, start the war.

3rd, make a loop around , killing the "named" at each camp.

When OWls have north camp, "named" is either owlbear denmaster, or Skriat'Chu.

When Sonics have East camp, "named" is either sonic wolf packleader, or Ghowlik.

When sonics have south camp, "named" is Scarflank.

When Grimlings have East camp, "named" is Grum No Eyes.

When Grimlings have south camp, "named" is grimling cheiftan.

Make a loop around killing the "named" at each camp, this will help to speed up the war. Wait for zone wide broadcasts.

If the race that you want to win is attacking, run quickly to the camp that is going to be attacked and slay EVERY defender.

If the race that you want to win is going to be attacked, find the attacking party mob:

Owl attacking party mob: A Furious Owlbear
Wolf attacking party mob: A sonic wolf fiend
Grim attacking party mob, A grimling invader

And slay every mob in the attacking party. Contine your loop around until the race you want controls all 3 camps, this should take around 1 hour. Then, run to Shar VAhl ent.

If you have a ranger, have them pull the main "boss" with your bow.

Owl Boss - Skriat'Chakku
Wolf Boss - Gnarlick
Grim Boss - Prince Garzemort

If not, then slay the mobs guarding the boss, until you reach them.

Congratulations, you have completed the Hollowshade Zone War!

I have used this strategy many times and i have acquired this loot:

Elder Wolf Jawbone
Elder Wolf Hide
Fang Shaped Stone Earring
Owlbear Feathered Mantle
Owlbear Feathered Circlet
Owlbear Feathered Spear
Polished Owlbear Beak
Ornate Shell Pestle
Owlbear Claw Earring
Sonic Claw Earring
Ear of the Blind Wolf
Mask of the Blind Wolf
Cloak of the Blind Wolf
Eye of the Owlbear Mother

Me - 44 ranger and my friend 57 ranger do this war often, and it for its ease, it is a very nice quest to do.

I hope this strategy helps you. Good luck to all!
Caution....
# May 13 2003 at 2:25 PM Rating: Excellent
Just as a warning to the high level folks who are enjoying the war.... lower level characters are in there doing their newbie quest stuff, and when the kitty camp gets over run, we usually die.... Once I figured out about the war, and by talking to whomever was running it, it wasn't so bad, (Quick, run for cover, war is procking, heads up, etc.) but just be kind enough to check every now and then... =c)
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RE: Caution....
# Aug 18 2003 at 4:54 PM Rating: Decent
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I second this. I have a lowbie kitty shaman and am wanting to complete the sonic bane weapon quest. I send in my main (Urnihixul, 56 rog) to scout out the area in Hollowshade, so I don't go in totally blind. I have been there the past two days and haven't seen a single grimling... anywhere. I need a drop from the mystics, apparently. Before I knew that, I would go around and kill whatever I could find. Apparently this annoyed someone who wanted to contol the war. Anyhow, just a reminder to everyone to be fair with this.
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War Walkthrough
# Apr 24 2003 at 8:04 PM Rating: Good
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ok, here is some info to the war, from what i have found:

-there are 3 camps, and one (maybe 2 in north camp) spawns that trigger a reaction. in the north camp, it will cause the wolves to advance if they are up. south camp advances bears if they are up. east camp advances grimlings if they are up. the advances are in a counterclockwise direction from where the thing is (from start, wolves attack north, bears vs south, grims vs east). 1 race winning all 3 spawns the prince in the Shar Vahl camp and killing him gets u some no drop loot and resets the war

-there are certain drops races drop only in the south camp. bears drop wailing substances, wolves drop shrieking substances, and grimlings drop acrylia (i dont THINK they drop this in other spots)

-at 57 as a ranger, i can own the war. period. i can control where they go etc etc.

-perma rooted mobs (defenders and grimling chieftan) summon

-all *named* mobs drop SOMETHING for loot, some is no drop some is not (IE, Jawbone or Hide off named wolf in east, always one or other). the grimling chieftan isnt named, so it doesnt always ('a grimling chieftan', note the 'a')

-The owl prince - easy
The wolf prince - so/so.. pretty easy but harder than owl
The grim prince - ouch. doubles for 97s fast, sometimes runs at sow speed if hes been buffed. *pain*

-all of the prince drops are no drop, so u might want a low lvl alt camped out to ninja the stuff to twink him /shrug, some other drops are no drop, from the grimlings, some arent

-if you know how to work the war, $$$

making 1 camp take another:

-kill the named in specific camp, see top

-kill all but 1 of the defenders, and kill the (usually 2) regular mobs near them. when the invaders get there, let them engage then finish defender off, let them walk in and take the camp. i found EAST camp with WOLVES in it, the hardes to take over, but since i usually have wolves in all.. *shrug*

-rinse, repeat, get ph@t l3wtz

when owlbears are gone, killing south advances grimlings. havent figured out when wolves or grimlings are gone yet.

the drops are MAINLY caster stuff, not all of it but a lot. 5wis/int 10hp/mana saves and AC earring, some med mod items, etc. there is a couple melee things tho like a haste belt

ill reply to this post if i learn anything new

- RAWRness -

-Partil
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RE: War Walkthrough
# Apr 28 2003 at 7:30 PM Rating: Decent
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i havent confirmed yet, but my belief is, ok, say the wolves r in E and N and grims in S. since no bears, S advances its home race, grimlings. so if u attack in E, so grims r in S and E and bears in N, then killing in N will advance ITS home race, the bears. if you have the bears in N and S and wolves in E, then killing in E will advance ITS home race, the wolves. this part is PURE speculation, feel free to input/feedback/theories or facts of your own.

-RAWRness-

-Partil
HollowShade Changes
# Apr 25 2003 at 12:57 PM Rating: Decent
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April 23rd 2003 there was a patch which listed a revamp for this zone as well as Grimling Forest and Acrylia Caverns.

I went to have a look around and noticed the following :

Fewer Owlbears roaming the hills outside their cave.

Possible changes in war - Owlbear invaders arrived when I had killed the grimling Chieftain's camp and the Owlbears did not automatically win the camp. The owlbears showed up and got wiped out easily by the grimling defenders. I had killed the nearby healer types and the chief and his bodyguards and spiritists.

Wondering what other changes people have noticed and what from the former posts has become obsolete.
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RE: War Walkthrough
# Apr 24 2003 at 10:31 PM Rating: Excellent
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Very nice info Partil. =)
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RE: War Walkthrough
# Apr 24 2003 at 9:41 PM Rating: Excellent
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Nice post there very insightfull. After the patch I too was charged with excitement. Although the zone still is not perfect.

The "attacks" do not happen in any particular order. I know this because I sat there all night and had seen the wolves attack the owls three times in a row and noticed other inconsistencies with mobs attacking and taking over areas without interference (I was only person in zone). Grats on getting real lucky with "controlling the war." It is still random as far as order is concerned in my experience since the patch, although I believe the attacks may be timed now. They seemed to be happening very close to each other (the 12 minutes post below is probably right on), moreso than before even when the war worked back in the day, Im judging this by my med times.

