Farrel's Companion  

flame me if you want...because i really couldn't care any less...

... but i gotta say all this whining is kinda pathetic.

i read all this about it being such a worthless, gimp pet.. waste of a rune.. etc..

well.. i'm a 68 shammy on the nameless, and i solo quite well with my new doggie.
i get him cheap armors and some nice proc weapon for cheap from the baz...and have at it.. add in spirit quickeing and swift like the wind along with all the other shammy buffs, tack on spirit of leopard, and my little puppy is a tankin' , Proccin' Cujo.

just something to remember -
.. you get out of the game what you put into it.

if learn how to play your class to the best of it's possibility and learn your limitations even better, you'll be good at your job, and you'll have fun doing it.
we are Shaman.. not Beastlords.
expect to be something your not, and you end up.. well... loging onto a message board someplace and whining about it.

I , for one, am very pleased with the 67 pet. sure, it'd be great if i could use him to tank PoTime mobs, but be real. with a geared up Lanerer beside me i solo in PoV, PoN, HoH ( if i'm careful ) and a couple of times he and i have played emergency "oh crap, WTF!" tanks in BoT when the cle's CH fizzled and she didn't notice. without the dog to hold aggo, and me to back him up, the squishy necro and mage and wizzy we were with would have been paste.

so.. when i see people whine about this being a gimp pet, i can't help but think...maybe you're playing the wrong class.

I dont know what the dps of this pet is however as our first pet that is acually the same lvl as us (from what i have been told) we finally get the benefit of all those nice procs on the higher lvl mage pet weapons. I mostly box my shammy and duo with my zerker. The higher proc's will be a welcome addition to the dps. In a grp, meh I never use the pet anyway, maybe once i get the pet affinity aa I will but atm trying to keep him buffed with single cast stuff just isnt worth the effort.

Been about a year, since I've been on here last and haven't played EQ for a year either way. But judging by the many posts of harm directed towards me regardless of whether I can see what they're yelling at me for or not, I said something involving how shamans ain't a pet class or intended too. I can't see the post and I ain't been on here for a year so im clearly clueless, however I do know what post it is now since Re: Hate to Break the News! has about the same stuff in it as Shammys are NERFED NERFED and NERFED MORE!. Kalysta I thank u for hearing me out since u seem to be the only one that really did, the others on the 2nd post are just telling the guy to commit suicide...... Either way Kalysta is right, I'm not sure what was said, like i've said 3 times, but chances are if it involves shaman pets well then I can tell u now that I'M A STRONG BELIEVER IN: PLAY IT, DON'T FIGHT IT OR LEAVE!!! LET ME EXPLAIN THAT: I believe if ur gonna play something don't hollar and yell cause someone else is upped on u no matter what their class. Someone is always upped on u on something don't yell cause ur not SUPERGOD equality and (here we go!) HATE TO BREAK THE NEWS!! but shamans aren't the uppity on pet class. I play a shaman class and love it, I at lvl 70 kited around PoV mobs as long as I had the mana. I was never able to solo while using my pet, I never cared, I didn't even care the pet died quite easily in RS! All I cared about was the fact I was playing a shaman class, and I enjoyed the Shaman's uppity's too. We have 2 from what I've seen (could be more, just say if it is) and they are SLOW and BUFFS! Shaman's have the best slows in the game everybody knows this, but I say buffs because us and BSTs (our own hybrids) are the only classes that receive the Shaman line of buffs. Whereas with clerics they have paladins and the entire other line of druids/rangers in that set of buffs. And as for paladins their line is against BSTs, which they may overtake but it's still a whole other class line. Shaman's are most likely looked for slows over encs and Shamans 9 times out of 10 over bsts for buffs. I'm not looked for for my pet, whether I can solo with my pet tank, or whether it can withstand a raid mob, I COULD CARE LESS!!! I kite around using my pet as a dot basically and I don't care so if ur gonna scream and hollar over the dam shaman pet's gimpiness then take my advice and do either one or the other. EITHER: PLAY IT, DON'T FIGHT IT OR LEAVE!


(Once again I thank you for seeing what I was saying Kalysta, I may not of said exactly what I said this time, but I'll bet u it was along the same lines of don't play a class to hollar about something wrong with it because I believe in it.)




