Who drops the Flaming Dagger, and Longsword of Freedom? and where do they spawn? any info woud be much apperciated, ty :)
Umbral Plains
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Type: OutdoorContinent: Luclin
Instanced: No
Keyed: No
Level Range: 50 - 65
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Like the Maiden's Eye, the Umbral Plains make for one of the most treacherous outdoor areas on Luclin. These wide open plains are home to dark assassin shades, many wandering undead Elysian remains, gorangas, netherbians, and giant zelniaks. In the South is the entrance to Vex Thal, which is surrounded by a hoarde of elemental guardians along with Rumblecrush. -----------------------
Zone Guide by Thorwald:
Umbral Plains Strategy, Tactics, Hunting guide, Rare Spawn info Drops for All in thier mid to high 50's!!!!!
Well that is a mouthful of a Heading! Fact is I don't have ALL that info, but I think I can get us off to a start for those who have no info on UP and since I have been hunting there for a few days can give some insight into hunting there with a TANK..hehe. Aoe groups deserve thier own post ;) .
NOTE : IF BRINGING YOUR FRIENDLY TANK A SLOWER IS REQUIRED! UNLESS YOUR TANK HAS BETTER THAN DOUBLE DIGIT INTELLIGENCE THEN TO KEEP HIM THAT WAY HAVE GREAT (read LOTS of healers or CH or Ghetto CH)HEALING AVAILABLE). Alternatively without slow if your group has a very tough tank, and group is doing very high DPS you can (carefully) do single Gantrus, you will suffer more downtime though and it is much more dangerous.
General Info:
SLOW:
A slower is HIGHLY recommended if you are going to employ melee. Alternatively a Melee with a weapon that procs slow can be used in a pinch. For survivability it is recommended that your slower is over 52nd level, for ease of landing slow and effect of the slow spell they should generally be 54 or higher. Lesser level slowers will work, but the mobs can kill a caster in seconds, repeated re-casting of slow can make for many deaths of the Enchie. Shamen are much more survivable.
DAMAGE:
These mobs all have EXTREME numbers of hitpoints. If you are using melee for the main damage, it is recommeded that you have at least three melee in group and one of those should be a rogue or monk. Alternatively a Single melee and three or more pet classes can make the melee damage quotient work.Lesser configs of melee can work, but even with Haste like Shisshar and 36/40% haste items and good weapon damage, it's recommended that you have at least three melee if you don't want to take FOREVER to kill mobs.
It's all about DPS when employing melee.
MEZZABLE MOBS:
Many of the mobs in Umbral can be mezzed however the DARK cannot and many of the named of course. MEZZ is your friend.
PULLING THE ZONE:
At my level (57) I dont usually have too many problems with bad pulls(there have been exceptions) I usually don't get adds unless I want them. However the DARK and the STATUES in the zone have pretty long aggro ranges. Neither of them are mezzable so you will have to take those out first. Important note though is soft pull if you don't want to be summoned.
SUMMONING MOBS:
ALL MOBS IN THIS ZONE HAVE SUMMONED ME. (NOte exception is the Elysians) Usually not all at once (HEHE). But even that happens. Aggro can chain hard so be careful. When you see a bunch of mobs running around, might be best to simply choose your place to die if you cant avoid them as the puller. My worst example so far is last weekend I ran into a huge train of da's and was killed by them while being summoned (at least 7 or 8 times)all over the zone..that was no fun. Mobs will typically not summon you until they have achieved a certain level of aggro. Exception is the DARK who will summon you on simple hard pulls acertain amount of the time.
HARD PULL vs SOFT PULL:
Generally Hard pulling is good. The mob aggroes and it dosen't train other parties on the way into your camp generally. However the DARK in the zone are potentially perilous to hard pull, they WILL summon you, this could mean you die, pull more than one mob or train your group while you are at low health. This is NOT good generally. Soft pulling the DARK is preferred , but you will ahve to be careful you do not train other groups in the process.