The major bug I have seen so far in the zone is when the wolves attacked the owl cave no owl defenders spawned so the wolves basically walked right in, but when the owls attacked their home cave when the wolves owned it, the wolves spawned defenders. Not sure if this was intended or not. Basically I just killed the attackers so they couldnt take over the cave when no defenders were present. I have a feeling this was intended to make the zone harder as the named seem a lot easier now, mainly because they can be kited.

I myself have only had time to kill the boss owl mob, who is no longer the prince but is called Skriat`Chakku. He is immune to changes in run speed and hits very hard, around 97. I kited him around and I figure he has about 5k hps. Took 3 WD and 3 nukes to bring him down. He dropped two Owlbear Bone Clubs, Lore item 1HB all/all 13/30 Bane Dmg +5 Grimling, 5 str 5 dex 5 wis 5 sv fire 25hp weight 4.0.

I will post some more info when I am able to get the other boss mobs to spawn.

Hope I helped if so RATE MY POST!!!


Edited, Fri Apr 25 00:30:55 2003
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RE: War Walkthrough
# Apr 29 2003 at 6:19 PM Rating: Decent
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well.. let me adress a couple things

first this is only from experience so yeah, i could be wrong

yes it is true there is a bug every now and then with no defenders spawning in certian camps, USUALLY they do, but every now and then they will glitch

as for the random attacks, it could either have to do with A: what you are attacking, or B: i have HEARD, not confirmed, that soon after patch time there are 'random' attacks. i have noticed some attacks I didnt start, but there WERE other people in zone so i dont know

however, i think my info is pretty accurate, considering i have spawned each prince about 3 times, except owlbears i only did them once or twice. it would make sense for this to be a scripted event and not random, but knowing SOE u wont know one way or another, and they will silently change stuff and.. bleh

my 2cp

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RE: War Walkthrough
# Apr 30 2003 at 6:36 PM Rating: Excellent
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In hollowshade again today and another person claimed to be able to control the war. I have done the whole "kill the named" mobs and this did nothing for me. I still get random attacks that go all different ways. One time, with only the owl cave and wolves left, the owls attacked the sonic wolves three times in a row, then finally the wolves attacked the owls so I could get camp takeover, there was no one else in the zone and I didnt attack anything, which is why I still consider the war random. Killing named does increase the chance of a mob attacking another but it is still not one hundred percent guaranteed. To those who are "able to control" my hats off to you, you are the lucky ones. To all the newbs on legends in hollowshade that claim to control the war and event start it LOL, you can all kiss my arse, everyone knows you cannot "start" the war, it starts automatically and also starts/ends when you kill the named inside the taken over sharval camp. I have spent months in this zone I think I have an idea on how it works.

Also reguarding the bug, it is offical. Sometimes when invaders spawn defenders do not. This has happened on all the camps and it really makes things bothersome. The invaders are easy for me to kill though, just root and 300hp dot and they fall quick (cept grim invaders because you cant root/snare them).

Also reguarding the mains in the sharval camp
Best strategy is to go in invis and attack the main with a dot and snare if you can. Then train the camp around and kite. Make sure you are hitpoint buffed as you will get hit. 3 to 4 dots and the mains will fall and rest will despawn. With winged death that is about 5k hps. Wolf main can be rooted and snared, Owl cannot, I am yet to do the grimling as I am after the wolf's drops for now.

Hope I helped if so RATE MY POSTS!!!

p.s. Great posts Partil, when you say you control... do u kill the mobs of the camp you want to get attacked, or are you killing the mobs of the camp you want to be the attackers?? I have done both with little success as mentioned above, but if one of these techniques gives more success its much appreciated.



Edited, Wed Apr 30 19:00:07 2003
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RE: War Walkthrough
# May 04 2003 at 3:07 PM Rating: Decent
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first, a better strategy for mains.
invis, run in, target main, run out behind the camp so main is in range, cast a spell.. he comes out alone to play.

second, in response to your Q, read my first post. it describes what to attack to get what to advance. i will redo it here tho

for less typing later -
W=Wolf
B=Bear
G=Grimling
N=North Camp
E=East Camp
S=South Camp

ok, say the war is default (S-G, N-B, E-W). killing the trigger spawn (there might be 2 in north and they might have different responses, i think they both do the same thing though) in N will cause wolves to attack N. help the wolves take over N and then kill the trigger spawn in N camp again, wolves attack S camp

from default - kill the grimling chieftan in S camp. B attack S. help them take over, kill (i think, i only did bears once so i dont remember if this is what i did..) the bear where the grimling chieftan was, bears should attack E.

from default - kill the packleader/ghowlik in E. G attack E. kill tribal leader/gurn no eye or something in E, G attack N.

*** This Part Is Speculation ***

1. N-W, E-W, S-G.. killing S named = S attack E
2. N-B, E-W, S-B.. killing E named = E attack N
3. N-B, E-G, S-G.. killing N named = N attack S

*** 1 - Tested Twice, 2 And 3 - Speculation ***

hope this helps.

-Partil
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HSM WAR IF FIXED
# Apr 24 2003 at 3:04 AM Rating: Decent
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with the assistance of my guild today i was able to complete the war 5 times in a row. twice for owlbears and for grimling and 1 time for the wolves. It's does seem however that there are already some bugs in it...again. (I SMELL A PATCH) as the defenders stopped spawning in certain places depending on who was attacking... IE., the defenders wouldn't spawn when grimlings were attacking. so the war might fubar again...I hope not. Was alot of fun, though did piss off the Perfect Pelt Farmers quite a bit and i got some nasty tells about doing the "Stupid" war i'd been waiting since lvl 34 to have fixed.
a small 50ish team can do it really well, especially if someone knows the zone and where each camp is at. and protect those they want to save and kill those they want to lose. just warn lowbies in the zone.....
I watched one die because they got curious why a full group of 50+ were sitting in the fort...and the spawns stormed, ate him then we wiped them out....
thank heavens for the cleric and his clicky stick.
initial observation of todays Patch
# Apr 23 2003 at 6:22 PM Rating: Excellent
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Successfully completed war today. did Owlbears. Skriat'Chakku popped at outpost and dropped 2 Owlbear Feathered Caps and a beak(stackable). Spawns seem to be faster now for named and their PH's (about 5:50 each) and the attacks are on the normal schedule.

Heres what else I saw: Attackers always loose unless assisted by PC's, call for war is exactly 12min (and takes 5-8min for attack force to arrive-read next para for some thoughts on that), no named kills seem to matter. Owlbears actually did attack from the south after overrunning grims. Finally, and most importantly:
Smiley: yippee the kill actually lasts for 8min - no more 20sec poof Smiley: yippee

Well, about that 8min walk with 12min war cry. What if I were to root an attacking force in place, then evac to clear aggro. come back in and now the attack force is delayed by 3 min so may take 2 of em. in the mean time, the post they are attacking mount their own offensive. Maybe 2 camps could actually be manipulated to trade camps :). I know, crazy idea, they probably de-spawn after 10min if they haven't engaged yet.



