Quick Facts

Type: City
Continent: Odus
Instanced: No
Keyed: No
Level Range: 1 - 105
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Paineel is home to Norrath's evil Erudite contingent, the Heretics. The most notable sites here are the Fell Blade (Shadow Knight guild), Abattoir (necromancer guild), Tabernacle of Terror (cleric guild), and the Athenaeum Necromantia (the local library).

Also here are two entrances to the Hole (one through an underwater passage; the other through a leap of faith), found through a network of tunnels extending out from the newbie area. The Warrens, city of kobolds, also connects to this same area.
The CourtyardThe Guard Captain Makes His RoundsAs You Enter the Main City...In the Vicinity of the Hole
The Fell BladeThe Poisoned PetalOutside the Dark GlomInside Fortunes Fancy
Overlord Virate ManaarThe Athenaeum NecromantiaInside the AbattoirTabernacle of Terror
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# Sep 15 2010 at 12:58 AM Rating: Decent
54 posts
Had Threateningly faction to the skellie guards to get key and went into warrens to kill kobolds, killed for about 20-30min, was easy kills then went into erudin killed about 6 sentinel guards and the 2 higher lvl guards at outside entrance and went back and had Amiable faction, said: i needz keyz to one of the skellie guards got key to elevator :)
Rathe Server
Duriek Bloodpool spawn timer
# Apr 13 2008 at 3:28 PM Rating: Decent
9 posts
Does anyone know the spawn timer for this guy? cause i have been waiting 3 weeks for this guy to spawn and still has not spawned. Did he get moved to somewhere else?
# Dec 02 2005 at 12:27 PM Rating: Decent

As a level 70 Orge SK I needed some faction for my epic. I killed in the warrens for an hour got it to dubious (I leveled up in the zone)...

Then I zoned into Erudian and killed every green sential I could find, once. When I came back to Paniell I was Kindly!

got my key..w00t
RE: Faction
# Feb 09 2006 at 5:24 AM Rating: Decent
33 posts
30 min in erudin killing sentials went from kos to ally!!
Enchanter perks
# Nov 03 2005 at 9:59 AM Rating: Decent
139 posts
Being an enchanter is a beautiful thing :) Being a gnome I wanted to get the hole key, and I've been reading all these posts of how long it took to get your faction up to get in and buy it. I just made myself an erudite with an illusion, taking me to apprehensible....then cast Benevolence on the guards....and viola, suddenly I'm amiable to everyone in Paineel.
"Easy man! There's a beverage here!"
Cast thee into the firey pit...
# Aug 16 2005 at 4:44 PM Rating: Decent
I fell into the pit. I can't get my body because the bottom of the pit is in a different zone. I have no money, food, or anything to purchase a key to the hole. How can I get my body?
RE: Cast thee into the firey pit...
# Aug 16 2005 at 5:06 PM Rating: Decent
25 posts
you are going to need to get a cleric to Divine Aura jump into the hole, once down there they can rez you, maybe get a druid to jump to his/her death as well if you cannot gate.
Paineel unreachable
# Jul 22 2004 at 4:39 AM Rating: Decent
4 posts

I reactivated my old account the other day, just to find out that i can t go to stonebrunts/warrens/paineel anymore !

I DL'ed the game frome the official site, and to my surprise it didnt download the 3 zones files sets. Cant create any evil erudite either. It sucks because warrens is tons of xp and SB very good for my ranger.

I dont have the LoY zones although, maybe it is related ?

any info would be much appreciated
Former Phantasmist of Karana
RE: Paineel unreachable
# Jul 11 2005 at 6:24 PM Rating: Decent
344 posts
Go into the optional zone downloading page, from the downloader program bit, and you should be able to download such zones.
Belzer Richard/54 HLF DRU <Maiden Voyage>
Doomfeathers/53 IKS SHM <Maiden Voyage>
Samoth Keymaker/35 ELF ROG
Vorph Farvinpop/36 HIE CLR <Maiden Voyage>
Blackheim/23 ERU NEC
All on The Sleeper (soon to be The Combine)
Consequences/10 GNM MAG
on The Combine
(Blackheim, Ihsahn, Xyvorph and Isternos inactive on Povar)
# Jun 24 2003 at 11:05 PM Rating: Decent
16 posts
I need to know if a DEF Nec can go into Paineel or not. I hailed the skellie guards and they wouldnt even talk to me. Is there any way to build faction to get a key?
RE: Keyz
# Jul 30 2003 at 12:26 PM Rating: Decent
126 posts
My 36 troll shaman of CT made kindly faction today. Last night I killed Sentinels in Erudin for about 2 hours and then killed in the warrens for about 2 hours. Today I went back and killed a few more guards, and that made approximately 24 to 26 total guard kills. Too many kobolds to count but not a terrible ordeal. The sentinels give MUCH better faction but if you care about your faction in Erudin I would not advise taking that route. Was amiable after that 6 or so hours of work. Hailed one of the guards in the newbie zone and said "I need a key." and he gave me a key. Found Royal Guard Lilkus on the upper floor of Darkglow Palace at location pos 1308, pos 683 and handed in 41 kobold molars to take me to kindly. The Darkglow Palace is in the area that the third teleporter takes you took me a while to find. Time to do my initiate symbol of cazic-thule =D Hope this helps everyone.