PULLING TO THE MAIDENS EYE ZONE:
There are usually one or two groups pulling right in this rather large zone in area that exactly resembles the ME side in reverse. Nice place to get a feel for your group, but the occaisional train can make it a very dangerous place to be. Pull here with care. Note that there is a short tunnel from here into the mob area of the zone that has a pathing issue. The mobs tend to run back and forth here during a pull. To assist them in pathing , puller should stand in front of the tunnel until the mob attacks him/her. It takes a little practice, but once you learn the distance it will help. If you just pull straight in their buggy pathing sometimes prevents them from coming all the way to the group until subsequent pulls..this can be baaad news ). Of course for you soloers out there, this is an excellent sploit as long as you dont get too many adds ;) .
Mob Info:
Umbral Plains Mobs are generally 55+ ( maybe start a little lower) and range up to level 60. There are armor types for most classes available.Groups should generally have a slower, or at least a slow proc equipped melee. It is recommended that your slower/mezzer be at least 52, mainly because many of the mobs are over 57th level and resistant, and when they get angry, can take a caster out in a few seconds.Common types of mobs are:
Gantrus:
Gantru Moktor: Drops Moktor Armor for Plate classes (SHD, WAR,PAL,BARD,CLER)
Rare: Gantru Raldukan: This guy drops Raldukan armor, the Raldukan Pieces are generally comparable to Thurgadin Plate.
Gantru's Are big Trogs(Also known as Galorians), much tougher than Maidens Eye trogs, they typically double for 150's to 190's or even more and hit very fast. They have many thousands of hitpoints, but have one of the lowest AC's int he zone.Drops are about one in ten on the armor or so on a good day. The Rares are higher level and hit harder tend to be around level 57 or 58 and seems to always drop one of the pieces. Moktors are mezzable and never run btw. Recommend 54+ Mezzer though.
Gantru's have pretty low aggro. You can at my level almost run right up to them before they aggro. Single pulls are easily accomplished.
Gantru Shojen: Shamanistic versions of the above they drop DECENT Planar Shammy armor and Slow, and dot you. Careful thier dot is sometimes EBOLT or PLAGUE and can do a LOT of damage. Mostly known for thier annoying tendancy to slow dot you, and they run, so snare is a must.They are mezzable.
Gantru Shojilen: The rare type Shammy Not sure that there are Shojilen versions of the armor or not.
Elysian Remains:
Disturbed Elysian Remains Drops Elysian Armor for Druids. This stuff is comparable to GOOD planar armor.
Corrupted Elysian Remains: Drops some rare pieces that complement the Elysian very well but many that are useable by other classes. The Death Mask ,Death Watchers Shroud and Glimmering Statuette/ Very nice peices indeed.
Elysians hit FAST and not quite as hard as the Gorangas but quite a bit faster. They can take a warrior with 1100 ac and 3000 hitpoints to zero in under a minute! (Believe me I know I resemble that remark!). I have never faced the Corrupted, but I understand he is immune to stun casts and is level 58 to 59. Elysians are mezzable same rules as Gorangas. I don't believe the named are mezzable but don't quote me mez at your own risk ).
THE DARK:
Dark Assassins. These Look like Xi Vius from Maidens Eye, but like the Gantrus are a LOT tougher than thier ME counterparts. Still they have less hitpoints than the Gantrus or the Elysians and I think easier to kill in a way. Their most noticeable trait right away is thier EXTREME aggro radius. If you SEE one it COULD aggro on you , so pullers should take special care, they are one of the most common adds and CANNOT be mezzed. Their second most famous trait is the tendancy to snare dot your tank while they lay waste to your casters. These guys drop DarkSteel weapons on occaision and Dark Assasin (Ranger, Bard,Rogue) armor. This armor is equivalent to planar.
Dark Masters: The rare version of the above, a LOT tougher and When All slain triggers the DOOMSHADE spawn. They drop Dark Master (Ranger, Bard, Rogue) armor. Nicer stats than the Dark Assasin stuff. Equivalent to Thurg quest armor for Rogues or Rangers.