Edited, Wed Apr 23 18:44:32 2003
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Wolves
# Feb 03 2003 at 8:37 AM Rating: Decent
13 posts
It doesn't seem to matter what I do but upon entering the moor all I ever see is wolves with the occasional owlbear, i killed the owl bear prince once and the war did not end, oh well Im gonna try again today, and what a surprise only wolves today as well... what ever Im gonna try the out post later ill post if it helps...
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Prince Spawn
# Jan 27 2003 at 4:18 PM Rating: Decent
1 post
Can anyone post how to make the Merchant area spawn the ringleaders of the dominant tribe? Currently the grimmlings have all 3 areas but the prince won't spawn or anything.
DANGER!!!
# Jan 16 2003 at 9:36 PM Rating: Decent
31 posts
Sony just reprogrammed this zone... danger! I came through this zone a couple week back with a 24 paladin and it was nice and easy to solo, you ran past the sonic wolves and to the river area and there were some occasional patrolling owlbears, you'd root one and solo, knock it out, enough said. No aggro.

Fast forward 2 weeks and I decide to go back with a 23 druid. I think, Hmmm ,now I've got snare, dot, nuke and sow, I should have a blast here! Walk out and see 3 owlbear cubs on the hill. All con green so I think time to try for a perfect owlbear pelt. Hit one and all 3 come running, so time to zone after 2 screeches. I step back out. Looking for exp this time, I then walk alittle further and see even more owlbears, so this time I harmony a couple and then root a dark blue one. Nuke nuke and wait! there are 4 more running after me. Time to zone again. I try one more time and this time two reds join the fray and I get killed. The moral is that now the zone is VASTLY different, and even hitting the greens are dangerous as you will get multiples screeching you. Not to mention the high green rockhoppers and rhinobeetles that aggro and make the fight even nastier. So those low 20's players who are coming out to solo Hollowshade, I have two words. WATCH OUT.
#ewewewmememe, Posted: Dec 21 2002 at 2:13 PM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Their aint no more sonic wolves or owlbears .. only grimlings!
?? Tallon ??
# Oct 26 2002 at 3:33 PM Rating: Decent
4 posts
ok, while running through Hollo i encountered the owlbears so i started hunting for the perfect pelt for the rallic pack. while helping my Bro i picked up an "owlbear guardian tallon"! what is this thing for? quest or what? any info would be highly appreciated.
RE: ?? Tallon ??
# Mar 12 2003 at 4:37 PM Rating: Decent
15 posts
Those tallons you've gotten are part of the Vah Shir chain quests. Once the Sonic Wolf Bane weapons are completed Vah Shir are tasked with obtaining a Grimling Chieftan Staff, a Sonic Wolf Guardian Fang, and an Owlbear Guardian Tallon.
If you are not a Vah Shir they're pretty useless to you, it's much better to shout in zone to see if anyone needs it. That is if anyone is in the zone besides yourself.
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RE: ?? Tallon ??
# Dec 29 2002 at 1:12 AM Rating: Decent
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i got one too....thats why i came here to see if there is any info....maybe something with the wars.....they always seem to go buggy...but gms say its not bugged.....just we are missing something
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The Horrors of War (or How Four Greenies Took My lvl 50)
# Oct 15 2002 at 4:11 PM Rating: Good
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This certainly clears up any questions I had with this zone. I was looking for the Owlbear skin for my Rallic Pack quest and I was stymied when I found those stupid no-owlbear-skin-droppin' Sonic Wolves in both those caves. I thought for a minute that EQAtlas.com had dropped the ball, but it was just this war after all.
Now I have to figure out how four Greenie mobs aggroed me at the entrance to one of those caves and stunned me into oblivion.

Grrrr,
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How do you start the war??
# Oct 14 2002 at 1:03 PM Rating: Decent
1 post
I have seen many helpful posts, but one question still remains...how do you start the war? what do you do to make sonic wolves attack the grimlings, because thats what i'd really like to know...the name of the item i need, the name of the npc i need to turn it into and such...any "war starting" information would be appreciated. Thanks in advance.
RE: How do you start the war??
# Jan 14 2003 at 11:16 PM Rating: Decent
41 posts
You cannot start the war, it simply starts on its own with a zone message. Although if you kill the main mobs in the zone (named & higher lvl mobs) this may start the war faster because the other mobs in the zone sense a "weakness" in their enemines. I noticed this in my stay in HS. Hope I helped.
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RE: How do you start the war??
# Oct 28 2002 at 12:13 AM Rating: Decent
41 posts
The war is started randomly. I dont care what people say, it cannot be "started." Although it seems if you want the mobs to attack each other quicker kill the named ones. The more times you kill the mains the likeliness that group will be attacked. Im not basing this on fact. I am basing this I what I personally saw during my time in hollowshade. It didnt work everytime but id say 6 to 7 out of 10 times this held true. Also keep in mind that Im basing this on exp gained months ago. I have heard rumors the zone may have been nerfed a bit.

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RE: How do you start the war??
# Mar 26 2003 at 11:45 PM Rating: Decent
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Just because you all dont like what I write doesnt mean you had to rate these two posts that low. Whats true is true I didnt make it this way verant did, you asked a question and I answered. I guess next time I just wont....no wait I have to I didnt get guru by keeping my mouth shut!
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Third times a charm
# Sep 24 2002 at 11:23 PM Rating: Excellent
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I figured Id post this message for the third time since people are too lazy to scroll down and see how the zone works and what the bugs actually are. Enjoy!

I am a 54 Druid who spent weeks in Hollowshade farming for twinks and myself. I have the mobs and the war system worked out.

Here goes.... When an attack is about to begin you will see a message in the zone. It will explain who is attacking who. After this message happens two things occur. The first and most important is that in front of each cave (Owlbear and sonic wolf) or in front of the grimling chief (depending who is being attacked.) 5 Defenders will spawn. You will see only 3 but trust me there are 5. Invaders of the tribe attacking also spawn and will be seen leaving their repectful home. If you want a certain camp to be taken over you must help kill all the defenders of that camp when the race you want is attacking, at least one invader must survive and get into the camp/cave. Most people favor letting the grimlings win since they have the best drops so far. The best way to kill the defenders is with at least two lvl 35+, all the defenders will summon you right to them. Try taking down one or two before the invaders arrive and make sure they dont die, attack the mob they attack once they are there, and dont kill all the defenders before the invaders arrive. The invaders must engage before you kill the others. FYI The defenders will always win if you dont help.

After the defenders are dead another message will pop in zone and explain that the camp is no under so and sos control. Immeadately the cave/camp will respawn with that race and the drops will start. The only way to end / start the war over again / despawn all the mobs, is to kill the grimling prince or head sonic wolf that takes over the shar val camp. Each camp must be owned by the same race to pop the leader.