Salkan - 54th Druid of Tunare
Ulic - 54th Warrior of Rallos Zek
Crocodillia - 36th Shaman of Cazic-Thule
Ulic - Overlord of Rallos Zek
RE: Keyz
# Jun 24 2003 at 11:49 PM Rating: Good
619 posts
kill in the warrens.

but not really worth it now they have added faction to the guards.
New faction hits
# Apr 27 2003 at 7:18 AM Rating: Decent
Went back to do some farming of the guards there on Povar today, and there is now a Heretics faction hit when you kill them - so if you're working in the warrens to get your faction up I'd almost suggest not to bother..

New faction hit is:

neg Heretics
pos Deepwater Knights
pos Gate Callers
pos Craftkeepers
pos Crimson Hands

Eccles of Povar.
Hole Key Merchant
# Mar 16 2003 at 7:45 AM Rating: Good
128 posts
The merchant that sells the Hole Key is Rallia Hapera at loc p939, p762, n79. When you look at her items for sell the key looks like a bag. That got me confused. She conned amiable to me and offered to sell me the key for 117pp 2gold 6slvr 2cpr. This was off a newly made toon. Btw, the key is No Drop. Hope that this information helps others.
RE: Hole Key Merchant
# Jul 30 2003 at 12:35 PM Rating: Decent
126 posts
Thanks for your info; she was easily found right near the bank. 106pp 4sp 9cp to my troll shammy at Kindly faction with 155 charisma. Now I won't have to shrink and do the shimmy to get into The Hole =)

Salkan - 54th Druid of Tunare
Ulic - 54th Warrior of Rallos Zek
Crocodillia - 36th Shaman of Cazic-Thule
Ulic - Overlord of Rallos Zek
Easier Faction Gain
# Feb 13 2003 at 1:13 PM Rating: Excellent
Doing much hunting in Stonebrunt, I wanted access to the city as it provides a much closer bank than Erudin. After days of trying to raise faction with the noobie area guards, someone suggested a certain Warrens quest. I did it (3 times) and had my key in one night. Go to the Warrens jail area and kill the Jailor (don't remember his specific name but Jailor is in the name and he is just between the pit fighters and the hallway swimming in rats). He drops up to three keys - give them to an Erudite imprisoned in one of the cells (he asks you for a key following a hail). You get xp from this quest but no visible faction modifiers - however, without killing anything more in Warrens I saw my faction rise to amiable from apprehensive in an hour). I have my city key now, wishing I had done this ages ago.
EQ II - Ranger of the 28st Season,
Crafter of the 23nd Rank
EQ I - Ranger of the 44th Season
Fennin Ro
Officer in Nine Chambers
Easier Faction Gain
# Nov 04 2014 at 9:51 PM Rating: Decent
68 posts
Did this tonight on my necro iksar with DE illusion. started at indiff, and after 30-40 mins of slaughter and 4 turn ins, i was amiable. was def the turn ins that did it. no visible faction gain from turn ins.
The good ol' days of EQ were all about roleplaying. In Norrath, you got to be a hero.
Blade Dancer Frayleaf
<Slayers of the Night>
90 Bard, The Rathe
Easier Faction Gain
# Nov 04 2014 at 9:49 PM Rating: Decent
68 posts
double post, please delete if possible