Fallen Soldiers:
Vah Shir Skellies, these undead former soldiers are rather mundane mobs for this zone really. Mundane to me cause someone forgot to include combat animations. They are about the same level threat as Moktors, with slightly fewer hitpoints, and dont hit quite as hard. They drop nice caster 'Dream Weaver' armor. The Rare Fallen Seargent Drops an Awesome 20 ac Caster Robe the Vah Shir Skin Robe and some nice weapons etc for other classes as well. They aggro more than Moktors, so single pulling is sometimes more challenging. Fallen Searg Cannot be mezzed. Note that there is a Mob trap in the fallen soldier area near the tree spawn. That means you sometimes get a 'free' mob on pulls when pullng along the zone wall to the tree.
Netherbians:
Netherbian Ravagers are the common mob, they drop 'Decaying' armor, a type of caster armor. The rare Netherbian Hive Fiend drops Crown of the Hive and some other pieces. Their difficulty reminds me of the Elysians, they seem a bit tougher than the fallen soldiers and hit fast like the Elysians.
Dathor:
Common are the Shak Dathor.These are pretty tough aliens! Make the aliens in ME look extremely mild in comparison, they hit fast and hard and have about as many hits as the Moktors. These guys are arguably tougher than any of the other standard mobs in the zone. I have not hunted them enough to tell you about their drops.
Rare is the Shak Dathor Warlord. I have never fought this guy, but I assume he is pretty tough as he drops the Shak Dathor Warhammer a 75 damage weapon. I imagine he hits in the 300's but don't quote me.
Zelniak:
Gigantic Zelniaks : There are what I call the EXP cows of the zone. Exp cause they are good exps, Cows cause they look like huge Horses or Bovines ;) Tough mobs lots of hits not very resistant to much though can be nuked easily, dotted etc. These cows have TEETH and hit like the gantrus, but are more dangerous because of higher hitpoints, but have similar AC as the Trogs.
Zelnithak : This Named is not for the light of heart, or the light of Group. Procs aoe disease and some kind of Stun. Proc does 300 points in a VERY large area and is very hard to resist at lower levels. The only time I have seen him I was standing at the front of the tunnel had 165 mag res at 57th level and all reistances over 100 due to wearing my raid gear. I was only able to resist 50% of his AOE's as a 57th Warrior. When he is in the tunnel his aoe will likely extend into the entire zone in area, he almost killed me before I realized I had to zone out, zoned with 250 hps. This proc did not seem to be partially resistable, it would land or not either for 300 damage or no damage. It took two groups with very respectable DPS 15 minutes to take him out. They had two clerics chain casting CHEAL at least on a 61st level MT.
MOB LOCATIONS:
NOTE: All mobs wander the zone, many seem to have a 'patrol' routine (path) where depending on where they spawn they walk a certain route and return to thier spawn points. Others seem to kind of wander until they hit the zone wall and get stuck..there are definitely some pathing problems here, so be careful.
MOKTOR: Straight out form zone, and to the right of the zone you will find multiple spawns of these guys
ELYSIAN REMAINS: 'Safe Valley'(yeah right!) Go past (carefully) the ruins of Vex Thal (far right of zone)and right past that at the zone wall there is a valley , pulling seems to work best from there.
THE DARK: Straight out from zone entrance you will come upon the DARK assasins etc. They are concentrated a small distance from the Moktor Spawns.
FALLEN SOLDIERS: Take a left and follow the zone wall, you will see a big tree in a little depresssion, for real fun go past the big tree and fight along the wall there, lots of these guys. The camp known as 'the Tree' is in the corner and you can pull alot of Netherbians there as well.
DATHOR: Can be found in the same area as the Elysians
ZELNIAK: They seem to roam the zone and concentrate most between the Galorians and the DARK.
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The weapons are droped off the 2 spirits and Doomshade. The spirits are on an 8 hour timer (well there PHer's are anyway) and can be done with one high level group. They spawn in caves on oppiste sides of the zone. Doomshade is a spawned when the 4 dark masters in the center of the zone are killed within a certain time of them 'chanting' something about the comming of doom, kinda hard to miss. Doom takes a fairly major raid to do. Killed him once with 30 people but that was pre-PoP. Could do him with 10 or so now maybe.
Edited, Thu Feb 13 08:03:34 2003
Edited, Thu Feb 13 08:03:34 2003
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the longsword of freedom is droped off of doomshade not sure about the dagger.
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