The owlbears are the main zone bug. If they take over the sonic wolf cave the mobs inside it wont respawn after they are killed. I believe they also do not have a prince so they dont take over the sharval camp. Another zone bug that happens from time to time is that sometimes when a race has control over the whole zone (grims and wolves) their prince wont spawn and the sharval camp wont be taken over. I have tried to petition about this but gms dont do a darn thing but report it to tech people. So basically if one race controls the whole zone and their main isnt up you are stuck waiting til a patch and cannot trigger anything. Daily petitions should get a gm to repop the zone back to normal where all races will be up again/

Be aware that people in zone when the prince pops usually dont want them dead right away. The drops from the named mobs in each area can be farmed for hours as long as the leader in the camp doesnt get killed. Each named have place holders but their spawn times are only 12 minutes.

Some of the drops are:
Grims own owls - no drop haste belt, no drop meditate cap, and no drop arms with saves
Grims own wolves - no drop face for casters, and awesome ring droppable
Wolves own owls - no drop earring 5str -10chr, decent shoulders for tanks, shield back equipable
Wolves own grims - nice melee no drop collar
Owls own grims - Decent shoulders

The best drops in the zone come from the two princes which include a 25ac 25hp no drop bp and a no drop haste cloak plus a great no drop mask for casters. The drops off the usual mobs in the zone are also pretty good, such as the owl earrings, wolves sword and shouders, and grims staff and range item.

Good Luck I hope Ive helped and if so RATE MY POST!






Edited, Tue Jan 14 22:49:41 2003
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RE: Third times a charm
# Apr 21 2003 at 1:46 PM Rating: Excellent
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Thanks for the info Eristotle. Here's the most useful info I got from your post: ". . . The invaders must engage before you kill the others [defenders]. "

I petitioned daily to have the broken zone reset, and 45min after it was, some necro went and helped the owlbears take over the Grims again (I wanted the smudging stick from the chieftan for some decent fire resist gear which is a long enough camp in itself). I thought I had to help the defenders win, but with this new info, I'll just kill all the defenders before the owlbears (or wolves) engage them.

Sorry if you didn't want your info turned against the natural process of the war, but I won't let another char complain that he had the camp for 2 hrs when I've been waiting for 4-5 days for the camp to be reset.

If Verant would fix this zone, then there probably wouldn't be so much hate and discontent between PC's on the game. Make the war reset 2-4 hrs after it stops even if the prince isn't killed (or failed to spawn, for some crazy reason). Hell, have the Vah Shir rush out of Shar Vahl and re-take the outpost, there's a twist. The 2 L60ish guards could easily take the L30ish prince. Oh well, for now, I'll just do what I have to do.

Thanks Eristole.

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Edit 4/23
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Well, this didn't work. Could be cause of today patch which promised it "Revamped" the zone (note-NOT that it "fixed" the zone). I waxed all the grimling defenders, owlbears showed up and I was hoping they'd find noone to battle and would simply despawn. about .00301 seconds later, POOF!! Owlbears own the Grimling camp.

Well, I can't complain. During the next hour, the Sonic wolves attack 4 times (which I obliterate with my warder, I love that little guy) then the Owlbears attack the wolves. Well, by this time I had joined with someone I met that day - Infernostar, his wife Lareieli, and his other toon Gemstar. He spent much time before and was there to see about updating his guide of the zone after the patch message.

Well anyways, down go the defenders, and. . . believe it or not, Skriat'Chakku actually really spawned at the outpost. He only dropped 2 Owlbear Feathered Caps.

I'll probably be here for the next few days (even though there's no exp to be had) manipulating the war to see if it really is working.

Edited, Wed Jun 11 15:54:52 2003
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#Valria, Posted: Jan 09 2003 at 9:31 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) Excellent Post Eristotle !
Suggestions for Hunting
# Sep 14 2002 at 11:39 AM Rating: Decent
I'm a lvl 22 SK and my partner is a lvl 22 Shamen. Where is the best place for us to hunt in this zone? If we should stay near the zone walls, what location would be best? Thanks for your help!
RE: Suggestions for Hunting
# Sep 15 2002 at 1:02 PM Rating: Decent
25 posts
This is not the greatest zone to hunt in at lvl 22-24, take it easy and go slow. Best hunting are grim farmers and hunters, but be advised, you cant outrun them even with sow. Some hunt around the outpost and run to the guards when the going gets tough, but those will turn green before 22. Best bet is to hunt around the outskirts of a grim village with a good puller (arrows work nice). Do not pull from inside the vilage, you will get 4 or 5 on you at once. Even pulling the ones outside the village will occasionlly get an add. It can be done, but I would not rate this zone as my favorite for this lvl.

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Its a bug, no its a feature, opps, no it is a bug, sorry
# Sep 03 2002 at 8:40 AM Rating: Default
25 posts
Oh well, there is another opinion. According to one GM (Guides are totally worthless), there are two timers that cause the Prince to spawn at the outpost (only way to end the war). If they get out of sync (very common) then the zone will never be able to spawn the Prince at the outpost. Best strategy after one faction has taken over is to kill all the named in zone (requires 45+ lvl with tracking), wipe out the wolf cave (they dont respawn) then petition for a zone reset saying that the timers are messed up again, that the names have been killed, and that the wolf cave is not respawning.

It took us a week to get the zone reset with many petitions every night. Then, some idiot who had to have an owlbear pelt, helped the stupid wolves take over again sigh another week of petitioning. Guys (cause gals arent that stupid), you can buy an owl bear pelt in the Bazaar for between 200 and 250. Dont have that much? Well if the grims hold owlbear cave, it will take you one to two hours to make that much pp (acrylia sells for good prices). Meanwhile everyone wanting a haste belt or a helm that helps meditate wont be kept waiting for weeks for one.

Meanwhile if you want to help a faction take over an area, have the manners to ask the others in the zone if they mind. Imagine camping for the haste belt for several hours and having some bleeping idiot reset the cave to wolves because the crybaby had to have owlbears again. Happened to me. His name for all the world to know and flame is Felpaur.

It only takes one idiot to mess up everyones lives, well sometimes it takes 19.

Endyr Sparks 52 Enchanter on TP



Edited, Wed Sep 4 09:03:51 2002
RE: Its a bug, no its a feature, opps, no it is a bug, sorry
# Mar 12 2003 at 4:48 PM Rating: Decent
15 posts
Another problem here is that this zone is the source of the Vah Shir quests and coming into the zone with everything grimlings is just plain annoying when you are trying to get a quest done.