Edited, Nov 4th 2014 10:51pm by Ikkysar
The good ol' days of EQ were all about roleplaying. In Norrath, you got to be a hero.
Blade Dancer Frayleaf
<Slayers of the Night>
90 Bard, The Rathe
# Jan 11 2003 at 12:37 PM Rating: Default
I have a 37 Dwarf Pally and have always thought killing the guards in Paineel would be great cash. I went to the warrens to do a little faction work. I obviously started out as ready to attack to the guards so I kenw I had alot of work to go. After about 4 hours of killing I was at threatening. I thought wow that was alot fo work but shouldnt take that much longer. Boy was I ever wrong I stayed at doubious for about 5 more hours and gave up. About 2 weeks later I came back to get some cold Iron for a buddy of mine. I killed a few kobolds out of habbit, when I left I was Indiff. Woo hoo I said now I can turn in molars. So I gathered about 30 molers and when I conned the guards I found I was already Ammy. So now I am in paineel wreaking havoc and collection about 500pp a hour. Not bad for a easy days work. The best trick I have found is fear the guards and they will run to the elevator and get stuck, then you can just wack them from behind. Saves alot of Mana on heals. Our fear undead lasts along time and only cost 10 mana. Don't give up hope pallys this place is a gold mine.
Baron Famed Thedrunk 58 Pally of
Fennen Ro
I needz keyz. And how do you get out
# Dec 09 2002 at 4:58 PM Rating: Decent
31 posts
Just for those having trouble trying to get a key to paineel the exact words are"i needz keyz" said to eithger of the skeletal guards in the noobie area. Now that bits done I've discovered a little proble with paineel. I got myself bound in there as im doing a quest in Stonebrunt. I let myself out of the city using my key. I died in Stonebrunt and of course respawn in Paineel with my LORE paineel key on my body in stonebrunt. cant get another (you already have this lore item when i ask guards inside). cant operate the lift to get out again. No-one else in zone to operate lift for me.. AAAARGGH I am imprisioned mayhaps forever in this damnable city.

So if your operating out of Paineel is probably a really good idea to get a caster to bind you in the noob area rather than using soulbinder in city proper. Ill have to wait till soneone else in zone to let me out or get a guildie to come halfway round Norrath to let me out.

Edit: and additional thing of note. I found that the skeles would not give me the key at indifferent I had to get to amiable before the would give me a key into the city. Not so hard to do tho took me about 4hrs killing in warrens to get to indiffe from threateningly and then got someone else to let me into city so i could hand in kobold molar and get faction to amiable. indiff to amiable 58 kobold molars.

Edit: If the skeletons will give you a key to paineel lift when asked then you should destroy your key every time you leave the city. That way if bound inside you will always be able to ask them for another so you can get out.

Edited, Wed Dec 18 22:11:26 2002
Good, evil, I'm just a Troll with a Noctavigent Blade

Hatre Danpayne
Troll Revenant
<Ebon Tendrils>
Xegony Server
# Dec 02 2002 at 11:01 AM Rating: Decent
22 posts
Me(52 human necro) and friend(54 war) decided to get some faction to get in this town well, i was KOS (especially to that ******* of dude close to N00B zone up the stairs he like to fear me and do all kind of stuff so one day i doted him for 5 K and see if he liked it ! LOLOL anyhow other story.

To get ya faction up just go in Erudite and kill guards down there. Took us an hour and i'm amiable now .... so make sure you INVIS up (DO NOT ATTACK the two that are in TOX ... con blue to 52 and quad for 250 .... YES 250 !!!!

Just go in Erudite and kill ONLY guards, not merchant or others. This way the high lvl dudes wont come.

Worked for me ! (Then again Erudin all hated me ANYHOW so .... i chose Paineel over Erudin) hehehe
Virun Waulfebane
Warrior on Cenarius (WOW)
66 Necro on Bertox(EQ1) (retired)
42 Warrior on Bertox(EQ1) (retired)
and im free, free faling
# Nov 23 2002 at 12:08 PM Rating: Decent
26 posts
One of the worst things about this City. This hapend to me. woot im lvl 10 AND im twinked now to go get some skills . sliped into the hole. zoned fell for 20000 and never got back my stuff. not to fun eh? So wach what your step peopel
RE: and im free, free faling
# Nov 25 2002 at 4:45 PM Rating: Default
17 posts
Opps, you fell into the hole. That is not the way to Painheel
How do you get into the city?
# Nov 11 2002 at 12:36 PM Rating: Decent
2 posts
I know I need a key to get the elevator to move. I know I get this key from a guard. What I do not know is.....where the guard is. Where is the guard that I ask for the key?
Ogre Shaman
RE: How do you get into the city?
# Nov 13 2002 at 2:22 PM Rating: Decent
40 posts
Hail the guards and say I need keyz. Then put key on cursor and click the stone - that's what I did.
Hole Key
# Nov 09 2002 at 9:49 PM Rating: Decent
199 posts
Hello all, well after getting my faction up to Kindly to Paineel went to the Superior Suplies looking to buy a key to The Hole. after hailing the downstairs vendors and saying "I need a key" and some other veriations I have yet been able to get a key. I have also gone upstairs to the alchemy vendor to ask the same questions, does anyone know if they have stopped selling the key or is it a bug, or am I just not saying the right thing to the vendor.
Dyfast Rezneeded - 90 Ranger / 95 Woodworker
Slayan Darkworshiper - 91 Shadowknight / 95 Weaponsmith
RE: Hole Key
# Nov 13 2002 at 2:22 PM Rating: Decent
40 posts
I saw it for sale on a vendor - dunno which one. Didn't cost too much to my pally.
RE: Hole Key
# Jul 15 2003 at 5:36 AM Rating: Decent
Wait........ you have a pally in Paineel? How did you get ur faction up?
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~ 47 Gnomish Paladin of Brell Serilis
~ 44 Barbaric Rogue of no faith
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~ 41 Human Necromancer of Freeport
(36 Alchemist)
How to leave the observatory
# Nov 05 2002 at 8:44 AM Rating: Decent
40 posts
I crept thru the city with my paladin glow hidden and my heart in my throat. Oddly all were amiable but one area of what looked to be necros. Fearing falling asleep in such a place during the patch, I tried to leave the city. Somehow I took a wrong turn and found myself in the observatory.

