Balance of Discord
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a simple question just wondering if this will generate more hate then balance of nithil?
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sh*t im not even a shaman and you all missed the BEST benifit to this spell..../sigh ffs how some of you make it to lvl 70 ill never know....cast on raid mob to slow,,,,cancel magic can be cast on mob and not drop it ...Hmmmm
and whoever said shammys got the shaft again...dude are you freaking retarded, there is NO other class in the game that can touch a shammy, PERIOD.
and whoever said shammys got the shaft again...dude are you freaking retarded, there is NO other class in the game that can touch a shammy, PERIOD.
Wow, i can't believe you talk like that about others and yet have absolutely no idea what you're talking about. Shaman slows have disease counters, this isn't unique to this spell. The benefit of this one is the -60 resist check.
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Perhaps if you were a Shaman, you'd realize that none of our slows are removed by cancel magic, so that's nothing new to us. While our primary line of slows has a magic resist check, (Turgur's), it still goes on as Disease Counters, and as such takes a cure disease spell to clear it off.
Might want to check your info before spouting off.
As far as whether shammies got the shaft or not, we got another tool to use for slowing mobs. This one has a better resist check than Nihil, meaning it is a bit more likely to land than Nihil. The main downside is that we're used to having our slows last through even long fights, and this one will not. However, I'd rather have to refresh a slow that lands more often, than spending half the fight trying to get slow to stick. Not to mention the fast cast time (1.5 vs 3.0) is nice for getting mobs slowed down quickly.
Might want to check your info before spouting off.
As far as whether shammies got the shaft or not, we got another tool to use for slowing mobs. This one has a better resist check than Nihil, meaning it is a bit more likely to land than Nihil. The main downside is that we're used to having our slows last through even long fights, and this one will not. However, I'd rather have to refresh a slow that lands more often, than spending half the fight trying to get slow to stick. Not to mention the fast cast time (1.5 vs 3.0) is nice for getting mobs slowed down quickly.
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The main downside is that we're used to having our slows last through even long fights, and this one will not. However, I'd rather have to refresh a slow that lands more often, than spending half the fight trying to get slow to stick
well, bright side is u can cast this spell on raid mob, so then its slowed, and then u can recast turgurs on it. Turgurs will over ride nihil/discord so that way u dont need to have a mob beating on you at full speed, or have to recast more than once.
Nitram said,
I'm just curious if any of these newer slows can be overwritten by a different spell with a longer duration?
In comparison - I'm a druid and my lvl 61 DON snare (Mire Thorns) has a chromatic resist check (-20) and the duration is 3 minutes. However, our lvl 26 Ensnare spell (magic check 0) can overwrite this and place a 14 min snare on the mob when we want to.
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The main downside is that we're used to having our slows last through even long fights, and this one will not.
I'm just curious if any of these newer slows can be overwritten by a different spell with a longer duration?
In comparison - I'm a druid and my lvl 61 DON snare (Mire Thorns) has a chromatic resist check (-20) and the duration is 3 minutes. However, our lvl 26 Ensnare spell (magic check 0) can overwrite this and place a 14 min snare on the mob when we want to.
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When I suo my mage and shammy, if turgurs doesn't stick I cast balance of the nihil, then will malo and hit it with turgur's for the longer duration, as I occasionally fight mobs that take a couple minutes to kill. You get the message, <Mob> yawns, Your Balance of Nihil has worn off a <Mob>.
The reason ensnare overwrites your mire thorn spell is because ensnare lowers movement rate slightly more than the mire thorn spell. Duration has nothing to do with it. Seeing that shamans longest lasting slow turgur's insect is the same % slow as this spell I don't believe its possible to overwrite this spell. Though I am not 100% on this.. if it doesnt overwrite Sony should have just made the damn spell a 74% slow =p
Turgur's WILL overwrite Balance of the Nihil/Discord.
Scholar
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Can anyone confirm turn-in sequence SINCE the patch on 11 Aug 05? I am now hearing that since the patch, Balance of Discord is the THIRD reward.
Thanks.
Thanks.
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Just turned in my first greater rune and got Balance of Discord so its stil the first level 69 spell.
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Can anybody tell me what the 24 disease counter on this spell represents,, and what it can help with ,, or do to mobs for example??
Scholar
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The disease counters represent the amount of counters that have to be removed by a cure spell. Abolish disease for example. Because it uses disease counters, cancel magic line of spells won't work.
I just turned my very first 2 greater runes and got this spell at first one, then Talisman of Fortitude.