Also remember that petitions are not always answered immediately. For instance the other day the zone was totally grimlings, so we farmed the quest pieces from the grimlings till we were full up. By the time we were done we were the only ones in the zone and the others that were there earlier had logged. At this point I petitioned to have the zone reset; four hours later a GM replys to me saying that the he is about to repop the zone. When I get to hallowshade however a lvl50 Iksar beastlord is flaming about the reset and working towards messing up any effort to complete the afore mentioned quest.
If you want to talk about civility, then clear the path when people are trying to get their quests done. It makes life so much easier when people stop being greedy and try to work together.
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RE: Its a bug, no its a feature, opps, no it is a bug, sorry
# Jan 01 2003 at 7:46 AM Rating: Default
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ever consider that people hunting owlbear pelts may consider it rude for you to kill thier owlbear supply? at the end of the day they have the right to hunt them as much as you have the right to hunt for haste belt especially since this is a 10-30 zone NOT A 52!!!!!!
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#Baron von gimpzor, Posted: Apr 06 2003 at 1:51 AM, Rating: Sub-Default, (Expand Post) "since this is a 10-30 zone NOT A 52!!!!!!"
WAR
# Aug 20 2002 at 8:14 PM Rating: Good
2 posts
I recently ran into linbien in game and he proposed an interesting concept to me.Perhaps when the zone get's ("stuck") with one group in controll, it isn't really "stuck". The behavior of the GM's in regards to this lead me to believe this may be true. Upon my questioning over this the GM I was speaking to became very evasive, kinda like leading me to believe I was missing something. to paraphrase he said something like (I'm not allowed to give out information of this kind. what you need to do is watch the spawns in the zone very carefully maybe the captain will spawn soon.) OK so what captain??? maybe a slip of the tounge or maybe a hint I don't know. Linbien's proposition is that somewhere in zone there is a PH which as long as it is left alive will keep the prince from spawning, making the zone appear stuck, his solution= kill every darn grimmy you see. hehe. I tend to believe that this PH if it exist will be something a little different, and I intend to log in and really study and think about the various mobs spawn points,movements etc,etc.
The hollowshade war
# Aug 20 2002 at 5:42 PM Rating: Decent
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Ok, if you know anything about hollowshade you should know that there is a war and the sides raid each other... I am going to specify what you can do when one tribe rules all. When the owlbears rule all it is not very good. At the grimling camp will be all crappy owlbears and where the cheif used to spawn a schreechmaw will spawn. Camped this for 5 times and got 2 owlbear claw earrings, also as a uncommon drop some sort of caster shoulders are sposed to drop. At the wolf cavrens the will nothing, it will be empty. To get Prince Skrikatat to spawn you have to kill the wandering mobs outside the owlbear caves. I got him to spawn about twice in 1 hour. You do not want the owlbears to take the hole zone or else it cannot be reset. (only by gm's)

Next is when the grimlings rule all of the zone. The best drops IMO is at the owlbear cave, If you want the haste belt you must kill the mob in the top left corner of the room where you turn left in going in the cave. Gleeknat spawns once in a while there. I got him about 4 times in 2 1/2 hour. All 4 times dropping his helm =(. Also if you camp the spot where The skrekiat chu spawns you will get the gnikiat gnittwit (not real clear on the name). Got him about 3 times in 2 1/2 hours. He dropped a armpiece good for rogues and a rogue only spear. Here are the stats since i have read no post saying they have found this.
6/27 skill mod 3% piercing +3str wis sv disease effect of engulfing darkness.
This is all i have done so far with these ruling the zone. Have fun!

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Faction Wars
# Jul 31 2002 at 1:34 AM Rating: Decent
I must agree with some of the prior posts. It is refreshing to see a zone with a dynamic sense of its own. However, I also agree that as refreshing as it may be, it is also a pain in the ars for one whom is questing and requires a dropped itme off a faction that is not in power - especially if it seems to never reset. I am doing, the ever popular, rallic quest and have been stopping by this zone for weeks now and have yet to see a change in control... A time limitation is definitely in order for those in domination of the zone, so that the rest of us are not so put-out by the actions of others whom took our quest creatures out of control and perhaps caused them to become extinct. I love the dynamics, I just think this could have been better thought out.
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Zone Reset's
# Jul 08 2002 at 12:30 AM Rating: Good
I find it pretty strange that when this zone is set one way (owlbears in control), it is often left like that for an extended period of time. Yet, when it is set with wolfs in control it is left for about a week. However when Grimlings are left to rule the zone, it gets reset with in two days.

To point this out to a GM is futile to say the least. You never get the same answer from two GM's.
Do they all use the play book or do they just not know?

Why don't they reset zone war after say 48 hours. Then if you wanted to get something from a camped mob there you have the opportunity, without imposing too much upon others.

Just my 2cp
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Hollowshade War info
# Jul 02 2002 at 12:40 PM Rating: Excellent
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I figured Id post this message again since people are too lazy to scroll down and see how the zone works. Enjoy!

I am a 45 Druid who has been in Hollowshade for a few weeks now and I have the mobs and the war system worked out.

Here goes.... When an attack is about to begin you will see a message in the zone. It will explain who is attacking who. After this message happens two things occur. The first and most important is that in front of each cave (Owlbear and sonic wolf) or in front of the grimling chief (depending who is being attacked.) 5 Defenders will spawn. You will see only 3 but trust me there are 5. Invaders of the tribe attacking also spawn and will be seen leaving their repectful home. If you want a certain camp to be taken over you must help kill all the defenders of that camp when the race you want is attacking, at least one invader must survive and get into the camp/cave. Most people favor letting the grimlings win since they have the best drops so far. The best way to kill the defenders is with at least two lvl 35+, all the defenders will summon you right to them. Try taking down one or two before the invaders arrive and make sure they dont die, attack the mob they attack once they are there. The defenders will always win if you dont help.

After the defenders are dead another message will pop in zone and explain that the camp is no under so and sos control. Immeadately the cave/camp will respawn with that race and the drops will start. The only way to end / start the war over again / despawn all the mobs, is to kill the grimling prince or head sonic wolf that takes over the shar val camp. Each camp must be owned by the same race to pop the leader.

The owlbears are the main zone bug. If they take over the sonic wolf cave the mobs inside it wont respawn after they are killed. I believe they also do not have a prince so they dont take over the sharval camp. Another zone bug that happens from time to time is that sometimes when a race has control over the whole zone (grims and wolves) their prince wont spawn and the sharval camp wont be taken over. I have tried to petition about this but gms dont do a darn thing but report it to tech people. So basically if one race controls the whole zone and their main isnt up you are stuck waiting til a patch and cannot trigger anything.

Be aware that people in zone when the prince pops usually dont want them dead right away. The drops from the named mobs in each area can be farmed for hours as long as the leader in the camp doesnt get killed. Each named have place holders but their spawn times are only 12 minutes.

Some of the drops are:
Grims own owls - no drop haste belt, no drop meditate cap, and no drop arms with saves
Grims own wolves - no drop face for casters, and awesome ring droppable
Wolves own owls - no drop earring 5str -10chr, decent shoulders for tanks, shield back equipable
Wolves own grims - nice melee no drop collar
Owls own grims - Decent shoulders

The best drops in the zone come from the two princes which include a 25ac 25hp no drop bp and a no drop haste cloak plus a great no drop mask for casters. The drops off the usual mobs in the zone are also pretty good, such as the owl earrings, wolves sword and shouders, and grims staff and range item.