The Tunare worshiping paladin is trapped having tried everything she could think of. Can someone quit laughing long enough to share the method of leaving said observatory?

Thank you ever so much!
RE: How to leave the observatory
# Nov 05 2002 at 5:17 PM Rating: Decent
1 post
Your technical stuck in that observatory because of a bug with the portal. You can either call the GM to assist you out or have druid friend of yours port you out... Those are the only 2 ways out of the observatory.

-11 Erud Necro - Berduso
RE: How to leave the observatory
# Jan 14 2003 at 10:28 PM Rating: Decent
53 posts
accually a wiz port would work fine, and a gate potion. So there are 4 ways out.
I don't like you anymore
Can a chanty kill in Paineel?
# Oct 03 2002 at 5:22 PM Rating: Decent
1 post
Hi, have lots of friends who do the paineel for making some cash. If i raise my faction killing in the warrens what do you think my odds are off taking these guards or skeles for cash ?and whats the best method? probably should take a melee of somesort with me just to be safe. Also once i am able to get in can i buy a hole key? I would think so since i have my factiong ood enough to get in painee? Just curious if this will work for me before I spend hours killin in the warrens :) . thanks !
iksar sk kos
# Sep 27 2002 at 3:08 PM Rating: Decent
2 posts
are iksar sk's kos in town
iksar sk kos
# Sep 27 2002 at 3:07 PM Rating: Decent
2 posts
are iksar sk's kos in town
# Sep 17 2002 at 2:13 AM Rating: Decent
6 posts
is a troll KOS in Paineel (or other evil race) ?
feuilledekoka, 19 druid, looking for herbals products
1K Kejekan tool kit
# Jul 30 2002 at 8:04 PM Rating: Decent
5 posts
The bar keep in the tavern/inn sells a "Kejekan Tool Kit" 30% WR capacity 8 medium container. Anyone know anything about this item other than the stats? Associated with any particular quests anyone knows of etc? It wasn't my 1000 pp so I'm happy with it either way;)
how to get into panieel
# Jun 16 2002 at 10:42 PM Rating: Decent
1 post
I have not played my necro in a while, i remember how to get into paineel. i got a key and don't know if it is the right onew or not. Did they change the key or how it is used or did i just forget. what is the name of the key and were can i get one if i lost it? any help would be appricated
# Jun 12 2002 at 7:52 PM Rating: Decent
1 post
Has anyone ever gotten a response out of Taltlros the cruel? And in the bar with the dancing skeletons the barkeep offers to sell you a Shar Vahl artifact for 1000 pp anyone know what it is? ( before i drop 1k pp out of curiosity)

Norden 54 Reaver of Fennin Ro
using lanterns?
# May 25 2002 at 4:30 PM Rating: Default
1 post
OK total newbie question here: I have a lantern but how do I get it to light up? Not finding this in the manual and the tutorial keeps crashing on me (buggy?). What's the trick? There are a lot of very dark places in Paineel I want to poke around in....
RE: using lanterns?
# Jul 15 2003 at 5:41 AM Rating: Decent
if your lantern is eqquipped and there still is no light, you probably went into water and it went out. Unequiep then re-equip to re-light it.
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~ 47 Gnomish Paladin of Brell Serilis
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RE: using lanterns?
# Jul 30 2002 at 1:59 PM Rating: Decent
8 posts
equip the lantern and it will provide what light it can

no need to light it at all
RE: using lanterns?
# Jun 13 2002 at 1:55 PM Rating: Decent
136 posts
I had that very question myself. It's not that they don't light up it's that they don't light up enough. Try fire beetle eyes, lightstones (reg and greater from WillOWisps) and torches. Also you might want to look into the stein of maggok quest as the items serves as a light source but you do have to travel a bit and have several variant factions to complete.

Also consider traveling with someone who has nightvision or a light source. And get really good at using maps and the /loc function. It helps to have good telemetry just incase you gotta make a fast break and if you have enough skill (you as in the person with the keyborad not the scion) you can manuver pretty well in the dark just mind drops.