Note: Actually update: I bet I can tell u what it was about now, after rereading the two posts. One says the following: why do sk's even get a pet, which I would easily overlook if it wasn't for the fact the other declared: clrs do get a pet, your views are wrong. I'd be willing to bet the fact I was cursed out of who got charm first, how sks pets aren't even worth it, and clrs do get a pet it's something to do with me saying shaman's get pets last. This is not entirely true and I will take back the fact I subsided clrs on getting pets (I hear u out Fjalarr!). They do get pet's last, but I subsided them because alot of people aren't aware of the fact clrs get a pet until they group with one that has a pet. The reason I said shamans are last and didn't include clrs and put druids first is the following: Shamans may get charm first, but like u said pirobro shamans don't use it. Druids get charm before shamans get an actual pet, and druids DO USE CHARM and alot I know don't like the bear pet. So I counted druids in line first, since charm IS A DRUID animal and shamans mostly sideswipe using it. This was all done with one main point intended to get across: Shaman's are not meant to be an uppity in pet class, they don't have that uppity and I DON'T CARE BECAUSE I ENJOYED MY SHAMAN WITHOUT YELLING AND SCREAMING TO SONY ON UPPING THIS FACT ABOUT SHAMANS! I absolutely 100% agree on the fact shamans ARE NERFED IN PETS, but I still playyed a shaman because I enjoyed it! I didn't start out on the server I'm on now (Tunare) or was on and I started out with a warrior, but as soon as I changed servers and started playing on Tunare I made a shaman for the mere fact of enjoying the class. Which once again I will end on the note that I support this: PLAY IT, DON'T FIGHT IT OR LEAVE!

wow im forced to spend a rune on a pet who has almost no pratical hp improvement (less then 1% hp after buffing diffrence means the improvement was a waste on a paycheck for the jerk who programed this wolf) and he does a whopping 4 more dammage if he lands dammage at all and come on guys even with FA our pop pets were still only hitting mabe 1-2 hits out of 4 each round and normaly in the 30's. No new haste spell to make this pet at least faster so that it would be more dps then and the only spell that mods him is a 5% mod off our's or a druids attack mod, and our group FA level 70 spell that would only be obtained by raiding guilds for the most part untill they make the ingame level cap for pcs 75 inste dof 70.

face it the last good hard hitting high hp pet we had compared to mobs that gave us exp was, when you only had charm animal!!!!!


emightis,

we had charm animal just like the druids, you know why we didnt use it even though unlike druids we had the cha buffs to make it land easyer, becase it just wasnt worth the mana, highly resisted spell line, very low druation, and easy to knock it off every tick if it was a mob that would of been a decent pet. and if you wana go and talk about level 50 druid's bear as a pet you might as well be talking about an unarmed, nude, char going and playing in your group oh and make them the lowest possible level for the zone your in, and also throw in the idea of no procs (does the low level 10 required to proc mage fire fist weapon even proc for this bear?) Shammy's always were ment to be a pet class, when it gets to the point in the game where our dots become a drop in a very big and deep bucket, and our lack of useable nukes (our dammage vs mana makes me wana puke on dd spells in the 34 (old pet level) range).

Were the only pet class that does the slow rot, were ment to slowly and steadly kill things, gropuing just means it becomes a slow poison insted of disease. We slow the mob, makeing it hit less then we take our underpowered dps and slow widdle the thing to nothingness, problem is 90% of all level 60 or higher mobs are ither 1/2 slowable max, or even less % max, they have hp that makes you have to cast your best dot even with dot aa's and a dot focus fo dammage over and over just to see their hp get to 0, our mana to dammage ratio on our higher level spells actually drops, i dont see that with any other class. face it were nerfed to no end, we have no haste spell to even speak of from 66+ our last haste spell is the same one that chanters get in their 40's.

And lets not even bring in the fact that we are a class that can charm and yet we dont get DC animal yes we only get two charm animal spells compared to a druid but come on give us something for a pet. Hell i bet the level 66+ enchanter tiny dagger summoned pet will have more dps, more hp, and higher base ac then this pet and they probly wouldnt even get teh spell if it wasnt required to get other spells.