Good Luck I hope Ive helped.

Eristotle Andronicus
45 Druid Halfelf
Officer-Druids Empire-Rallos Zek

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RE: Hollowshade War info
# Jul 28 2002 at 10:51 PM Rating: Decent
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How do you get the war to start? And where is the Var Shal camp (wasnt looking for it, just would like to know)?

I need a perfect owlbear skin for the Rallic Pack quest. I went HM tonight and the areas 1, 3 and 5 on EQatlas locations were all grimlings. Unlike the rockhoppers/sambatas in DS, killing the tribal leader doesnt despawn the tribals (in this case grimlings).

krexel evilsmasher lvl 55 Dwarf Paladin, xev


Edited, Sun Jul 28 23:53:17 2002
RE: Hollowshade War info
# Jul 17 2002 at 1:26 PM Rating: Decent
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That was very helpful and thanks for the re-post, but I have one question...How do you start the War to begin with? You tell how to restart, end the War or despawn mobs but not how to get it going.

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Trivial Loot Code?
# Jun 29 2002 at 2:16 PM Rating: Decent
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I've never knowingly played in a zone with the TLC turned on, but last night, while hunting green wolf pups for a quest item, I occasionally got the message "A sonic wolf pup's corpse is no match for your skill" or something like that.

Is this the message for TLC? If so, is this a bug? I never did get the wolf molars to drop, and finally got disgusted and left.

Thanks for any input. Also, did petition it to find out, but they never contacted me.

Elessarion
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crazy war
# Jun 22 2002 at 11:56 AM Rating: Decent
48 posts
So unfortunately - I killed the defenders in the grimling camp and now the wolves own their camp plus the grimling camp. No one is attacking i have spent a week in this zone and not once was a message sent out saying the war was going on attacks or otherwise. I spoke to a GM and he said everything was working the way its suppose to.

My question is can i force a take over of the outpost or owlbear cave (grimlings are in there now)? I have not seen any grimling defenders outside the owlbear cave otherwise i would just kill them - any help would be appreciated.

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HM and Low leveler Quests
# Jun 05 2002 at 8:48 AM Rating: Decent
I think Verant should take a good hard look at this zone and I will tell you why. It can be summed up in one word.. questing. Some of the Vah Shir quest items are dropped off the Owlbears which USED to roam unabated in HM. Now all it takes is a couple of thoughtless and greedy high levelers that simply want to loot GrizKnot to screw up the lower levelers questing. I have seen times when there has been no owlbears in the moor for a couple weeks straight and when I DO happen to see them, they last for hours and then someone comes along and kills the owlbear defenders and then no more Owlbears.. ie Questing comes to an abrupt stop for the lower levelers. Please people... Your decision to kill the owlbear defenders affects a LOT of people, whose characters dont have the strength to end the war to bring the owlbears back or dont have the luxury of a high level character to come in and end the war. You are stranding them all in their bane weapon questing. If you have camped Grizknot for hours.. spend a few more minutes and reset the war.
Verant should take a hard look at this. Luclin is great, and Hollowshade is one of the best zones in the game IMHO. But letting a couple of people affect so many is simply ridiculous. The zone should be reset to normal in a specified time. There would be more Vah Shir throught the game due to people not getting frustrated and deleting their characters because they simply cannot get Small Owlbear Claws or something similiar to continue on. And this happens more than most realize. I have talked to a few that have done this very thing.
Anyways, Happy Hunting to you all and may the Light of Norrath shine brightly on all Vah Shir!!
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Laash Lyrix (Vah Shir)
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RE: HM and Low leveler Quests
# Sep 09 2002 at 2:20 PM Rating: Decent
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Why not make the best of a poor situation by farming the mobs for the item they drop for the bane weapon and then /petition it and get a good argument why it needs to be escalated ready...the guides can't help, but if you can get them on your side then they might go bug someone important enough for you.? That way when someone else down the road needs some help doing their quest you can tell them you'll be right back.
I've been looking for vah shir on my server for a few weeks now trying to find people who can help me; finally gave up and am levelling alts and getting other characters who aren't cats to the point that they can make components. Big pain in the tush.
RE: HM and Low leveler Quests
# Jun 05 2002 at 9:33 AM Rating: Decent
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I agree whole heartedly. I only add that it's even more frustrating when the war gets bugged and the zone remains stuck with one race in control and no way to conclude the war no matter how high level you might be. The most recent bug on Vazaelle had only wolves in HM for almost three full weeks. During that time it was rare to see anyone in the zone except those just passing through. Think of all those frustrated questers that just gave up. Yet another excellent reason to reset the war on a timer IMHO.

Sharrien Dreamstalker
Beastlord of the 44th season
Vazaelle
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sonic weapon quest
# Jun 04 2002 at 3:39 PM Rating: Decent
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I am a vah shir beastlord trying to finish the sonic wolf bane weapon. I only need the components made by a shaman and a rogue. If you are anywhere close to being able to make these pieces send me a tell on Vazaelle. I will trade one of my lashings for it or buy it. I would even be willing to fund advancing your skills up to the 130s if that is all that is holding you back.

If nothing else take another look at this series of quests...the cloaks given as rewards are well worth it.

Sharrien Dreamwarden
Beastlord of the 44th season
Vazaelle
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Ravingronn Blazewarden, Master Artisan, Master Researcher
Celestial Navigators, Drinal
runes?
# May 12 2002 at 3:06 AM Rating: Decent
What are the etched acrylia runes for that the grimlings drop?
Black Silt Clay?
# May 08 2002 at 9:05 AM Rating: Decent
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I recently found an item called 'black silt clay' in an uderwater ground spawn at loc -1195, +2310. i can't find any info on it anywhere. I asked most of the npc's in Shar vahl, Shadeweaver's and Hollowshade Moor and got no response. I tried a few pottery recipies too but 'did not combine'. Anyone have any idea what this is for? It's no drop and a fast respawn (i got a full stack in less than an hour while hunting patrolling owlbears for pelts).


Edited, Wed May 8 09:57:54 2002
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RE: Black Silt Clay?
# May 17 2002 at 1:50 PM Rating: Decent
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That clay is for the Bard sonic weapon component.
It's actually a pretty common spawn, both underwater and on the ground around the paludal edge of the moors.
Citizen quest items for Vah Shir
# May 04 2002 at 12:53 PM Rating: Decent
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I am looking for an item called "White Sand", should be a ground spawn. If anyone can give me the loc I would be grateful. I scoured the moor, and did not find it. I have come loc's if any one else is interested...Chunk of Porus Ore /loc 315 neg772 (warrior part) Black Silt Clay /loc neg1209 2302 (Bard Part) Hollow Palm Root neg1475 1612 (not sure what this is for, shaman or rogue part?)