If you can afford to, try the different light sources to find what works or just ask around there will be some one willing to help.

PS if you can cast most groups get a light source spell of some sort before lvl 10.
Ulsha 60 Rogue GN (Thrall)
Anteal 57 Hunter NE (Thrall)
Harpysong 20 Priest DW (Thrall)
RE: using lanterns?
# Nov 08 2002 at 3:47 PM Rating: Decent
36 posts
The Paineel key is a wonderful source of light :)
53 Ranger
65 Necromancer
bone chips galore
# Mar 25 2002 at 11:25 AM Rating: Decent
28 posts
For all you necro's and SK's out there- the newbie garden in Paineel is loaded with decaying skellys. It's a small area and they are pretty well confined. With my necro alt I just make a hotkey "/pet attack a decaying skeleton" and let old bonehead run wild as I fill my bags with chips in no time flat. just try and be nice to the lowbie heritics and let them get one or two! :P~
*This Paladin no longer drops in game*
Thouluxe Paells Server
# Mar 07 2002 at 11:53 AM Rating: Decent
15 posts
Would a Barb Shm and Erudite Wiz be KOS here or in Toxx?
avatar of terror
# Mar 03 2002 at 10:45 AM Rating: Decent
20 posts
This guy is in Paineel inside the cleric guild hall, the Tabernacle of Terror. The 'a spirit chanter' is near it too. He keeps shouting "The stench of fear permeates our city walls. I will forge one item for those who are faithful to our Lord Cazic-thule. Hurry. My time is short!" Anyone know anything about what to do?
RE: avatar of terror
# Jul 14 2002 at 5:25 PM Rating: Decent
112 posts
This mob is summoned in the last part of a cleric quest for the Terror Forged Mask.
Mad cash for necs over lvl 44 (60 preferred) in paineel.
# Feb 25 2002 at 8:28 AM Rating: Good
1 post
I will try to make this as easy to understand as possible. Here goes. First, It is necessary to get the no drop key from the guards outside the city elevator. These two fellas hit for over 100, so be careful. Get a map and look to where the warrens is. If you need faction to get a key from guard, kill lots of kobolds in warrens. Then when you get to amaible or so, Hail one of the guards and say "I need." He will give you a key to the elevator into paineel. You then proceed with your key to the elevator and put it on your cursor and press "U" on your keyboard. Kind of a tricky lock sometimes. If you are a caster and have the ability to gate, get yourself bound outside the elevator somewhere real close to toxx forest zone. Or if you want to bind in front of a vendor (because you will get real encumbered from hauling all these guard weapons around to the vendor to sell) then that is up to you, It saves time, (cause walking is like a slug if you weigh 200/70) but If you get one single high lvl add, You may realize you are in a city and have to run a long way through alot of doors and wait up an elevator to get out. Oh and by the way, these high lvlers seem to skip sections of the map and appear on you if you stop.(this not being an issue if you stay in section 1.)
If you chose to venture beyond "section 1," The best class to use is a Necromancer.
Ok, In case you dont know how you are making money yet, killing the guards and selling their goods to the vendors. You need faction to get a key and faction to sell. without faction, this money machine cannot work.
There are 3 sections in paineel that the guards are in. These are seperated by a sort of a blue teleport wall that when walked through, takes you to another part of the city. I define section one as the area from the bottom of the elevator to the first blue teleport wall. There are 8 guards in this section that all carry a bronze ******* sword and a kite sheild. Most of the guards in section one hit for around 30-40. The one exception is Guard Pendlier, who hits for more.(max about 50)Section 1 guards can be killed in their location, are all stationary, and do not run through an area and train out lvl 60 mobs to smash you as in section 2 and 3 (rarely.) (which explains why this method is for necs who can leave pet, run, harmshield and just make it out of the elevator and in to toxx zone=)
Section 2 -- There is one walker in this section called guard Buldoral. Also your merchant is in this section (Henly Nicotropus)He should be killed about once a day to reactivate good prices on all the loot you will be selling to him. (very low lvl vendor) Anyway Buldoral is the only walker and you will get accustomed to the spawn rates and such of these sections. The only scary part about this section is the band of skelletons in the tavern that have potential to train if the guards near the black fenced gate walk even an inch towards the tavers from their spawn location. (I suggest pulling them away from the wall farther away from the tavern to kill them.) NEC is the best class for this method of money. There are 2 undead Flazms hit for about 80 here too, they can be dealt with inside the black fence first to avoid a mess. There are 5 guards in this section.
--Section 3-- Through another blue teleport thingy is section 3. Guards guards and more guards. The guard captain is here too and should be killed first to avoid any deaths of your character. He is the only walking guard in this section. He can be killed by dotting your hp to your pet, and shackling the enemy with shack of spirit and take his hp as necessary. You must be lvl 44 and have purchased summon companion from one of the vendors in East Commonlands tunnel prior to get around in this zone to kill guards in all 3 sections with 100% efficiency. The pets dont go through the blue port things. (sit pets before summoning)
This is the most dangerous section. Only attempt the subsection of section 3 that has a sign about "official business" If you are willing to take seroius risks. I only cleared this section once and had a lvl 54 mag with me. (I was lvl 44)
The rest of section 3 is fine. The exception is that dont pull guards close to the doors into the buildings, they will run into there and train all the lvl 56-60 guys they can out to get you. I usually get my pet real close and have him initiate the attack and then the guard wont run off anywhere (usually). Have gate and harmshield up, and if they run into the big building, gate out of there. 1 in 35 or so gates collapse, so know your way out, DO NOT be more then 10 under your max capacity of weight, and run to the elevator, stop, cast harm shield open the elevator, run to toxx and then hope it doesnt happen again. I just spent alot of time telling you about all the bad things that can happen, so necs are best in this tricky zone, and lvl 44 or more if going past section 1, pets are real good too (mag be good cause their pet take hits while gating in emergency, Nec pets die in 2 seconds) Well, that about sums it up, just kill the guards and sell thier items to vondor. Dangerous and boring. The most I made in one hour at lvl 44 is about 700pp