I just got this spell from Karsor the Mad in Dranik's Scar for a greater rune,, it was given to me for second greater rune that I turned in at that time, with Pure Spirit reward for first greater rune
Kagguluk Moreluk
Ogre Shaman
The Rathe
Kagguluk Moreluk
Ogre Shaman
The Rathe
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just updated that this will be 69 rune turn in tho not sure where in the line it is, hopefully its first because if you don't have balance this will be good upgrade, -60 mr check owns. check fanfair info, shaman boards got it, where i got my info.
hmm, unless it has been upgraded, this spell blows. Same exact data as balance of nihil, cept they made this cost 40 more mana. A lot of other classes get good spells, but shamans get shafted....thanks soe
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This spell is minus 60 to the magic resist. Balance of Nihil is only minus 40 and at 69 I ( I mean my shammy)wont be worrying about the extra 40 mana cost and will be using this rather than Nihils if it goes live
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Edited, Thu Jun 23 00:39:43 2005
Scholar
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Rather than using discord instead of nihil, you could use them both. You can use nihil whilst discord is refreshing and vice versa, so it is possible to spam them both until the mob is slowed then go for turgurs if fight duration warrants it. Awesome combo for a raids main slower whilst the rest of the shaman team deal with the other debuffs.
Scholar
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Looks like this could be about to finally go live later this month:
Quote from Eqlive
Our next update is tentatively scheduled for 22nd June. We will be ........... making additional changes to classes and introducing some new spells.
Fingers crossed /nod
Quote from Eqlive
Our next update is tentatively scheduled for 22nd June. We will be ........... making additional changes to classes and introducing some new spells.
Fingers crossed /nod
Still not worked out where this comes from either DoN progression or a yet to be added OoW turn in, I'd be interested to hear if anyone has it yet, thanx.
I'll post when I find out btw
Slacethehard
Ancient Shaman
Old Continent
Xev
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I'll post when I find out btw
Slacethehard
Ancient Shaman
Old Continent
Xev
http://www.magelo.com/eq_view_profile.html?num=547938
How can they consider this an upgrade for DoN? It's the same spell you get in GoD, so are some of the others. New name, but same spell?
Scholar
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Yes its an upgrade, this has a minus 60 resist check modifier whereas Balance of Nihil has a minus 40 resist check modifier.
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Im not a shaman, but this is probably the spell you get as part of DoN progression, after doing Calling of Emoush task.
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where do u get this spell i have look in don and other spot nothing on it
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so can this spell be purchased or do you have to have don to get it?
This is not a turn in greater rune spell, I tried and spell guy gave it back to me.
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Where or how is this spell obtained??
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perhaps you dont... since this spell came out after DoN you might be able to purchase it.
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Well its a 69 spell so you need a greater rune for that spell.
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Not true dkdkdk. There are new spells out now with the new DoN expansion and this spell is one of the usable ones by shamen.
Not flaming ... just informing : )
EDIT** opps looks like dkdkdk's guess was right and mine was incorrect. Scroll down for more info : )
Edited, Fri Jul 1 04:09:01 2005
Not flaming ... just informing : )
EDIT** opps looks like dkdkdk's guess was right and mine was incorrect. Scroll down for more info : )
Edited, Fri Jul 1 04:09:01 2005
Not flaming, just informing. You are incorrect. This is acquired by turning in a Greater Rune. I hate know-it-alls. Oh, that's a flame isn't it?
After 16 years, I'm not listing every friggin character.
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Yes as of the June 29ths patch is now a result of a Greater Muramite Rune turn in to Karsor the Mad in Dranic Scar. It seems SoE decided it was a OoW spell and went back and added it to the Greater Muramite Rune line.
I was incorrect in my assumption that it was going to be a DoN spell and I was also assuming it would be from the DoN progression rewards or something like that since the spell didnt actually go live till a few months after DoN was out.
I can tell you this spell is awesome. I went to Rift Seekers and cast it on the Upstairs mobs for about 4 hours and I think I was resisted about 5 times. This was with out any Malo line spell casted prior to the slow.
Definitely an upgrade to the GoD spell Balance of Nihil.
Edited, Fri Jul 1 04:09:29 2005
I was incorrect in my assumption that it was going to be a DoN spell and I was also assuming it would be from the DoN progression rewards or something like that since the spell didnt actually go live till a few months after DoN was out.
I can tell you this spell is awesome. I went to Rift Seekers and cast it on the Upstairs mobs for about 4 hours and I think I was resisted about 5 times. This was with out any Malo line spell casted prior to the slow.
Definitely an upgrade to the GoD spell Balance of Nihil.
Edited, Fri Jul 1 04:09:29 2005
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