Edited, Sat May 4 13:49:38 2002
RE: Citizen quest items for Vah Shir
# May 10 2002 at 6:19 AM Rating: Decent
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while camping the Chieftan I have been having alot of no drop quest stuff droping from him and the spirtist behind him...and one of things was white sand, 2 times so for. hope this helps.

Conrad of the Tunare server
Quests involving the Moor...
# May 04 2002 at 12:06 AM Rating: Decent

I was camping the Grimling Chieftan today. I killed the spiritists and one of them dropped an item I have never seen drop...a Grimling Chieftan Staff dropped...no stats, NONE/NONE, Lore, No Drop, Magic. It cannot be equipped but it has the same icon graphic as the Skull Shaped Ceremonial Hammer. Does anyone know what this is for?
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some observations
# Apr 24 2002 at 8:08 AM Rating: Decent
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well at least on eci this is still buggy.. ive personally have completed/almost completed the war twice now

also note there is always 5 defenders even if u only see 3 there will be 5 2 will be overlapped

furthermore u have to loot boss quickly as zone repops soon after his death something like within 30secs

the buggy part is
1 if wolves win they wont take the vah shir camp and therefore no boss therefore wolf zone till next server downtime
2 if owlbears win u only get 1 set of owlbears in the wolf cave (ie no respawns) but boss owlbear appears in vah shir camp so war can be completed

waitin on servers to come back up so i can try it with grimlings


Edited, Wed Apr 24 09:10:32 2002
RE: some observations
# Apr 27 2002 at 4:28 PM Rating: Decent
Scholar
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The wolves do in fact take over the val shir camp. I witnessed his demise. If he doesnt pop theres a bug.
Hollowshade strategy
# Apr 20 2002 at 11:38 AM Rating: Excellent
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I am a 40 Druid who has been in Hollowshade for a few days now and Im pretty sure I have the mobs and the war system worked out.

Here goes.... When an attack is about to begin you will see a message in the zone. It will explain who is attacking who. After this message happens two things occur. The first and most important is that in front of each cave (Owlbear and sonic wolf) or in front of the grimling chief (depending who is being attacked.) 5 Defenders will spawn. You will see only 3 but trust me there are 5. Invaders of the tribe attacking also spawn and will be seen leaving their repectful home. If you want a certain camp to be taken over you must help kill all the defenders of that camp when the race you want is attacking, at least one invader must survive and get into the camp/cave. Most people favor letting the grimlings win since they have the best drops so far. The best way to kill the defenders is with at least two lvl 35+, all the defenders will summon you right to them. Try taking down one or two before the invaders arrive and make sure they dont die, attack the mob they attack once they are there. The defenders will always win if you dont help.

After the defenders are dead another message will pop in zone and explain that the camp is no under so and sos control. Immeadately the cave/camp will respawn with that race and the drops will start. The only way to end / start the war over again / despawn all the mobs, is to kill the grimling prince or head sonic wolf that takes over the shar val camp. Each camp must be owned by the same race to pop the leader.

The owlbears are the main zone bug. If they take over the sonic wolf cave the mobs inside it wont respawn after they are killed. I believe they also do not have a prince so they dont take over the sharval camp. Another zone bug that happens from time to time is that sometimes when a race has control over the whole zone (grims and wolves) their prince wont spawn and the sharval camp wont be taken over. I have tried to petition about this but gms dont do a darn thing but report it to tech people. So basically you are stuck waiting til a patch.

Be aware that people in zone when the prince pops usually dont want them dead right away. The drops from the named mobs in each area can be farmed for hours as long as the leader in the camp doesnt get killed. Each named have place holders but their spawn times are only 12 minutes.

Some of the drops are:
Grims own owls - no drop haste belt, no drop meditate cap, and no drop arms with saves
Grims own wolves - no drop face for casters, and awesome ring droppable
Wolves own owls - no drop earring 5str -10chr, decent shoulders for tanks, shield back equipable
Wolves own grims - nice melee no drop collar
Owls own grims - Decent shoulders

The best drops in the zone come from the two princes which include a 25ac 25hp no drop bp and a no drop haste cloak plus a great no drop mask for casters. The drops off the usual mobs in the zone are also pretty good, such as the owl earrings, wolves sword and shouders, and grims staff and range item.

Good Luck I hope Ive helped.

Eristotle Andronicus
40 Druid Halfelf
Officer-Druids Empire-Rallos Zek

BTW Please rate this post if it helped you in any way. Thanks!

Edited, Sun May 5 23:22:09 2002
added info
# May 09 2002 at 8:19 PM Rating: Good
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Top notch post by Portnoy on how this works.

1. The "invaders" seem to spawn every 30 minutes or so.
2. If you kill all the defenders _before_ the invaders have agroed the invaders will despawn.
3. The prince of "any clan" will now leave the fort. (I was told he was like the defenders and would just summon you back to him, but he chases you now)
4. 2 of the "Defenders", in the normal spawn places can be pulled and killed before the invaders arrive (and it won't bug the spawn)

Notes: When I "bugged" the spawn and made the invaders despawn, they didn't respawn again for almost 2 hours. What *May* have triggered it, is I helped the other side attack one of their camps, and take it over, to start them spawning again. After that position was taken over, 6 minutes later they sent out an invaders for that position, 30 minutes later they sent out the "bugged" spawn again.
No amount of killing PH'ers or wandering MOB's helps with speeding up the spawn.
It is Strongly suggested to clear any healer types, or wandering mob's around the defenders though.

G'Luck
RE: Hollowshade strategy
# Apr 21 2002 at 9:50 PM Rating: Default
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I wanted to add a couple of corrections. First when a war is announced and the sides are chosen, the attacker side spawns 5 mobs, but the defender side only spawns 3 actual defender mobs. It can look like 5 because the defenders spawn in a line immediately in front of the 2 guardians that are usually there. If you want to help the attacking side, get to the defender side early and pull the 2 regular guardians out of the way. Second, the outpost is taken over by whichever side takes out the other 2, whether it be sonic wolf, owlbear or grimling, and a named mob of that type will spawn in the outpost to be killed to end the war.

There is a development on Lanys that I was wondering if anyone else had seen though. On Lanys, the owlbears have taken over the grimling area but in the sonic wolf area there is nothing spawning at all. No owlbears, no sonic wolves, no grimlings, nothing. I petitioned about it and was told that this is not a bug but part of how the war was supposed to work and the area would not be respawned. I am just starting my search for info about this so if I missed something obvious or someone has seen this and figured it out, please post and let me know. Thanks!

Tunarth, 49 Vah Shir Beastlord, Lanys T`Vyl
RE: Hollowshade strategy
# Jun 19 2002 at 3:04 PM Rating: Excellent
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Well I guess you simply didnt read my post. The owlbears are bugged. They DO NOT take over ths sharval camp and if they own all three camps and they are killed within the sonic wolf cave they DO NOT repop in there. I saw this happen first hand several times and it always has the same effect. My guess is if it's suppose to happen like that It must be just to show you how weak the owls are considering they are the easiest of the three main mobs in the zone to kill and that they cant take over the tiger camp.