Well, good luck .
Hole Key
# Feb 24 2002 at 3:48 PM Rating: Good
4 posts
Found the Hole key in Supperior Supplies, top floor, on Ralla Hapera, NPC merchant.

Cost to me was 126pp with only 75 cha

Hope this helps anyone who needs the key

BTW you need to be Amiable to the guards to get the key to Paineel, from the Skeleton guards in the newbie area: Guard Menbuknar

tell them: "I need a key" after hailing them

Edited, Sun Feb 24 16:10:15 2002
Other factions?
# Oct 20 2001 at 2:07 AM Rating: Default
I just got to Amiable with the Heretics and am ready to buy my key in Paineel. Are there other things/factions to beware of in the city? I'm a Barb SHaman, btw.
RE: Other factions?
# Oct 29 2001 at 1:57 PM Rating: Good
196 posts
Let me know what you find out. I'm a Koada'Dal magician and follower of Mithaniel Marr.
Veroline, Undead Warrior
# Oct 18 2001 at 10:17 AM Rating: Default
im a lvl 5 necro erudite and i wanted to know if there was a way i could raise my faction with freeport militia or who ever so i can go through freeport,kelethin guards,and probly queynos gaurds without ruining my necro faction with erudites?
RE: yout
# Mar 18 2002 at 5:54 AM Rating: Decent
183 posts
Not sure about the freeport folks, although I have heard that you can walk around there without doing any faction work... the only danger is going to north FP where the little gnome guy Zigg Finn like to run out and beat on evil types.

For Qeynos, I went to Blackburrow and killed gnolls -- lots of them (did nothing else for lvls 9 and 10). Would also cast debuff spells on those that others were fighting just to get faction (without the xp). Saved every gnoll fang I could get (NO DROP, and most others are collecting as well). Was finally dubious to the guards, at which point I could turn in gnoll fangs to guard in warrior guild for even more faction. Still have to worry about a couple of casters there though...

When you first go over, you will have to swim into the aquaducts, then make your way to North Qeynos, where you can ask for a bind outside of gates (may have to wait awhile).

As far as the elves are concerned... kill orcs. Not sure if you start out KOS to them (will check on that). Travel to Gfay is now much easier for poor lowbies with the Nexus (for those with Luclin). Enjoy, and explore.
# Oct 16 2001 at 4:55 PM Rating: Default
I am 48sham trying to get key to the hole. My faction is'nt the greatest but the guards in the elevator won't kos me unless I sit down or try to cast a spell. Anyway someone let me in the elevator and opened the door to the city. I'm ogre so I could'nt fit in. I was wondering if anyone could help me out. When my faction is better can i shrink myself to get in. Please respond
# Oct 25 2001 at 10:25 AM Rating: Default
Look up a shaman high enough to make you a shrink potion.