and yes were going to flame sony in a form about a spell that were focred to get when we probly would buy it after our level 70 spells if they weer all perchaseable in the order we wanted to. WERE going to FLAME when sony gives us the 500th nerf this year for this class alone, and all eq players should flame when they get nerfed becase this whole class balance thing is just BS and you know it ither that or you dont realy play eq any way. go up to a mob that has no armor on and no weapon in its hand and you ware the same gear, and try to take it on when its even coned. now try it when its blue, now light blue, and now green, by 20 levels (wow the last try you might of acutally not got the corpse run)

face it mobs are over powered and each expantion does it even more just for those who are in raiding guilds and have the time to play eq 80 hours a week, some of us can do that but im still payin gover 300 dollars a year to sony in expantions, account fee's and other products i buy directly for this game. all i want is a pet that when a mob enrages i can have more then .00001 seconds to pullmy pet off it befor my pet with raid buffs dies!!!!!!!, a pet that can hit harder then i can hand to hand. a pet that can do more then 2x the min dammage of all other pet classes in the game, and dont say what about sk pets, sk's are tanks and 90% of the time view their pet as more anoying to control then worht sumoning even though it augments their lack of duel weildig (that statment taken from the sony explantions i got in the past when asked why sk's get a pet)



*This message has been approved by Rejection, an adviocate for the Association for the Advancement of Player Charactors, AAPC, helping to bring mobs in "balance" with the people who pay to play. to make a donation of your support to this cause just type /feed , and then in the pop up window type "please befor you nerf my class any more go and nerf the mobs of this game who are way out of balance with the powers of their classes, sence when does a wizard hit for 500 bare handed melee, if i could i wouldnt need my spell book" ty for your time*

I'm not sure where some of these complaints are coming from. I'm still using the True Spirit 61 pet (level 58), and I solo just fine with him.

Conviction + pet toys + summoned armor + full buffing (Focus of Soul, dex/sta/str/agi lines, Spirit of Sense, regen, Feline Avatar and SLTW) and then top it off with Spirit of Leopard and you have a killing machine. One landed slow, and game over. No need to spam DoT, nuke to oom etc..

Using the above, True Spirit can tank 2 at a time from any Tier 1 PoP zone (PoI, PoP) and I have him tanking PoV Crystalline Golem's near West Wall which are much higher (though takes a bit more healing and really isn't mana efficient). One Quiescence is enough to usually finish the job with pet topped off.

I rarely ever melee anymore (unless I'm using up my Rabid Bear AA), and my pet does just fine solo. Sure, he's not going to stand up to NC, WoS and alot of OoW and GoD mobs, but we are not BST or MAG.

I for one will be happy to get a new pet, even if it just so I can actually equip him with higher level pet toys. The highest level pet toy in the game now is only required level 60. Couldn't use them on True Spirit, but sure can on this 63 pet. Crystal Belt + 650hp, Daggers of the Deep or similar + 150hp each.

Our pets will not tank for us in all circumstances. We are not beastlords.

Heyokah Wulweirlynn of the Tribunal
66th Season Prophet
Bertoxxulous

spell seems to have been fixed
pet now hits for max 68
HP and AC seem to have increased a little but not certain

I also can confirm that also.I see no difference between the 63 pet.Why would they not change the 67 pet..he has to be and must be broken..what a waste of a rune

I just got this pet today. It IS lvl 63, hits for same = 60, kicks, bashes, and best of all....our new pet quads. Hp's are still low as usual, but no big deal since we tank vs our pets tanking. Very stoked with the new pet dps is nearly doubled. =)

I have found great use in are lvl 61 pet for when in a group.

All spells casted have a certian amount of hate that puts you on the mobs poopy list.The very first spell you open up with gets i think 20% increase to that hate.

Now since are pets are summoned they are viewed as a spell and each time you sick him on somthing even though its not burning mana you are increasing hate on that mob. Since the pet is so low as fare as the amount of hate the 20% increase dosnt mean squat.

The nice thing about this is you can start casting malos and just before it lands have pet attack. then follow with slow or if you have GoD slow just go with that.

Using this i have found i can debuff and slow the mob with almost never getting agro no madder how good or bad the tank is.

And still be able to DoT and even nuke some without getting hit once.

So maybe the pet dosnt bring us a TON of DPS thats fine were not a true pet class like BST or Mages. It still has some very good points to it and if they give us a higher lvl pet great ill take it =)

Jmay Bigbear
68 shaman of Eternal Retibution
Tunare server

So far, I am very happy with Shaman OoW spells. Good continuances of old lines, new buffs, nice new invis and improved heals.

This spell is not making me happy though. I can tell no difference between this pet and our last pet. He does not hit for more than 60, does not appear to dual wield naturally. Has no procs abilities that our other pet had. He even looks the same. This spell so far, has been a waste of a perfectly good rune.

Unless I am missing something, there is a problem here. I also noticed that he has somewhere in the ballpark of 2kish hps unbuffed. If I am not mistake, that is the same as previous pet. Any other comments?

Pet tanking is very usefull if mob sommons...

Will this pet finally duel wield with having to give it weapons?