And as far as the defenders 5 do in fact pop. The only area where you will not see 5 defenders is the sonic wolf cave. Here only 3 in fact do pop. I have seen 5 defenders at both the grimling and owl caves (in fact I killed them there) So unless they changed/nerfed the spawn there are 5 defenders at those locations. And if it has changed those two regular mobs may be considered defenders since they will infact aggro you anyway if you attack (but they dont summon.)

Eristotle Andronicus
45 Druid Halfelf
<Druids Empire> Rallos Zek
Grimling fingerbones
# Apr 08 2002 at 1:05 PM Rating: Decent
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I am working on Broker Fahaar's Tailoring Quest, and all I need is a grimling fingerbone to get to the last part. Having spent three days killing grimling skeletons in the pit in Shar Vahl, I discover now that they drop off of grimlings in HM.

So my lvl 10 Beastlord wanders that way. No mobs in sight. I checked out the outpost, then decided to hang near the outpost guards (who con warmly) and just look around to be on the safe side. I see a black wolf nearby, which quickly disappears altogether. I take a couple of steps in the direction I last saw it, only to be attacked from behind. By the time I turned around and conned the sonic wolf (red of course), I have gone from 100% health to 20%. I am maybe six steps from the guards. I take two steps toward them and die. Thanks for the help, guard dudes!

My questions are:
1. Do the sonic wolves teleport around like blink dogs in D&D, or was I the victim of your typical lag-warp?
2. Are grimling fingerbones no drop, or do I have some hope of buying them?
3. Which grimlings drop fingerbones?
4. Is there any hope for a 10th lvl Beastlord, alone or in a group of like-leveled players, of getting a grimling fingerbone and getting out alive?

Thank you in advance for any assistance you may offer.

Zortaz, 10th lvl Vah Shir Beastlord
aka...
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RE: Grimling fingerbones
# Apr 19 2002 at 9:59 PM Rating: Decent
There is only one wolf who wanders past the outpost. Keep an eye out for him and you can be safe. He comes down the road from the sonic wolf cave, past the outpost, turning left just before the city entrance.

If you hug the city walls, as though you are traveling to Paludal Caverns, you will come to a lake with many islands on it. On these islands are grimling herders who do drop the rare toes, and even rarer fingerbones. They con blue to my lvl 23, but are underconned (like everything on the Moor), and they will gang up on you. The tortoises they herd are non-aggro but will poison you if you fight them.

I hope this helps. If the data is a duplication of information further in the page, please forgive me for not reading all the way through first. =)

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RE: Grimling fingerbones
# Apr 16 2002 at 2:42 PM Rating: Decent
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That wolf is probably around 30-35, they are rather annoying as they agro on me even though they are green. they have about a level 30's hps.
I would not try to kill those grimlings for their fingers til you are close to level 30 with a group. grimlings are levels 20-30 and rest is even higher.
RE: Grimling fingerbones
# Apr 09 2002 at 1:26 PM Rating: Decent
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I can answer questions 1 and 4.

1 They don't teleport. Most of the mobs in Hollowshade have been lagging pretty bad lately.

4 I don't think a lvl 10 has much of a chance at killing anything in the moor. The lowest mobs there are like around 12, and the grimlings are higher than that.
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Acrylica Runes of (fill in name here)
# Apr 03 2002 at 1:13 AM Rating: Decent
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I just watched the end of the war and the Grims won. We then get jumped by a dozen or so Grimling thugs and things. After killing everything the majority of the loot was a bunch of Runes.

Anyone know what these are for? In fact anyone know who needs them - we have dozens of them of all different types. Seems like a set.
RE: Acrylica Runes of (fill in name here)
# Dec 30 2002 at 4:36 PM Rating: Decent
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The etched acrylia runes that the grimlings drop are their money, that's all... I wish they could be smithed back into acrylia, but I guess that would make acrylia way to easy to come by.

So you just sell them to a vendor... different ones are worth different amounts, the most common being worth a few coppr or silver each, with the more rare runes being worth up to 4 or more plat.

As far as I know, they can not be used for research or any other purpose.
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No war yet :(
# Mar 22 2002 at 12:26 PM Rating: Decent
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RE: No war yet :(
# Mar 22 2002 at 12:29 PM Rating: Decent
12 posts
We Handed in the bard,bst and war weapons and so far no war.

Ragno Drinal Bard of the 41st song
Bane Claws made
# Mar 20 2002 at 6:30 AM Rating: Decent
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We made the claws tonight but are waiting to turn them in till tommorrow. If that dosn't start the war, my back up theory is that the owlbear Prince and the city wolf's paths cross and maybee if they fight via charm it will start it.

Ragno Drinal Bard of the 41st Song
Ahmon Guzin
# Mar 18 2002 at 5:33 PM Rating: Decent
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Well I had been waiting for Ahmon Guzin for about 2 months and when i finally see he is in the game i run to Hollowshade only to find out that he was taken out most likely from the mobs not respawning during the war so im back to waiting for him again. /sigh
The War
# Mar 14 2002 at 9:50 AM Rating: Decent
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On EMarr, the zone has been normal for the last 2 nights. I have been taking advantage of it to get the pelts I needed for the Rallic Pack (FINALLY!).

I am not sure what is happening, however, since the zone became 'normal' again, Ahmon Guzin has not been present in his normal location.

Does anyone know the respawn cycle on him after the war is finished?
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War
# Mar 12 2002 at 5:14 PM Rating: Decent
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Drinal was back to normal last night. I bielieve the trigger might be handing a Journeyman cloak to the npc in the cave by the grimling forest zone . I have 4 parts of the Sonic Bane quest done and believe the cloack is a reward for the quest. will post if i confirm.


Ragno 40 bard Drinal :)
Good Luck
Who??? and what??
# Mar 11 2002 at 1:49 PM Rating: Decent
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ok, who do i kill to get the war started? is it the sonic wolf of owlbear prince? i have kill the named sonic wolf and the named owlbear and it didn't trigger the war. this sounds like a lot of fun. also, wehn the war is over what is the drop?
that if anyone knows.


Deedaay Foe`Real
51 heretic
RE: Who??? and what??
# Mar 12 2002 at 1:18 AM Rating: Decent
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After a full cycle the war with start itself after a short period of time. During the war each faction would send invaders to attack another factions. For example if you want the grimlings to win then wait for them to send invaders to the owl bears/sonic wolf and help them kill the defenders. Should the grimlings prevail the caves would repop with grimlings. Once the grimlings controled both the sonics and owls caves their prince will spawn in the outpost. Kill him to return the zone to normal.

If you help the sonic wolfs win then the grimling town will repop with sonic wolfs. Don't know what happen when the owls win yet.
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