Hudan 40 shaman(not high enough)
(T/O)Where is potteywheel?
# Oct 12 2001 at 10:12 PM Rating: Default
Newbie in Paineel
# Oct 12 2001 at 4:01 PM Rating: Default
I am stuck in the city, trying in vain to get into the Newbie hunting ground - any help on what I am missing?
Enchater Erudite can go in to Paineel without KOS before get
# Sep 24 2001 at 9:50 PM Rating: Default
Enchater Erudite can go in to Paineel without KOS before get faction?
RE: Enchater Erudite can go in to Paineel without KOS before
# Oct 26 2001 at 3:11 PM Rating: Decent
2 posts
you need to kill kobolds in the warrens or tox forest, it will raise faction and it will take awhile
Dark Elf SK's in Paineel
# Sep 20 2001 at 6:36 AM Rating: Good
You'll start as Glares Threateningly. Kill Kobolds for almost 3 days (each session being 7 to 8 hours) to get to Apprehensive. While you kill Kobolds loot the molars off them when they drop. You'll need someone with a key to let you in to turn in the Kobold Molars to Royal Guard Lilkus in the palace. I turned in 18 Molars which got me to a high Indifferent faction. If you have 22 to 25 Molars it may take you to Amiable (I killed Kobolds for another half hour an got to Amiable). To USE the Key which can be gotten from the Skellie guards in the newbie area... put the key on your cursor, face the key rock and hit the "U" key on your keyboard. I recommend you carry at least 2 stacks of food and water, 3 would be better, before starting this as you will have NO place to sell to nearby.

Agonese Dark Elf 16 SK
# Sep 15 2001 at 3:29 PM Rating: Decent
8 posts
What're the factions I need to build to be non-KOS in paineel
Nirani Spiritwalker
28'th Barbarian Shaman
Saryn Server
RE: faction
# Sep 19 2001 at 8:14 AM Rating: Decent
The heretics.
Dark Elves in Paineel
# Sep 10 2001 at 6:29 AM Rating: Default
Would a Dark Elf Shadow Knight be kill on sight here?
RE: Dark Elves in Paineel
# Sep 18 2001 at 6:42 AM Rating: Decent
Being a Dark Elf myself, i can tell you that you start out as glares threateningly. I've been killing Kobolds in the Warrens for 2 days now and i'm still glowers dubiously. Remember to go for quanity not quality when killing mobs for this purpose.

Agonese 16 Dark Elf SK
# Sep 10 2001 at 4:59 AM Rating: Default
hello to all
got a problem with the travel to stonebount mountain

how can i get accross paineel !!!!!!!!!!!!!
o'm kos as a shammy of a tribunal and i'd like to travel to this new zone

txs for any answer

yoldana gloire au trubunal!!
RE: travel
# Sep 25 2001 at 4:32 PM Rating: Default
Yoldana, if that's your name,

You don't actually have to go through
Paineel to get to Stonebrunt. You
have to run through the "newbie garden"
and then through the Warrens.

Check out the maps at
for more help. There are 2 guards
at the entrance to the "garden" so you'd
best invis to run between them, though
it is said it can be done visible, if
you're careful.

INVIS works on them, though they're undead,
I know because I am a KOS Erudite (working
on that via Kobold killing).

As a warning, to get to Stonebrunt you
have to run through/by the Throne Room
or King's Room in the Warrens, and there
are several kobolds who see through invis
courtesy of shaman NPC buffs, so unless
they're quite green to you, you may have
to haul patoot to the other side, or
be grouped and prepared to fight.

The ones that "always" seem to see invis
are flanking a doorway to the King Room.

Hauling **** may work better.

At lvl 30, nothing aggros (King might
if you got close enough, don't know)
and I think perhaps at 26-ish friends
have been safe.

It's a start.
RE: travel
# Jan 20 2002 at 3:57 PM Rating: Good
69 posts
I have run between the guards in the newbie grounds with several KOS characters, i have never been aggroed, even though i use no special caution.

All the named MOBs aggro even at L51, but the aggro range is very small and aggro is slow, so if you don't run into one of them, they do not aggro
L70 Dwarven Cleric on Zebuxoruk, retired
L63 Dwarven Priest on Blackburrow (EQ2)
L70 Necromancer on Blackburrow (EQ2)
The Pit
# Sep 08 2001 at 3:58 PM Rating: Default
Does anyone know how to get your body from the pit? I died when I tried to levitate down,not having a key and trying to figure out how to get to the new zone. I did not know that I was gonna zone and lose my levitate, then fall to my death...PLEASE HELP ME!!!

RE: The Pit
# Oct 29 2001 at 1:55 PM Rating: Decent
196 posts
To get your body, you need to get two or three groups of your level-50+ friends and fight your way to the boss of The Hole. I believe there is no other way.
Veroline, Undead Warrior
RE: The Pit
# Nov 26 2001 at 8:34 AM Rating: Good
74 posts
A message about recovering corpses using a newly created halfling rogue is posted in the Strategy section for The Hole.
# Sep 07 2001 at 8:33 AM Rating: Decent
1 post
well, should've known better. Casted invis to undead on myself which made guards "indifferent". when hailing, i get no response. I guess it's back to killing kobs then.
As for the key to the hole, i believe it's sold in paineel somewhere.
Also, i made an Erudite necro on my wife's computer as a mule to sell and change money. The key you receive from beginning is no drop ( should've known :)
# Sep 06 2001 at 4:53 PM Rating: Decent
2 posts
is there a key to hole? where do you apply the key to get your body out? can a newbie get a key for you? if there is no way out of hole, there is no way to deal with this game. body decaying as i ask question.
RE: hole
# Jan 18 2002 at 1:58 PM Rating: Excellent
2 posts
For those looking for the key, it's on an npc outside the bank in Paineel. It looks like a bag and not a key, so you have to right click on it to make sure it's the key you are buying, cost 100pp. No faction, no key!! And the key is no drop.

Thing is if you are traveling to the hole are or should be taking a druid for evac. Just have him cast wolfform on you and it's easy in and out. No need for the key.
Paineel Key
# Sep 06 2001 at 8:39 AM Rating: Default
well, you can also try this:

have someone cast invis to undead, camo or any other trype of invis spell on you. This will make you at least "indifferent" to the guards. You should then be able to hail them and get the key. I don't know if this works, but i'll try it today ( tired of killing kobolds in warrens ). At the moment I'm dubious to the guards. They will not give me the key yet, but after hailing them they at least don't attack. At first they were threateningly when i first arrived. Dunno how many kobs you need to kill, but i went from threat to dubios in about 2 hours of killing.

only thing about the camo/invis thing is, it suxs if you "feel yourself starting to appear" in the middle of a city where you're kos.*grin*

...just my 2cp

Shadeauxsfall Eternal
Shadowknight of 27th Season
Veeshan Server
Troll need to sell
# Sep 06 2001 at 4:15 AM Rating: Default
Me a trollie dat hunting doggies in Stonebrunt. Where closest place to sell. Me see SHIMM can git into Paineel, but he gotta kill lots and lots (more than 3) doggies to do it. Me too lazy. Me got any options?

The hole
# Sep 03 2001 at 6:18 AM Rating: Excellent
2 posts
I fell into the hole when I wasn't paying attention to where I was AFing. After trying to levitate down (died from falling after I zoned) and shouting for someone to help me, I decided to try it myself one more time. I cast Divine Aura just before I jumped. It lasted for a few seconds after I landed, just enough time to find and loot my corpse. I then gated out as soon as it wore off. I hope this helps anyone that has the unfortunate experiance of falling down there.
Thunderboom Stormforge
52 Vicar Of Brell
# Aug 30 2001 at 5:28 PM Rating: Default
I'm a dwarf paladin, on my way to stonebrunt...
As paladins go, undead really don't care for my company. Do I have to invis to undead to travel through the newbie area to get into the warrens and back?

Brystoco Valorius
30th Season Paladin
RE: Paladins
# Sep 07 2001 at 12:54 PM Rating: Decent
46 posts
For entering into the warrens you will pass two skeleton guards fairly closely but they have almost no agro radius you can practically stand on them without them attacking unless of course something else attacks you than they help, this is where they get you azzar habib is in the room directly above the opening that they are standing under, he has a very high agro area and will attack anyone without good heretic faction. The safest way to get through there and to the warrens is to enter with invisability while passing the guards this way you avoid azzar habbib from attacking you. And as long as no one else agro's you, you can pretty much kiss the skeletons almost and they won't agro either. Also another note of warning they may only con as about level 8 but they can double for over 100 so don't think that there easy kills as they will lay waste to you.
Nighthawk eye in the sky
# Aug 16 2001 at 1:01 PM Rating: Default
How do you open the elevator? I'm a newbie and I presume from reading this that you hail the guards but I can't find them anywhere near the lift. help pls
RE: newbie
# Aug 19 2001 at 5:04 AM Rating: Excellent
3 posts
Make sure you get the bone key from one of the scele guards in the newbie garden. Hail them and say i need keys or something close to that phrase. Head to the fair size rock at the dead end right near the hole. Look right at rock, pick up key with cursor, and press U. That should do it. The guards near lift down the elevator also give you keys if you need. Man why they dont just let u call the elevator by clicking the stone while the key is in youre inventory who knows. Too easy i guess....
# Aug 13 2001 at 3:16 PM Rating: Default
I am an Iksar monk, and thinking of going to the warrens. What kind of faction with the city of Paineel can an Iksar expect in that city? Will I be KOS there?

# Aug 08 2001 at 11:59 AM Rating: Default
I'm A lvl 15 SK From SQ.. If I Get A Key... Will I Be KOS In Paineel In Order To Sell Loot... Will I Be Able To Sell Loot?

Santo lvl 15 SK
Worshipper Of Plague The God
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